Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[Lawpy]

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5 people died last night, correct? I thunk we need to be a lot more careful with claiming affiliations from now

I thought it was 4

WZ, poppy, samacs, pshelty/PSV

 

[Lawpy]

And yes i agree on being careful regarding claiming affiliations.

Because i think samacs got targeted for speaking too much.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Did she claim that it was specifically the same reason SAR vouched for her?

I did and I’m not lying. I don’t know what Zenge is talking about.

The reason SAR vouched for you was not affiliation/faction/alignment based. I believe they specifically clarified this. SAR vouched for you for a role-based reason, which is the same thing Zenge was referring to.

You are vouching for Nate because he's of your same affiliation/faction/alignment (which, given all the flavor, I take to mean you're both Church).
You're also vouching for SAR because they're Church, right? But SAR did not base their vouch on that (at least not publicly).

Edit: did to did not, wow that changes context

 

[chicandtoughness]

Huh, interesting choice. I'm feeling village vibes on Alley

I clarified why alley instead of the other two. You read village to me and Zenge already reads sus, so I'm just feeling out alleycat. No guarantees I will keep the vote on her, just wanted to force a response.

 

[justafluff]

The reason SAR vouched for you was not affiliation/faction/alignment based. I believe they specifically clarified this. SAR vouched for you for a role-based reason, which is the same thing Zenge was referring to.

You are vouching for Nate because he's of your same affiliation/faction/alignment (which, given all the flavor, I take to mean you're both Church).
You're also vouching for SAR because they're Church, right? But SAR did base their vouch on that (at least not publicly).

SAR said she didn’t know if I’m a wolf or not. I’m pretty sure she knows I’m church, which is why she vouched for me. I vouched for Nate for the same reason. I wasn’t 100% sure he wasn’t a wolf but I knew he was church. With Poppy’s flip being Those Who Slither in the Dark I’m even more confident SAR is not a wolf just like Nate wasn’t.

 

[genny]

Last night someone sent me a tropical tea blend that I consumed and got intoxicated by it. In order to not be eliminated from the game, I claim that I resurrected Nate, and that was my only 1-shot ability.

Is this a drunken lie?

 

[Wiisp]

I believe it

 

[justafluff]

Is this a drunken lie?

Drunken truth pls

 

[chicandtoughness]

SAR said she didn’t know if I’m a wolf or not. I’m pretty sure she knows I’m church, which is why she vouched for me. I vouched for Nate for the same reason. I wasn’t 100% sure he wasn’t a wolf but I knew he was church. With Poppy’s flip being Those Who Slither in the Dark I’m even more confident SAR is not a wolf just like Nate wasn’t.

What do you make of SAR and Zenge’s discussion that once SAR dies, we can go ahead and yeet you and/or there’s a time in the future when it would be appropriate to yeet you?

 

[justafluff]

What do you make of SAR and Zenge’s discussion that once SAR dies, we can go ahead and yeet you and/or there’s a time in the future when it would be appropriate to yeet you?

I don’t comprehend it.

 

[justafluff]

Like I said, you all now know my only ability. I don’t have any sort of yeet avoidance. So I don’t understand why there’s a “better time to yeet me” like Zenge says. Only a wolf would time someone’s death like that.

 

[miranda920]

Good afternoon, I have arrived after a long morning at work! What a whirlwind of events since last night.

II’ll say it again. I trust that the church exists. I don’t trust that they’re good.

Agreed.

I'm at a weird spot regarding my reads where my top suspicionseither aren't able to be voted or are being given a grace period.

@VeggieTrex and @miranda920 Could you let me know where you head is at today?

Hmmm, I'm shocked at the double resurrections of Nate and Vis. Unsure if we can trust them.
I'm a little surprised at the PSV flip as I suspected they were wolfy.
I would like to hear from @VeggieTrex to

Thinking but i think i want to

Yeet mirandas

why?

 

[StartingoverVet]

Time for a long post.

First, I have to assume Viz is resurrected wolf. Wouldn’t lynch them now because we can always get ‘em later, but they are strong wolf in my mind.

fwiw, the wolf being revealed and not in a faction, and the wrongful lynch of Nate have me comfortable saying if you know a faction member, they are village for now. I think there are 5 factions as some have said. Seems like there are faction leaders who seem to know more than others and this dissymmetry of information is leading to bad lynches from people. I think there are non affiliated villagers as well to keep it harder to find the wolves.

strong village reads,
Nate: rezzed by a villager,
Fluff: definitely villager to me.
wisp: definitely villager
SOV: 100% villager and others have made it clear

very likely villager
sars: based on play and faction vouching,
zuri.lawpy: just Seems like another person who is in a faction so has some knowledge and is flamed for it. Lawpy play is very villagery,
santy: based mainly on play. Makes some errors but village like to me.

village leans
chica: good call on poppy. Agreed with her day 2 list. Didn’t know about factions but has a win condition. Not sure what if anything that means, but I am good with her.
wondalfy: has ok reads. contributes doesn’t stand out.
mayo: good call on poppy. Seems to be trying from the get go.
clem: faction related support. But somehow doesn’t resonate as strongly with me.


strong not wolf read
April: could be neutral, more likely unaligned villager doesn’t matter plays like a villager

confused
zenge: don’t understand how they fit in the fluff sars etc alignment, but seems clued in on factions. Lean more village.
mother: bad reads and , seems to be overplaying it as a dumb wolf, but Nate for some reason had her strong village, would like to hear more why from him. so for now I move her from lean wolfy to confused..

not sure but lean wolfy
miranda: seems to overplay lack of knowledge. doesnt read thread fully IMO, maybe busy wolfing. Defended poppy in her reads.
veggie: defended by poppy. Makes finding factions seem, wolfy when unrelated. Just don’t get a great village feel. Doesn’t help AM thinks she is villager.

stronger wolf feels
alley: she mostly plays same as wolf or village so hard to read. I didn’t like her showing up late 1/2 hour until close to join the bandwagon. That is a wolf thing: Just showing up for Lynch. first day everything was Mostly useless posts.

wolfy
AM: tunneling too much, been way off on zuri and fluff, Nate and me.
viz: looks to have been rezzed by a wolf.

Ignore until further notice
genny: honestly didn’t feel as much alpha wolf second time around. If she were alpha I would think she would have more fun with it.

my vote is going to be AM, alley, vegg or Miranda unless something major changes, or we get more info.

also, poppy a couple of times gave the “don’t vote for noobs” comment, so that makes me want to yeet a noob.

I need a break. I have been at this all day.

Edit: the categories from top to bottom go more village to more wild (except genny - she is her own world). Within categories order is irrelevant. Randomly from my notes. And fixed some grammatical errors

 

[Wiisp]

It's very likely that multiple factions have a revive so I wouldn't auto assume just because we saw one dead wolf revive, that Viz is a wolf

 

[Animal Midwife]

Time for a long post.

First, I have to assume Viz is resurrected wolf. Wouldn’t lynch them now because we can always get ‘em later, but they are strong wolf in my mind.

fwiw, the wolf being revealed and not in a faction, and the wrongful lynch of Nate have me comfortable saying if you know a faction member, they are village for now. I think there are 5 factions as some have said. Seems like there are faction leaders who seem to know more than others and this dissymmetry of information is leading to bad lynches from people. I think there are non affiliated villagers as well to keep it harder to find the wolves.

strong village reads,
Nate: rezzed by a villager,
Fluff: definitely villager to me.
wisp: definitely villager
SOV: 100% villager and others have made it clear

very likely villager
sars: based on play and faction vouching,
zuri.lawpy: just Seems like another person who is in a faction so has some knowledge and is flamed for it. Lawpy play is very villagery,
santy: based mainly on play. Makes some errors but village like to me.

village leans
chica: good call on poppy. Agreed with her day 2 list. Didn’t know about factions but has a win condition. Not sure what if anything that means, but I am good with her.
wondalfy: has ok reads. contributes doesn’t stand out.
mayo: good call on poppy. Seems to be trying from the get go.
clem: faction related support. But somehow doesn’t resonate as strongly with me.


strong not wolf read
April: could be neutral, more likely unaligned villager doesn’t matter plays like a villager

confused
zenge: don’t understand how they fit in the fluff sars etc alignment, but seems clued in on factions. Lean more village.
mother: bad reads and , seems to be overplaying it as a dumb wolf, but Nate for some reason had her strong village, would like to hear more why from him. so for now I move her from lean wolfy to confused..

not sure but lean wolfy
miranda: seems to overplay lack of knowledge. doesnt read thread fully IMO, maybe busy wolfing. Defended poppy in her reads.
veggie: defended by poppy. Makes finding factions seem, wolfy when unrelated. Just don’t get a great village feel. Doesn’t help AM thinks she is villager.

stronger wolf feels
alley: she mostly plays same as wolf or village so hard to read. I didn’t like her showing up late 1/2 hour until close to join the bandwagon. That is a wolf thing: Just showing up for Lynch. first day everything was Mostly useless posts.

wolfy
AM: tunneling too much, been way off on zuri and fluff, Nate and me.
viz: looks to have been rezzed by a wolf.

Ignore until further notice
genny: honestly didn’t feel as much alpha wolf second time around. If she were alpha I would think she would have more fun with it.

my vote is going to be AM, alley, vegg or Miranda unless something major changes, or we get more info.

also, poppy a couple of times gave the “don’t vote for noobs” comment, so that makes me want to yeet a noob.

I need a break. I have been at this all day.

Edit: the categories from top to bottom go more village to more wild (except genny - she is her own world). Within categories order is irrelevant. Randomly from my notes. And fixed some grammatical errors

I'm surprise by your assumption that Nate must be a villager and Vis must be a wolf when villagers have rezzed wolves multiple times and vice versa. And the disregarding of genny is pretty eh. I still don't understand how fluff is confirmed village but no one seems willing to explain that to me.

Could you remind me if you played with alley before btw? I don't recall that.

 

[Wiisp]

I feel like AM is extremely uninformed of the factions, and I'm not sure what that means yet

But there is 0 chance I delve deeper into why Fluff is very likely town from my perspective

 

[StartingoverVet]

It's very likely that multiple factions have a revive so I wouldn't auto assume just because we saw one dead wolf revive, that Viz is a wolf

Fair enough, Not in a rush to act on that but wouldn’t trust them with my dogs (IRL joke).

 

[Animal Midwife]

@VeggieTrex Are you slienced? Like this post if so.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I'm surprise by your assumption that Nate must be a villager and Vis must be a wolf when villagers have rezzed wolves multiple times and vice versa. And the disregarding of genny is pretty eh. I still don't understand how fluff is confirmed village but no one seems willing to explain that to me.

Could you remind me if you played with alley before btw? I don't recall that.

Alley a few times. Don’t recall much tbh.

fluff is 100% village. Some things can’t be explained.

as for Nate, a village rez a wolf? Multiple times? News to me. If so I guess he drops down a bit.

 

[Wiisp]

How does a villager rez a wolf, at some point I want to know that context

 

[Animal Midwife]

Alley a few times. Don’t recall much tbh.

Okay. I seem to remember this being your first game togther.

fluff is 100% village. Some things can’t be explained.

The lack of explaining is reminding me why village struggles in basics game.

as for Nate, a village rez a wolf? Multiple times? News to me. If so I guess he drops down a bit.

Yes. I can think of three from games I played off the top of my head. Like let's see what people post and who they push before labeling them.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How does a villager rez a wolf, at some point I want to know that context

A villager uses their rez. The rezzed villager converts to wolf upon revival. The end.

 

[Wiisp]

A villager uses their rez. The rezzed villager converts to wolf upon revival. The end.

That's sounds very gross

 

[Animal Midwife]

That's sounds very gross

All conversion is, but that's what I'm used to. So I've come to at least be grateful that it's the easiest to interpret VCA-wise over vs the living types.

 

[VeggieTrex]

Not post restricted just busy with work, school, and re reading the thread. I'm trying to go back through and look at Poppy in context, but there is a lot to read.

 

[alleycat03]

how common is it for alleycat to solely react to posts for like 4 pages, and then finally officially enter the thread around the 240 post marker, and just fluff? its just weird to me that they were clearly reading, and entered with nothing

unless its common practice for them to mindlessly react to posts

I react to everything

You'll get used to it

And I'm offended that you called all of my contributions fluff. Some of them are (even designated with the stars) but I was asking actual game-related questions and providing my thoughts (though admittedly haven't developed strong reads) when I was posting on Saturday.

 

[Aprilthearab]

OK how did u end up Poppy in general, I honestly didn't mean to imply EoD when I wrote that post

Poppy is square inside my POE and so far I don't have any village points for her. Something about her posts yesterday didn't sit right with me. I am not caught up and haven't read almost any posts that don't quote or tag me since this morning so none of my reads have been revised since then

Poppy's posts just felt a bit disorganized and wishy washy yesterday and I wasn't vibing with her in the way that I've been vibing with my many village reads. Hoping I can read more of what she's said today to get a better feel

Wish I had more to add to what I've already said but I didn't catch up at all last night, couldn't even keep up with the new posts. The read was mostly vibes and partly POE since I have a lot more village reads than scum reads

 

[StartingoverVet]

Okay. I seem to remember this being your first game togther.

wasn’t there another allie then who played a lot? Maybe I am confusing them. if she is less than a year or so player then my error.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Someone took Dubz away from me and I am Big Madd about it

Anyway, running to puppy class and then I guess I'll try to compile some thoughts but I need to look more in depth at the tallies first now that there's a flipped wolf.

 

[alleycat03]

she mostly plays same as wolf or village so hard to read

When have we played a game together before this one?

 

[SportPonies]

wasn’t there another allie then who played a lot? Maybe I am confusing them. if she is less than a year or so player then my error.

Allieh.

Alley is from 3 noob games ago

 

[alleycat03]

Okay. I seem to remember this being your first game togther.

The lack of explaining is reminding me why village struggles in basics game.

Yes. I can think of three from games I played off the top of my head. Like let's see what people post and who they push before labeling them.

As far as I know I've never played with him before. I could be wrong but I don't recall playing any games with SOV. I've only been playing since the December 2020 noob game (cartoons).

 

[Viscernable]

Hmm

So poppy rezzed vissy?

It’s possible, but if so, she didn’t know what aff I would come back as. I do believe the fluff/Nate stuff. They could still be a harmful faction but I don’t believe they’re wolves. Or I guess it’s technically possible aff after rez is randomized and Nate was randomized to wolf, but I don’t have reason to believe that.

Unyeet nate

 

[StartingoverVet]

Allieh.

Alley is from 3 noob games ago

Oops. This was is definitely a mea culpa. Allieh. They both have the same style though. Lol.
my humble apologies to all.
I know nothing about this new alley. But still, ghosting all day and joining a yett of a villager z30 minutes before close is bad news.

 

[alleycat03]

You’re right, I just haven’t had the chance to really sit down and understand the arguments. I will do this at the airport!

I will say yesterday was arguably the most stressful/important day of my life, so I really haven’t had a chance to truly analyze the responses. I am doing my best!
Maybe “random” wasn’t the best choice of words. I recognize there are cases and arguments being made, but haven’t read into them enough to form a real opinion.

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[alleycat03]

1000 words may have been an inflated figure....

I was responding to this answer from Fluff

Basically I was saying I thought Alley's thought process seemed genuine? Like she found Fluff wolfy. but she also recognized that she read her as wolfy in the noob game and was wrong there...

Which sent me down this rabbit hole of "was she wrong there????" Because Fluff was scum siding as a 3p, so reading her as wolfy is totally valid in the noob game.

But then why be hesitant here? Alley read her as wolfy, she was wolf siding, so essentially she was right.

But then if Alley was right, why would there be any hesitation here? Like is Fluff right, and she's being hedgy?

But then if Alley was right there on her Fluff read, maybe she's right here and doubting herself?

It was a lot of ping ponging on that. And then the forum ate it and I got grumpy and went to bed.

Fluff is ALWAYS wolfy to me. Pretty sure I thought she was a wolf during her first noob game and I'm fairly confident I misyeeted her before because I thought she was a wolf at least once, probably twice (anniversary? some other game? idk). Not sure if she was a wolf in any games I've played with her.

So I can't read her correctly. Just like I refused to read Mayo for a year because I was always wrong.

I guess if I think she's super wolfy, then that actually indicates that she is village?

 

[alleycat03]

agreed. I think the wolves are their own thing. They're gonna be Those Who Slither in the Dark

quoting this because I don't remember those that slither in the dark being mentioned before Poppy's flip. Slip?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Can the people who played in the noob game comment on how Miranda sounds here compared to the noob game? Same, different? And what was her alignment in the previous game?
@Wondalfy @motheatenlysis @VeggieTrex @justafluff @chicandtoughness

 

[Aprilthearab]

quoting this because I don't remember those that slither in the dark being mentioned before Poppy's flip. Slip?

You might be onto something. Hold pls

 

[Aprilthearab]

quoting this because I don't remember those that slither in the dark being mentioned before Poppy's flip. Slip?

I searched "slither" in SDN's search engine and this is the very first mention:

I think the wolves are part of "Those who slither in the Dark" based on the intro write up.

I recall someone being like "I don't think that wasn't the exact wording in the write up though?"

Hmmm
Thinking

 

[Aprilthearab]

@motheatenlysis where did you get the specific phrase "those who slither in the dark" from? Because it didn't come from thread, it doesn't look like

 

[Aprilthearab]

the darkness on the outskirts​

This is the flavor that was used in the intro post. No slithering

 

[Aprilthearab]

Also totally beside the point, but nowhere does it say the darkness slithers.

Zuri was the one who pointed out the slithering thing

 

[kaydubs]

Day 3 Tally: Cut A Bloody Path

Nate ()
VeggieTrex (1) - Santy
alleycat (1)- chicandtough
miranda (1) - zuri>Lawpy
mothy (1) - genny

4/20

Winning/Losing: ?
Missing: almost all

Vote ends 10pm EST/9pm CST/etc TOMORROW, 1/18/23 (~28 hours)

 

[miranda920]

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[Wondalfy]

I searched "slither" in SDN's search engine and this is the very first mention:

I recall someone being like "I don't think that wasn't the exact wording in the write up though?"

Hmmm
Thinking

Ah nice I was going to analyze the whole who mentioned slither/who didn't/who agreed later. I'll still give my thoughts/analysis later

 

[Aprilthearab]

Hmmmmm

There could be alternative TMI explanations that aren't wolfy so I'm gonna wait and see how mothy responds. But I'm going to be amused if her boob clear was fake and also amused that I put my vote there before the boob clear

 

[Wondalfy]

Can the people who played in the noob game comment on how Miranda sounds here compared to the noob game? Same, different? And what was her alignment in the previous game?
@Wondalfy @motheatenlysis @VeggieTrex @justafluff @chicandtoughness

Well Miranda died night 2 so there's not much to go on. It seems relatively similar

 

[Wondalfy]

Well Miranda died night 2 so there's not much to go on. It seems relatively similar

Oh she was village btw

 

[Aprilthearab]

Well Miranda died night 2 so there's not much to go on. It seems relatively similar

Wait. What? I didn't think Miranda died