FTF's Worst Idea Yet (Game Over)

[Animal Midwife]

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But what about paws, who waited until the very last minute to self prez onto her?

Paws actually started the vote on her per my in progress tracker.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

oh hold on, missed a death

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

alright, flip post edited with the one i missed
now i sleep

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Wow. Seems like it was a very useful role and better than most. That was a good piece to fall. And since there was a communication component, it will be interesting to see the comments early on regarding her. And I do recall someone trying to alter the vote on her or redirect it. Not a great look to have jumped on MsP for Vis. And he had some good posts but some curious ones (helpful maybe? I can't remember). The thing that pinged me the most about Alissa was the helpfulness. It is amazing in the two games I have played, wolves have been helpful both times. Makes me want to never be helpful...

 

[Aprilthearab]

Paws actually started the vote on her per my in progress tracker.

Then what was this all about?

Looks like I might have to self prez on alissa

Welp as self prez
Unvote vis
Vote alissa

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

sorry about that folks, also keep in mind with the updated death the hammer count sits at 5 instead of 6 now

 

[Animal Midwife]

Then what was this all about?

She came to the incorrect conclusion, very late in the cycle, that alissa would only be that melancholy as a misyeet. I distinctly remember that post.

 

[Zenge142]

Then what was this all about?

Paws was the first vote on Alissa. Moved later on, and then self prezed back onto Alissa. That doesn’t seem like something a wolf would do.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Paws was the first vote on Alissa. Moved later on, and then self prezed back onto Alissa. That doesn’t seem like something a wolf would do.

Do you have any updated reads?

 

[Aprilthearab]

She came to the incorrect conclusion, very late in the cycle, that alissa would only be that melancholy as a misyeet. I distinctly remember that post.

Okay. I'm not ready to clear her based off of that especially when she wasn't on that vote as a wolf read in that moment. Could be in a different faction too

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay. I'm not ready to clear her based off of that especially when she wasn't on that vote as a wolf read in that moment. Could be in a different faction too

A different faction would not be a wolf. So I stand by my original statement. She is not w/w with alissa.

 

[Aprilthearab]

A different faction would not be a wolf. So I stand by my original statement. She is not w/w with alissa.

Okay... But my point is that she could still be scum regardless of whatever title you give it

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay... But my point is that she could still be scum regardless of whatever title you give it

I want to see what she does today first tbh.

 

[JustPaws]

She came to the incorrect conclusion, very late in the cycle, that alissa would only be that melancholy as a misyeet. I distinctly remember that post.

Yeah this is correct
I initially didnt like her posts, told you all why when asked and then let the guilt stuff work on me. It sucks to be yeeted D1 over and over so since no one said it was bull**** I assumed that was accurate and figured it could wait a day and I could reevaluate tomorrow.

 

[JustPaws]

Okay... But my point is that she could still be scum regardless of whatever title you give it

Awesome haha Glad to see your hardon for me is still rock hard

 

[JustPaws]

I'm feeling conflicted. I'm not really a fan of her reads, but genny also makes me sweat.

What are your thoughts on sunny this morning after all these flips?

 

[Zenge142]

Do you have any updated reads?

I’m inclined to say April isn’t wolfing. I don’t think she’d throw this kind of shade on a fellow wolf:

Hey Genny, remember how you told me in wolf chat a few games ago that wolves have to pay extra attention to the vote tally and should always keep their own on hand?

This quote from Vis stands out to me

Eh Bob’s vote has disintegrated now and there’s a slim chance of MsP being voted over alissa or Paws who I don’t feel are great choices

Unvote: Bob
Vote: MsP

Especially seeing Bob, MsP and Alissa all flip. Sounds like Vis wanted her vote to have an impact instead of it being “wasted” on Bob, but it was the only vote on MsP, so it was effectively the same outcome. So I think Vis is one of my stronger wolf reads at the moment. Felt like maybe Vis was trying to build a counter wagon to save Alissa.

Not sure yet how to interpret the Dubz/Pippy interactions yet. I noticed Dubz’s vote was absent from the finally tally. I’m wondering if there’s a role related reason for that for if she just didn’t vote. I want to say Pippy sounds like frustrated villager in those interactions, but they also sound similar to how she sounded in Ggoats.

Do you have any thoughts on the Pippy/Dubz interactions?

Do you still have the same read on Sunny after Genny flipped?

 

[JustPaws]

I’m inclined to say April isn’t wolfing. I don’t think she’d throw this kind of shade on a fellow wolf:


This quote from Vis stands out to me

Especially seeing Bob, MsP and Alissa all flip. Sounds like Vis wanted her vote to have an impact instead of it being “wasted” on Bob, but it was the only vote on MsP, so it was effectively the same outcome. So I think Vis is one of my stronger wolf reads at the moment. Felt like maybe Vis was trying to build a counter wagon to save Alissa.

Not sure yet how to interpret the Dubz/Pippy interactions yet. I noticed Dubz’s vote was absent from the finally tally. I’m wondering if there’s a role related reason for that for if she just didn’t vote. I want to say Pippy sounds like frustrated villager in those interactions, but they also sound similar to how she sounded in Ggoats.

Do you have any thoughts on the Pippy/Dubz interactions?

Do you still have the same read on Sunny after Genny flipped?

Is vis a wolf read or a scum read?

 

[PippyPony]

genny targeted me last night

 

[JustPaws]

So can some one help me understand how many scum we might have left? What is FTFs ratio? How do SKs count into that?

 

[PippyPony]

Vote Dubz

 

[Zenge142]

Is vis a wolf read or a scum read?

Wolf. It seemed like the move to MsP after the Bob wagon fell apart was an attempt to create a counter wagon to save Alissa.

 

[PippyPony]

Paws actually started the vote on her per my in progress tracker.

Did you see the vote progression? It was super weird and that's what I was getting after her for most of yesterday. I am ok leaving her alone today but she is NOT cleared for starting that vote imo.

 

[PippyPony]

Wolf. It seemed like the move to MsP after the Bob wagon fell apart was an attempt to create a counter wagon to save Alissa.

I agree with this 100%

 

[JustPaws]

Wolf. It seemed like the move to MsP after the Bob wagon fell apart was an attempt to create a counter wagon to save Alissa.

Kind of late in the day to make a brand new counter wagon?

 

[PippyPony]

Kind of late in the day to make a brand new counter wagon?

Not really -- you yourself posted about an hour before close that you were looking for a new vote

 

[JustPaws]

I agree with this 100%

Kind of late in the day to make a brand new counter wagon?

Same question to you?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler: Day 1

sunshine (1) - AM
Cray (1) - chaos
MsP (1) - alissa
alissa (1) - Paws
chaos (1) - Bob
alissa (2) - Paws, Cray
Paws (1) - Pippy
alissa (3) - Paws, Cray, MsP
Pippy (1) - dubz
Cray (1) - Zenge
Paws (2) - Pippy, April
Paws (1) - April
dubz (1) - Pippy
Paws (2) - April, sunshine
alissa (2) - Cray, MsP
Vis (1) - Paws
Bob (1) - chaos
Bob (2) - chaos, Vis
MsP () -
sunshine (2) - AM, genny
Paws (3) - April, sunshine, alissa
Bob (1) - Vis
alissa (3) - Cray, MsP, chaos
Bob () -
MsP (1) - Vis
alissa (4) - Cray, MsP, chaos, Paws

14/14

 

[JustPaws]

Not really -- you yourself posted about an hour before close that you were looking for a new vote

4 minutes before close?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yeet Vis

due to weird vote placement

 

[PippyPony]

Same question to you?

I don't know what your question is

 

[Animal Midwife]

What are your thoughts on sunny this morning after all these flips?

She's still in my scum leans.

 

[JustPaws]

I don't know what your question is

You already answered but I still want to know why you think a lone vote 4 minutes before close would make her wolf defending wolf. I think shes scummy but I'm not buying wolf.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m inclined to say April isn’t wolfing. I don’t think she’d throw this kind of shade on a fellow wolf:


This quote from Vis stands out to me

Especially seeing Bob, MsP and Alissa all flip. Sounds like Vis wanted her vote to have an impact instead of it being “wasted” on Bob, but it was the only vote on MsP, so it was effectively the same outcome. So I think Vis is one of my stronger wolf reads at the moment. Felt like maybe Vis was trying to build a counter wagon to save Alissa.

Not sure yet how to interpret the Dubz/Pippy interactions yet. I noticed Dubz’s vote was absent from the finally tally. I’m wondering if there’s a role related reason for that for if she just didn’t vote. I want to say Pippy sounds like frustrated villager in those interactions, but they also sound similar to how she sounded in Ggoats.

Do you have any thoughts on the Pippy/Dubz interactions?

Do you still have the same read on Sunny after Genny flipped?

Pippy/dubz is hard to interpret. If it's v/s, I'm more inclined to look toward Pippy because most of her progressions haven't made sense to me.

sunshine hasn't changed.

 

[Animal Midwife]

So can some one help me understand how many scum we might have left? What is FTFs ratio? How do SKs count into that?

No more than 5.

 

[Zenge142]

For reasons previously stated:

Yeet Vis

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did you see the vote progression? It was super weird and that's what I was getting after her for most of yesterday. I am ok leaving her alone today but she is NOT cleared for starting that vote imo.

She's not w/w, Pippy. I looked at the progression.

 

[JustPaws]

Not really -- you yourself posted about an hour before close that you were looking for a new vote

I gave a full hour to see if others also felt weird about vis instead of me. Why is that abnormal lol

 

[PippyPony]

She's not w/w, Pippy. I looked at the progression.

You are literally the WORST at reading Paws; even more so if one of you is a chaos goo

 

[PippyPony]

Pippy/dubz is hard to interpret. If it's v/s, I'm more inclined to look toward Pippy because most of her progressions haven't made sense to me.

sunshine hasn't changed.

Did you read her posts????

Go back and read those ones where she got grumpy at me for "twisting" a wolf's words.

 

[JustPaws]

You are literally the WORST at reading Paws; even more so if one of you is a chaos goo

Do you feel like she is defending me erroneously? She is still saying I could be scummy in another way lol

 

[JustPaws]

You already answered but I still want to know why you think a lone vote 4 minutes before close would make her wolf defending wolf. I think shes scummy but I'm not buying wolf.

I gave a full hour to see if others also felt weird about vis instead of me. Why is that abnormal lol

These aren't rhetorical questions @PippyPony

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did you read her posts????

Go back and read those ones where she got grumpy at me for "twisting" a wolf's words.

They look normal for Paws. She makes posts like that all the time regardless of affiliation.

 

[JustPaws]

They look normal for Paws. She makes posts like that all the time regardless of affiliation.

I think this on is about WZ

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think this on is about WZ

Oh, yeah I'm not 100% sure about dubz. Still thinking on her.

 

[JustPaws]

I know you are busy with rotation pips but when you specifically avoid answering my questions today and yesterday... +1 scum

 

[JustPaws]

@Animal Midwife are there any roles on the list of possible where WZ wouldn't have voted yesterday for a reason/reward?

 

[Zenge142]

Oh, yeah I'm not 100% sure about dubz. Still thinking on her

Is there a role related reason her vote for Pippy wouldn’t have shown up on the final tally?

 

[Zenge142]

@Animal Midwife are there any roles on the list of possible where WZ wouldn't have voted yesterday for a reason/reward?

🥷

She did vote for Pippy though. It just didn’t show up on the final tally.

 

[JustPaws]

Yeet pip

Haven't read all posts because I lost my spot, but feel like she's being twisty in the ones I have read

Huh I didnt even remember that. So pip's vote was almost OMGUS