Madagascar WWildlife (A Basics Game!) - GAME THREAD

[samac]

But like 3 bussing wolves?

I take that back. I thought more people moved than Vis.

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[Lawpy]

Lawpy. Why would my master plan to protect packmate strog be to move to a wagon that’s THIRD when there’s not enough time for others to move as well? Is that really a simpler explanation?

It's the rapid dissipation of one wagon and rapid formation of other thatxs the issue here

 

[PippyPony]

I may have to re-read this tomorrow because I'm falling asleep sitting up, but I think I'd like some pressure on Strog and Lawpy again. Strog because I agree that wagon died without a lot of effort, Lawpy because I could see him being overly anxious about a wagon forming on him if he and Strog are w/w.

Meats coming in 30 minutes before close and then flopping around was also kind of meh. Wolf points to her if Strog flips wolf.

And wolf points to AM if Lawp is wolf

 

[holdthemayo]

But like 3 bussing wolves?

Wouldn't need 3. It was 4-5 at the time. One vote switching from alley to Strog would have done it.

 

[Viscernable]

Eh, you often voted rather late while wolfing too

That’s true. I haven’t done maths on it but I think I do it much more often when village.

 

[PippyPony]

The WIFOM you’ve created here for me is out of this world.

 

[Lawpy]

Vis beat me to it.

We're talking a rapidly changing vote margin between the main wagin and secondary wagons. There can be many reasons and factors in play here that may not be rational

 

[Animal Midwife]

I may have to re-read this tomorrow because I'm falling asleep sitting up, but I think I'd like some pressure on Strog and Lawpy again. Strog because I agree that wagon died without a lot of effort, Lawpy because I could see him being overly anxious about a wagon forming on him if he and Strog are w/w.

Meats coming in 30 minutes before close and then flopping around was also kind of meh. Wolf points to her if Strog flips wolf.

And wolf points to AM if Lawp is wolf

I can see arguments made for me/Lawpy being w/w, but how would I be in any pack with Strog?

 

[Viscernable]

I'm impressed you think I can remember this level of detail

It was in one of the 2 back to back games where she was a wolf. She said something self-deprecating in defense of another wolf, and I brushed it off at the time, but it was a real thing

Don’t expect it considering I can’t remember it at all but I figured it can’t hurt to see lol. Thanks, I’ll keep it in mind as not outside her wolf range.

 

[Lawpy]

But like 3 bussing wolves?

3?

 

[PippyPony]

I can see arguments made for me/Lawpy being w/w, but how would I be in any pack with Strog?

I didn't say you were

 

[WildZoo]

I don't know how you remember these things, but that is why you were nominated!

I remember it because I was in wolf chat for part of last game, twitching about her voting late lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't say you were

Thrn I'm confused what the paragraph's about. Could you rephrase it?

 

[Lawpy]

I may have to re-read this tomorrow because I'm falling asleep sitting up, but I think I'd like some pressure on Strog and Lawpy again. Strog because I agree that wagon died without a lot of effort, Lawpy because I could see him being overly anxious about a wagon forming on him if he and Strog are w/w.

Meats coming in 30 minutes before close and then flopping around was also kind of meh. Wolf points to her if Strog flips wolf.

And wolf points to AM if Lawp is wolf

I hate last minute wagons on me regardless of affiliation especially if they're based on incorrect interpretations of tone read

Time and again i have shown tone reads on me have been proven wrong. This game is no different.

 

[Viscernable]

Which itself is wrong because you saw me fighting in a heated exchange as village in bioshock which was a lot spicier than a question i was asking WZ, so the tome change argument doesn't hold.

Don’t remember it. I’ll go back and try to find that, thanks

 

[samac]

3?

I take that back. I thought more people moved than Vis.

 

[PippyPony]

Thrn I'm confused what the paragraph's about. Could you rephrase it?

It makes sense to me, that's all I've got right now lol

 

[Lawpy]

Don’t remember it. I’ll go back and try to find that, thanks

It's around the end of D1

 

[mkg323]

It's the rapid dissipation of one wagon and rapid formation of other thatxs the issue here

I'm sorry but you getting so salty about a wagon forming on you close to yeet close is hilarious. you literally tried to start a wagon on me 45 minutes before the end of the cycle for the weakest reasons ever.

 

[samac]

I can see arguments made for me/Lawpy being w/w, but how would I be in any pack with Strog?

Can i ask what your thoughts on Lawpy are end of day 1?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Can i ask what your thoughts on Lawpy are end of day 1?

I have him as slight village.

 

[Zenge142]

@genny What are your thoughts on Pippy?

 

[Viscernable]

It's around the end of D1

Dude are you serious here? This post makes no sense. I didn't call sunshiny's play lazy. I said many times that i'm railing against lazy reads that involve repeating someone's reasoning and using that as their own with nothing else to add. That is lazy. And yet i'm getting criticized because i'm getting misread. Your accusation that i'm being a dingus and not wolfhunting is uncalled for.

Yeah I see what you mean, your argument style there was quite similar. My mental Lawpy impression is mostly of enigmatic!Lawpy and tinfoiling!Lawpy oops

 

[Lawpy]

I'm sorry but you getting so salty about a wagon forming on you close to yeet close is hilarious. you literally tried to start a wagon on me 45 minutes before the end of the cycle for the weakest reasons ever.

It's one vote, mkg, which actually isn't that weak.

 

[Stroganoff]

Which itself is wrong because you saw me fighting in a heated exchange as village in bioshock which was a lot spicier than a question i was asking WZ, so the tome change argument doesn't hold.

that feel when WW regulars can refer to past games and I'm just sitting here like 👁️ 👄 👁️

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I remember it because I was in wolf chat for part of last game, twitching about her voting late lol

Please...don’t remind me. If there is conversion, wait, 2 conversions again then SDN will implode!!

 

[supershorty]

All night actions received; night will close at 10pm CDT.

 

[supershorty]

Night closed, results pending.

 

[Stroganoff]

I swear to lemur if I get N1 killed while writing this massive post I'll scream.

 

[supershorty]

Night 1

As the first rays of sunlight broke over the mountains and the sounds of daytime started to take over, the animals stirred. For some, they were waking, hoping to see all of their numbers as they had before. Others were preparing to sleep after looking out during the night. The tension was particularly high after voting off one of their own the day before.

One face was missing from the daily morning meeting, and the group went looking for them to see if they’d slept in or if something more sinister had happened. At their home tree, the animals found signs of a scuffle, and their friend was nowhere to be seen. They checked her sunbathing spot as well, but there was no sign of her or evidence that she’d been there that morning. She was known for her dance moves as she went from one place to another, always entertaining to hang out with, and her loss was another sobering reminder that there were animals in their midst who could not be trusted.

Vanished is @Aprilthearab, Verreaux’s sifaka and a vanillager



14 players remain.
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Stroganoff
4. @Lawpy
5. @samac
6. @Viscernable
7. @WildZoo
8. @PippyPony
9. @differentiating
10. @BobLoblaw78
12. @Zenge142
13. @mkg323
14. @vetmedhead
15. @holdthemayo
16. @genny

Set adrift/Disappeared:
3. @alleycat03, ring-tailed vontsira, vanillager
11. @Aprilthearab, Verreaux’s sifaka, vanillager

It is now Day 2. Vote/Yeet closes at 9pm EDT, 6/6/2021 (~22 hours).​

 

[differentiating]

So, looking at the votes in the last hour before lynch close, just to give me a better idea of how things went:

Unyeet Zenge
Yeet Alley

Unyeet Samac
Yeet Pippy

Vacances a Madagasikara Day 1 Yeet Tally

Zenge () -
AM (1) - mayo
April () -
Vissy (1) - Lawpy
Stroganoff (4) - Vissy, AM, alley, Pippy
mayo (1) - mkg
alley (3) - Dubz, samac, April
mkg () -
differentiating () -
samac () -
Lawpy (1) - differentiating
Pippy (1) - Zenge

@Stroganoff, you are in the lead
12/16 voting
Missing: @Stroganoff, @BobLoblaw78 , @vetmedhead, @genny

Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~45 minutes)

unyeet vissy
yeet MKG

Yeet samac

Vacances a Madagasikara Day 1 Yeet Tally

Zenge () -
AM (1) - mayo
April () -
Vissy () -
Stroganoff (4) - Vissy, AM, alley, Pippy
mayo (1) - mkg
alley (3) - Dubz, samac, April
mkg (1) - Lawpy
differentiating () -
samac (1) - genny
Lawpy (1) - differentiating
Pippy (1) - Zenge

@Stroganoff, you are in the lead
13/16 voting
Missing: @Stroganoff, @BobLoblaw78 , @vetmedhead

Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~40 minutes)

unyeet mayo
yeet alley

Vacances a Madagasikara Day 1 Yeet Tally

Zenge () -
AM (1) - mayo
April () -
Vissy () -
Stroganoff (4) - Vissy, AM, alley, Pippy
mayo () -
alley (4) - Dubz, samac, April, mkg
mkg (1) - Lawpy
differentiating () -
samac (1) - genny
Lawpy (1) - differentiating
Pippy (1) - Zenge

@Stroganoff and @alleycat03, you are in the lead
13/16 voting
Missing: @Stroganoff, @BobLoblaw78 , @vetmedhead

Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~30 minutes)

Oh boy, a tie!

contingency yeet MKG because she's Canadian!

yeet lawpy

vote MKG

unyeet MKG
yeet (lovingly) alley strictly for self-preservation

Unvote strog
Vote lawpy

unyeet mkg
yeet alleys

Vacances a Madagasikara Day 1 Yeet FINAL Tally

Zenge () -
AM (1) - mayo
April () -
Vissy () -
Stroganoff (3) - AM, alley, Pippy
mayo () -
alley (6) - Dubz, samac, April, mkg, Strog, Lawpy
mkg (1) - Bob
differentiating () -
samac (1) - genny
Lawpy (3) - differentiating, vmh, Vissy
Pippy (1) - Zenge

@alleycat03, you are in the lead
16/16 voting
Missing: no one

CHECK YO' VOTES.

So, the swing happened as such: mkg tied it up by voting for alley (strog 4, alley 4), then strog voted alley for self-pres (strog 4, alley 5), vis switched her vote to lawpy from strog (strog 3, alley 5, lawpy 3), and then lawpy switched to alley out of concern a bandwagon would occur (strog 3, alley 6, lawpy 3). April did bring alley within 1 vote of strog, but obviously they're not under suspicion now.

I get that vis was suspicious of lawpy for a while and had only voted for strog as a joke, but it's still strange to me to leave that switch so late - even without voting for alley, they essentially guaranteed alley's lynch over strog. I don't make much of strog's vote (clearly had to to self-prez), and while lawpy's seems a little premature, I can get the reasoning there. mkg's change in vote is also interesting, though, since that started the swing off of strog to alley - but they did say a few times that they didn't like the reasoning for a strog lynch and that they were suspicious of alley. So

Of course, I don't know if strog is village, which probably would make all of these observations fairly pointless and instead I should be looking at those who didn't waffle, but just wanted to look at it to help give myself a better understanding of just what happened there.

 

[Lawpy]

Welp my smartwatch heart rate was >120 for like an hour

 

[differentiating]

Have to cover a night shift tonight to help out a co-resident, so should be up until 6a or so and checking in periodically, and then hopefully should be back after sleep to discuss closer to deadine.

Vote vis for now based on the above, but willing to waffle

edit per mod request!

 

[Stroganoff]

Welp my smartwatch heart rate was >120 for like an hour

Mine's at 102 at the moment, but I'm mid workout.

(And yes to the tinfoilers: I realize this post is off-topic and has no substance. I'll do my best to catch up on the entire game thread before it gets overwhelming. I fixed my sleep schedule specifically for this game, and I'm actually drowsy at night without the need for melatonin or benadryl! So... that feels healthy for once.

I could hypothetically just sleep then WW all day Sunday while doing epic spring cleaning )

 

[Lawpy]

Have to cover a night shift tonight to help out a co-resident, so should be up until 6a or so and checking in periodically, and then hopefully should be back after sleep to discuss closer to deadine.

lynch vis for now based on the above, but willing to waffle

What are your thoughts on vmh/meaty?

 

[Lawpy]

@Zenge142 thoughts so far?

 

[differentiating]

What are your thoughts on vmh/meaty?

I will get back to you on vmh once i see a few kids, but who’s meaty?

 

[Lawpy]

I will get back to you on vmh once i see a few kids, but who’s meaty?

Oh meaty = vmh

Vetmedhead --> meathead --> meats --> meaty

 

[Stroganoff]

Thanks. I didn't remember who meaty was either.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Thanks. I didn't remember who meaty was either.

I could only think stroganoff= beefstroganof = beef = meat

 

[Stroganoff]

I could only think stroganoff= beefstroganof = beef = meat

oho! have you seen me and vmh in the same room at the same time irl?

 

[Zenge142]

Some of her other posts after that sequence felt more like village samac, so in the neutral zone

I felt like this too, but Genny’s commitment to it, and giving her own reasons for voting Samac gave me pause to reconsider my wavering. Much of what I’m giving village points to Samac for are things that are NAI and that she could do as a wolf just as easily. Things she did do just as easily in Goats. When I take those away, all that’s left are the things that ping me.

I wavered a bit after my initial read but I’m firmly back into believing Samac is a wolf with Pippy.

Pippy’s shading of AM was clearly off. AM called her on it, she deflected, and when pressed about that interaction Samac acted like it was NBD/pretended like there was nothing to see and then also deflected.

Spoiler

It obviously didn’t if I didn’t comment on it. If I think something is suspicious I’ll call it out, not hold on to it to question someone.
Is there a reason you decide to bring it up now instead of when you noticed it and as a question to me?

Samac and Pippy had an interesting interaction where Pippy is basically pressing Samac, and I’ve read it at least 5 times now and it just feels so manufactured. It’s pretty brilliant though. It’s practically designed to make people skip past it because it’s so boring and inconsequential. It strikes this great balance of seeming like they’re both pushing each other, and it gives each of them greater thread presence but in reality they’re squabbling over nonsense no one actually reads into and probably skips over. There’s no real substance.

Spoiler

Now I don’t like that

why not?

You know why. You tried to pay people to misyeet me once and being tied for the lead feels icky

You've been tied for the lead for like an hour, and last time I checked, I'm not a mod in this game.

No. You put me in the tie for the lead. Literally 12 minutes ago.

Like, the only thing that's changed is that Strog is now occupying the spot that Zenge was in on the split

@samac

No, love. Alley was in the lead.

Right. It was a 3 way tie, I broke it by putting alley in the lead. Then I moved, because it was boring

This distribution is less boring, so that seems like progress to me

3 way tie for one vote count and you broke it. still just semantics but didn’t like the tie.
the fact that alley just broke it toward stroganoff is interesting though.

Is there a reason she shouldn't be voting for Strog?

Not that I know of but she seemed to be wolf reading me so moving to strog as a self prez move without any exposition when it was a 3 way tie was an interesting move and I don’t know whether to move her wolfy or village.
Day 1 is the bane of my existence.

Etc. etc. Like who seriously cares about this argument enough to look into it and figure out what they’re even fighting about. It’s boring. It’s low steaks. It’s like that by design I suspect.

To be clear I’m not highlighting this interaction as a primary reason I think either of them is wolfing. I’ve given separate thoughts and reasons for each of them. But if we approach this interaction from a lens of asking the question “is this w/w?” Then I think it makes sense as a w/w interaction where they both come out looking like they’re contributing and wolf hunting and engaging in the discussion but doing it in a way that anyone scrolling past with a cursory glance, won’t stop to look to closely at what they’re even talking about and when you do, it feels kind of manufactured.

 

[Stroganoff]

OK so despite fixing my sleep for this game and naturally getting drowsy af before midnight (without the help of melatonin or Benadryl, which never happens), I fought it off and have been up all night helping someone with a situation.

I'll be home all day today doing epic laundry and chores, so I'll have time for WW.

In the past when I played in 2018 or so, giving people a head's up is sometimes read as wolfy. But then again, not posting all day is also seen as absentee wolfy (or ghosting the game thread all day only to vote last minute is sometimes wolfy). So I almost can't win. But I thought I'd throw this out that I'll be home all day today but might sleep in a bit before actually participating in this thread for D2 shenanigans. 🙂

 

[samac]

I felt like this too, but Genny’s commitment to it, and giving her own reasons for voting Samac gave me pause to reconsider my wavering. Much of what I’m giving village points to Samac for are things that are NAI and that she could do as a wolf just as easily. Things she did do just as easily in Goats. When I take those away, all that’s left are the things that ping me.

I wavered a bit after my initial read but I’m firmly back into believing Samac is a wolf with Pippy.

Pippy’s shading of AM was clearly off. AM called her on it, she deflected, and when pressed about that interaction Samac acted like it was NBD/pretended like there was nothing to see and then also deflected.
Samac and Pippy had an interesting interaction where Pippy is basically pressing Samac, and I’ve read it at least 5 times now and it just feels so manufactured. It’s pretty brilliant though. It’s practically designed to make people skip past it because it’s so boring and inconsequential. It strikes this great balance of seeming like they’re both pushing each other, and it gives each of them greater thread presence but in reality they’re squabbling over nonsense no one actually reads into and probably skips over. There’s no real substance. Etc. etc. Like who seriously cares about this argument enough to look into it and figure out what they’re even fighting about. It’s boring. It’s low steaks. It’s like that by design I suspect.

To be clear I’m not highlighting this interaction as a primary reason I think either of them is wolfing. I’ve given separate thoughts and reasons for each of them. But if we approach this interaction from a lens of asking the question “is this w/w?” Then I think it makes sense as a w/w interaction where they both come out looking like they’re contributing and wolf hunting and engaging in the discussion but doing it in a way that anyone scrolling past with a cursory glance, won’t stop to look to closely at what they’re even talking about and when you do, it feels kind of manufactured.

Zenge, you’re firmly wrong on this. Last time you threw shade at me and you were wrong you’re a wolf, and if you lead the charge to get me misyeeted I fully expect you’ll be yeeted tomorrow. I’ve never been yeeted before and if the first time is a misyeet based on how you think I manufactured posts I’ll be pretty pissed.

If I was a wolf I would post village reads to shut people up and get them off my back. That’s so much easier as a wolf because you know who is village.

all that being said you’re one of the ones who kept off both wagons. Is there a reason that voting for pippy when there was a tie was the thing to do?

 

[samac]

Also just to be clear, I wouldn’t lead the charge on a villager day 1 of the damn game. That’s a stupid wolf play and I’m not stupid.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I felt like this too, but Genny’s commitment to it, and giving her own reasons for voting Samac gave me pause to reconsider my wavering. Much of what I’m giving village points to Samac for are things that are NAI and that she could do as a wolf just as easily. Things she did do just as easily in Goats. When I take those away, all that’s left are the things that ping me.

I wavered a bit after my initial read but I’m firmly back into believing Samac is a wolf with Pippy.

Pippy’s shading of AM was clearly off. AM called her on it, she deflected, and when pressed about that interaction Samac acted like it was NBD/pretended like there was nothing to see and then also deflected.
Samac and Pippy had an interesting interaction where Pippy is basically pressing Samac, and I’ve read it at least 5 times now and it just feels so manufactured. It’s pretty brilliant though. It’s practically designed to make people skip past it because it’s so boring and inconsequential. It strikes this great balance of seeming like they’re both pushing each other, and it gives each of them greater thread presence but in reality they’re squabbling over nonsense no one actually reads into and probably skips over. There’s no real substance. Etc. etc. Like who seriously cares about this argument enough to look into it and figure out what they’re even fighting about. It’s boring. It’s low steaks. It’s like that by design I suspect.

To be clear I’m not highlighting this interaction as a primary reason I think either of them is wolfing. I’ve given separate thoughts and reasons for each of them. But if we approach this interaction from a lens of asking the question “is this w/w?” Then I think it makes sense as a w/w interaction where they both come out looking like they’re contributing and wolf hunting and engaging in the discussion but doing it in a way that anyone scrolling past with a cursory glance, won’t stop to look to closely at what they’re even talking about and when you do, it feels kind of manufactured.

Interesting take and much more inline with your normal logic (which I usually follow and agree).

Also just to be clear, I wouldn’t lead the charge on a villager day 1 of the damn game. That’s a stupid wolf play and I’m not stupid.

Funny you decided to go with “I’m not stupid” instead of “I’m not a wolf”. I read it as intentional and hilarious, but on second thought I’m not sure you meant it as funny

 

[BobLoblaw78]

OK so despite fixing my sleep for this game and naturally getting drowsy af before midnight (without the help of melatonin or Benadryl, which never happens), I fought it off and have been up all night helping someone with a situation.

I'll be home all day today doing epic laundry and chores, so I'll have time for WW.

In the past when I played in 2018 or so, giving people a head's up is sometimes read as wolfy. But then again, not posting all day is also seen as absentee wolfy (or ghosting the game thread all day only to vote last minute is sometimes wolfy). So I almost can't win. But I thought I'd throw this out that I'll be home all day today but might sleep in a bit before actually participating in this thread for D2 shenanigans. 🙂

Your not mixing your downers and uppers at the proper ratio. You don’t really have a drug problem as much as you have a chemistry problem.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Zenge, you’re firmly wrong on this. Last time you threw shade at me and you were wrong you’re a wolf, and if you lead the charge to get me misyeeted I fully expect you’ll be yeeted tomorrow. I’ve never been yeeted before and if the first time is a misyeet based on how you think I manufactured posts I’ll be pretty pissed.

If I was a wolf I would post village reads to shut people up and get them off my back. That’s so much easier as a wolf because you know who is village.

all that being said you’re one of the ones who kept off both wagons. Is there a reason that voting for pippy when there was a tie was the thing to do?

I think zenge seemed off first day but is now back to normal thought process. I wasn’t sure if it was him or me after his last game. He and Vis so had me fooled that he was the first time I ever considered salt vote! But I am now wondering if WW can increase your level of paranoia

 

[samac]

Interesting take and much more inline with your normal logic (which I usually follow and agree).

Funny you decided to go with “I’m not stupid” instead of “I’m not a wolf”. I read it as intentional and hilarious, but on second thought I’m not sure you meant it as funny

Sorry thought the I’m not a wolf part was implied there when I said I wasn’t stupid.

I think zenge seemed off first day but is now back to normal thought process. I wasn’t sure if it was him or me after his last game. He and Vis so had me fooled that he was the first time I ever considered salt vote! But I am now wondering if WW can increase your level of paranoia

Zenge actually seemed fairly normal to me day 1. What felt off?

 

[PippyPony]

I felt like this too, but Genny’s commitment to it, and giving her own reasons for voting Samac gave me pause to reconsider my wavering. Much of what I’m giving village points to Samac for are things that are NAI and that she could do as a wolf just as easily. Things she did do just as easily in Goats. When I take those away, all that’s left are the things that ping me.

I wavered a bit after my initial read but I’m firmly back into believing Samac is a wolf with Pippy.

Pippy’s shading of AM was clearly off. AM called her on it, she deflected, and when pressed about that interaction Samac acted like it was NBD/pretended like there was nothing to see and then also deflected.
Samac and Pippy had an interesting interaction where Pippy is basically pressing Samac, and I’ve read it at least 5 times now and it just feels so manufactured. It’s pretty brilliant though. It’s practically designed to make people skip past it because it’s so boring and inconsequential. It strikes this great balance of seeming like they’re both pushing each other, and it gives each of them greater thread presence but in reality they’re squabbling over nonsense no one actually reads into and probably skips over. There’s no real substance. Etc. etc. Like who seriously cares about this argument enough to look into it and figure out what they’re even fighting about. It’s boring. It’s low steaks. It’s like that by design I suspect.

To be clear I’m not highlighting this interaction as a primary reason I think either of them is wolfing. I’ve given separate thoughts and reasons for each of them. But if we approach this interaction from a lens of asking the question “is this w/w?” Then I think it makes sense as a w/w interaction where they both come out looking like they’re contributing and wolf hunting and engaging in the discussion but doing it in a way that anyone scrolling past with a cursory glance, won’t stop to look to closely at what they’re even talking about and when you do, it feels kind of manufactured.

How about you actually read my posts instead of dumping shade all over the same one to try to build a vote on me while maybe kinda sorta pocketing AM? I didn't "deflect," I had a conversation with AM and then liked where she voted because I was sketched out by how Strog popped on yesterday with an insult and then an excuse.

Meanwhile, she moved her vote off of YOU, at which point you immediately pivoted to being like "piPPy yyyy U tHiNK AM wOLFy ???", which looks a whole lot like you saw an opportunity to try to get AM in your pocket and jumped on it.

Interestingly, that was also the same time that activity picked up, which to me means that there was potentially a wolf on the board yesterday. So the fact that you immediately turned to tossing out buzzwords at that point to see if you could get me on the board as a village counter makes me want to look real hard at you if Strog flips wolf.