Poorly DWWawn Mafia (gamethread)

[WildZoo]

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i take issues with her spurs vote

Why?

 

[fruitsalad]

WZ, who do you think i’m paired with if you think i’m a wolf here?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm busy atm

 

[WildZoo]

WZ, who do you think i’m paired with if you think i’m a wolf here?

I already said, kitz

Spurs is a possibility though

 

[kitzsuna]

Yeet kitz

???

 

[Animal Midwife]

???

Could you give me your updated thoughts on the gamestate?

 

[reddeadrobin]

#1071

 

[kitzsuna]

Sheesh

Could you give me your updated thoughts on the gamestate?

can you tell me why you immediately took a shot at me?

 

[fruitsalad]

Why?

because these posts don’t sit right

they don’t look pure tonally

I am mildly concerned that spurs may be trying to be too helpful/doing too much.

But also that feels like a particularly mean reason to yeet someone if the tingles are won't and he's not a wolf

As my reasonable ping for now and being out of time

Yeet spurs

@Clem J

If I make it back between appointments I'll try to keep up but it's unlikely. And if I'm wrong spurs, then you'll get grovelling gifs for a while as way of apology

 

[Animal Midwife]

#1071

That's saying that we're v/v, not that we're a pack.

 

[fruitsalad]

I already said, kitz

Spurs is a possibility though

how am i paired with kitz exactly?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sheesh

can you tell me why you immediately took a shot at me?

I am suspicious of you and you fit with multiple different packs.

 

[genny]

I did not know if you meant "after fruits's speculation last night" or "ever, at any point in the game," even if that was readily apparent to you 🙂 I agree with your fundamental premise that it isn't super useful in the current threadstate so I propose we move on.

do you have fruit thoughts?

 

[Clem J]

d2

Animal Midwife ( ):
fruitsalad ( 1 ): dubz
genny ( ):
GoSpursGo ( ):
kitzsuna ( 1 ): AM
SARdoghandler ( 1 ): fruit
screamqueenbee ( ):
WildZoo ( ):
Sleep ( ):

 

[reddeadrobin]

That's saying that we're v/v, not that we're a pack.

No, it says if AM and SQB are both V at the same time. I know that I'm v, therefore I cannot be in a pack w/ you. Which is why I said look at Dubs/PSV. If then statement

 

[GoSpursGo]

do you have fruit thoughts?

That if he is wolf, he is certainly being bussed (or specifically paired with me).

I've never seen an outright bus, so I feel like I would have trouble spotting it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

No, it says if AM and SQB are both V at the same time. I know that I'm v, therefore I cannot be in a pack w/ you. Which is why I said look at Dubs/PSV. If then statement

Tight but he was only ever saying we could be w/v at most, not that we're w/w (which is what a pack is).

 

[GoSpursGo]

also i'm a little concerned AM might be a wolf.

What are your AM thoughts?

 

[kitzsuna]

Could you give me your updated thoughts on the gamestate?

PSV seems like kind of a random kill, which surprises me.

Still dont have much of a read on genny (havent seem her much other than random fruit vote), SAR, or squeeb.

I find it interesting that you were very targeted on spurs, who nearly got yeeted, but then are suddenly shifting focus after a misyeet and v death

Dubz…im going back and forth on somewhat.

Fruits i am going to think more critically about - you think im paired with him, and he was one of my stronger v reads. So im trying to see what you/others see there cause i sure dont lol

 

[genny]

That if he is wolf, he is certainly being bussed (or specifically paired with me).

I've never seen an outright bus, so I feel like I would have trouble spotting it.

those are thoughts about reactions to fruit. what about fruit himself?

 

[kitzsuna]

I am suspicious of you and you fit with multiple different packs.

Well that was enlightening lol

 

[fruitsalad]

PSV seems like kind of a random kill, which surprises me.

i don’t think so actually

PSV was village read fairly well

 

[reddeadrobin]

Tight but he was only ever saying we could be w/v at most, not that we're w/w (which is what a pack is).

Thanks for explaining that to me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

PSV seems like kind of a random kill, which surprises me.

Who were you expecting to die?

Still dont have much of a read on genny (havent seem her much other than random fruit vote), SAR, or squeeb.

She's shared thoughts beyond fruit. Could you look more into those three for me?

I find it interesting that you were very targeted on spurs, who nearly got yeeted, but then are suddenly shifting focus after a misyeet and v death

Why is it interesting?

Dubz…im going back and forth on somewhat.

Why's that?

 

[kitzsuna]

i don’t think so actually

PSV was village read fairly well

Why wouldnt they go for someone else though? Id think they would take shots at more “problematic” players?

 

[GoSpursGo]

those are thoughts about reactions to fruit. what about fruit himself?

I've said I think he's village, but because I'm under the impression even fruits would have a very hard time using bussing as a strategy in a 2 wolf game. Ceding 50% of your team at the jump just seems like playing on hard mode.

He has sufficiently been sus'd be enough players that it becomes almost impossible to construct a non-bussing pack with fruits unless you paired him with me (or maybe SAR).

 

[reddeadrobin]

Why wouldnt they go for someone else though? Id think they would take shots at more “problematic” players?

WHo do you think are the problematic players?

 

[WildZoo]

I've said I think he's village, but because I'm under the impression even fruits would have a very hard time using bussing as a strategy in a 2 wolf game. Ceding 50% of your team at the jump just seems like playing on hard mode.

He has sufficiently been sus'd be enough players that it becomes almost impossible to construct a non-bussing pack with fruits unless you paired him with me (or maybe SAR).

I'm confused by this statement

Only kitz, genny, and I have ever voted for him, and kitz left very early

 

[WildZoo]

Like kitz voted for fruit, left for a bit, and the first thing she did when she got back was unvote him. With several hours left in the day.

That's...not actually putting him in any danger. At all.

 

[fruitsalad]

Like kitz voted for fruit, left for a bit, and the first thing she did when she got back was unvote him. With several hours left in the day.

That's...not actually putting him in any danger. At all.

kitz started a wagon on me, with genny following the kitz vote right after

My b

Sorry unclear

Yeet fruit

@Clem J

Yeet fruit

@Clem J

His opening pinged me as hello fellow kids

 

[WildZoo]

kitz started a wagon on me, with genny following the kitz vote right after

kitz dropped a vote on you as a placeholder and was gone before genny voted, and then moved as soon as she got back

 

[fruitsalad]

Now here's an actual move that I enjoy.

it was then followed up by this AM post

 

[genny]

What are your AM thoughts?

her vote for you came only when she herself was leading the vote, and moved off you once she was safe. i think that fits with the way she questioned you to evaluate you. seems to fit her village meta pretty well, but she's good a replicating that when wolfing. i'm not sure i can put her in a pack though unless it's exactly wz/am. since you seem to be wolf reading her, who would you pair AM with?

 

[WildZoo]

Who was it that said to put something down to not get a RNG then? Cause thats the only reason i put fruits down

Cause i remember that fruits typically likes to vote randomly d1 (even if it stresses me out lol)

Unyeet fruits

@Clem J

Literally the first thing she did when she got back to the thread

 

[fruitsalad]

kitz dropped a vote on you as a placeholder and was gone before genny voted, and then moved as soon as she got back

the explanation surrounding that vote makes it look less like a placeholder even though that was the intent, kitz stated she didn’t like the random voting

Ok think i caught up

Going to yeet @fruitsalad just to have a vote on the board so i dont get RNG’d in case i have more travel shenanigans but i don’t feel superb strongly about it, fruits always makes me nervous with random voting

AM made my hairs raise a little with tone, but i think thats more of a locking in to win after last game went the way it did 🫠

Ah **** my plane is moving lol WELP thats all i got for now

@Clem J

 

[WildZoo]

the explanation surrounding that vote makes it look less like a placeholder even though that was the intent, kitz stated she didn’t like the random voting

I don't really care about that, sorry.

 

[WildZoo]

or maybe SAR).

also he's currently voting for SAR

 

[fruitsalad]

I don't really care about that, sorry.

fact of the matter is kitz added a vote on me, placeholder or otherwise, genny followed up, and AM expressed support

you think i wasn’t in danger at that time it happened?

 

[WildZoo]

fact of the matter is kitz added a vote on me, placeholder or otherwise, genny followed up, and AM expressed support

you think i wasn’t in danger at that time it happened?

You were not in danger at the time kitz placed her vote. She literally got on a plane. No one had mentioned you prior, genny's vote and AM's support came later, and once kitz came back and could actually see those things, she moved. Therefore I do not think it's unpairing.

 

[WildZoo]

Keep trying to push that it is though, I'm sure you'll convince me somehow that kitz was psychic

 

[fruitsalad]

You were not in danger at the time kitz placed her vote. She literally got on a plane. No one had mentioned you prior, genny's vote and AM's support came later, and once kitz came back and could actually see those things, she moved. Therefore I do not think it's unpairing.

they came in the span of <20 min from kitz vote

Keep trying to push that it is though, I'm sure you'll convince me somehow that kitz was psychic

i’m disputing the danger comment, votes on me don’t unpair anyone, and i even said that before

 

[WildZoo]

they came in the span of <20 min from kitz vote


i’m disputing the danger comment, votes on me don’t unpair anyone, and i even said that before

That doesn't matter if she literally got on a plane right after placing her vote. Do you have some way of knowing she was here that I don't?

And if the latter is the case then what is your point with this argument, exactly?

 

[WildZoo]

My b

Sorry unclear

Yeet fruit

@Clem J

8:49am

No other posts until

Who was it that said to put something down to not get a RNG then? Cause thats the only reason i put fruits down

Cause i remember that fruits typically likes to vote randomly d1 (even if it stresses me out lol)

Unyeet fruits

@Clem J

12:10pm

 

[WildZoo]

I'm gonna go back to chillin since I don't really have anything else to say on this subject

 

[fruitsalad]

That doesn't matter if she literally got on a plane right after placing her vote. Do you have some way of knowing she was here that I don't?

And if the latter is the case then what is your point with this argument, exactly?

i’m disputing the danger comment

the votes separated by <20 min can’t be ignored

 

[fruitsalad]

i suppose i can see a case of pairing me with spurs, but pairing me with kitz is a stretch

again, votes on me aren’t unpairing

 

[GoSpursGo]

I'm confused by this statement

I mean if you're starting with 2 wolves, and you bus 1 of them, you're giving up half of your teammates and leave yourself needing the remaining wolf to play flawlessly. I just think extremely risky in a 2 wolf game, but again I am no expert on bussing.

Only kitz, genny, and I have ever voted for him, and kitz left very early

also he's currently voting for SAR

Hadn't noticed the vote. I'll need to re-catch up as I've been juggling bedtime. This is what I said about nonbussing scenarios for fruits, and why I think if fruits is a wolf, he is either being bussed or has a narrow list of partners (either me, or maybe kitz)

AM- I don't think fruit outright starts saying he thinks he was wrong about you being village if you're in a pack
genny - voted for him
PSV - fruit voted for her (again, possible distancing)
SAR - fruit threw her name out in a pack with you and obviously now voting for her
dubZ - voted for him
squeeb - fruit spent a significant amount of time poking at squeeb in a way that I don't think was manufactured
kitz - voted for him, and even in a bussing world I can't imagine fruits would then leave a n00blet wolf to fend for herself against 8 other players to your point he was never in any real danger so maybe he could be paired here.

I could absolutely be paired with him, or pocketed by him, but if pocketed I don't have anyone obvious to pair him with.

If you want to pair him with me with him, as above, that's possible.

ETA: fix typos and fix incomplete sentence at the end

 

[GoSpursGo]

her vote for you came only when she herself was leading the vote, and moved off you once she was safe. i think that fits with the way she questioned you to evaluate you. seems to fit her village meta pretty well, but she's good a replicating that when wolfing. i'm not sure i can put her in a pack though unless it's exactly wz/am. since you seem to be wolf reading her, who would you pair AM with?

dubZ, maybe SAR.

 

[WildZoo]

I mean if you're starting with 2 wolves, and you bus 1 of them, you're giving up half of your teammates and leave yourself needing the remaining wolf to play flawlessly. I just think extremely risky in a 2 wolf game, but again I am no expert on bussing.

I agree, but like I said, there are relatively few people who this would apply to in a w!fruit world. genny and I actually threatened his life. He only threatened apop's (village). I would also agree he's probably not partnered with SAR, squeeb, or AM but those arguments are weaker.

Also this argument itself is exactly why it could work, but I think most players wouldn't do it because of the risk of the deep wolf being caught by mechanics.

 

[WildZoo]

i suppose i can see a case of pairing me with spurs, but pairing me with kitz is a stretch

again, votes on me aren’t unpairing

So then why can't I pair you with kitz?

I'm also fine with pairing you with Spurs. That doesn't bother me all that much.