Poorly DWWawn Mafia (gamethread)

[Animal Midwife]

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Who is resisting?

(Whatever list you respond with, you can add me to it because I'm probably about to be on it 😂)

You were already on it. The others are

Spurs
squeeb
and even Dubz

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I isoed kitz and I need others to summarize what they're seeing there because I'm not feeling wolfy about it? On the assumption she has a wolf partner helping her out, her posts still seem a bit too... Flaily for that? (Said with love, kitz 😂)

Like her read on AM has flip flopped from initial sketch to village to OMGUS sketch. Between that and saying she expected AM to be the kill, then doubling down on her fight with AM? I mean, I'd hope that her wolf partner would tell her that's probably a really fast way to get herself yeeted 😂

It just feels like an easy yeet for wolves to either push through or just sit back and let AM drive that train (if AM is village). I could even see wolves doing some of the push back to massive later flip back onto AM when kitz flips village

 

[WildZoo]

You were already on it. The others are

Spurs
squeeb
and even Dubz

Okay I don't think it's fair to say I was resisting a kitz vote. I never said anything negative about anyone voting there, and I have been talking about her being my top read behind fruit since yesterday.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

You were already on it. The others are

Spurs
squeeb
and even Dubz

Did I resist the kitz yeet prior to this check in?

 

[Animal Midwife]

But why 🙁

You've defended kitz since D1 and are only voting her because I requested you did. There has been no case on her.

 

[WildZoo]

You've defended kitz since D1 and are only voting her because I requested you did. There has been no case on her.

You're going to need to show receipts on that, I don't remember ever defending her, and I said pretty early on that I thought she was posting differently this game.

 

[WildZoo]

The only reason I hadn't voted there earlier was that I was voting for fruit, and then I needed time to realign my brain

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did I resist the kitz yeet prior to this check in?

Before the this post and the last? Or before this cycle started?

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Before the this post and the last? Or before this cycle started?

As in prior to approximately 30 minutes ago when I came back online and said I planned to iso her since hey name had come up a lot

 

[reddeadrobin]

You were already on it. The others are

Spurs
squeeb
and even Dubz

I don't remember ever resisting a Kits vote, so no.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Sigh.

Break time.

I'm back. I may need to conclude that Shaun T is no longer on the list of trainers I can exercise with in my late 30s.

This is probably going to be my last catch up and then I anticipate I won't be around at EOD. Which means I probably won't be able to stop myself, but we'll see.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Okay AM just like dragged me harder than I think I've ever been dragged for forgetting that genny was her first and strongest town read so why are you asking if she's wolf reading her

I was busy with my stupid tinfoil and missed most of the conversation. I did subsequently say this

I guess it tells me you’re not wolf reading genny but it requires me to use two brain cells at once.

 

[WildZoo]

Kitz/Fruit is currently my strongest suspicion

Like kitz voted for fruit, left for a bit, and the first thing she did when she got back was unvote him. With several hours left in the day.

That's...not actually putting him in any danger. At all.

I won't quote every single post where I talked about a possible fruit/kitz pairing but there were a lot.

So vote for her then

^ literally told fruit to vote for her. Yes, very resist.

Kitz is posting very differently from how she has historically but I can't 100% say that's not just progression in playstyle

(Would be helpful if I hadn't killed her so early last game. Oops.)

I think you identified the difference I'm seeing, it's in the way she's answering questions/explaining reads. It's more polished than what I'm used to from her. True it's possibly just progression, but she also didn't play very long last game, so it seems like quite the jump from CYO.

I think probably kitz is a good vote and if she flips village then it would be hard to create a universe where at least one of the four of us isn't wolfing.

Unless it's like...SAR/genny, which sounds like a bad time for me

...I think I just basically repeated what you said

Yep, sure am defending her

Being sus of Dubz is at least fully in character for kitz so there is that

If I stay within that worldview that would make the most sense but I'm not sure it's right

These plus the post where I said "what if nooblet" are the only times where I said anything that wasn't in favor and I feel like that is an allowable amount of being unsure about things while I'm still recovering from extracting myself from a tunnel.

 

[WildZoo]

I was busy with my stupid tinfoil and missed most of the conversation. I did subsequently say this

Well apparently I'm in her POE so you guys can team up and vote for me now if you like. Would be kind of funny tbh. I suppose I did tell you to play nice with her.

 

[GoSpursGo]

I think we may need a temperature reset.

@GoSpursGo You said Little Spurs drew some tigers earlier?

She did! I don’t readily have them on hand but she drew this during church today, and I suspect we won’t reuse birds

 

[GoSpursGo]

Okay AM just like dragged me harder than I think I've ever been dragged for forgetting that genny was her first and strongest town read so why are you asking if she's wolf reading her

This actually does remind me I should go back and include that in my catch up.

Alrighty

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

At my own peril

Yeet AM

I know I just said her intensity seemed more village but I don't love the narrative she's been driving today. Feels more like an agenda

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

At my own peril

Yeet AM

I know I just said her intensity seemed more village but I don't love the narrative she's been driving today. Feels more like an agenda

@Clem J

 

[Animal Midwife]

You're going to need to show receipts on that, I don't remember ever defending her, and I said pretty early on that I thought she was posting differently this game.

Many of your posts today were about a fruit/kitz world. Heavy on fruit side (which, in itself, is fine because I don't think everyone needs to be necessarily vote for the same player).

Here are a few of examples.

Kitz/Fruit is currently my strongest suspicion

But I intend to do some previous game kitz-ISOing too. Later. I need to wash my hair.

...

Why is Spurs allowed to only be able to pair AM with me, but I am not allowed to pair fruit with kitz

Seems like a double standard!

...

Why are you more interested in fruits as opposed to kitz?

Because I'm more confident about fruit individually

However, when you proposed a world where I, Spurs, fruit, and you are town, you no longer wanted to pursue kitz despite that meaning she'd have to be a wolf from your perspective (as you did not take issue with squeeb or SAR).

Exchange below:

Does that mean you're going to vote kitz?

If I stay within that worldview that would make the most sense but I'm not sure it's right

Why isn't it right?

Because I'm nervous

What if she's just a wee nooblet

These are also posts from before the cycle started which can be a soft defense.

Kitz is posting very differently from how she has historically but I can't 100% say that's not just progression in playstyle

(Would be helpful if I hadn't killed her so early last game. Oops.)

Being sus of Dubz is at least fully in character for kitz so there is that

 

[GoSpursGo]

I did. I never saw you say that and you liked several posts village Spurs every time you were on, including less than an hour before EOD.

This was in response to kitz saying she was going to flip her vote to me at end of D1 if she hadn't missed the end of vote. This is the only post I can immediately find that seems to fit the criteria of liking a post that suggested me being village, and it's not like that's the only content in the post.

Frankly, I'm not sure where to go from here because I feel like the AM/Spurs business took center stage there for a good while and I'm not going to vote for Spurs. AM I feel neutral on.

Frankly this isn't a huge deal either way but I said I was going to look into this. It would have been meaningful if kitz had been blatantly lying here

 

[WildZoo]

However, when you proposed a world where I, Spurs, fruit, and you are town, you no longer wanted to pursue kitz despite that meaning she'd have to be a wolf from your perspective (as you did not take issue with squeeb or SAR).

I never said I no longer wanted to pursue kitz! I had literally just arrived at that possible world. The hmm was literally me still thinking about it. And you're leaving out the part where I said kitz was a good vote (which I quoted above).

You're way overrepresenting me thinking things through.

 

[kitzsuna]

Just gonna say my goodbyes now cause idk what else i can say in defense of myself since what i have said just seems to get discounted lol

For the record, i’ve been noncommittal in past games with few exceptions cause i am not super at reading people yet, and the times i have really stuck on one persons case was in the good pwwace with an ability check on samac, but then being terribly wrong on my read of psv. So not having clear “youre a wolf youre a village youre a wolf youre a village” isnt new lol

Good luck!

 

[GoSpursGo]

Ok I have a few minutes while the toddler enjoys some tablet time so if anyone wants to real time now is the chance. Otherwise I'll be isoing

AM is feeling more aggro now than she was in Good Pwwace I think. Might be pushing to village lean there

Queeb I worked out today, that means I earned wine! Are you feeling better?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Is either Spurs/kitz or Squeeb/kitz incompatible?

Pls approach this as if I've forgotten everything I ever knew about this game. Coming out of my fruit tunnel reset my brain completely.

I'm probably not incompatible with kitz.

I can't immediately incompatiblize squeeb/kitz but I certainly haven't looked into it in great detail

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Queeb I worked out today, that means I earned wine! Are you feeling better?

Depends on the amount of drugs currently in my system 😂

 

[kitzsuna]

Also to fruits point, yes i cant derpclear indefinitely but i still am very much learning and trying to get more into playing. Im still not entirely clear on what bussing is for example but im assume its dragging people along for better or worse
If yall are so determined that this is my first w!kitz game, does it really seem like im being coached? Especially if saying psv was a random kill, since everyone reacted like that was a wack thing to say?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Because genuine ambivalence would mean they're okay with her going over. Instead, there's resistance.

I'm not sure I agree there is resistance.

If not you, I would probably vote kitz today. I think you and she intersect most of my POE.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Queeb I worked out today, that means I earned wine! Are you feeling better?

However my mom just poured me this for a glass of wine so queebing may occur

Spoiler: Click

lol sideways fits somehow

 

[GoSpursGo]

I isoed kitz and I need others to summarize what they're seeing there because I'm not feeling wolfy about it? On the assumption she has a wolf partner helping her out, her posts still seem a bit too... Flaily for that? (Said with love, kitz 😂)

Like her read on AM has flip flopped from initial sketch to village to OMGUS sketch. Between that and saying she expected AM to be the kill, then doubling down on her fight with AM? I mean, I'd hope that her wolf partner would tell her that's probably a really fast way to get herself yeeted 😂

It just feels like an easy yeet for wolves to either push through or just sit back and let AM drive that train (if AM is village). I could even see wolves doing some of the push back to massive later flip back onto AM when kitz flips village

The first paragraph is sort of how I've felt and why I ultimately land on AM being slightly more sus. Like, her pack-mate COULD be coaching her on saying a few things that still seem flail-y. And I dislike that her reads basically now mirror mine and fruits's. But GTH, I still think more n00b than wolf.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Im still not entirely clear on what bussing is for example but im assume its dragging people along for better or worse

Bussing means one packmate is actively voting for/driving to vote another out. The idea is it will give the remaining packmate so much village cred that they will slip through to the end.

 

[Animal Midwife]

As in prior to approximately 30 minutes ago when I came back online and said I planned to iso her since hey name had come up a lot

Okay. Your only comment "suspecting" kitz is saying you'll look closer at her "if fruit flips wolf." Every subsequent post is about how she's very village.

 

[kitzsuna]

Bussing means one packmate is actively voting for/driving to vote another out. The idea is it will give the remaining packmate so much village cred that they will slip through to the end.

So THATS where the whole fruit/kitz theory came from

 

[WildZoo]

I isoed kitz and I need others to summarize what they're seeing there because I'm not feeling wolfy about it? On the assumption she has a wolf partner helping her out, her posts still seem a bit too... Flaily for that? (Said with love, kitz 😂)

Like her read on AM has flip flopped from initial sketch to village to OMGUS sketch. Between that and saying she expected AM to be the kill, then doubling down on her fight with AM? I mean, I'd hope that her wolf partner would tell her that's probably a really fast way to get herself yeeted 😂

It just feels like an easy yeet for wolves to either push through or just sit back and let AM drive that train (if AM is village). I could even see wolves doing some of the push back to massive later flip back onto AM when kitz flips village

I think there's a lot of assumptions made here that you can't necessarily make without knowing exactly who a theoretical packmate would be, how much they've been around, and whether kitz would be checking in with them before every single post they make.

I just don't think "well a packmate wouldn't let them do that" is a valid way to try to determine if someone is a noob wolf. There are some specific kinds of posts that, yes, are more likely to come from a villager than a noob wolf but it is altogether pretty rare for a packmate to be coaching every single thing a noob wolf says on thread.

 

[GoSpursGo]

We got a tie I think

d2
Animal Midwife ( 3 ): spurs, kitz, SAR
fruitsalad ( ):
genny ( ):
GoSpursGo ( ):
kitzsuna ( 3 ): AM, fruit, dubZ
SARdoghandler ( ):
screamqueenbee ( ):
WildZoo ( ):
Sleep ( ):

 

[GoSpursGo]

We got a tie I think

d2
Animal Midwife ( 3 ): spurs, kitz, SAR
fruitsalad ( ):
genny ( ):
GoSpursGo ( ):
kitzsuna ( 3 ): AM, fruit, dubZ
SARdoghandler ( ):
screamqueenbee ( ):
WildZoo ( ):
Sleep ( ):

Missing @genny and @screamqueenbee I believe

 

[GoSpursGo]

We got a tie I think

d2
Animal Midwife ( 3 ): spurs, kitz, SAR
fruitsalad ( ):
genny ( ):
GoSpursGo ( ):
kitzsuna ( 3 ): AM, fruit, dubZ
SARdoghandler ( ):
screamqueenbee ( ):
WildZoo ( ):
Sleep ( ):

@Clem J in case this is helpful, though I'm sure he'll verify

 

[Animal Midwife]

I isoed kitz and I need others to summarize what they're seeing there because I'm not feeling wolfy about it? On the assumption she has a wolf partner helping her out, her posts still seem a bit too... Flaily for that? (Said with love, kitz 😂)

Like her read on AM has flip flopped from initial sketch to village to OMGUS sketch. Between that and saying she expected AM to be the kill, then doubling down on her fight with AM? I mean, I'd hope that her wolf partner would tell her that's probably a really fast way to get herself yeeted 😂

It just feels like an easy yeet for wolves to either push through or just sit back and let AM drive that train (if AM is village). I could even see wolves doing some of the push back to massive later flip back onto AM when kitz flips village

...Is anyone suspecting her for saying I'd die? Even I said I didn't get it but that it was a valid answer. I'm taking issue with everything else (including that she still has avoided answering simple questions I have about her own reads).

 

[Animal Midwife]

I won't quote every single post where I talked about a possible fruit/kitz pairing but there were a lot.

^ literally told fruit to vote for her. Yes, very resist.





Yep, sure am defending her



These plus the post where I said "what if nooblet" are the only times where I said anything that wasn't in favor and I feel like that is an allowable amount of being unsure about things while I'm still recovering from extracting myself from a tunnel.

Okay. Who are you looking at for a partner?

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I think there's a lot of assumptions made here that you can't necessarily make without knowing exactly who a theoretical packmate would be, how much they've been around, and whether kitz would be checking in with them before every single post they make.

I just don't think "well a packmate wouldn't let them do that" is a valid way to try to determine if someone is a noob wolf. There are some specific kinds of posts that, yes, are more likely to come from a villager than a noob wolf but it is altogether pretty rare for a packmate to be coaching every single thing a noob wolf says on thread.

While I think it's true that there are assumptions here, I'm looking at the overall vibe of kitz's pays rather than individual posts and they just don't feel super coached when looked at as a whole to me 🤷‍♀️

 

[Animal Midwife]

At my own peril

Yeet AM

I know I just said her intensity seemed more village but I don't love the narrative she's been driving today. Feels more like an agenda

Ah yes, more vague buzzwords. So then who are you pairing me with per the "narrative I've been driving"? Don't say "I don't know, let's just flip you first anyway."

 

[WildZoo]

While I think it's true that there are assumptions here, I'm looking at the overall vibe of kitz's pays rather than individual posts and they just don't feel super coached when looked at as a whole to me 🤷‍♀️

I know you hate pair analysis but who do you think is partnered with AM?

 

[WildZoo]

Ah yes, more vague buzzwords. So then who are you pairing me with per the "narrative I've been driving"? Don't say "I don't know, let's just flip you first anyway."

I know you hate pair analysis but who do you think is partnered with AM?

Ope

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Ah yes, more vague buzzwords. So then who are you pairing me with per the "narrative I've been driving"? Don't say "I don't know, let's just flip you first anyway."

I don't know, let's just flip you first anyway

 

[WildZoo]

Okay. Who are you looking at for a partner?

Well it would seem most likely squeeb in my current worldview, or it's Spurs, or the soul read is well and truly dead and it's SAR.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't know, let's just flip you first anyway

When you respond to Dubz, it better be a real answer since you ignored both of my posts now.

 

[Animal Midwife]

This was in response to kitz saying she was going to flip her vote to me at end of D1 if she hadn't missed the end of vote. This is the only post I can immediately find that seems to fit the criteria of liking a post that suggested me being village, and it's not like that's the only content in the post.


Frankly this isn't a huge deal either way but I said I was going to look into this. It would have been meaningful if kitz had been blatantly lying here

I can't ISO but likes I can tell you right now from memory that she kept liking your post and liked the apop post regarding her being sad about dying.

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

I know you hate pair analysis but who do you think is partnered with AM?

I don't like pair analysis because I solve through real time and individual isos. I struggle to pair without a flip. I can tell you I don't think she's paired with kitz and I doubt with spurs.

 

[reddeadrobin]

@Clem J
Yeet AM

 

[WildZoo]

I don't like pair analysis because I solve through real time and individual isos. I struggle to pair without a flip. I can tell you I don't think she's paired with kitz and I doubt with spurs.

So who else is in your POE?

 

[genny]

Missing @genny and @screamqueenbee I believe

Uh oh. Yeet genny I guess.