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Does anyone know about Hackensack in NJ that just started the IM residency this year? I read a post about it earlier last year but just wanted to follow it up with how residents think it is now. It is a new program but is it still a "low educational experience?"
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I’d be hesitant to go anywhere that hasn’t been around for a couple years. I have heard good things about the hospital though
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Can anbody tell me more about this program?
I know they are prematch. How long after the interview do they extend offers?
 
Clichebomb said:
Regarding the southern California programs:
- I just wanted to quickly chime in because I see a lot of questions regarding UCLA-OV, vs Harbor, vs CSMC, etc. Of note, I'm not myself a resident at any of these programs, but I interact with quite a few residents in them who rotate through Reagan and the VA.

Olive View: I actually have first hand experience rotating here. I see it referenced as a "community program", whatever that means, but it really has a heavy "county"-vibe, lots of underserved/bread and butter medicine, with an "international" flavor (lots of immigrants from south/central America, and the ID that comes with it). The faculty are dual-appointed at DGSOM/UCLA, and they have some fantastic clinical instructors. A lot of the consult services and MICU are staffed by UCLA fellows so you get that exposure (more so than at Harbor). Unlike at Harbor, OV residents actually do 2 months at Reagan as an intern (MICU/CCU), and another 2 months as seniors (MICU/CCU again). These are rough rotations, but offer some pretty incredible clinical exposure. And as far as matching, I know UCLA Cards program takes ~1 a year from OV it seems (though these are almost always chiefs at OV, a lot of whom seem to have gone to UCLA for med school).

As far as reputation (from my perception), I would say UCSD > USC > Cedars/OV/Harbor/UCI.

Hope some of this is helpful.
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Useful to know.

Out of curiosity, did cedars suffer from losing the VA? Otherwise it used to be held in higher regard than usc...
 
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Anicetus said:
Useful to know.

Out of curiosity, did cedars suffer from losing the VA? Otherwise it used to be held in higher regard than usc...
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I regard USC and cedars as roughly equivalent and would argue that Cedars has a stronger match list on average. Honestly don't think UCSD is that far above either in terms of strength.
 
any information on pennsylvania hospital guys? is it scutwork heavy? hours heavy? whats the teaching like? thanks
 
Hey all, I'd really appreciate some help if you can provide it. Completely overwhelmed by all of these big hospital systems and ?university-affiliate hospitals. For context, I'm a US-IMG from a western European university; I'm particularly interested in haem-onc.

I have a handful of interview offers at solid university programs (ex: UW, GWU), a handful of university-community programs I'm familiar with (ex: Mount Auburn, Pennsy), as well as some straight-up community programs.

Some of my offers, however, are totally confusing to me, and I'm not sure what they are or what their broader reputation is. Any advice, re:
  • Einstein Philly
  • Hofsra Staten Island
  • Hofsra Lenox Hill
  • Montefiore Wakefield
  • Maricopa Medical Centre in Phoenix
  • MedStar Washington (nb: I am already interviewing at Georgetown's main university hospital)
If you're familiar with the NYC programs, could you compare them to Mount Sinai SLR? That's kind of my baseline NY program, at the moment. My goal is to cut programs without making my rank list too top heavy for an IMG.

Thank you for your help in advance!
 
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bigbillybrennan said:
any information on pennsylvania hospital guys? is it scutwork heavy? hours heavy? whats the teaching like? thanks
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I haven't rotated there, but I did do an observership during M2. I was pretty impressed by the teaching; I felt that the attendings were invested in their residents' success and really took the time to share information and wisdom. The interns that I interacted with seemed happy, and were always smiling and friendly to me as a medical student. They took the time to show me ECGs and stuff like that.

I can't speak to the scutwork or hours, but I came away from the program with a good vibe and was pleased to be offered an interview there.
 
Not sure if I'm going to get many answers, but I have a bunch of university interviews and am going to schedule 2 community programs as well. It's between Danbury Hospital in CT, and Rochester General Hospital. My goal is fellowship, non-GI/Cards. Possibly Pulm.

Danbury:
Pros: Location- closer to family + better for SO
Stronger fellowship match- or so it seems.

Cons: Small hospital, perhaps limited pathology.

Rochester:
Pros: Larger hospital- while a lot may still get sent to Strong Memorial

Cons: Weather
Weaker fellowship match
 
gorbage said:
Hey all, I'd really appreciate some help if you can provide it. Completely overwhelmed by all of these big hospital systems and ?university-affiliate hospitals. For context, I'm a US-IMG from a western European university; I'm particularly interested in haem-onc.

I have a handful of interview offers at solid university programs (ex: UW, GWU), a handful of university-community programs I'm familiar with (ex: Mount Auburn, Pennsy), as well as some straight-up community programs.

Some of my offers, however, are totally confusing to me, and I'm not sure what they are or what their broader reputation is. Any advice, re:
  • Einstein Philly
  • Hofsra Staten Island
  • Hofsra Lenox Hill
  • Montefiore Wakefield
  • Maricopa Medical Centre in Phoenix
  • MedStar Washington (nb: I am already interviewing at Georgetown's main university hospital)
If you're familiar with the NYC programs, could you compare them to Mount Sinai SLR? That's kind of my baseline NY program, at the moment. My goal is to cut programs without making my rank list too top heavy for an IMG.

Thank you for your help in advance!
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Can you give us a lowdown on St lukes mount sinai? Regarding teaching scut and hours. Is the resident housing nice ?thx
 
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Anybody have any comments about DMC program? It seems like they work very hard and get good training but a lot of patients like that doesn’t necessarily mean good learning. Also it doesn’t seem like they have good outpatient training
 
unnumzaan said:
I regard USC and cedars as roughly equivalent and would argue that Cedars has a stronger match list on average. Honestly don't think UCSD is that far above either in terms of strength.
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A plug for the Scripps Medicine internal residency program - it's fantastic. I just finished my 3rd year residency this year. Excellent clinical training, and preparation for medicine or medicine subspecialties. Their new program director is responsive and motivated. For research, there are great faculty at Scripps Clinic who can mentor you on projects. Scripps Clinic also has internal research awards 3-4/year to support projects, including for residents. Plenty of conference support and wonderful guidance from Scripps Clinic medical docs and sub specialists career-wise.

Would NOT recommend the research program through TSRI or STSI (I looked into TL1 program).
-TSRI/STSI has 2 research tracks for residents- TL1 (translational/bench research) and KL2 (clinical research).
-My co-residents who did this program were unhappy. They did not receive any mentorship through TSRI or STSI, and instead relied on research mentors at Scripps Clinic/Green or elsewhere.
-TL1/KL2 journal clubs and research talks are attended by research assistants/staff, not faculty. so you don't get much feedback
-I looked at the TL1 program, found the TL1 director arrogant/rude. The KL2 supervisor was nice, led most of the day for research track folks, and also works with the residents at Green.
-TSRI doesn't support trainees with a research coordinator- many trainees end up doing study enrollment themselves
-TSRI got rid of trainee grants for TL1/KL2s
-TSRI courses are geared towards basic scientists - there is only 1 class on clinical investigation.

Bottom line - Scripps medicine residency is GREAT and prepares you well. There are plenty of great research opps at this residency (Clinic/Green) that have shaped my training and pursuit of fellowship. Just don't bother with TSRI.
 
ms22 said:
A plug for the Scripps Medicine internal residency program - it's fantastic. I just finished my 3rd year residency this year. Excellent clinical training, and preparation for medicine or medicine subspecialties. Their new program director is responsive and motivated. For research, there are great faculty at Scripps Clinic who can mentor you on projects. Scripps Clinic also has internal research awards 3-4/year to support projects, including for residents. Plenty of conference support and wonderful guidance from Scripps Clinic medical docs and sub specialists career-wise.

Would NOT recommend the research program through TSRI or STSI (I looked into TL1 program).
-TSRI/STSI has 2 research tracks for residents- TL1 (translational/bench research) and KL2 (clinical research).
-My co-residents who did this program were unhappy. They did not receive any mentorship through TSRI or STSI, and instead relied on research mentors at Scripps Clinic/Green or elsewhere.
-TL1/KL2 journal clubs and research talks are attended by research assistants/staff, not faculty. so you don't get much feedback
-I looked at the TL1 program, found the TL1 director arrogant/rude. The KL2 supervisor was nice, led most of the day for research track folks, and also works with the residents at Green.
-TSRI doesn't support trainees with a research coordinator- many trainees end up doing study enrollment themselves
-TSRI got rid of trainee grants for TL1/KL2s
-TSRI courses are geared towards basic scientists - there is only 1 class on clinical investigation.

Bottom line - Scripps medicine residency is GREAT and prepares you well. There are plenty of great research opps at this residency (Clinic/Green) that have shaped my training and pursuit of fellowship. Just don't bother with TSRI.
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Excited for my interview their! Thanks for the comprehensive review
 
Does anyone have any thoughts/Information about Ocala Regional Program?
 
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Hello, any insight on Michigan State University Program? Their website seems to be limited in terms of information.

Thank you
 
Anyone has any information/know someone at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai (Bronx)/VAMC? I am unable to locate their website. Thank you!
 
gorbage said:
Hey all, I'd really appreciate some help if you can provide it. Completely overwhelmed by all of these big hospital systems and ?university-affiliate hospitals. For context, I'm a US-IMG from a western European university; I'm particularly interested in haem-onc.

I have a handful of interview offers at solid university programs (ex: UW, GWU), a handful of university-community programs I'm familiar with (ex: Mount Auburn, Pennsy), as well as some straight-up community programs.

Some of my offers, however, are totally confusing to me, and I'm not sure what they are or what their broader reputation is. Any advice, re:
  • Einstein Philly
  • Hofsra Staten Island
  • Hofsra Lenox Hill
  • Montefiore Wakefield
  • Maricopa Medical Centre in Phoenix
  • MedStar Washington (nb: I am already interviewing at Georgetown's main university hospital)
If you're familiar with the NYC programs, could you compare them to Mount Sinai SLR? That's kind of my baseline NY program, at the moment. My goal is to cut programs without making my rank list too top heavy for an IMG.

Thank you for your help in advance!
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I am currently got trained at MS SLR IM residency and went to some programs you mentioned on the list.

If you are interested in Hem/onc, MS SLR has the advantage of rotating st MSKCC that will give you unparalleled exposure to the most cutting-edge therapy and research than other community programs. However, the fellowship match is overall slightly weaker than the solid high-mid tier university programs (unless you have very strong research background at baseline)

Einstein Philly: from my impression they have similar or maybe slightly better fellowship placement than MSSLR. You can check it on their website

Hofsra Staten Island: not as good as MS SLR

Hofsra Lenox Hill: Not familiar with this program. All I know is that they have in-house hem/onc and in great location

Montefiore Wakefield: not as good as MS SLR

Maricopa Medical Centre in Phoenix: have not heard of this program......Checked their website and I do not think it is as good as MS SLR

MedStar Washington: Not familiar with this program.

Lots of programs share their fellowship placement in their website. But also be careful that they did not include their residents' baseline research background. Some of the residents did a couple of years research with great publications before applying for residency
 
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Hi, anybody has info about Mt Sinai Chicago , IM?
how strong is the program?

any input will be appreciated
Thanks a lot.
 
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Hi guys I'm torn between Loyola (Chicago) vs USF (Florida), I intereviewed at both places and loved them both.
Can someone comment on these two places? Please disregard weather as a factor (Canadian, went to AZ so I've been to both extremes)
 
Does anybody have any idea about the quality of training at UT-Memphis or of any red flags?

It's not really considered prestigious by any means, but I really liked the interview day and got a great vibe from everyone. It looks like they do well in the fellowship match, both internal and external. There also seems to be a solid amount of research going on. I feel like I could be a good fit there.

I have some other "more prestigious" places I am interviewing, but I feel pretty good about UT-Memphis.

Any thoughts?
 
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Hi all, just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on Scripps Mercy Internal Medicine program. I'm undecided whether I'll end up doing heme onc/pulm crit fellowship vs. hospitalist, but want to keep my options open. Interviewed at Mercy, Green, and a handful of other community + university programs in SoCal. Residents at Mercy seem to be pretty happy and they seem to have a pretty decent match list, but overall haven't seen much about Mercy on SDN. Thoughts??
 
Hi,

Was wondering on reviews on MCW, UIC, SLU, and Indiana. How do you guys think these programs compare? Good camaraderie and good cities to live in?
 
Anyone have any word on Loma Linda's IM residency program? Specifically how does their religious background affect work environment.
 
Harvey Harvardson said:
Anyone have any word on Loma Linda's IM residency program? Specifically how does their religious background affect work environment.
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Unless you're prescribing meat or abortion, it doesn't really influence your work on a daily basis.

I have privileges at an Adventist hospital and, while there are a lot of issues with the place, many of the non-clinical staff and allied health folks there are SDA and consider their job a calling. Which typically translates to the woman cleaning the floors in the lobby, or the guy delivering meal trays being really committed to their jobs.
 
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How bad is the scut at Montefiore main campus? Enjoyed interview day but a bit apprehensive at how much residents emphasized how hard they work. I'm afraid that might code for extraneous scutwork that is not educational in the least.
 
TaroBubbleTea said:
How bad is the scut at Montefiore main campus? Enjoyed interview day but a bit apprehensive at how much residents emphasized how hard they work. I'm afraid that might code for extraneous scutwork that is not educational in the least.
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Former monte resident now oncology fellow. Hard work at Monte isn’t code for scut. It’s the same type of hard work I see at my current hem/onc program which has a very reputable academic IM program. The only difference I see is how each program structures the schedule.

At Monte we did blood draws only in an emergency, never transported patients unless they were icu/ccu on a cardiac monitor, and there is an appointment scheduler so that there isn’t a lot of time spent scheduling 15 appts for your super sick patient being dc’d to snf. Happy to answer further questions via PM
 
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Dear all:
Greetings! I am interviewing for a categorical internal medicine residency position at the Jacobi Medical Center in Bronx this week. I will really appreciate it if anyone can give feedback on the interview experience at the program. Would like to know if they are known to ask any medical questions which I have heard that a lot of programs in NYC ask? Any input will be very valuable. Thanks in advance and best of luck for everything each of you is up to!
 
Hi does anyone have input Hofstra Lenox Hill or Houston Methodist? Both community programs but they seemed rather strong. Had all the in house fellowships and track record of taking their own residents. Also both in very good locations.

I'm comparing those two programs with an academic program (Medical College of Wisconsin), which albeit a stronger program, not as great of a location and I don't know if it really puts me at that much of an advantage over those two.
 
@Crayola227 @gutonc I guess the reason for me choosing Houston over Milwaukee is because (A) bigger metropolitan area for similar cost of living and (B) significantly better weather

But in any chance, for fellowship changes, do you believe MCW is a better option than those two community programs (Lenox Hill and Houston Methodist)?
 
Any information on Cleveland clinic Fairview hospital? It seems to be a program where you can do electives at main Cleveland clinic campus, but can't seem to get much info on it otherwise

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Can anyone comment on St Mary long beach IM program? I had my interview there, but only one resident showed up to give us the tour, no other resident interaction. Not sure how to judge this.
 
So I've been researching online into Providence St. Vincent vs Legacy Emanuel in Portland. It seems at one point Legacy was regarded higher than St Vincent, and now St. Vincent is higher? Both posts I was able to find comparing them are a bit outdated though. Can anyone shed some light on this?
 
Happyfeet1234567890 said:
So I've been researching online into Providence St. Vincent vs Legacy Emanuel in Portland. It seems at one point Legacy was regarded higher than St Vincent, and now St. Vincent is higher? Both posts I was able to find comparing them are a bit outdated though. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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I work closely with the residents at Legacy and distantly with the ones at St V's. I'd choose Legacy in a heartbeat.

This is doubly true if you're interested in hospitalist medicine, underserved primary care, PCCM, ID and maybe hem/onc. The rest are kind of a toss up.
 
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gutonc said:
I work closely with the residents at Legacy and distantly with the ones at St V's. I'd choose Legacy in a heartbeat.

This is doubly true if you're interested in hospitalist medicine, underserved primary care, PCCM, ID and maybe hem/onc. The rest are kind of a toss up.
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Could you speak more to PCCM. Both programs seemed to have impressive critical care training/PCCM fellowship placements. What puts Legacy over St. Vincent?
 
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Any thoughts on SUNY downstate? I had a mixed feeling on my interview day.
 
sherry1006 said:
Can anyone comment on St Mary long beach IM program? I had my interview there, but only one resident showed up to give us the tour, no other resident interaction. Not sure how to judge this.
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Don’t go there unless you have to. I didn’t rank them. It’s a means to an end for IMGs mostly or for people who favor being in California more than their career itself.
 
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Anyone know if MUSC has a minimum cut off when taking applicants for IM residency? My long term boyfriend interviewed there and is probably ranking them #1. He made in the upper 230s on step 1 and 240s on step 2.

I am still a 3rd year so I won't be applying until this summer, but I made a 218 on Step 1 and I want to do IM. He is pretty dead set on MUSC despite the fact that I am pretty sure I am not competitive for their program and want to stay closer to home. Does anyone know about the program selection and if they would consider me, even with me being quite average and have a lower than average step 1 score?

I heard that they have a filter for USMLE scores.
 
Most university IM programs have cutoffs. Its probably at least around 230+ for their cutoff. If you have connection there that may help. Just do your best and try to kill step 2. Also if you’re from an upper tier MD school that may give you points too.

Personally, I was above average in all scores, but went to a lower tier MD school. MUSC didn’t interview me. You may be able to email them next year when you’re applying and tell them your husband goes there (boyfriend may not slide).

RaginMD said:
Anyone know if MUSC has a minimum cut off when taking applicants for IM residency? My long term boyfriend interviewed there and is probably ranking them #1. He made in the upper 230s on step 1 and 240s on step 2.

I am still a 3rd year so I won't be applying until this summer, but I made a 218 on Step 1 and I want to do IM. He is pretty dead set on MUSC despite the fact that I am pretty sure I am not competitive for their program and want to stay closer to home. Does anyone know about the program selection and if they would consider me, even with me being quite average and have a lower than average step 1 score?

I heard that they have a filter for USMLE scores.
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Hi all, DO student here and planning my Sub-Is and want to maximize where I rotate to better choose a right fit when I apply and (hopefully!) make my match list next year. I am from New York and my fiance's family is also here, and we were hoping to stay if possible. I was wondering if anyone had information regarding the residency program at Southampton - would be VERY close to my fiance's parents. But I can't find too much information on their website or on this forum. The reason I am concerned is that one of my classmates (well, the year above me) knew someone that did residency there but they said the volume was low and the training wasn't great, so my classmate didn't even apply there. Again this was 2nd hand knowledge so I don't trust it, so I'm asking if anyone has real information about the program or get me in touch with someone who does. It's a Stony Brook program so I hope it has some credibility when looking for jobs or fellowship. Thanks!!
 
AngelBeavers said:
Hi all, DO student here and planning my Sub-Is and want to maximize where I rotate to better choose a right fit when I apply and (hopefully!) make my match list next year. I am from New York and my fiance's family is also here, and we were hoping to stay if possible. I was wondering if anyone had information regarding the residency program at Southampton - would be VERY close to my fiance's parents. But I can't find too much information on their website or on this forum. The reason I am concerned is that one of my classmates (well, the year above me) knew someone that did residency there but they said the volume was low and the training wasn't great, so my classmate didn't even apply there. Again this was 2nd hand knowledge so I don't trust it, so I'm asking if anyone has real information about the program or get me in touch with someone who does. It's a Stony Brook program so I hope it has some credibility when looking for jobs or fellowship. Thanks!!
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I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If you're asking if the volume and acuity are low, then the answer is yes. Any serious issues will get transferred to SBUH. I can't speak to the training, but it is a small community hospital that will likely not have you seeing as much as you would if you trained at a larger hospital. I'm sure the job market for grads is just fine; however, this will be market as well as specialty-dependent. Fellowship? Depends which one. ID/nephro/geriatrics, sure, no problem. GI/cards/heme/pccm? might pose more of an issue.
 
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Anyone know the chances of a non-US IMG matching into IM without USCE with Step 1 245? I feel like my score is okay but the USCE part will probably be the one dragging me down but I'm a final year and will have to work soon so doing any USCE after will not be possible for me.
 
Anyone have any tips on how to succeed at Kaiser LA? Would like to know what I'm getting myself into haha. Interested in cards fellowship. Excited to start this June/July!
 
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