2009-2010 Case Western Reserve University Application Thread

[Anranius]

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For those who are waiting to hear from CCLCM this week, I saw Dean Franco today, and she said that she will hopefully be making the calls tomorrow. But it's not definite. Good luck, you guys. If you get a call from the 216 area code, pick it up!

Ahhhh what time? :O

 

[CCLCMer]

haha perfect timing cclcmer 🙂

Great minds think alike. 🙂

Ahhhh what time? :O

I can't give you any specifics, because Dean Franco doesn't have a certain time when she will definitely start calling. It depends on her schedule. But it will probably be in the evening either tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully tomorrow.

 

[Anranius]

Well good luck tomorrow everyone!

 

[Anranius]

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[vc7777]

Charge those batteries! Good luck CCLCM applicants! See you on the flip side!

 

[vc7777]

Boy everybody must be waiting by the phone...this place is DEAD! Good luck everybody! I want more classmates at CCLCM...
[youtube="a4WQfkRhb30"]all by myself[/youtube]​

 

[CCLCMer]

Boy everybody must be waiting by the phone...this place is DEAD! Good luck everybody! I want more classmates at CCLCM...​

vc7777, every time you bump this thread, you are going to give someone a heart attack. Stop doing that!

Unfortunately, I don't have any updates about whether calls will be made tonight or tomorrow. If it's tonight, it would most likely be after 5 PM EST. Today is an interview day, plus the admissions office is starting to plan for the second look weekend, so they've got a lot going on.​

 

[zayka]

vc, so my future cardiosurg bills can be cc'ed to you?

 

[JTJ]

I just got off the phone with Dr. Franco! Accepted off the high hold list!

 

[ballin]

hmm did anyone else receive hear anything?? how long does it take for dr. franco to get around to calling everyone?

 

[ballin]

I'm just sitting next to my phone waiting for a 216 area code...ahh!

 

[austen123]

I'm just sitting next to my phone waiting for a 216 area code...ahh!

It's been a while, so maybe it's not our lucky day.

 

[FluffyRabbit]

I just got off the phone with Dr. Franco! Accepted off the high hold list!

Congratulations! 👍

I'm just sitting next to my phone waiting for a 216 area code...ahh!

I'm doing exactly the same thing! It's already been half an hour.. 🙁

 

[ballin]

I think I'll stop being so optimistic once it hits 6:30 or 7.

shouldn't there be more representation on sdn???

 

[ballin]

hi cclcmer, do you know if all calls are going out tonight..or they are being distributed over two days? thx!

 

[CCLCMer]

I just got off the phone with Dr. Franco! Accepted off the high hold list!

Congrats! 😀

Hope to see you at the second look.

hmm did anyone else receive hear anything?? how long does it take for dr. franco to get around to calling everyone?

Maybe about half an hour or so.

I think I'll stop being so optimistic once it hits 6:30 or 7.

shouldn't there be more representation on sdn???

Not necessarily. Only around 10 people would have gotten calls tonight, and they probably don't all read SDN. Even of the ones who do, they won't all be members. Even of the ones who are members, they may not want to post and out themselves. I think one or two people posting acceptances is about right, and that's how many posted last time, too.

 

[ballin]

thanks for the reply cclcmer

Congrats! 😀

Hope to see you at the second look.


Maybe about half an hour or so.


Not necessarily. Only around 10 people would have gotten calls tonight, and they probably don't all read SDN. Even of the ones who do, they won't all be members. Even of the ones who are members, they may not want to post and out themselves. I think one or two people posting acceptances is about right, and that's how many posted last time, too.

 

[Anranius]

I just got off the phone with Dr. Franco! Accepted off the high hold list!

Congrats mate!

No love for me....

 

[CCLCMer]

hi cclcmer, do you know if all calls are going out tonight..or they are being distributed over two days? thx!

Sorry, I missed this question. All of the calls are made at once, not over two days. She doesn't stay on very long with each person, just for a few minutes. Plus, some people don't pick up and she leaves a message.

 

[ballin]

if we don't get a call today, does that mean we should expect to get a hold letter sometime soon? :/

 

[CCLCMer]

if we don't get a call today, does that mean we should expect to get a hold letter sometime soon? :/

I don't know. But that seems like it would make sense since all the earlier interviewees got them.

 

[JTJ]

Thanks everyone! I can't believe this is real--it's my number one choice. My wife and I are ecstatic. We can't wait to get going in Cleveland. I hope some of you are lucky enough to get the call next month!

FYI: Interviewed late October.

 

[vc7777]

😍😍😍👍👍👍🙂
See you At Second Look!!!

Congrats!

 

[Myuu]

Thanks everyone! I can't believe this is real--it's my number one choice. My wife and I are ecstatic. We can't wait to get going in Cleveland. I hope some of you are lucky enough to get the call next month!

FYI: Interviewed late October.

😍😍😍👍👍👍🙂
See you At Second Look!!!

Congrats!

See you at my eggplant potluck?

 

[CCLCMer]

See you at my eggplant potluck?

AKA the Caseplant Potluck. 😀

 

[Myuu]

AKA the Caseplant Potluck. 😀

Of course.🙂

 

[vc7777]

I guess I'll bring the EtOH...since CCLCMer is a minor....

 

[IHeartSleep]

I just remembered that I had to post this:

I don't remember if it was you who said this, vc7777, but the coffee at Case in the morning did suck. :\

(Although I was majorly impressed by CCLCM's non-traditional continental breakfast...)

I hope that comment doesn't affect my chances of admission to Case, hah!

 

[CCLCMer]

I just remembered that I had to post this:

I don't remember if it was you who said this, vc7777, but the coffee at Case in the morning did suck. :\

(Although I was majorly impressed by CCLCM's non-traditional continental breakfast...)

I hope that comment doesn't affect my chances of admission to Case, hah!

Haha, what did they have at the CCLCM breakfast?

 

[IHeartSleep]

Haha, what did they have at the CCLCM breakfast?

Coffee (not in the room...it was outside but they told us to get some if we wanted it), water, yogurt-with-granola type thing that I really liked...I think there was fruit too. (Basically, I was impressed that the school served breakfast [as most don't] and they deviated from the usual bagels, coffee and OJ approach)

Case had coffee, tea, water, pastries and bagels, as I remember.

 

[vc7777]

I just remembered that I had to post this:

I don't remember if it was you who said this, vc7777, but the coffee at Case in the morning did suck. :\

(Although I was majorly impressed by CCLCM's non-traditional continental breakfast...)

I hope that comment doesn't affect my chances of admission to Case, hah!

Hahaha!

 

[Myuu]

I just remembered that I had to post this:

I don't remember if it was you who said this, vc7777, but the coffee at Case in the morning did suck. :\

(Although I was majorly impressed by CCLCM's non-traditional continental breakfast...)

I hope that comment doesn't affect my chances of admission to Case, hah!

I live for those pastries and bagels.

 

[Meat]

Do you current Case students feel like the prosections and limited anatomy time (One day a week?) are effective enough learning tools? Are prosections commonly thought of as a lesser learning device than dissection, or just a time saver?

Also, could someone expand on the Masters in Anatomy offered? The Case SOM website only had a paragraph or so on it. If I decide to apply for the masters, can I do so during Fall 2010?

 

[JTJ]

See you at my eggplant potluck?

Sounds fun to me!

 

[CCLCMer]

Do you current Case students feel like the prosections and limited anatomy time (One day a week?) are effective enough learning tools? Are prosections commonly thought of as a lesser learning device than dissection, or just a time saver?

Since I've obviously not gone through the UP anatomy program, I'm just speaking for CCLCM here.

I think the whole prosection versus dissection debate is largely a matter of personal preference. There are some people who swear that not dissecting on their own means they are not getting the real med school experience. But I felt the other way around: I wanted to learn anatomy, but I didn't want to spend hours peeling away fat and fascia, only to find out that I'd accidentally cut whatever nerve I was supposed to be looking for.

I'll go even further and say that I came to med school expecting to dislike anatomy, because I'm the liberal arts type, not the plug and chug type. But I ended up really loving it. Our cadavers are not preserved, and the sessions are taught by surgery residents, so what we learned was highly clinically relevant. I also liked the fact that we don't stop learning anatomy after one block in first year. We keep taking anatomy not only during our entire first year, but also in second year and even a couple of sessions at the beginning of third year. Multiple repetitions of the same material can only help you remember it, IMO.

Finally, it's still possible to dissect at CCLCM if you really want to once you're an upperclassman. I've never done it, but some of my classmates have, especially the ones who are going into surgery. There is even an opportunity to do dissections and teach anatomy to PA students over the summer. One of the students in the class behind me did that, and he thought it was a really great experience. He's going to do it again this summer.

Also, could someone expand on the Masters in Anatomy offered? The Case SOM website only had a paragraph or so on it. If I decide to apply for the masters, can I do so during Fall 2010?

Sorry, I don't know the specifics about the anatomy MS degree requirements. But in general, the grad school requirements are that you must apply to become degree-seeking no later than after you have taken two classes (six hours). If you don't apply for degree-seeking status at that time, you will have trouble getting grad credit for all of your classes taken as a non-degree-seeking student. But there's no restriction on how early you can apply for degree-seeking status. So yes, if you start school in July 2010, you would be able to apply to the grad school that fall. For my MS (clinical research), it was as simple as filling out a form. No GRE or LORs or anything else like that was required.

 

[Myuu]

Sorry, I don't know the specifics about the anatomy MS degree requirements. But in general, the grad school requirements are that you must apply to become degree-seeking no later than after you have taken two classes (six hours). If you don't apply for degree-seeking status at that time, you will have trouble getting grad credit for all of your classes taken as a non-degree-seeking student. But there's no restriction on how early you can apply for degree-seeking status. So yes, if you start school in July 2010, you would be able to apply to the grad school that fall. For my MS (clinical research), it was as simple as filling out a form. No GRE or LORs or anything else like that was required.

Nah, doesn't work that way for us. Just become official before you graduate the MD program. Otherwise, you have to pay for it. You can declare any time, but you pretty much have to (really, really should) start your first year by taking histology in the fall, and gross/embryo/seminar in the spring. You'd take neuro in the fall of the following year and then seminar after that. The grad program is on the same schedule as the rest of the university, so you've got time to decide if you really want to before starting the sequence (you can take individual classes without penalty/obligation so long as you don't withdraw after the drop date and expect it to magically disappear from your transcript).

Essentially, it's a 2 year program that fits right on top of your science years. No extra time required! That being said, it is a ton (and I mean a ton) of extra work on top of the MD program, particularly as gross and block 4 (the two hardest aspects of either degree program) collide. I'm told that after that, it's a lot easier, though.👍

(I'm an MD/MS anatomy candidate, so if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.)

 

[Myuu]

(And I'll address your MD anatomy question after I get back--we do things quite a bit differently on the UP side...)

 

[hitsugaaya]

finally had my interview. It d be aweosme to get into cclcm.
Does anyone know when the final meeting deciding acceptances is going to be?
I want to know how long im gonna be waiting, lol

 

[iceman77_7]

Do you current Case students feel like the prosections and limited anatomy time (One day a week?) are effective enough learning tools? Are prosections commonly thought of as a lesser learning device than dissection, or just a time saver?

Just to clarify, about 2/3 of anatomy is dissection, 1/3 is prosection. We dissect in blocks 3-5, which covers the abdomen, thorax and musculoskeletal. Repro and head/neck during blocks 2 and 6 respectively are prosections. Prior to medical school I had already taken gross anatomy so I have a decent idea of what dissecting the repro and head/neck area is like. That said, while there is much to be learned by dissecting the repro system and head/neck, prosection is sufficient for the purposes of the curriculum. The pelvis/perineum is extremely difficult to dissect in my experience and I don't feel like the yield is nearly as high as on the other sections that we do dissect.

So to answer your questions, the way anatomy is structured is an effective learning tool and prosections are a definite time and headache saver.

 

[Meat]

Just to clarify, about 2/3 of anatomy is dissection, 1/3 is prosection. We dissect in blocks 3-5, which covers the abdomen, thorax and musculoskeletal. Repro and head/neck during blocks 2 and 6 respectively are prosections. Prior to medical school I had already taken gross anatomy so I have a decent idea of what dissecting the repro and head/neck area is like. That said, while there is much to be learned by dissecting the repro system and head/neck, prosection is sufficient for the purposes of the curriculum. The pelvis/perineum is extremely difficult to dissect in my experience and I don't feel like the yield is nearly as high as on the other sections that we do dissect.

So to answer your questions, the way anatomy is structured is an effective learning tool and prosections are a definite time and headache saver.

Thank you Iceman, Myuu and CCLCMer for taking the time to answer my questions. While you may not be representative of the entire student base, it certainly speaks well for these programs that their students are willing to spend time to help an incoming MS1. I really appreciate all the time you guys put into keeping up with this thread, it certainly has been a valuable asset (in combination with http://wiki.case.edu/SOM/CodeBlue).

 

[Auriga]

Thank you Iceman, Myuu and CCLCMer for taking the time to answer my questions. While you may not be representative of the entire student base, it certainly speaks well for these programs that their students are willing to spend time to help an incoming MS1...

Actually, that's one of the things that impressed me the most about Case. I think the effort that the current students give out is indicative of the atmosphere of the student body. When I contacted [a ton of] students hoping to find someone to stay with, even though they were almost all out of town, they all got back to me with suggestions and words of encouragement. The students that helped as guides, for Q&A, even random students I talked with - the cooperative spirit was definitely more tangible than I felt at my other two interviews. The other schools were great, but Case was really special.

...Wow I didn't really mean for that to sound so cheesy haha

 

[Auriga]

I was a little confused w/ the posts as to the difference between CCLCM and UP in committee meetings....

How often and when do the UP committees meet to make decisions? Was it twice a month or once?

 

[gravitywave]

I was a little confused w/ the posts as to the difference between CCLCM and UP in committee meetings....

How often and when do the UP committees meet to make decisions? Was it twice a month or once?

my understanding from my interview day last month was that the next UP committee meeting would be today or tomorrow

 

[vc7777]

Good luck Everybody up for review today (UP)

Also:

Who's down for Second Look weekend at Case? Anybody still on the fence? Potluck?

I'll be there with bells on!

 

[shawshank1]

I was a little confused w/ the posts as to the difference between CCLCM and UP in committee meetings....

How often and when do the UP committees meet to make decisions? Was it twice a month or once?

On my interview day a couple weeks ago, they said that the UP committee meets every other week. They are meeting today and decisions will go out later this week.

 

[Anranius]

[CCLCM] Anyone know when the next admissions subcommittee meeting for CCLCM is set for? I remember the end of February mentioned...

 

[ruthallel]

Do any of the current students know what the chances are at this point for getting in off of the hold and high hold lists? For example, what percentage of interviewed applicants have received rejections, how many are on the lists, how many more will be accepted. Waiting is just so hard!!!😱😱

 

[psss]

Who's down for Second Look weekend at Case? Anybody still on the fence? Potluck?

I'll be there with bells on!

I'll be there vc7777! I'm also non-trad, so I look forward to meeting you!

 

[47ind]

CCLCM's next subcommittee meeting is the 1st week of march i believe.

Also- since they initially only accept exactly 32 students.. i think if your on high hold you still have a good shot at it...not sure about hold. (total accepted ends up usually being around 50)

 

[vc7777]

I'll be there vc7777! I'm also non-trad, so I look forward to meeting you!

Sweet! Let me be the first ( stpuid search not working...I guess you posted two other times?) to congratulate you on your acceptance to CCLCM too! With a 3J, you must be one good essayist 🙂