2009-2010 Stanford Application Thread

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pelliper said:
nope...are there supposed to be? i dont recall stanford having a standardized calling schedule
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i was under the impression that calls had been coming on thursdays or fridays but i could be completely wrong.
 
TheFreak said:
i was under the impression that calls had been coming on thursdays or fridays but i could be completely wrong.
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when'd you interview? i think someone who interviewed 2/19 heard back 2 weeks ago so i was expecting another week or so before a decision
 
yeah that's probably reasonable too. i think he actually heard back last week. i actually have no idea when i expect to hear back - i interviewed at the beginning of march. i know someone who interviewed the week before i did who already heard back though.
 
TheFreak said:
i was under the impression that calls had been coming on thursdays or fridays but i could be completely wrong.
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Yeah, as far as I've seen, all calls have gone out Thursday night or on Friday
 
I was waitlisted here, but I really fell in love with the school that day and it was tied with two others for my top choice. I got into the other two, but still really want to give this school a second look.

Would asking where I am on the waitlist / (and if i'm near the top, asking for a second look be too forward)?
 
Luveroni said:
I was waitlisted here, but I really fell in love with the school that day and it was tied with two others for my top choice. I got into the other two, but still really want to give this school a second look.

Would asking where I am on the waitlist / (and if i'm near the top, asking for a second look be too forward)?
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I doubt they will give you an answer. That being said, focus on choosing the favorite of the two you got into and if you are certain Stanford is your top choice, then just be prepared to move. I don't think they will let you go on second look as a waitlist candidate, but I have no idea...
 
Luveroni said:
I was waitlisted here, but I really fell in love with the school that day and it was tied with two others for my top choice. I got into the other two, but still really want to give this school a second look.

Would asking where I am on the waitlist / (and if i'm near the top, asking for a second look be too forward)?
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Yeah I know what you mean, it seemed like Harvard could care less about its interviewees whereas Stanford was supportive the entire day. Their actions really spoke volumes about their respective programs.
 
hey so...(at the risk of being annoying)... anyone hear back this week yet?
 
nope - I interviewed at the very beginning of march and haven't heard anything. so nervewracking.
 
TheFreak said:
haha yeah same here. ive been just freaking out.
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haha your sn suggests as much. lol
I hope it doesn't mean we're waitlisted/rejected, although it seems like most acceptances come 2 weeks after the interview on the thursday/friday. maybe the match was a huge deal yesterday and they didn't hold deliberations? :xf:
 
Does Stanford actually have an official MD/MBA program? I don't see it on the website as an official program, but it does have the phrase "Students may venture to other Stanford schools to obtain an MBA or a JD."

I have this feeling I'm going to have to apply separately and be judged based on my business experience rather than just sneaking my way in via the MD joint degree route 🙁
 
huybeme said:
haha your sn suggests as much. lol
I hope it doesn't mean we're waitlisted/rejected, although it seems like most acceptances come 2 weeks after the interview on the thursday/friday. maybe the match was a huge deal yesterday and they didn't hold deliberations? :xf:
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haha yeah i like that theory as long as no one posts and bursts our bubble. :xf: here too.
 
wolfiemd said:
Does Stanford actually have an official MD/MBA program? I don't see it on the website as an official program, but it does have the phrase "Students may venture to other Stanford schools to obtain an MBA or a JD."

I have this feeling I'm going to have to apply separately and be judged based on my business experience rather than just sneaking my way in via the MD joint degree route 🙁
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If you interviewed at Stanford, you'd get the sense that anything is possible. I think Greg Vaughn said something like 10% of Stanford students pursue their MPHs at Berkeley, Davis, UCLA, Harvard and other great schools. Now if they have that much success getting their students into other schools' programs, just think how lenient they must be when it comes to their own MBA program.

Stanford seems like a place where degree customization is welcomed, and somewhat expected. I asked if I could pursue a master's in computer engineering and they seemed open to the idea : )
 
TheFreak said:
haha yeah i like that theory as long as no one posts and bursts our bubble. :xf: here too.
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yea..every time i see this thread at the top again im scared to death of opening it and seeing a post that says "JUST GOT THE CALL, INTERVIEWED FIRST WEEK OF MARCH" 🙁
 
pelliper said:
yea..every time i see this thread at the top again im scared to death of opening it and seeing a post that says "JUST GOT THE CALL, INTERVIEWED FIRST WEEK OF MARCH" 🙁
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not gonna lie, I've had this page on the entire day with the same mindset. aaagh i want stanford so badly...
 
ditto. i guess all we can do is just hold up hope and hopefully we wont get any letters next week.
 
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Naijaba said:
Wow, that's a late interview! I suggest looking up faculty that you'd like to work; it's always good to know in advance.
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Yeah, i have this feeling i'm interviewing for a waitlist position at best..lol maybe i should just answer every question with "i love stanford"...

"what's your name?"
"I love stanford"
 
wolfiemd said:
Yeah, i have this feeling i'm interviewing for a waitlist position at best..lol maybe i should just answer every question with "i love stanford"...

"what's your name?"
"I love stanford"
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meh - I'm interviewing the 23rd - I dont think they'd invite us just to interview for a waitlist spot.
 
oze said:
meh - I'm interviewing the 23rd - I dont think they'd invite us just to interview for a waitlist spot.
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Do you think they'll give us an answer before second look weekend? I heard its at the beginning of April.
 
wolfiemd said:
Do you think they'll give us an answer before second look weekend? I heard its at the beginning of April.
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You're not interviewing for a waitlist position. There were students last year who interviewed in April and still got accepted outright. So don't go in thinking that at all. If Stanford wants you, they'll let you in even after interviewing late.

Also, I'm thinking about MD/MBA programs and I heard of at least one student doing that at Stanford. There's some brief mention of it here:

http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/mba/academics/joint_dual_degrees.html

Stanford is pretty supportive of what you want to do...and you can actually take classes at the law school, business school, etc. anytime you want over your four years. (assuming you have time). I met a student getting a Masters degree in Epidemiology after his second year. There was actually another a student who was getting his Masters in English, and was writing a novel in his "5th year". You can literally do whatever you want there, their very supportive.
 
wolfiemd said:
Do you think they'll give us an answer before second look weekend? I heard its at the beginning of April.
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that would be cool but I'm not holding my breath. any in case, second look would be superfluous for me - I'd go to Stanford without a doubt if I got in.
 
oze said:
that would be cool but I'm not holding my breath. any in case, second look would be superfluous for me - I'd go to Stanford without a doubt if I got in.
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I read on this site that last year Stanford accepted 50 students from the wait list, and a year ago (2008) they accepted zero. Is there any way this can be verified? I know an M2 who was accepted from the wait list! The M2 informs me that generally 50% of the class at Stanford is generally accepted at the top 5. Stanford cannot martriculate more than 86 students. The admissions committee has to be conservative. The admission offer rate is between 130 and 160 students. Generally the acceptance rate is 33 pct to 40 pct. There are time it has gone as high as 60 to 75 pct. Thus the wait list is a direct function of the acceptance rate. Any comments or input!😕
 
oze said:
that would be cool but I'm not holding my breath. any in case, second look would be superfluous for me - I'd go to Stanford without a doubt if I got in.
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I read on this site that last year Stanford accepted 50 students from the wait list, and a year ago (2008) they accepted zero. Is there any way this can be verified? I know an M2 who was accepted from the wait list! The M2 informs me that generally 50% of the class at Stanford is generally accepted at the top 5. Stanford cannot martriculate more than 86 students. The admissions committee has to be conservative. The admission offer rate is between 130 and 160 students. Generally the acceptance rate is 33 pct to 40 pct. There are time it has gone as high as 60 to 75 pct. Thus the wait list is a direct function of the acceptance rate. Any comments or input!😕
 
doctorno said:
I read on this site that last year Stanford accepted 50 students from the wait list, and a year ago (2008) they accepted zero. Is there any way this can be verified? I know an M2 who was accepted from the wait list! The M2 informs me that generally 50% of the class at Stanford is generally accepted at the top 5. Stanford cannot martriculate more than 86 students. The admissions committee has to be conservative. The admission offer rate is between 130 and 160 students. Generally the acceptance rate is 33 pct to 40 pct. There are time it has gone as high as 60 to 75 pct. Thus the wait list is a direct function of the acceptance rate. Any comments or input!😕
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A current student told me that about the waitlist movement. Stanford doesn't release those statistics, so it's very hard to tell if it's accurate. According to US News generally, about 1 in 3 of IS interviewees are eventually accepted, and about 1 in 2.5 of OOS students are (including waitlist movement). Here are the figures from Fall 2008:

6567 applied, 473 interviewed, 172 were accepted, 86 enrolled (7% interviewed, 36% interviewees accepted, 50% matriculated)

2467 applied, 178 interviewed, 55 were accepted, 32 enrolled (7% interviewed, 31% accepted, 58% matriculated)
4100 applied, 295 interviewed, 117 were accepted, 54 enrolled (7% interviewed, 40% accepted, 46% matriculated)

Stanford has more difficult time enrolling OOS students, which is why are larger % are accepted (to keep geographical diversity in such a small class). In all, they accepted 2 students for every 1 spot in the class.
 
mdeast said:
A current student told me that about the waitlist movement. Stanford doesn't release those statistics, so it's very hard to tell if it's accurate. According to US News generally, about 1 in 3 of IS interviewees are eventually accepted, and about 1 in 2.5 of OOS students are (including waitlist movement). Here are the figures from Fall 2008:

6567 applied, 473 interviewed, 172 were accepted, 86 enrolled (7% interviewed, 36% interviewees accepted, 50% matriculated)

2467 applied, 178 interviewed, 55 were accepted, 32 enrolled (7% interviewed, 31% accepted, 58% matriculated)
4100 applied, 295 interviewed, 117 were accepted, 54 enrolled (7% interviewed, 40% accepted, 46% matriculated)

Stanford has more difficult time enrolling OOS students, which is why are larger % are accepted (to keep geographical diversity in such a small class). In all, they accepted 2 students for every 1 spot in the class.
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Stanford also needs to meet the following criteria:

Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in biological science 30.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in physical science 40.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in social sciences/humanities 6.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in other health professions 0.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in mixed disciplines, double majors, and other areas of study 24.%
Most of the schools have 60 % biological science majors 😍
 
wolfiemd said:
Do you think they'll give us an answer before second look weekend? I heard its at the beginning of April.
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I was told that it takes 3-4 weeks post-interview to reach a decision. And given that second look is April 9, likely not.
 
doctorno said:
Stanford also needs to meet the following criteria:

Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in biological science 30.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in physical science 40.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in social sciences/humanities 6.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in other health professions 0.0 % Percent of entering class with undergraduate major in mixed disciplines, double majors, and other areas of study 24.%
Most of the schools have 60 % biological science majors 😍
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Yeah, but I would bet that most of those 24% double-majors also majored in biology.
 
Question123 said:
No engineering? Maybe that's why I was waitlisted... 😛
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Haha, i think Stanford loves engineers. That'd probably go under Bio or Physical Sciences, depending on what type of engineering you're talking about.
 
mdeast said:
Haha, i think Stanford loves engineers. That'd probably go under Bio or Physical Sciences, depending on what type of engineering you're talking about.
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I think it might be "Other areas of study."
 
longshot - anyone in town for interviews wanna grab a beer? everyone I know around here is on spring break.
 
oze said:
longshot - anyone in town for interviews wanna grab a beer? everyone I know around here is on spring break.
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i would but im busy tonight. have fun - do you know where you're going to go?

on a different note, ill make my routine check - any news (wl or calls) lately?
 
mdeast said:
Haha, i think Stanford loves engineers. That'd probably go under Bio or Physical Sciences, depending on what type of engineering you're talking about.
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I wonder how many people go into each of the scholarly concentrations? If they try to make it even then they would have to seek out more BME and bioinformatics/software engineering-related majors, because I assume most applicants didn't study these fields. And whereas you can pickup laboratory skills and health/bioethics/community policy knowledge in medical school, it would be very difficult to learn engineering and bioinformatics programming without prior experience.
 
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Ha, despite my background, I was interested in the community health concentration... I really don't aim to go the engineering route w/ my MD... though it might've helped out more.
 
I was wondering if any current students might be able to comment on the quality of clinical education at Stanford. What's Stanford hospital like...how does it compare to other places you've worked as a pre-med, etc.? The one thing I didn't really get a good sense of from the interview day was really what the places where students dp most of their rotations are like. Energetic, crazy atmosphere, or kind of sleepy, subdued in comparison to urban hospitals? Professors really into teaching med students, or more concerned about residents?
 
TheFreak said:
i would but im busy tonight. have fun - do you know where you're going to go?

on a different note, ill make my routine check - any news (wl or calls) lately?
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in case anyone was curious it looks like the 2 week time table still stands. got myself some mail today.
 
Naijaba said:
Waitlist or...worse?
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waitlist (sorry that took so long- i only verified the envelopes contents just now since ive been gone). actually has anyone gotten a post-interview rejection yet? i hear that it happens but i still havent actually heard someone mention it.

are you guys emailing dr. garcia a letter of interest?
 
mdeast said:
Hey Naijaba...did you write your waitlist letter yet? I'm hoping to get it out by next week. Any idea what Dean Garcia's email address is?
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Not yet, I've been really busy with teaching. I'll finish it up next week as well. If you think Spring Break is great as a student, just wait until you've taught high school...it's paradise!
 
FutureDoc17 said:
What interests you? I think, financial aid and all else held equal, it would be reasonable for most to lean towards but HMS, but I can see Columbia getting the nod for two reasons in particular:

1. If you're interested in international development, what better school that Columbia to study under folks like Jeffrey Sachs and Joseph Stiglitz?

2. I hear Columbia P&S is the place to be for prospective neurosurgeons.

But in the end, you're golden wherever you choose. You were able to get this far - what's to stop you come residency time?
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Was this in the right forum? Are you comparing Stanford to Harvard and Columbia? If so, I think Stanford has the edge when it comes to research, except maybe Harvard HST. Stanford emphasizes research so much that many people say that they "push" you to academic medicine. Great for people like me, not so good for primary care docs.
 
Naijaba said:
Was this in the right forum? Are you comparing Stanford to Harvard and Columbia? If so, I think Stanford has the edge when it comes to research, except maybe Harvard HST. Stanford emphasizes research so much that many people say that they "push" you to academic medicine. Great for people like me, not so good for primary care docs.
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Yeah, wrong forum. Apologies.

But you're right. Everyone and their mom seems to be doing some sort of basic research at Stanford. Isn't it something like 80% of medical students opt to take a 5th year to conduct some sort of research or pursue something aside from the MD?
 
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