2011-2012 Case Western Reserve University Application Thread

[Myuu]

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Little Italy is walking distance to the school. Also, many students live in either The Triangle apartment complex (on Euclid and Mayfield) or Waldorf Apartments (forgot the street, but its at the top of a hill). Both are within walking distance

I would say most live in Little Italy or Cleveland Heights. There are a couple that opt for downtown every year, and a few that go further out.

 

[bucks2010]

There's a really nice part of shaker heights and an 11-bodies-in-the-attic part of shaker heights. Whereabouts are you thinking?



University Circle has some places around north campus near wade park. Most of the area is apartment/undergrad dorm though.

I don't see it listed anymore but I believe it was on the north end, towards Cleveland Heights.

What are the areas to avoid?

 

[phnerd1105]

There's a really nice part of shaker heights and an 11-bodies-in-the-attic part of shaker heights. Whereabouts are you thinking?
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Nice reference.... 👍

 

[Dartmouth2005]

I would say most live in Little Italy or Cleveland Heights. There are a couple that opt for downtown every year, and a few that go further out.

How easy is it to get a parking pass for parking around the medical school? And, how much does it cost?

 

[370096]

How easy is it to get a parking pass for parking around the medical school? And, how much does it cost?

ditto. great question.

 

[wholeheartedly]

There's a really nice part of shaker heights and an 11-bodies-in-the-attic part of shaker heights.

I'll second the use of that reference.

 

[Fopo]

See you there and best of luck! 🙂

Which one were you?! I had an amazing time while visiting Case, which was expected of course!

 

[dv8]

Which one were you?! I had an amazing time while visiting Case, which was expected of course!

I was like the LEAST memorable person there. The rest of the applicants were ridiculously interesting so it'd probably be easier for me to ID you 🙂. Case was amazing! The most friendly interviewers and admissions staff I've had so far.

 

[Iso4ane]

How easy is it to get a parking pass for parking around the medical school? And, how much does it cost?

The veale garage next to campus is like $85/month, and the lot across the bridge is $70/month.

Which one were you?! I had an amazing time while visiting Case, which was expected of course!

I was like the LEAST memorable person there. The rest of the applicants were ridiculously interesting so it'd probably be easier for me to ID you 🙂. Case was amazing! The most friendly interviewers and admissions staff I've had so far.

We are very awesome aren't we. We even have current students on SDN answering your questions, so thats a plus too, right?

 

[bucks2010]

anybody else getting strange malware warnings on Chrome when trying to visit the CaseMed site?

 

[FearlessHyena]

anybody else getting strange malware warnings on Chrome when trying to visit the CaseMed site?

yes.

 

[Numba1Plumma]

I interviewed at CCLCM in November and all the students interviewing seemed pretty gaga about the program. Similarly, many of the SDN profiles which people that commented on CCLCM talk about how they are just in love with the program, or its the perfect program for them and several people rate this program as a top choice.

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but the only reason why that school is my top choice is the tuition waiver. You can talk about how it's completely PBL, how it's related to Cleveland Clinic, and how Dean Franco is just the most superb person in the world, but when it comes down to it, how many of you would actually be head-over-tails for this program that involves an extra year of schooling if the tuition waiver wasn't present? I'm not trying to spread any hate or to be a troll, but I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free.

That's all I got to see, lets here what you all have to say, and I'm keeping an open mind regarding any alternative opinions.

Hope the cycle is going well for everyone, and in my opinion, this whole "applying to medical school" business is such as a crock of ****

- Real talk

 

[Myuu]

I interviewed at CCLCM in November and all the students interviewing seemed pretty gaga about the program. Similarly, many of the SDN profiles which people that commented on CCLCM talk about how they are just in love with the program, or its the perfect program for them and several people rate this program as a top choice.

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but the only reason why that school is my top choice is the tuition waiver. You can talk about how it's completely PBL, how it's related to Cleveland Clinic, and how Dean Franco is just the most superb person in the world, but when it comes down to it, how many of you would actually be head-over-tails for this program that involves an extra year of schooling if the tuition waiver wasn't present? I'm not trying to spread any hate or to be a troll, but I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free.

That's all I got to see, lets here what you all have to say, and I'm keeping an open mind regarding any alternative opinions.

Hope the cycle is going well for everyone, and in my opinion, this whole "applying to medical school" business is such as a crock of ****

- Real talk

Only tuition is free. Sadly, you still have to pay to eat and not freeze to death in the winter.

But in all honesty, if that's truly the only reason you applied, please withdraw your application so that people who actually want to come here have a better shot.

 

[lbzak]

Only tuition is free. Sadly, you still have to pay to eat and not freeze to death in the winter.

But in all honesty, if that's truly the only reason you applied, please withdraw your application so that people who actually want to come here have a better shot.

+ 1

Yeah, the tuition waiver is great, but there are so many other aspects of the program that I love even more. I want to do research, and taking that extra year to do it fits my interests perfectly. Additionally, CCLCM has amazing clinical locations. Cleveland Clinic is a given, but I'm also excited about Metro and Rainbow Babies.

So if CCLCM does not make you giddy inside, I would hope that you would help out people like me who want to go there for more than just the tuition waiver!! 😀

 

[okazaki86]

+ 1

Yeah, the tuition waiver is great, but there are so many other aspects of the program that I love even more. I want to do research, and taking that extra year to do it fits my interests perfectly. Additionally, CCLCM has amazing clinical locations. Cleveland Clinic is a given, but I'm also excited about Metro and Rainbow Babies.

So if CCLCM does not make you giddy inside, I would hope that you would help out people like me who want to go there for more than just the tuition waiver!! 😀

+2. When deciding between schools, I think it's important that the schools mission aligns with your personal career goals. That said, most people applying/interviewing at CCLCM have an interest to incorporate medicine and research, and be a leader in both areas, and I think that a program like CCLCM really encourages students to take this route.

But if you're looking to go to a medical school for free, hopefully you are a superstar and can obtain the full tuition scholarships that are available, and not have to "endure" a 5th year for research. But for people at CCLCM (and applicants like myself), I would LOVE the opportunity to perform research and really understand/perform clinical/translational research (I do a lot of basic-science research), incorporate it into medicine and my future career and ALSO obtain a quality education at the #4 best hospital in the nation along with great faculty/staff/peers who have similar career goals as you. If you don't do research/want to incorporate research during your medical school training/career, then maybe CCLCM isn't for you, and hopefully you can get great financial aid packages elsewhere.

Thats just my 2 cents tho, and I am just one person, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Dartmouth2005]

The veale garage next to campus is like $85/month, and the lot across the bridge is $70/month.






We are very awesome aren't we. We even have current students on SDN answering your questions, so thats a plus too, right?

Thx.

 

[Tron11]

I interviewed at Case in early October and thoroughly loved it. Unfortunately, I was put on hold after interview and am going crazy. I thought I'd give other schools a chance, but the farther into the app cycle we get, the more sure I am of case.

If anyone knows about Case and LOI's I'd really appreciate advice on the following:
Would it be absurd for me to send a letter of intent at this stage?
Should I wait a month or two, or will my letter carry more weight if I send it earlier?

 

[MelMelisqueen]

+2. When deciding between schools, I think it's important that the schools mission aligns with your personal career goals. That said, most people applying/interviewing at CCLCM have an interest to incorporate medicine and research, and be a leader in both areas, and I think that a program like CCLCM really encourages students to take this route.

But if you're looking to go to a medical school for free, hopefully you are a superstar and can obtain the full tuition scholarships that are available, and not have to "endure" a 5th year for research. But for people at CCLCM (and applicants like myself), I would LOVE the opportunity to perform research and really understand/perform clinical/translational research (I do a lot of basic-science research), incorporate it into medicine and my future career and ALSO obtain a quality education at the #4 best hospital in the nation along with great faculty/staff/peers who have similar career goals as you. If you don't do research/want to incorporate research during your medical school training/career, then maybe CCLCM isn't for you, and hopefully you can get great financial aid packages elsewhere.

Thats just my 2 cents tho, and I am just one person, so take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah and maybe if you do get in, you could try to use the CCLCM tuition waiver to get some help at a school that would be a better fit for you--there are only like 32 spots for those of us who reeeeealllly want to go there

 

[Flukes]

"""I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free."""

The tuition sweetens the deal, but even if CCLCM were 4 years tuition + 1 year HHMI (no tuition, $30K stipend), I'd argue that it'd still be as attractive as a top 10 medical school.

 

[Fopo]

I was like the LEAST memorable person there. The rest of the applicants were ridiculously interesting so it'd probably be easier for me to ID you 🙂. Case was amazing! The most friendly interviewers and admissions staff I've had so far.

I'm the guy from Idaho. I was the one there who was not from a school that makes people go "oooooooh, wow. You must be smart" :-D

 

[Myuu]

I'm the guy from Idaho. I was the one there who was not from a school that makes people go "oooooooh, wow. You must be smart" :-D

And there's nothing wrong with that!🙂

 

[Iso4ane]

I'm the guy from Idaho. I was the one there who was not from a school that makes people go "oooooooh, wow. You must be smart" :-D

Here during my interview, one of the other applicants was like "Isn't that a party school? I hear there a lot of hot women at your school." (And this was from a female applicant btw, her words not mine.) So the moral of the story is, just because other applicants don't think you are up to par, you still got a interview at Case, which means your at least on par with most of them.

 

[CCLCMer]

Even if we don't get accepted into CCLCM this round, will we still hear some sort of status update this month (hold, rejection, high-hold)?

Yes.

Are there any places like that in University Circle? I'm looking at a map right now, but I can't tell if those other areas are "everyday walking distance" to campus. Is that feasable? Or do most CaseMed student drive in?

Some of each. Besides Little Italy, parts of Cleveland Heights are within walking distance as well.

How easy is it to get a parking pass for parking around the medical school? And, how much does it cost?

The veale garage next to campus is like $85/month, and the lot across the bridge is $70/month.

It's free at CCF for medical students.

We are very awesome aren't we. We even have current students on SDN answering your questions, so thats a plus too, right?

How about current alums? 😎

I interviewed at CCLCM in November and all the students interviewing seemed pretty gaga about the program. Similarly, many of the SDN profiles which people that commented on CCLCM talk about how they are just in love with the program, or its the perfect program for them and several people rate this program as a top choice.

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but the only reason why that school is my top choice is the tuition waiver. You can talk about how it's completely PBL, how it's related to Cleveland Clinic, and how Dean Franco is just the most superb person in the world, but when it comes down to it, how many of you would actually be head-over-tails for this program that involves an extra year of schooling if the tuition waiver wasn't present? I'm not trying to spread any hate or to be a troll, but I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free.

That's all I got to see, lets here what you all have to say, and I'm keeping an open mind regarding any alternative opinions.

Hope the cycle is going well for everyone, and in my opinion, this whole "applying to medical school" business is such as a crock of ****

- Real talk

You are not alone, and I have to give you props for being honest about your motivations for wanting to be accepted to CCLCM. That being said, I really want to dissuade you from going to CCLCM for the scholarship, assuming you are accepted, and I'll tell you why.

CCLCM is not like other medical schools. That is good for some people, and horrible for others.

Who is it good for? People who want a clinician scientist career. People who like a small-town kind of environment like Cheers, where everyone knows your name. People who are ok with the ambiguity of not having the kind of black-and-white feedback that you get from tests and grades. People who are self-motivated enough to take charge of their own education. People who want to figure things out for themselves and have a kind of grad school experience while in med school, rather than being told what to learn each week. People who like working in groups, self-study, and lots of clinical experience.

Who is CCLCM not good for? People who want a pure clinical career, especially if you hate doing research. People who want to attend a large school with lots of anonymity, where they can skip class if they want. People who need to take tests and feel pressure to make the grade in order to perform their best. People who want to be given a packet at the beginning of each block and told to go home and memorize it rather than going through the frustration of trying to figure out what to learn. People who like to study on their own and don't want to deal with the hassles of group learning.

There is no question in my mind that a few people in my med school class would have been much happier going to other medical schools. I'm not saying that because they're not good people, or suggesting that they're not smart or aren't going to be great doctors. I'm just saying that CCLCM wasn't the right kind of environment for them, and they were miserable there. Numba, based on your posts, you fall into this group. If you come to CCLCM, you will hate it. Med school is painful enough sometimes even when you love your school, and five years is a long time to be miserable. Don't do that to yourself, and don't do that to your future classmates--it's a small enough class that one unhappy person affects the entire tone of the class. You've worked hard to make it this far. You should go somewhere that will give you the kind of education that meets your needs, even if it costs more.

You should also consider that by taking the extra year, you have a significant opportunity cost, whereby you will be working one less year as an attending in order to do that research year. All attendings in every specialty get paid six figure salaries, and the year of income that you forgo will be the year when you are the most senior (and presumably earning the most money) in your career. So in the long run, it's not even that good of a deal for you financially to make the sacrifice of spending an extra year in school in order to get the scholarship. That's going to be even more true if you wind up in a high-paying specialty.

I'm the guy from Idaho. I was the one there who was not from a school that makes people go "oooooooh, wow. You must be smart" :-D

I wasn't from one of those name-brand schools either. Didn't hurt me any, and doesn't seem to be hurting you any, either. 🙂

 

[FearlessHyena]

Interview Invite today at 7:00 PM! I was complete on 12/06/2011. This is a top choice. There were only two dates left in February. So, hopefully I'm not just interviewing for a waitlist spot.

 

[FearlessHyena]

And there's nothing wrong with that!🙂

I only applied here because of you!

 

[Kickback]

For the CCLCM-ers, I have a question as an engineer. How easy is it to pursue biomedical engineering as the focus of the MS + research? I really don't want to waste all the ridiculous effort I'm putting into my classes training me as an engineer, and I actually enjoy the engineering side as of things well. Case has a super awesome BME program, and I'd like to take advantage of it, assuming I even get in.

And with that question out of the way, I shall continue studying for my heat transfer final

 

[FluffyRabbit]

I interviewed at CCLCM in November and all the students interviewing seemed pretty gaga about the program. Similarly, many of the SDN profiles which people that commented on CCLCM talk about how they are just in love with the program, or its the perfect program for them and several people rate this program as a top choice.

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but the only reason why that school is my top choice is the tuition waiver. You can talk about how it's completely PBL, how it's related to Cleveland Clinic, and how Dean Franco is just the most superb person in the world, but when it comes down to it, how many of you would actually be head-over-tails for this program that involves an extra year of schooling if the tuition waiver wasn't present? I'm not trying to spread any hate or to be a troll, but I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free.

That's all I got to see, lets here what you all have to say, and I'm keeping an open mind regarding any alternative opinions.

Hope the cycle is going well for everyone, and in my opinion, this whole "applying to medical school" business is such as a crock of ****

- Real talk

There are so many issues with this I'm not sure where to begin.

1. If it's all about the Benjamins, don't come here. The extra year of earnings from attending a 4-year school will probably make up for the tuition just fine.
2. The point of the program is for people who enjoy research and want to do it, and there is a lot of it in the curriculum. If research isn't something you're interested in, you'll be very miserable here.
3. Also note that many students from research-oriented schools do in fact take a year off to do research (because they like it), so I really don't see it as something negative.
4. The school does have a unique learning style. If it doesn't sound like something you care for, not only will you not learn the material as well, writing portfolios and receiving evaluations will make you even more miserable.
5. If you come here for the money despite knowing the school is not a good fit, not only will you be miserable, but because the class is so small and your classmates will have to work closely with you, you'll make them less happy too.

To be honest, it sounds like you don't care for the experience of medical school, and really just want to become a doctor and make mucho dinero ASAP. To this end, you've played the premed game like a pro and are probably doing pretty well in your application process.

But I do hope you attend another school, not only because they'll serve your goals better, but also because you'll not enjoy being here and we will not enjoy having you here.

 

[FluffyRabbit]

For the CCLCM-ers, I have a question as an engineer. How easy is it to pursue biomedical engineering as the focus of the MS + research? I really don't want to waste all the ridiculous effort I'm putting into my classes training me as an engineer, and I actually enjoy the engineering side as of things well. Case has a super awesome BME program, and I'd like to take advantage of it, assuming I even get in.

And with that question out of the way, I shall continue studying for my heat transfer final

I glanced at the sample programs, and it appears that the MS in BME takes 4 extra classes (Case is on semesters, btw) after double-counting a bunch of medical school credit. You'll have to do your thesis in BME with a adviser that has a Case faculty appointment. My impression is that if it's something you're interested in, it is quite do-able and you'll still graduate in 5 years.

 

[FluffyRabbit]

How about current alums? 😎

Is there such a thing as a non-current alum? 😛

 

[vc7777]

...the only reason why that school is my top choice is the tuition waiver....I feel like the major impetus for this exaggerated enthusiasm stems not from the the logistics of the program but rather how if you go there it's free....this whole "applying to medical school" business is such as a crock of feces

f that's truly the only reason you applied, please withdraw your application so that people who actually want to come here have a better shot.

+ 1

+2

Yeah...

Anyways, I think the small things about a school...they're important, too....if you don't have that, then it's hard to be sold on a school.

...You should go somewhere that will give you the kind of education that meets your needs, even if it costs more.

I do hope you attend another school, not only because they'll serve your goals better, but also because you'll not enjoy being here and we will not enjoy having you here.

+7 by my count.

I've literally stopped by the majority of lunches for applicants this year and said this in person: Do not come to CCLCM for the prestige or the scholarship. You will be miserable if you do. Come here because you feel like our mission, indeed our philosophies, resonate with you and your personality and your career goals.

 

[vc7777]

Anybody going to Doc Opera tonight? I'm bringing my casual rake ("after six rake"). Should be a good time. 😉

 

[Metallica1936]

Well....I am absolutely in love with Case. My interviews went incredible, and my stats are competitive there. Also, I made sure to highlight how I fit wonderfully in the innovative curriculum and such. Praying to get accepted..... Best of luck to the rest of you interviewing!

 

[Fopo]

Here during my interview, one of the other applicants was like "Isn't that a party school? I hear there a lot of hot women at your school." (And this was from a female applicant btw, her words not mine.) So the moral of the story is, just because other applicants don't think you are up to par, you still got a interview at Case, which means your at least on par with most of them.

I couldn't agree more! I loved my experience and I did not feel out of my league in the least. I knew that I had done similar work as the other applicants and I was there for a reason. I fell in love with Case. I hope for the best!

 

[lbzak]

Here during my interview, one of the other applicants was like "Isn't that a party school? I hear there a lot of hot women at your school." (And this was from a female applicant btw, her words not mine.) So the moral of the story is, just because other applicants don't think you are up to par, you still got a interview at Case, which means your at least on par with most of them.

I agree! And in some cases, party schools are not always mediocre schools!

 

[wholeheartedly]

You can talk about how it's completely PBL, how it's related to Cleveland Clinic, and how Dean Franco is just the most superb person in the world, but when it comes down to it, how many of you would actually be head-over-tails for this program that involves an extra year of schooling if the tuition waiver wasn't present?

I can say I definitely fell in love with this school long before I ever had any idea that everyone got a tuition waiver. I'm very research oriented but want to be an excellent clinician as well. I'm seriously considering MSTP programs, but as a non-trad student I'm not sure that's the best use of my time to accomplish my goals. I don't want to run my own basic science lab, but I do want to have a lot of involvement in clinical and public health type research. I've had experience with similar types of group learning and it's something that worked really well for me. I'm very self-motivated and not having to worry about grades for exams is nice as well. I followed CCLCMer's blog and kept thinking that if I was going to put together a the best medical school for someone like me, it would look a lot like that. It seems like the students got a lot of extra opportunities and aren't stuck just shadowing in the background. It also seems like they got a ton of mentorship early on as well. The students can give good examples of the administration being very responsive to student feedback as well. They seem to have a vested interest in their students and don't just pay lip service to the idea. These are all big plusses to me. Even when I did realize they offered the tuition benefit I didn't think I'd even be a competitive applicant, so it didn't even seem like a realistic option. It's still one of the top school's on my favorites list.

While it seems great short term to get the tuition waiver, that lost year of attending salary and the extra year of loans taken out for living expenses accruing interest winds up actually putting you behind for the long-term.

If that's not your thing, well, at least you know that. I'm not applying yet, so you wouldn't be potentially taking my spot. It is nice though if everyone can go to a school that is a good fit for them. It's miserable being in a program that's a poor fit.

 

[Myuu]

One thing I should mention about med school in general--your shadowing career is over. You should not be shadowing anywhere.

 

[phnerd1105]

Anybody going to Doc Opera tonight? I'm bringing my casual rake ("after six rake"). Should be a good time. 😉

I wasn't able to make it...how was it?

 

[vc7777]

Higher-order Primate Pirates ftw!

I wasn't able to make it...how was it?

Was cool.

 

[nadaba]

One thing I should mention about med school in general--your shadowing career is over. You should not be shadowing anywhere.

Unless you go to a school like Mayo, where they seem to actively encourage shadowing.

 

[Metallica1936]

Can anybody comment on the promptness or lack thereof on hearing back post interview? Thanks!👍

 

[Myuu]

Can anybody comment on the promptness or lack thereof on hearing back post interview? Thanks!👍

About two weeks, but longer around the holidays.

 

[wholeheartedly]

Unless you go to a school like Mayo, where they seem to actively encourage shadowing.

Well, there's shadowing in pre-clinical years (and I think it's still participatory at Mayo) and not really being included as a member of the team during the clinical years. That's what I was going for when I used shadowing.

What's the weather like in Cleve?

 

[Myuu]

Well, there's shadowing in pre-clinical years (and I think it's still participatory at Mayo) and not really being included as a member of the team during the clinical years. That's what I was going for when I used shadowing.

What's the weather like in Cleve?

Right now? Cloudless sky at 36°.

 

[Metallica1936]

About two weeks, but longer around the holidays.

Thank you once again! My day at Case was incredible, and I am really leaning on it being my top choice. Do you mind directing me to anything I can read written by students that will help me decide if it truly is a good fit for me or not? From what I read on Case's site and from what I could gleam on my interview day, I believe it is, but I would like to read some more student feedback. HUGE thanks in advance. This is thread is amazing and is all because of the current students and alum that are so active here.

 

[bucks2010]

I read on the fin aid guidelines from the office that those with employed spouses are expected to have their spouse cover food and utilities.

I will have a spouse but their income likely won't be very high. Anyone know how flexible the office is with still letting you borrow some $ to go towards food/housing? I am not talking about borrowing above the COA, just borrowing some of the budgeted amount. The wording on the page made it sound like you couldn't borrow for food/housing if you are married.

 

[Iso4ane]

I couldn't agree more! I loved my experience and I did not feel out of my league in the least. I knew that I had done similar work as the other applicants and I was there for a reason. I fell in love with Case. I hope for the best!

Thank you once again! My day at Case was incredible, and I am really leaning on it being my top choice. Do you mind directing me to anything I can read written by students that will help me decide if it truly is a good fit for me or not? From what I read on Case's site and from what I could gleam on my interview day, I believe it is, but I would like to read some more student feedback. HUGE thanks in advance. This is thread is amazing and is all because of the current students and alum that are so active here.

If you have any particular question you can post it here and some will answer you.

But, here are some things to get you started:

http://wiki.case.edu/SOM/CodeBlue

http://wiki.case.edu/SOM/CodeBlue/Student_Life

 

[tetra123]

I apologize if this has been answered or addressed (searched the thread and could not find an answer) - Can anyone tell me anything about the group activity for the College Program? Thank you!

 

[Auriga]

I read on the fin aid guidelines from the office that those with employed spouses are expected to have their spouse cover food and utilities.

I will have a spouse but their income likely won't be very high. Anyone know how flexible the office is with still letting you borrow some $ to go towards food/housing? I am not talking about borrowing above the COA, just borrowing some of the budgeted amount. The wording on the page made it sound like you couldn't borrow for food/housing if you are married.

Hi Bucks! I'm a M2 and haven't been on here as often this year, but Myuu snagged me to field this one.

The fin aid process was confusing to understand, but you can borrow up to the COA without problem, whether you are married or not. In order to qualify for need-based grants through the school, they will require you provide them with your financial records etc as a couple, but that won't determine your ability to take loans.

If you have any questions about it specifically, you can contact the student aid office, they are quite nice about explaining things 🙂

Hope this helps!

 

[CCLCMer]

Is there such a thing as a non-current alum? 😛

Yes, there is such a thing as a future alum, which you potentially are. Emphasis on the potentially if you keep up that attitude.

Well, there's shadowing in pre-clinical years (and I think it's still participatory at Mayo) and not really being included as a member of the team during the clinical years. That's what I was going for when I used shadowing.

At CCLCM you are not required to shadow, although some people do on their own time. But I think what Myuu was getting at is that the clinical experiences we have as first and second year students are not shadowing experiences. Starting in the fall of your first year, you are in the clinic, interviewing patients, doing physical exams, presenting to the preceptor, etc.

I apologize if this has been answered or addressed (searched the thread and could not find an answer) - Can anyone tell me anything about the group activity for the College Program? Thank you!

What they do is pick a topic that is general knowledge and somehow related to medicine, and you go through the issues as a group with a med student leader and a faculty facilitator. It gives you an idea about how PBL works. Please don't stress over it, because it's really laid back and fun.

 

[Myuu]

At CCLCM you are not required to shadow, although some people do on their own time. But I think what Myuu was getting at is that the clinical experiences we have as first and second year students are not shadowing experiences. Starting in the fall of your first year, you are in the clinic, interviewing patients, doing physical exams, presenting to the preceptor, etc.

Yeah, that!