2013-2014 Stanford University Application Thread

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just got a rejection letter...so another round of those are on their way out too:/

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What does that mean? A lot of people turning them down or something?

It really is bizarre...if they are still interviewing and accepting people then i guess those of us on the waitlist are doomed.
 
It really is bizarre...if they are still interviewing and accepting people then i guess those of us on the waitlist are doomed.

I'm not too sure about that. I haven't heard of anyone getting accepted from my interview day (except for an MD/PhD). I think they might only be doing waitlist activity now but you never know and no one can be sure since they're not the most open about it. My point is: I don't think we can rule anything out yet. But I'm also trying to remain optimistic :)
 
I'm not too sure about that. I haven't heard of anyone getting accepted from my interview day (except for an MD/PhD). I think they might only be doing waitlist activity now but you never know and no one can be sure since they're not the most open about it. My point is: I don't think we can rule anything out yet. But I'm also trying to remain optimistic :)
Was the person from 3/27 who reported getting a call from Dean Garcia MD/Phd?
 
I heard that there were a few apps that had not been reviewed so in fairness to those students, another interview was made. Waitlist movement will most likely occur after May 15, if it does at all.
 
They over enrolled their class last year. At my interview day, they made it pretty clear this was a huge headache.

To make up for it, they had several kids deffer enrollment so the incoming class accepted from this round is smaller.

They want to avoid last year, and matriculate an exact number. How do they get an exact number of matriculating students? They use the waitlist. Expect movement off the waitlist.
 
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Finally got my pre-interview rejection letter. In all honesty, with my stats there was no way I ever thought I would get an interview here anyways, I'm just surprised it took them this long to send me a rejection.
 
Good luck to everyone interviewing tomorrow!!! Also, any information from Director Perez or Dean Garcia about when final decisions will be sent out and if there will be WL movement this year would be greatly appreciated :)

I'm still waiting post-interview. I called them, and they said it's because they still haven't reached a decision yet on my app...
 
Does anyone have any updated information from the May 6th interview day?
 
Hi guys, I was at the May 6 interview. From what I remember, Dean Garcia said that they were very behind in their app review process this year and didn't finish reviewing all apps until end of April (they had hoped to be done at end of Feb), which is why they created this May 6 interview date. With this May 6 interview date, they were able to hit the number of interview invites they were planning to give out (450). Nothing was said about waitlist movement or when final decisions would be made. They told us that we'd hear back from them "on or after May 15" and that they would treat our interview date like any other and expect to accept the same percentage of applicants from our interview day in comparison to one earlier in the cycle.

So, assuming what Dean Garcia said is true, I surmise that this late interview date shouldn't be viewed as "all hope is lost" for those on the waitlist or those who haven't heard anything yet.

Hang in there guys. My takeaway from the madness that is the med school application process is that you should never ask "when should i expect to hear back", or any other questions that demand certainty, because there are so many variables at play that med schools can't control and their answer is probably going to be inaccurate 80% of the time. Better to just take things as it comes and save yourself the anxiety :)
 
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Thanks for the info, good luck! Pls keep us updated.
 
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So for those of us that still haven't heard pre-interview, it's pretty much game over then, right? I have to say I'm pretty disappointed in how Stanford has handled this admissions process (not that I had a chance in hell of getting in anyways).
 
Hi guys, I was at the May 6 interview. From what I remember, Dean Garcia said that they were very behind in their app review process this year and didn't finish reviewing all apps until end of April (they had hoped to be done at end of Feb), which is why they created this May 6 interview date. With this May 6 interview date, they were able to hit the number of interview invites they were planning to give out (450). Nothing was said about waitlist movement or when final decisions would be made. They told us that we'd hear back from them "on or after May 15" and that they would treat our interview date like any other and expect to accept the same percentage of applicants from our interview day in comparison to one earlier in the cycle.

So, assuming what Dean Garcia said is true, I surmise that this late interview date shouldn't be viewed as "all hope is lost" for those on the waitlist or those who haven't heard anything yet.

Hang in there guys. My takeaway from the madness that is the med school application process is that you should never ask "when should i expect to hear back", or any other questions that demand certainty, because there are so many variables at play that med schools can't control and their answer is probably going to be inaccurate 80% of the time. Better to just take things as it comes and save yourself the anxiety :)

Jeez....they think they can get away with murder just because "we're Stanford"
 
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Jeez....they think they can get away with murder just because "we're Stanford"

Their rationale for notifying on/after May 15 is that they wouldn't want to notify us on May 14 and only give us one day to choose between Stanford and any other school we may already have an acceptance at.
 
Jeez....they think they can get away with murder just because "we're Stanford"

I think after 15th is better for applicants, since it will be like getting off a wait-list, so if you get in and want to go to Stanford, you can withdraw from the school you accepted before 15th. Otherwise, you have to choose between schools last minute.
 
I think after 15th is better for applicants, since it will be like getting off a wait-list, so if you get in and want to go to Stanford, you can withdraw from the school you accepted before 15th. Otherwise, you have to choose between schools last minute.

I didn't think you have more than a few days to decide anyway if you get accepted post May 15th? It almost seems like Stanford's explanation is a euphemistic way of describing interviewing for a spot on the waitlist.

But either way, if there is waitlist movement I guess it'll be clear this week!


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Is there any interest in creating a separate Stanford waitlist thread? I'll do the honors if people are interested in having a thread dedicated to it.


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I would all be for a Stanford Wait list thread!

Anyone who is on the Wait list, when you sent letters of intent/update, did you send them to the mdadmissions email and then also to Jonathan Perez? I did it to both just in case, but I wanted to make sure I did it right in case I was supposed to send it elsewhere.
 
I would all be for a Stanford Wait list thread!

Anyone who is on the Wait list, when you sent letters of intent/update, did you send them to the mdadmissions email and then also to Jonathan Perez? I did it to both just in case, but I wanted to make sure I did it right in case I was supposed to send it elsewhere.

I think mdadmissions and Perez are one :) but I think you're covered regardless!


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crossing my fingers for everyone on the waitlist. withdrew my spot (after a long day of anguished decisionmaking) and hope it goes to someone here :)
 
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Hi all, wondering if anyone sent in a pure "letter of interest" post-interview? Their website only says that updates are acceptable. For those of you who did send in updates, did you only write about things that you didn't mention during the interview?
 
Hi all I'm a prospective applicant.. I've heard that stanford heavily favors research applicants... Is that so? How much research do you think is necessary in order to be competitive at a school like stanford ? Thank you!
 
Hi all I'm a prospective applicant.. I've heard that stanford heavily favors research applicants... Is that so? How much research do you think is necessary in order to be competitive at a school like stanford ? Thank you!

I think the word on the street is always that big, top-20 research institutions favor research applicants, but I don't think that's the cut and dry case. Yes, I applied to many top-20 schools and interviewed and I have always had research in my background, but one of my most significant experiences was a significant amount of clinic work. And that's what my interviewers focussed on.

I think what schools want when they look for interviewees, is an interesting story. Where the pieces of your application come together to give them a good idea of why you want to do medicine, and what you're interested in, and what makes you you really. That being said, research is important, I think, whether you love it or hate it, because then you know how much of a role you want it to play in the future.

But that's just my 2 cents :)
 
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I think the word on the street is always that big, top-20 research institutions favor research applicants, but I don't think that's the cut and dry case. Yes, I applied to many top-20 schools and interviewed and I have always had research in my background, but one of my most significant experiences was a significant amount of clinic work. And that's what my interviewers focussed on.

I think what schools want when they look for interviewees, is an interesting story. Where the pieces of your application come together to give them a good idea of why you want to do medicine, and what you're interested in, and what makes you you really. That being said, research is important, I think, whether you love it or hate it, because then you know how much of a role you want it to play in the future.

But that's just my 2 cents :)


I really appreciate your clarification and will definitely use this when applying. One further question that I have is do you think 1-1.5 years of research is adequate for a school like stanford? im curious because ive heard that stanford's medical education is essentially a graduate research degree as they are focused on innovation, etc?

thanks again!
 
Hi all I'm a prospective applicant.. I've heard that stanford heavily favors research applicants... Is that so? How much research do you think is necessary in order to be competitive at a school like stanford ? Thank you!

I think its a good idea to look at every medical school's mission statement to get a sense of what they're about.

Here's Stanford's Mission Statement: "To be a premier research-intensive medical school that improves health through leadership, diversity, and a collaborative approach to discovery and innovation in patient care, education, and research."

Stanford is very focused on leadership in medicine and molding future providers who will go onto careers that involve changing medicine, not just serving as a clinician (though, this is of course still goal #1). I don't think you need to think about this purely from the lens of "basic science" research though. Stanford is also interested in people who will lead in clinical/epi research, health policy, health education, global health, public health, even the medical humanities (i.e. journalism, documentary film, etc.). There are an enormous amount of resources available at Stanford (both monetary $$$ and collaborative from being part of a vibrant campus with other top graduates programs in law, business, natural/social sciences, humanities, etc.) and they want to select students who will take advantage of those resources in interesting and innovative ways. If you just want to become a private practice physician who has limited involvement in affairs outside of day-to-day practice, Stanford probably isn't the right place for you.

Thus, to answer you question...I don't think Stanford looks for any sort of minimum research experience. They're just looking for people who have demonstrated (in whatever specific way) drive and ability to lead in medicine.
 
I really appreciate your clarification and will definitely use this when applying. One further question that I have is do you think 1-1.5 years of research is adequate for a school like stanford? im curious because ive heard that stanford's medical education is essentially a graduate research degree as they are focused on innovation, etc?

thanks again!

I don't think you have to worry about the length of the research (especially if you were doing other valuable extracurriculars during other times). Like mdeast said, Stanford wants to have students who have the potential to be leaders in their fields. If you can talk about your research well in an interview or in your application and your passion for it can come out, then you'll be fine on that aspect. But if research is the one big, significant thing of your application, then that could be a slight issue because of the time you've been doing it. If you have other good ECs, then you're good
 
Has anyone from the May 6th interview date heard anything?
 
Declined acceptance to Stanford this week. Let it be known that chief among the reasons was how unbelievably disorganized, opaque, slow, and borderline-dishonest the application process was at this school. In essence, at Stanford, they tell you one thing (e.g. "you'll hear by such and such date") but do another entirely.
 
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haven't heard anything
 
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Declined acceptance to Stanford this week. Let it be known that chief among the reasons was how unbelievably disorganized, opaque, slow, and borderline-dishonest the application process was at this school. In essence, at Stanford, they tell you one thing (e.g. "you'll hear by such and such date") but do another entirely.
Could be a first: Declining Stanford out of spite. Not sure Stanford will allow a withdrawal based solely on spite.
 
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Not so much spite, as I'm worried about what it says about the school as a whole.

An interview date in May just about sums it up really.

Could be a bunch of things though, like a new Dean and their over-enrollment (miscalculation?) from last year. And then there's the absurdly-low acceptance rate they want to maintain for their USNWR rankings. It also seems like they didn't want to go head-to-head against HMS for the same applicants (and lose).

Anyway, sounds like you have great options beyond Stanford.
 
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Declined acceptance to Stanford this week. Let it be known that chief among the reasons was how unbelievably disorganized, opaque, slow, and borderline-dishonest the application process was at this school. In essence, at Stanford, they tell you one thing (e.g. "you'll hear by such and such date") but do another entirely.

Hey I'm really sorry about the experience that you had with admissions. We had a new director this year who started in late August so things were a bit slower here than normal. As you can imagine, handling all of admissions requires a huge learning curve and there were definitely some bumps along the way that will hopefully be smoothed out in the future. I can also say that once you're admitted, there is relatively very little contact with the admissions office so I would not say that it reflects the school overall. Congrats on a great cycle btw!
 
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An interview date in May just about sums it up really.

Could be a bunch of things though, like a new Dean and their over-enrollment (miscalculation?) from last year. And then there's the absurdly-low acceptance rate they want to maintain for their USNWR rankings. It also seems like they didn't want to go head-to-head against HMS for the same applicants (and lose).

Anyway, sounds like you have great options beyond Stanford.

I wonder if they know/care how offensive it is to applicants--many of whom have many other options--that they would have interview dates WEEKS AFTER the revisit event. How do they expect admits to make a choice if they don't get to revisit?
 
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Got my waitlist letter in the mail dated 5/16. Interviewed in late march.
 
I wonder if they know/care how offensive it is to applicants--many of whom have many other options--that they would have interview dates WEEKS AFTER the revisit event. How do they expect admits to make a choice if they don't get to revisit?

By far, they are the most absurd admissions staff of the 2013-2014 application cycle. Hopefully, they'll correct their rookie mistakes next year, but the competition with HMS/JHU persists.
 
So, have any State school applicants gotten into Stanford?
 
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