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I probably shouldn't be so thrilled, but I got a secondary request after sending in my letter of interest that they requested. I'm OOR.
 
Albanian24 said:
I probably shouldn't be so thrilled, but I got a secondary request after sending in my letter of interest that they requested. I'm OOR.
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congrats!! when you submit the mission statement?
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Did you mean to say STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math)? I graduated high school right before STEM was a thing but I got good science math and tech exposure. A STEMI on the other hand is a heart attack in medical lingo. Stands for ST Elevation Myocardial Infarction.
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That exactly what I meant! Sorry for the confusion, I didn't catch that autocorrect. Thanks!
 
ProMom said:
Not sure. Maybe they are on top of their stuff with sending out secondaries. I *think* that all WWAMI applicants above the cutoff get the secondary but I could be wrong.
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That's an accurate statement. As you said, that applied only to WWAMI applicants.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Not to poke fun at you. I just thought it was a pretty funny typo for a medical forum.
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No offense taken at all! lol My autocorrect has become a mix of fast random typos and medical jargon...hoping by 4th year it'll be mostly medical jargon! 😉
 
ProMom said:
Not sure. Maybe they are on top of their stuff with sending out secondaries. I *think* that all WWAMI applicants above the cutoff get the secondary but I could be wrong.
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This probably can be found elsewhere but what is UW's cutoff for WWAMI applicants?
 
pediatricneurotrauma said:
Still radio silence since the first "we have your application and haven't looked at it yet" email on 7/5... not sure what to make of that, since others have already been rejected.
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Just wondering: did you ever hear back from UW with a request for the mission statement essay?

I ask because I added this school late and just received the email you described (application received and undergoing "preliminary review") but no request for the mission statement essay or anything. I'm wondering if it's likely I won't ever receive it and will just get rejected pre-mission statement essay, lol
 
ThisIsFine. said:
Just wondering: did you ever hear back from UW with a request for the mission statement essay?

I ask because I added this school late and just received the email you described (application received and undergoing "preliminary review") but no request for the mission statement essay or anything. I'm wondering if it's likely I won't ever receive it and will just get rejected pre-mission statement essay, lol
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Only out of state students are asked to submit a mission statement.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Only out of state students are asked to submit a mission statement.
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Yep, I'm OOS. I thought that poster was OOS too, but I might be wrong. I thought I had read that some OOS people got rejected prior to receiving the mission statement essay, but idk I might be wrong!
 
ThisIsFine. said:
Just wondering: did you ever hear back from UW with a request for the mission statement essay?

I ask because I added this school late and just received the email you described (application received and undergoing "preliminary review") but no request for the mission statement essay or anything. I'm wondering if it's likely I won't ever receive it and will just get rejected pre-mission statement essay, lol
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Same boat here, added like 1.5 weeks ago and nothing since the initial email

EDIT: Spoke too soon, just got the R
 
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fluffysquirrel said:
Hey friend; that's not what it means. It means they calculate each year in a specific way, giving you an advantage if you have an upward trend. It used to be on the website; I couldn't find it this time but this is the formula from an old thread:

"The undergraduate GPA is weighted to give credit to applicants whose records show improvement as they progress through their undergraduate studies. Only the first three years are included in this calculation as most applicants have just begun their senior year. The weighted GPA is calculated on a standard 4-point scale with 4.00 representing an "A" average.
CUM. Freshman GPA x 1 = A
CUM. Sophomore GPA x 2 = B
CUM. Junior GPA x 3 = C

(A+B+C)/6 = Weighted GPA

An initial automated screening is done of all applications. The WGPA is added to the mean MCAT score converted to a 4.0 scale so that the maximal "Combined score" =8. If this combined score is less than 5, the application is automatically screened out. If your application falls into this category, but you have subsequently taken additional coursework and have a stronger subsequent GPA, you may be eligible for reconsideration. Please contact our office for more information."
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When you mean cum sophomore gpa and cum junior gpa, do you mean sophomore gpa only for sophomore gpa, cumulated for only the semesters taken during sophomore year, and etc. for junior year?
 
wmd95 said:
When you mean cum sophomore gpa and cum junior gpa, do you mean sophomore gpa only for sophomore gpa, cumulated for only the semesters taken during sophomore year, and etc. for junior year?
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yes
 
wmd95 said:
And is this for both the total GPA and sciGPA? or only one of the two?
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Total. They just use that and convert you're MCAT score to the same percentage out of 4.0. If the sum of you're weighted GPA and MCAT is below 6 you get automatically screened out.
 
wmd95 said:
And is this for both the total GPA and sciGPA? or only one of the two?
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Only the cumulative gpa is used. It includes the freshman, sophmore, and junior year courses. When manual screening is done, they take a look at your senior courses and beyond but they are not including in the weighted gpa.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Total. They just use that and convert you're MCAT score to the same percentage out of 4.0. If the sum of you're weighted GPA and MCAT is below 6 you get automatically screened out.
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fluffy squirrel's pasted message says if it's less than 5. Also, how do you know? And does anybody know how the MCAT is converted to a score?
 
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fluffysquirrel said:
Only the cumulative gpa is used. It includes the freshman, sophmore, and junior year courses. When manual screening is done, they take a look at your senior courses and beyond but they are not including in the weighted gpa.
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Maybe I'm dumb, but where does it say it only uses the cumulative GPA, and not the science one?
 
wmd95 said:
fluffy squirrel's pasted message says if it's less than 5. Also, how do you know? And does anybody know how the MCAT is converted to a score?
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It's on UWs website somewhere. It might be 5, not 6. I haven't looked in a while. They don't really explain how they convert the MCAT but I assume you take your overall percentile as a decimal and multiply by 4. For example if you scored a 93%ile you'd use .93*4.0
 
anyone hear back after submitting mission statement july 14 or later?
 
Also, according to MSAR under the MCAT table, they post the data on the most recent MCAT. However, we know from the UW website that they average all the MCATs instead of taking the highest MCAT. Additionally, we know that some people will definitely retake the MCAT, and assuming scored higher, will have a lower than highest MCAT score different from the score from a single sitting. Thus, do you think the MCAT data on MSAR is slightly above what UW actually uses during admissions?
 
wmd95 said:
Also, according to MSAR under the MCAT table, they post the data on the most recent MCAT. However, we know from the UW website that they average all the MCATs instead of taking the highest MCAT. Additionally, we know that some people will definitely retake the MCAT, and assuming scored higher, will have a lower than highest MCAT score different from the score from a single sitting. Thus, do you think the MCAT data on MSAR is slightly above what UW actually uses during admissions?
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where does it say they average them? online it says

"The most recent MCAT is used in the initial screening process. All scores are incorporated in the discussion by the admission committee."

they discuss all scores, not necessarily average them.
 
mysankofa said:
where does it say they average them? online it says]

Oh you're right! Thanks for clarifying. It was confusing because it said they use the average scores during the admissions committee process, but the highest for the initial screening process. I didn't make that distinction. Thanks!

Okay, then my question still stands during the admissions committee process. The MCAT scores listed on MSAR are higher than the actual MCAT averages looked at during the admissions committee process possibly? Reference my previous post a couple posts above for the question
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mysankofa said:
where does it say they average them? online it says

"The most recent MCAT is used in the initial screening process. All scores are incorporated in the discussion by the admission committee."

they discuss all scores, not necessarily average them.
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Oh you're right! Thanks for clarifying. It was confusing because it said they use the average scores during the admissions committee process, but the highest for the initial screening process. I didn't make that distinction. Thanks!

Okay, then my question still stands during the admissions committee process. The MCAT scores listed on MSAR are higher than the actual MCAT averages looked at during the admissions committee process possibly? Reference my previous post a couple posts above for the question
 
wmd95 said:
Oh you're right! Thanks for clarifying. It was confusing because it said they use the average scores during the admissions committee process, but the highest for the initial screening process. I didn't make that distinction. Thanks!

Okay, then my question still stands during the admissions committee process. The MCAT scores listed on MSAR are higher than the actual MCAT averages looked at during the admissions committee process possibly? Reference my previous post a couple posts above for the question
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there's really no way to answer this because we don't know if they include only the highest mcat or all the mcat scores in the msar averages. regardless, i don't think it really matters considering how wide the range for matriculated students is. 10th percentile is 498 and 90th is 516. it's probably one of the widest ranges out of all medical schools since uw takes a very holistic look at your application beyond your numbers. if you're somewhere in that range, you'll be fine; don't need to stress that much my friend.
 
mysankofa said:
there's really no way to answer this because we don't know if they include only the highest mcat or all the mcat scores in the msar averages. regardless, i don't think it really matters considering how wide the range for matriculated students is. 10th percentile is 498 and 90th is 516. it's probably one of the widest ranges out of all medical schools since uw takes a very holistic look at your application beyond your numbers. if you're somewhere in that range, you'll be fine; don't need to stress that much my friend.
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True. And actually we do know since MSAR says they report the most recent MCAT (in small font) under the MCAT data, which is usually higher for applicants who retook it.
 
wmd95 said:
True. And actually we do know since MSAR says they report the most recent MCAT (in small font) under the MCAT data, which is usually higher for applicants who retook it.
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if you already knew the answer, why did you ask the question...

i don't see why it even remotely matters. even if it's the most recent mcat, it's still the real score of what matriculants got. i highly doubt there's a huge difference between most recent score and the average between all mcats. if you get a secondary, you made the cut.
 
mysankofa said:
if you already knew the answer, why did you ask the question...

i don't see why it even remotely matters. even if it's the most recent mcat, it's still the real score of what matriculants got. i highly doubt there's a huge difference between most recent score and the average between all mcats. if you get a secondary, you made the cut.
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When most people retake the MCAT, they may score plus or minus a percentile or two but typically not much. The old test gave a confidence and of plus or minus 2 points at least for my score. That may not be true when comparing the new test to old test since the format and content are quite different. Either way all admissions committees have access to all scores should they choose to look at it. All you can do now is write good quality essays and tell the committee who you are.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
When most people retake the MCAT, they may score plus or minus a percentile or two but typically not much. The old test gave a confidence and of plus or minus 2 points at least for my score. That may not be true when comparing the new test to old test since the format and content are quite different. Either way all admissions committees have access to all scores should they choose to look at it. All you can do now is write good quality essays and tell the committee who you are.
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Did you quote the wrong person? I agree that most people score generally the same with retakes, that's why we can't assume the msar data is higher than "actual" matriculant scores. I was saying what's the point of speculating about it, when the data is just there for reference.
 
mysankofa said:
Did you quote the wrong person? I agree that most people score generally the same with retakes, that's why we can't assume the msar data is higher than "actual" matriculant scores. I was saying what's the point of speculating about it, when the data is just there for reference.
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Maybe I did. I also read that the committee has access to your old application. That's real unbiased.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Maybe I did. I also read that the committee has access to your old application. That's real unbiased.
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yeah, most schools do. they often compare side by side to see what's changed if you're a reapp
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
Actually I don't think most do. It's too much data for them to retain.
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No, actually they do. They keep your entire application on file. I'm a reapplicant and almost every school I talked to about my application said they compare apps. How else would they know how you improved? You could ask any adcom and they'll give you the same answer.
 
mysankofa said:
No, actually they do. They keep your entire application on file. I'm a reapplicant and almost every school I talked to about my application said they compare apps. How else would they know how you improved? You could ask any adcom and they'll give you the same answer.
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Did you previously interview at those schools?
 
mysankofa said:
some of them yes, some of them no
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That seems like a lot of data to retain. I'm sure there's a time limit on how long they keep it. Maybe 5 years? Well, I definitely prefer my app this year over previous years.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
That seems like a lot of data to retain. I'm sure there's a time limit on how long they keep it. Maybe 5 years? Well, I definitely prefer my app this year over previous years.
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I'm not sure how long they keep it; I just know they do. gonnif said this

"Since all schools some form of automated software is AMCAS supplied or compliant, and all applicants are tracked on AMCAS IDs, not only do most schools look at previous applications, they likely have them automatically pop up on your new application. They only safe course of action is to assume that any school you have previously applied to will see your previous application"

in this thread : Med schools look at old application?

This is why medical schools want you to have a new personal statement, secondary essay responses, etc if you reapply. they want to see you actually improved your application.
 
What did everyone write or is planning on writing for the "...let us know more about who you are in addition to being someone who wants to be a physician. This is another opportunity for you to express what you want the Admissions Committee to know about you."

I feel as if I explained myself pretty well on the primary and other secondary questions. I am a re-applicant, but that isn't really something interesting to write about.
 
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