Yes that’s true. I’m also wondering if the late March interviews will be scored in time, the last date option I had was the 24th I think... which is just a few days time to rank students
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i have no idea what you mean to be honest. its more accurate to just go by end of cycle counts. which is where the 60 percent comes from: 320/ 540 ish.
So we were told at our interview day that regardless of the fact that April is coming up and March 27 looks like the last day they would be accepting people in this top 20 fashion, they will be doing it biweekly through may until the true wait list is created.
and md /mph is a separate list. they said both lists are looked at and ranked separately which would mean the top 20 are taken from both. thats what i would assume. it wouldnt make sense to take the top 10 of each or something weird like that to get a total of 20 students
i see what you mean. im not sure how many dates there already were but would be interesting to know. my recent interview group was large, maybe 20 people but that was apparently much bigger than the others.
There were more than 4 acceptance days. About 8-9 from October 15 to now. The 60-70% also includes WL movement, and truthfully, that movement has already began, so we are staring down some lower chances. WL movement after the interview cycle at any school isn’t always predictable.
MD is 150 matriculants and md/mph is 50 when all is said and done. I surmise that they take 15 MD students and 5 MD/MPH.
perhaps but then that list would move at a snails pace. theyd have to accept around 75 or more to get 50 md mph and 300 ish for md to get 150 final people. its worth it to note that according to last years threads, these lists do not move on the same days. its clear they are looked at at different times
From my understanding you’re ranked/scored and inserted to the master list. If you happen to be in the top 20 then you’re accepted, the top 20 can be both previous interviewees dating back to the first interview date or a student that just did their interview. It all depends on how many points you have. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
i think this is right
Yes that’s what it’s supposed to say right now.
It’s hard to tell who’s withdrawn from acceptance and even who’s come off the alternate list on unofficial days (they may or may not be doing that latter part this year). Also they interviewed 540 last year because of the hurricane. Normally they interview closer to 600.
Edit: lastly this isn’t some kind of slot machine. Luck is involved, but they are going to consciously choose who they want for these last spots.
They discussed having a master list, but I’m unsure about how it’s divided by md and md/mph
After I discuss this one last time, I highly suggest we all just sit tight for one more week instead of speculating about how much slimmer these chances are.
There have actually been 9 acceptance days so far, and from the looks of it, there have been no deviations from the set days for alternate list admission offers, so that would be 180 not 200, thus indicating 140 more available spots, but that includes WL movement.
There is no set probability for all of us. There is only the set number of slots (15 or 20, not even sure anymore) for March 27. Our decisions are not independent events from each other, nor are they individually based entirely on luck. The adcom has a lot more candidates to choose from now, and their committee will review our primary, secondary, and interview report in order to give us an aggregate score and rank. As for what our scores will be? That’s a mix of subjective and objective assessment, but just hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
I actually burst out laughing at this. Scrapy had just gotten done telling you to sit tight about the speculation and you agreed and then did it again hahaha
and your typo “mater” in every post just made it even funnier.
miami please love us all. thanks
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This is what I was told on interview day, but they didn't spend much time talking about it
It’s a proposed change.
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There's been a lot of different information floating about. Several pages back a current student mentioned it was 100% official and happening, but more recently a current student said it's being discussed in committee and is not official. I'm tempted to believe that it is still in discussion. I don't think the faculty strongly support moving to P/F (based on brief convo with my interviewer), but I imagine current students will lobby for it. The same more recent current student mentioned it may not happen next year, and may have to wait until the following year (our M2 year) before being introduced--and that it will be accompanied by a more general curriculum update.
I'm sure it will come up during 2nd Look, hopefully the admissions and admin have some updates at that point.
I interviewed this month and they said it’s waiting for final approval from some committee. It seemed like it’s in the end stages of getting it changed.
A current student also told me that the curriculum changes might only happen next year, so to clarify, that would mean we have the same curriculum as they had this past year. I was told that certain modules, like anatomy that was 6 weeks, were a killer
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No it doesn’t seem like it
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False, I received an II yesterday for 3/25!
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I was actually about to ask this- I've only heard about merit scholarships (in Feb) and no info is on my cane link. I applied for need based and diversity and haven't received a decision. I haven't gotten an official package with loans either. Do any current students know when this is usually sent out? Thanks 🙂
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Congrats!!! I was left on read, never scored...
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Hey. For M1 so far, all the modules have been rather chill after anatomy. It was just anatomy that was killer (which is 8 weeks not 6 weeks). I have no clue why they make anatomy so grueling, but literally almost everyone passes (>95%). After that the work load is much less intense!
Excellent. Thanks for the clarification!
Congrats!! Were there any other dates?
I’m quite positive that’s the final interview date for the cycle
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Hey all, just received an interview invite for Monday. I plan on going through the thread to see what others have said about the interview, but if anyone can give any quick tips about how the interview went/what types of questions/if they were asked anything tricky(like healthcare stuff lol) that would be great!
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They offered me 3/22 and 3/25. Nothing after, so it may be the last date.
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Has anyone who signed up for a host for second look gotten a response yet?
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Not yet. I’m actually considering staying in a hostel as well lol
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For what it's worth, they're changing anatomy for next year: From what I understand it will be about 14 weeks, and MD and MD/MPH will be combined. So it's basically meeting in the middle of how each program currently does it. It does mean that MDs will now be taking other classes concurrently with anatomy, but that's how MD/MPH has done it already (just over a much longer period) and it's manageable.
I don't think they've gotten back to anyone, because they also haven't gotten back to any of us who've signed up as hosts lol. They'll get back to you eventually but unfortunately it may still take some time, there's a lot to coordinate!
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It seems Monday is the last interview day here. So that essentially means if I don't hear anything by 5pm ET tomorrow my app is rejected right?
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Is this for MD only or for MD/MPH?
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Standard? Aside from ophtho at BPEI, theres IM at MGH and Hopkins, Derm at NYU and Harvard, N-surg at Rush, integrated plastics ... our match list is off the charts insane. That being said, standard wisdom applies - never judge a school by their match list. The decisions people make are incredibly personal, and oftentimes more prestigious programs are put lower on their lists for private/family reasons.
Thank you! We're all really proud of each other as well ... and looking forward to seeing where you guys end up next year 🙂. Miami is an amazing school - good luck to everyone during the admissions process!
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I applied MD only
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Flint! Grats! And yeaaa, we're super stressed out with externships, 4th years schedules, etc haha but we're all making it work
I meant standard for Miami. I know there’s often at least 1 from UM at BPEI, so 2 stuck out. I also thought that previous years had a good spread across competitive specialties and top tier IM. In your opinion, is this an improvement and above average match for UM?
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Ah, standard for Miami ... well that changes things!
No, I wasn't implying this was a huge deviation from the norm 🙂. You're right that Miami students normally do very well in the match. That being said, there are a lot of high profile matches in the prestige department this year, so we do feel a little justified in being pretty proud of ourselves - even in comparison to the stellar classes that came before us.
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Actually, the match rate at UM seems A LOT WORSE this year.
If you look more closely at the Match list and add up the total number Matched this year, you get only 173 students matched. UMMSM's graduating class each year is around 200 (about 150 MD and 50 MD/MPH). The exact size fluctuates a bit every year based on the number of people leaving and coming back from gap years, and the number of students who drop about, but it should be around 200. So that about 27 students or 13.5% of the class that's gone unmatched. Perhaps a few of those have decided to pursue non-clinical careers after med school and didn't match for residencies in the first place, but that's still a lot of people in the class this year without residencies. Also, note that 5 of those 173 are partial matches (ie the 2 matched to Medicine prelims, 2 Surgery Prelims, an 1 Transitional) so that means these 5 people only have a spot in a 1-year residency so far (and need to find another residency afterwards).
This is in comparison with the 2018 Match, in which there are 192 Matches listed, which is more in line with what usually happens: 2018 Match Day Results - Miller School of Medicine Admissions
At the end of the day, I wouldn't let a few top name program matches influence your decision to attend UM (or any med school). As long as you are going to a US MD school, the rest depends a lot more on individual performance than the reputation of the school.
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Yes, it's generally true that the MD/MPH class tends to be more collaborative and somewhat less "gunner" than the MD class, and this can be seen by their historically lower exam scores as well as Step 1 scores compared to the MD class. In general, the MD/MPH class has a higher proportion of non-traditional students and students who are happy to go into less competitive primary-care based specialties than the MD class, where a higher proportion are pursuing competitive specialties. Of course there are always exceptions. However, given that UM is NOT true pass/fail (despite what they say on interview day), the class will be very competitive in either program right from the 1st exam of med school, as your numerical grade on each exam is what is used to rank you. For example, on an easier exam the median might be a 96 so that means getting a 94 could put you in the bottom 1/3 of the class for that exam.
Hmm yeah, did not notice the total count. Looking back on past years, there have always been a few prelim matches and transitional matches. The lesser total number is something to note though.
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Idk where you’ve been, but there is a proposed change to go true, unranked preclinical p/f. If they don’t though, yes I have also heard that the percentiles for exam scores are historically frustratingly close.
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Does anyone remember when they said we should hear about merit scholarships?
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Wow, really? I’d like an explanation about this as well.
I had an easy relaxing Sunday, so I peeked at some other 2019 match lists. Unfortunately, its not always clear who matched into only a prelim spot, and who matched into a prelim spot and guaranteed PGY-2. However, at some schools, the distinction is a lot more obvious. Some are thankfully more honest and say whether every single match is categorical or prelim. Unfortunately, no school will ever reveal how many didn't match. We don't even know how many didn't match at UM, but we do know that we went from 200 to sub 170 categorical matches for UM class of 2022.
In the past, I've seen people say that many folks at UM want to do competitive specialties, so they'll take a research year, but that should also mean that folks who already took a research year come back to partake in the match. In addition, I doubt that UM students are being recruited for healthcare consulting, venture cap, etc. like you see with some schools in the Northeast (mainly due to geography and availability of those jobs).
