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Admitted student here - we had bunch of new students join our group chats! I think there was a sig movement this Monday/Tuesday?!
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Update to the scandal:
www.nytimes.com
Updated NYT Article. Text Below. Emphasis mine:
"Dartmouth’s Geisel School of Medicine says it is dropping an online cheating investigation that led the school to erroneously accuse some students, allegations that prompted an outcry among faculty, alumni and technology experts.
In March, Dartmouth charged 17 students with cheating based on a review of certain online activity data on Canvas — a popular learning management system where professors post assignments and students submit their work — during remote exams. The school quickly dropped seven of the cases after at least two students argued that administrators had mistaken automated Canvas activity for human cheating.
Now Dartmouth is also dropping allegations against the remaining 10 students, some of whom faced expulsion, suspension, course failures and misconduct marks on their academic records that could have derailed their medical careers.
“I have decided to dismiss all the honor code charges,” Duane A. Compton, the dean of the medical school, said in an email to the Geisel community on Wednesday evening, adding that the students’ academic records would not be affected. “I have apologized to the students for what they have been through.”
Dartmouth’s decision to dismiss the charges followed a software review by The New York Times, which found that students’ devices could automatically generate Canvas activity data even when no one was using them. Dartmouth’s practices were condemned by some alumni along with some faculty at other medical schools.
A Dartmouth spokesman said the school could not comment further on the dropping of the charges for privacy reasons. The school’s agreements with the students who had been accused are not yet final, and the students did not immediately return requests for comment.
The cheating investigation turned the pastoral Ivy League campus into a national battleground over escalating school surveillance during the pandemic.
While many universities, including Dartmouth, require students to use special software that locks down their devices during remote exams, Geisel went further by using a second system, Canvas, to retroactively track student activity during remote exams without their knowledge. That was unusual because Canvas was not designed as a forensic tool.
Technology experts said Dartmouth’s use of Canvas raised questions. While some students may have cheated, these experts said, it would be difficult for school administrators to distinguish cheating from noncheating based on the kind of Canvas data snapshots that Dartmouth used.
The case was also notable for Dartmouth’s procedures after the students were accused.
Some of the accused students said Dartmouth had hamstrung their ability to defend themselves. They had less than 48 hours to respond to the charges, were not provided complete data logs for the exams, and were advised to plead guilty though they denied cheating or were given just two minutes to make their cases in online hearings, according to interviews with six of the students and a review of documents.
In an interview in April, Dr. Compton said the school’s methods for identifying possible cheating were fair and valid. Administrators, he said, provided accused students with all the data on which the cheating charges were based. He denied that the student affairs office had advised those who said they had not cheated to plead guilty.
In his email on Wednesday, he took a different tone.
“As we look to the future, we must ensure fairness in our honor code review process, especially in an academic environment that includes more remote learning,” Dr. Compton wrote. “We will learn from this and we will do better.”
Dartmouth Medical School Drops Online Cheating Cases Against Students (Published 2021)
The Ivy League school said it was dismissing allegations that students had looked up online course materials during remote exams.
Updated NYT Article. Text Below. Emphasis mine:
"Dartmouth’s Geisel School of Medicine says it is dropping an online cheating investigation that led the school to erroneously accuse some students, allegations that prompted an outcry among faculty, alumni and technology experts.
In March, Dartmouth charged 17 students with cheating based on a review of certain online activity data on Canvas — a popular learning management system where professors post assignments and students submit their work — during remote exams. The school quickly dropped seven of the cases after at least two students argued that administrators had mistaken automated Canvas activity for human cheating.
Now Dartmouth is also dropping allegations against the remaining 10 students, some of whom faced expulsion, suspension, course failures and misconduct marks on their academic records that could have derailed their medical careers.
“I have decided to dismiss all the honor code charges,” Duane A. Compton, the dean of the medical school, said in an email to the Geisel community on Wednesday evening, adding that the students’ academic records would not be affected. “I have apologized to the students for what they have been through.”
Dartmouth’s decision to dismiss the charges followed a software review by The New York Times, which found that students’ devices could automatically generate Canvas activity data even when no one was using them. Dartmouth’s practices were condemned by some alumni along with some faculty at other medical schools.
A Dartmouth spokesman said the school could not comment further on the dropping of the charges for privacy reasons. The school’s agreements with the students who had been accused are not yet final, and the students did not immediately return requests for comment.
The cheating investigation turned the pastoral Ivy League campus into a national battleground over escalating school surveillance during the pandemic.
While many universities, including Dartmouth, require students to use special software that locks down their devices during remote exams, Geisel went further by using a second system, Canvas, to retroactively track student activity during remote exams without their knowledge. That was unusual because Canvas was not designed as a forensic tool.
Technology experts said Dartmouth’s use of Canvas raised questions. While some students may have cheated, these experts said, it would be difficult for school administrators to distinguish cheating from noncheating based on the kind of Canvas data snapshots that Dartmouth used.
The case was also notable for Dartmouth’s procedures after the students were accused.
Some of the accused students said Dartmouth had hamstrung their ability to defend themselves. They had less than 48 hours to respond to the charges, were not provided complete data logs for the exams, and were advised to plead guilty though they denied cheating or were given just two minutes to make their cases in online hearings, according to interviews with six of the students and a review of documents.
In an interview in April, Dr. Compton said the school’s methods for identifying possible cheating were fair and valid. Administrators, he said, provided accused students with all the data on which the cheating charges were based. He denied that the student affairs office had advised those who said they had not cheated to plead guilty.
In his email on Wednesday, he took a different tone.
“As we look to the future, we must ensure fairness in our honor code review process, especially in an academic environment that includes more remote learning,” Dr. Compton wrote. “We will learn from this and we will do better.”
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Dartmouth's commit deadline was yesterday, 6/15. If you haven't heard by the end of the week, that might be it. Good luck!
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Nope, nothing for me. I was trying to hold out hope for an acceptance here, but I’m thinking it’s not going to happen ☹️
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I'll just be forward an say that a 480 will unfortunately keep you out of both MD and DO schools. You need to score around a 500 to be competitive for DO and ideally a 510+ for MD schools. You obviously have a lot of great experiences but everything outside of numbers (GPA and MCAT) don't mean a lot until you have metrics within the ranges schools are looking for. The good news is you still can get into med school, but you will have to retake the MCAT with a goal of at least 500 if you are okay with DO. For MD you will want a score considerably higher than that. Good luck!
