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[SpideyMD]

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This might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlist

yeah what is UC

 

[Julatteluver]

This might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlist

They used to have UC which ultimately became AL in the spring, but now it's just AL starting this cycle (or last cycle).

 

[bearbent]

They used to have UC which ultimately became AL in the spring, but now it's just AL starting this cycle (or last cycle).

Thank you!!

 

[neonatalorthopedicsurgeon]

Is attendance necessary for the "Advising Dean's Presentation and Student Panel?"

 

[internally_brilliant]

Is attendance necessary for the "Advising Dean's Presentation and Student Panel?"

No but if you want you can go to a different one if you email and ask

 

[neonatalorthopedicsurgeon]

No but if you want you can go to a different one if you email and ask

Thank you!

 

[DPT_2_MD]

II last night at 7:00pm!? OOS, already have an IS A so probably will withdraw - good luck all!

 

[Premed-person2515]

II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug

 

[sosmedicine]

II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug

Congrats, would you mind sharing how far out they're scheduling right now?

 

[RNtoDO_]

Rejected. Submitted in like august.

 

[Badger 2001]

II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug

For some odd reason when I was reading this and you put "Asian," that just made me giggle. Congratulations on the II. They get over 13000 applications and to even be considered for an II means they see something they like.

 

[lu73]

Pre-II R in my spam a few mins ago, completed mid-August, IS. Good luck everyone!

 

[monkeynuts]

II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug

For some odd reason when I was reading this and you put "Asian," that just made me giggle. Congratulations on the II. They get over 13000 applications and to even be considered for an II means they see something they like.

Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄

 

[TiramisuLover99]

Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄

Omg okay thank you for clarifying that lol. I actually didn't know if it stands for Over/Under Represented Minority or Over/Under Represented in Medicine.

 

[ElGaucho09]

Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority

Per AAMC Equity, diversity, and inclusion it's actually ____ represented in *medicine. I agree with your end point though, racially whites are close to represented population wise.

 

[fxryker]

Per AAMC Equity, diversity, and inclusion it's actually ____ represented in *medicine. I agree with your end point though, racially whites are close to represented population wise.

Correct, whites are represented in medicine (RM):

 

[TiramisuLover99]

Correct, whites are represented in medicine (RM):
View attachment 365875

So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?

 

[fxryker]

So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?

Race​	U.S. Census Data (%)​	AAMC Active Physician Data (%)​	Status​
Asian	6.1​	17.1​	Overrepresented in Medicine​
Black	13.6​	5.0​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Hispanic or Latino	18.9​	5.8​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Native American	1.3​	0.3​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Native Hawaiian	0.3​	0.1​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
White	59.3​	56.2​	Represented in Medicine​

 

[ElGaucho09]

So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?

Feel free for anyone to chime in but my understanding is that you get into the semantics when discussing representation. It varies from one school to the next but my basic understanding is that the goal is to have practicing physicians be representative of the general population. I believe that a good example would be black men as under represented in medicine. It's been a while since I've looked at the numbers but I believe about 2% of practicing physicians are black men. Because about 6% of the population in the US identify as a black man, they are thus underrepresented in medicine.

 

[ElGaucho09]

5% and 13.6%

I mentioned black men in medicine. The data are not stratified by gender as far as I could see but that is a good example.

 

[fxryker]

I mentioned black men in medicine. The data are not stratified by gender as far as I could see but that is a good example.

Apologies, reply deleted.

 

[throwaway198773]

Race​	U.S. Census Data (%)​	AAMC Active Physician Data (%)​	Status​
Asian	6.1​	17.1​	Overrepresented in Medicine​
Black	13.6​	5.0​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Hispanic or Latino	18.9​	5.8​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Native American	1.3​	0.3​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
Native Hawaiian	0.3​	0.1​	Underrepresented in Medicine​
White	59.3​	56.2​	Represented in Medicine​

Would love to see statistics like these expanded so we don’t lump together the entire Asian continent. But if I remember correctly you can specify on the primary.

 

[pv90377]

Adcoms compositions themselves are probably lopsided with ORM(more asians of specific region as example), biases shows in interviews handed out to applicants and acceptances. Schools justify these selections as higher stats and so forth.

 

[monkeynuts]

Omg okay thank you for clarifying that lol. I actually didn't know if it stands for Over/Under Represented Minority or Over/Under Represented in Medicine.

No problem! I think most ppl have the same issue, since the majority of WAMC posts identify themselves as ORM. I was like, "Have white kids not discovered sdn yet?" at first.

 

[TiramisuLover99]

Adcoms compositions themselves are probably lopsided with ORM(more asians of specific region as example), biases shows in interviews handed out to applicants and acceptances. Schools justify these selections as higher stats and so forth.

Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?

 

[SpideyMD]

Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?

F

 

[s517896]

Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?

AAMC data says so... look at the average of asian matriculants GPA and MCAT compared to others.

https://www.aamc.org/media/6066/download?attachment

 

[TiramisuLover99]

AAMC data says so... look at the average of asian matriculants GPA and MCAT compared to others.

https://www.aamc.org/media/6066/download?attachment

Hmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?

 

[SpideyMD]

Hmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?

 

[ManjuMonster]

Can anyone shed a light on whether I should start worrying about Albany? I interviewed in September, was put on the AL in October, and haven't heard a peep since.

When Albany said 90% of the class comes from the AL, does it mostly consist of people who were taken off the AL before April or after April?

 

[Happy Bulbis Cordis]

Can anyone shed a light on whether I should start worrying about Albany? I interviewed in September, was put on the AL in October, and haven't heard a peep since.

When Albany said 90% of the class comes from the AL, does it mostly consist of people who were taken off the AL before April or after April?

I wouldn't expect significant movement until the AMCAS traffic days. This goes for all schools.

 

[ElGaucho09]

what are you considering traffic days? 4/30?

Not OP but yeah 4/30 for commit to enroll is the main one. From prior year's threads it looks like there's a lot of movement the first week of May because people basically have to have their acceptances narrowed down to one. It also looks like there were some acceptances in the third and fourth week of February in years past. Hopefully that holds true this year too!

 

[superdesperate]

Hmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?

bold of you to assume that this process was ever meant to be fair and equitable lmao

 

[pv90377]

Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?

Unless adcom composition become equal weight from orm for a specific group/region within Asians, that specific group would continue to overwhelm Asian pool and be beneficiary in applicant interviews and acceptances and matriculations. Even though AMCAS publishes the ORM results each year, equal weight remedy is unlikely to occur in near future. Some colleges are better at this than others. People do not discuss much about adcom compositions but they eventually are decision makers in terms of interviews given out and acceptances. Keeping all else in consideration such as socio economic status, experiences, stats, and such of applicants.

 

[Striatum14]

Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄

M stands for medicine. Over/underrepresented in medicine.

 

[vikik]

II, OOS, complete mid July. LizzyM 67. Interview dates available for me were at the start of March!

 

[mrsbehindthemd]

II, OOS, complete mid July. Interview dates available for me were at the start of March!

Stats please?! I have heard silence from these guys. I’m holding onto a thread!

 

[premed3556]

Has Albany sent pre-II R’s?

 

[ElGaucho09]

A few! Check post #625 and #627

 

[clsh1234]

Received II yesterday, wondering if it's even worth interviewing given that its so late in the application cycle

 

[SpideyMD]

Received II yesterday, wondering if it's even worth interviewing given that its so late in the application cycle

Where do you guys get this stuff?

 

[clsh1234]

Where do you guys get this stuff?

it's a known fact that most medical schools operate on rolling admissions. so the later in the cycle you interview, the less of a chance you have of getting accepted.

 

[SpideyMD]

it's a known fact that most medical schools operate on rolling admissions. so the later in the cycle you interview, the less of a chance you have of getting accepted.

Do you think you would have a better chance of admission if you did or did not interview? Is that your question? What do you mean is it worth it? If you are interested in the program in any way shape or form then it is obviously worth it..

 

[flyon_littlewing9587]

Well your chances are >0 % if you accept and they are 0% if you don’t.

 

[happy_squidward]

Any idea when we should expect to hear back about scholarships?

 

[scaredpremedgui]

Does anyone know if I'm supposed to get an email confirmation after scheduling my interview date? Just paranoid because this website looks like it was built 20 years ago.

 

[ElGaucho09]

I did not receive one! I did get additional info about five days after scheduling and even more a few days before the interview.

 

[HP2014]

AL received via email this morning. Interviewed 1/30. LM 71. OOS. Shocked to receive decision this early since they told us 4-6 weeks and said likely would be 6 weeks.

 

[internally_brilliant]

AL interview 2/1 OOS LM 68

 

[wannabeadoc29]

has there been any movement from the alternate list?