CHOOSE YOUR OWWN II - Game Thread

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Zenge142 said:
The behavior in general of bringing up the option to role reveal the affiliation role picks, seemed pro village at the time. Driving that conversation felt like a villager thing to do.

In retrospect it monopolized a lot of the conversation without a lot of benefits for village, but it does help scum figure out which roles are not in the game and what they don’t need to be concerned about.

This retrospective view gives me pause. Coupled with the increase in activity in a way I’m not used to seeing has me re-evaluating and keeping a closer eye than I felt like I needed to initially.
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This feels scummy to me
 
Chaostrodon said:
Its more bc the alignment role she claimed seemed to fit in with something that she may have wanted to look back at the list so as to not reveal any info to the alien faction
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Bugs me a bit because he moved off of voting vis before she actually revealed. And then retrospectively said the post prior sounded village...based on her later reveal.

Idk. Weird vibes, weird vibes. The chaos/vis interactions are pinging me in general but the ones prior to this where they were arguing about...statistics or whatever...don't seem manufactured? Hmm.
 
WildZoo said:
This is fair (in particular I did not track that he hadn't mentioned stagg prior) but this

is kind of what I had in my head when I was reading back. Voting with your village reads seems reasonable with less than an hour to close and a believable reveal from the person you were previously voting for.
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So you don't know what to do so you sheep the votes of someone you trust? Is that right?
 
WildZoo said:
I've also had some misgivings about chaos as I'm reading through. I'm getting the impression that it was kind of all he talked about, along with general theory about how this game structure works, and not so much about reads on people until much later. I know he posted a reads list around here somewhere, need to find it again.

And also just came across a post from earlier today...or later yesterday...idk been skipping around a bit. He gave coop some village points for flipping off of wonder? Just felt odd, it was before her reveal, coop was (I thought) obviously only on the vote as a joke to begin with, so it wasn't like she was moving because wonder was in the lead, it was because the joke had played out.

Anyway he's moving up into neutrals for me.
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Oh yeah to clarify I legit only voted wonder to piss you off. Then I invited wonder because I had zero intention of voting wonder
 
Coopah said:
So you don't know what to do so you sheep the votes of someone you trust? Is that right?
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It was more than just sheeping blindly. I’ve been clear on this point. But generally feeling good about you and okay about Alley was a factor in my decision certainly.

You can’t dislike my voting with you, and then also attack me for taking into account my feelings about who I would be voting with when making the decision of where to place my vote.

That’s a double standard.
 
WildZoo said:
She doesn't feel as engaged with the game as I'm used to, doesn't seem to be reacting to things the normal way. Could just be she's busy but it's my initial reaction.
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Yes you are right I am not. I worked 85 hours last week and 65 hours this week, and that doesn’t include general reading/studying/questions at home. I almost forgot about the game entirely and I was lucky I remembered like 32 hours after it started.
vetschoolsletmeinplease said:
hi yall! catching up after errands and house cleaning this morning/afternoon.


adding to this, do we know how parity works for the factions? like if there are 2 mafia and 2 wolf, does that make 4 parity or 2 parity
i guess can they theoretically win together?
i know it doesn't do much for actually figuring out who's who, but it's nice to know how close we are to marvolo lol




why? i'm going w the explanation of pure joke for now- but what made you flip towny on it?

like i guess but idk if i'd town lean her just for that





curious as to why WZ was in your village leans instead of like a seperate neutral category?


but see i don't think she's doing that. when i woofed w visc (granted they were SUPER busy at the time) it was more speculation and wall posts, not as much getting into the action like we've seen here. I'm town leaning visc for now

overall i'm not vibing w z's reads as much as i normally do when he's village which makes me nervous



similarly, i've given a single village point to anyone who claimed an affil role besides vanilla, and no points either way for those who did. my logic being is that it's bold to claim something that could be refuted by someone else

this is very helpful
so hm
maybe half a village point to those with abilities instead bc there are still caps lol




i love when shorty and z get sassy on the thread. its fun to picture them ww'ing while like putting together place cards for the wedding and having a very sassy interaction here and a pleasant conversation at the same time irl



to be fair she's asked nearly everyone for reads, just asked multiple times from people who haven't given like comprehensive ones yet




this interaction between dubz and shorty is feeling a little more v/v to me






i here!!!!



im not understanding the visc sus



also im feeling worse about sunny now. someone voted there and sunny didn't react in the way i expect village sunny to, which pings me as trying to get attention away from the vote which is not normally how that goes
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I reacted to her posts with “okays” and “laughs”. But as far as “not” being reactive towards the vote, I had already posted about her before she even voted me. I didn’t see the need to repeat myself, especially when she was someone being widely read as playing in a goofy way. Didn’t think it would catch on and only planned to care if it somehow magically did.
Dr. ForgotToFlush said:
2 town vs 2 mafia is a mafia win
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Okay but what if there are 3 town, 2 mafia, 2 wolves left?
Dinashadow said:
This is an interesting point regarding sunny, but she's also posting a lot less than I'm used to seeing, so I'm not sure if that factors into how much she is/isn't reacting to things. I haven't really been able to form a read on her yet this game.
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You are right. But that’s what starting residency does.
WildZoo said:
Hmm. Yes busy, and I give her that for the sparcity of her reads, but I don't so much track why that would change how she reacts to being scum read.
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Well so far I’m mostly neutral to village read except for you and coop, who I already ranked in the “concerned” category, which is the strongest I have on anyone yet.

I did think it was funny that I was reconsidering you since you were seeing the Visc sus, but then you somehow slid me in there without an explanation so LOL
 
Zenge142 said:
It was more than just sheeping blindly. I’ve been clear on this point. But generally feeling good about you and okay about Alley was a factor in my decision certainly.

You can’t dislike my voting with you, and then also attack me for taking into account my feelings about who I would be voting with when making the decision of where to place my vote.

That’s a double standard.
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Hi you know you're not replying to me rn, right?
 
Coopah said:
I don't really like it. For whatever reason you can't vote your #1 then vote your #2. I disagree with the sentiment. It's one thing to be persuaded and believe a person but not to sheep because times running out. Gives me weird vibes.
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Guess that depends on whether you have a good #2 read lined up and whether it's a viable vote
 
sunshinefl said:
Yes you are right I am not. I worked 85 hours last week and 65 hours this week, and that doesn’t include general reading/studying/questions at home. I almost forgot about the game entirely and I was lucky I remembered like 32 hours after it started.

I reacted to her posts with “okays” and “laughs”. But as far as “not” being reactive towards the vote, I had already posted about her before she even voted me. I didn’t see the need to repeat myself, especially when she was someone being widely read as playing in a goofy way. Didn’t think it would catch on and only planned to care if it somehow magically did.

Okay but what if there are 3 town, 2 mafia, 2 wolves left?

You are right. But that’s what starting residency does.

Well so far I’m mostly neutral to village read except for you and coop, who I already ranked in the “concerned” category, which is the strongest I have on anyone yet.

I did think it was funny that I was reconsidering you since you were seeing the Visc sus, but then you somehow slid me in there without an explanation so LOL
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I'm sorry you've been busy. It doesn't tell me anything about your affiliation though (scum can be busy too) so just doing the best I can with what you're posting.
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Coop (2) - Zenge, Vis
dubz (2) - shorty, Dina
Vis (1) - sunshine
Dina (1) - dubz
sunshine (1) - Coop

7/11
yeet close in ~24 hours
 
Zenge142 said:
It was more than just sheeping blindly. I’ve been clear on this point. But generally feeling good about you and okay about Alley was a factor in my decision certainly.

You can’t dislike my voting with you, and then also attack me for taking into account my feelings about who I would be voting with when making the decision of where to place my vote.

That’s a double standard.
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... Pretty sure your not talking to me there bud
 
WildZoo said:
I'm sorry you've been busy. It doesn't tell me anything about your affiliation though (scum can be busy too) so just doing the best I can with what you're posting.
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Okay and I get that, but being a resident is NAI
WildZoo said:
Mafia and wolves need to get rid of each other to win
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So what if there was 2 wolves, 2 mafia, 0 village? The game would keep going, and they wouldn’t even know village was gone?
 
cubsrule4e said:
I feel like she's holding back somewhat because she hasnt played in a while and doesnt want to draw too much attention right away and potentially get yeeted.
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Wait hold on. You were interpreting coop's posts yesterday as...not drawing attention to herself?
 
WildZoo said:
So, kinda disagree, mostly because I'm not at all seeing the forced casualness she was talking about with coop or why editing that post would be wolfy nerves and not completely NAI.

Her comment on cubs got an eyebrow raise from me since she herself acknowledged it was a joke, so why is she using it to give him scum points?

The only part that felt ok was the stagg comment and since he flipped condemner, meh.

I'm feeling worse about vis overall as I'm reading.
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Someone remind me to look over Vis again when I’m not intoxicated.

***And yes don’t judge but I’m drinking two nights in a row. I’m a college student visiting bars for the first time b/c of Covid***
 
supershorty said:
It’s a little strange to me, Dubz, that you’re comfortable town reading Zenge this early in the game. You haven’t been in the past, and he’s said some things and reacted in some ways that have really pinged me, so I’m curious what you’ve seen that’s making you willing to go there now.
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Ooh I like this point from shorty. Zenge has been giving me bad vibes recently. I wasn’t a huge fan of his reads list
 
Viscernable said:
How do you feel about wonder asking it? The question itself I feel is kind of pointless (both choices would give the same result for alley and she has to choose one so I don’t understand nitpicking which one she chose), but I can definitely see its value as a little pressure test. On the other hand, putting someone on the defensive trying to get them to justify their role choices looks like a good fishing technique. So I’m kinda split.
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Dude I was afraid I was going to say the wrong word (and like mix them up) and accidentally get stuck as a lover. I was so confused on my first roll trying to pick two of the options and I still worried on my 2nd and 3rd rolls that I would accidentally pick the wrong option. (AM and flushy probably hated me because I asked so many questions about all of my possible combinations). So me discarding the town nymphomaniac was me ensuring I didn’t end up as a lover somehow.
 
Zenge142 said:
My point about that specifically is that I don’t think scum would give up powerful roles over weaker scum roles, just to try and get village cred. Sunny finds it suspicious that I was unwilling to consider that possibility.

Generally I am more inclined to think village when seeing a strong scum role like that discarded but not guaranteed.

With regards to Chaos specifically, he’s in neutral. What concerns me, and why I feel the need to pay extra attention to his interactions (scum lean) is that I’m not used to seeing his level of involvement be this high. Being outside of what I’m used to seeing makes me want to watch more closely. But I certainly don’t want to condemn him for increasing his participation level.
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I don’t think level of participation should be used to indicate whether or not someone is scum. Unless it was something special where someone had 3 posts a day as scum and 29 posts a day as village
 
alleycat03 said:
I don’t think level of participation should be used to indicate whether or not someone is scum. Unless it was something special where someone had 3 posts a day as scum and 29 posts a day as village
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I’m not using it to say he’s scum. It’s just different from what I’m used to seeing, and so he’s in my neutrals for monitoring to see if this difference in play style is a village/scum difference or just happenstance.
 
supershorty said:
Please tell me I’m misunderstanding and you aren’t really saying that you’re basing a town read of Zenge just on Cray sussing him.
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Yeah I don’t agree with that at all. Remember when cray shot Zenge in England because she was so sure he was suspicious?
 
Zenge142 said:
I’m not using it to say he’s scum. It’s just different from what I’m used to seeing, and so he’s in my neutrals for monitoring to see if this difference in play style is a village/scum difference or just happenstance.
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I get that, but I think his other actions have done more to suggest he’s village than his activity
 
Coopah said:
... Before being noted as edited?

Dude this reasoning makes literally no sense to me. Like ok you're a nervous wolf. But how does projecting that to a fluff post mean anything at all? Why would it matter that I can't spell opthalmology (did I do it right?!) It literally wouldn't. So I'm confused how you got there. You're telling me right now and it is just not computing.
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Nope.

Fake yeet Coops
 
vetschoolsletmeinplease said:
also im feeling worse about sunny now. someone voted there and sunny didn't react in the way i expect village sunny to, which pings me as trying to get attention away from the vote which is not normally how that goes
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Hmmmm. This makes me contemplate things because sunny is usually quite indignant when someone votes for her.
 
vetschoolsletmeinplease said:
i love when shorty and z get sassy on the thread. its fun to picture them ww'ing while like putting together place cards for the wedding and having a very sassy interaction here and a pleasant conversation at the same time irl
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I also picture this and I laugh because they’re probably just sitting on the opposite sides of their couch, typing away and arguing on thread.
 
Reading back on all this Vis stuff she is starting to approach scum territory. But Dubbie still just feels so way off. Chaos and Coop still in the mix. The dubz 4 hour monologue struck me as odd earlier today... i dont ever see her really doing the post by post approach vs larger cohesive publications. It was almost like she was trying to make up for "lack of content" that people had called her out for not providing yesterday. And there was a lot of pro-cubs posting/potential pocketing thrown in there as well. Normally village dubz likes to push me. Then she used all of that to finally make it a 3 way tie putting vis in the mix... which I dont necessarily disagree with that vote at this point, but lets put her in the lead for the time being and keep the heat on.

vote dubz
 
WildZoo said:
Bugs me a bit because he moved off of voting vis before she actually revealed. And then retrospectively said the post prior sounded village...based on her later reveal.

Idk. Weird vibes, weird vibes. The chaos/vis interactions are pinging me in general but the ones prior to this where they were arguing about...statistics or whatever...don't seem manufactured? Hmm.
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Wanting to look back before a reveal itself sounded somewhat towny to me , so I moved off. But there was a possibility that she actually wanted to consult with her team or something.

I didnt start hard townreading her until after the reveal , because it fit in with the reason given
 
Vote cubsrule, coz I still havent had a satisfactory explanation so far
 
Zenge142 said:
The behavior in general of bringing up the option to role reveal the affiliation role picks, seemed pro village at the time. Driving that conversation felt like a villager thing to do.

In retrospect it monopolized a lot of the conversation without a lot of benefits for village, but it does help scum figure out which roles are not in the game and what they don’t need to be concerned about.

This retrospective view gives me pause. Coupled with the increase in activity in a way I’m not used to seeing has me re-evaluating and keeping a closer eye than I felt like I needed to initially.
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Most investigative roles in the game tends to have atleast 2 of each. What sort of useful info do you think scum has from the reveals we have had so far? I cant think of any that would make scum modify their playstyle or actions or concerns somehow

Also , I think the exercise has been pretty beneficial to town. I was able to get a few early likely town pings.
And if I remember correctly . quite a few people were sus of Stagg based on his response to being asked to claim his alignment and he turned out to be non town.
 
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