CHOOSE YOUR OWWN II - Game Thread

[supershorty]

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Yeah I don’t agree with that at all. Remember when cray shot Zenge in England because she was so sure he was suspicious?

He was village in England though. That goes with what Dubz was saying.

I also picture this and I laugh because they’re probably just sitting on the opposite sides of their couch, typing away and arguing on thread.

This is pretty accurate. Sometimes it’s punctuated by an out loud “shorty pls”

 

[Coopah]

Nope.

Fake yeet Coops

****

 

[WildZoo]

Reading back on all this Vis stuff she is starting to approach scum territory. But Dubbie still just feels so way off. Chaos and Coop still in the mix. The dubz 4 hour monologue struck me as odd earlier today... i dont ever see her really doing the post by post approach vs larger cohesive publications. It was almost like she was trying to make up for "lack of content" that people had called her out for not providing yesterday. And there was a lot of pro-cubs posting/potential pocketing thrown in there as well. Normally village dubz likes to push me. Then she used all of that to finally make it a 3 way tie putting vis in the mix... which I dont necessarily disagree with that vote at this point, but lets put her in the lead for the time being and keep the heat on.

vote dubz

I love waking up to bull**** in the morning

1. My style has not been lengthy posts in a very long time, especially not when I'm catching up on the thread
2. My "lack of content" was because I skimmed a lot of the thread on Friday while I was driving most of the day. Like I said yesterday. And I was rereading the early parts of the thread because of that.
3. I don't recall having a pattern of pushing you when I'm village. Pretty sure that was more of a thing when I was scum actually, and you've called me out for it before.
4. Nice tie break towards a villager

Feel free to keep the heat on but I'm about to be driving again so don't expect it to do anything for you.

 

[Coopah]

Reading back on all this Vis stuff she is starting to approach scum territory. But Dubbie still just feels so way off. Chaos and Coop still in the mix. The dubz 4 hour monologue struck me as odd earlier today... i dont ever see her really doing the post by post approach vs larger cohesive publications. It was almost like she was trying to make up for "lack of content" that people had called her out for not providing yesterday. And there was a lot of pro-cubs posting/potential pocketing thrown in there as well. Normally village dubz likes to push me. Then she used all of that to finally make it a 3 way tie putting vis in the mix... which I dont necessarily disagree with that vote at this point, but lets put her in the lead for the time being and keep the heat on.

vote dubz

So just to clarify.

Since dubz was unavailable yesterday and caught up today, along with thinking you have good reasoning (which I seem to remember you winning the best post that no one listened to last game) you think she's wolfy?

 

[Coopah]

I love waking up to bull**** in the morning

1. My style has not been lengthy posts in a very long time, especially not when I'm catching up on the thread
2. My "lack of content" was because I skimmed a lot of the thread on Friday while I was driving most of the day. Like I said yesterday. And I was rereading the early parts of the thread because of that.
3. I don't recall having a pattern of pushing you when I'm village. Pretty sure that was more of a thing when I was scum actually, and you've called me out for it before.
4. Nice tie break towards a villager

Feel free to keep the heat on but I'm about to be driving again so don't expect it to do anything for you.

****ing damn it woman! You got me back

 

[supershorty]

I’m really struggling to feel at ease with the amount of soft buddying I’m seeing with Zenge and Dubz’s reads of each other, particularly her early town read of him. It’s out of character for her.

For comparison, I went back and pulled some quotes from games where they were either v/v or v/w at roughly the same time point in the game (the Stickmin quotes might be a touch later). These are relatively recent games - I didn’t want to pull a game from 6 months ago because people learn to read each other better over time, obviously. But you can see that Dubz has previously been much more hesitant to call Zenge a town lean than she has been in this game so far.

This one was fairly early in a game where Zenge was wolfing. He had put her in his reads as village side of neutral, and said that he was feeling village vibes from her and Cray, but wouldn’t move them out of neutral that early. It’s consistent with his behavior here too, but that’s a read I think most people would have of those players. It’s Dubz’s response that is more interesting to look at:

Now I can't decide if zenge is trying to pocket me so that's good

These next 2 are from a game where they were v/v.

zenge - also kind of want to village read him but I'm afraid of pockets. His tone has felt like village zenge, as have his reads lists and justifications. He's lurky but not in a suspicious way so far.

I like most of these reads and reasonings I GUESS

This was in response to a reads list with explanations that he’d posted. To that point, her read of him had pretty much been what’s in the quote above this one - cautiously village but not quite willing to go there.

This is actually a w/w interaction after Zenge and Vis had converted Dubz. Edited to correct that.

Zenge is still in neutral because he makes me nervous and I need to remind myself to constantly reevaluate. I've never had real pings from him any of the times he's been scum and I'm worried about being pocketed.

I don’t know. Maybe Dubz had an epiphany before this game and got a Zenge Reading Card that gives her the utmost clarity. But he’s always been a baseline sketchy player, who she has previously hesitated to commit to that village read (even in games where, IMO, his play was much more clearly pro-village than it’s been in this game so far), and that change weirds me out. The justification for it doesn’t make me feel much better (pulling one post of his and that’s it), but I know that was incomplete because she’d said that. I’m still waiting to see any of the kinds of pushes I’d expect from village!Zenge, because right now it seems like he’s kind of coasting. Of the 2 of them, I feel worse about Dubz than him just because I feel like this could be her pocketing him and it’s so out of character for D2 village!Dubz, but they’re both in my POE.

 

[Viscernable]

This is an interesting point regarding sunny, but she's also posting a lot less than I'm used to seeing, so I'm not sure if that factors into how much she is/isn't reacting to things. I haven't really been able to form a read on her yet this game.

It interests me too, but but sunny isn’t a “hide and don’t react to things or push back” kind of wolf. Usually I’d expect her to get more pushy when under pressure as a wolf if anything. Not to say she wouldn’t switch up her style especially when she’s so busy, but I’m not seeing it as wolfy yet.

 

[alleycat03]

Reading back on all this Vis stuff she is starting to approach scum territory. But Dubbie still just feels so way off. Chaos and Coop still in the mix. The dubz 4 hour monologue struck me as odd earlier today... i dont ever see her really doing the post by post approach vs larger cohesive publications. It was almost like she was trying to make up for "lack of content" that people had called her out for not providing yesterday. And there was a lot of pro-cubs posting/potential pocketing thrown in there as well. Normally village dubz likes to push me. Then she used all of that to finally make it a 3 way tie putting vis in the mix... which I dont necessarily disagree with that vote at this point, but lets put her in the lead for the time being and keep the heat on.

vote dubz

I’m not disagreeing with your logic or vote, but also wasn’t Dubz like the #2 poster in this thread yesterday? (I haven’t checked yet today). So I’m not sure your point about “lack of content” is accurate, because she’s been pretty active on thread even though she said she’s been busy. Also idk if it’s actually a good idea to judge her affiliation based on PbPA instead of 1 large catch-up post?

 

[alleycat03]

... Before being noted as edited?

Dude this reasoning makes literally no sense to me. Like ok you're a nervous wolf. But how does projecting that to a fluff post mean anything at all? Why would it matter that I can't spell opthalmology (did I do it right?!) It literally wouldn't. So I'm confused how you got there. You're telling me right now and it is just not computing.

You did not do it right

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Coop (2) - Zenge, Vis
dubz (3) - shorty, Dina, cubs
Vis (2) - sunshine, DubZ
Dina ()
sunshine (1) - Coop
cubs (1) - chaos

9/11
yeet close in ~13.5 hours

missing: @alleycat03 @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Oh dang I did not realize please and I were the only people who hadn’t voted yet.

He was village in England though. That goes with what Dubz was saying.

This is pretty accurate. Sometimes it’s punctuated by an out loud “shorty pls”

Ohhhhh yeah my brain didn’t get that connection. Still really do not like that that was the main basis of her village read on zenge

 

[supershorty]

I hope we see more from @Dinashadow and @sunshinefl today. Looking at the total number of posts on the thread, they’re both the lowest with ~6x fewer posts than the highest poster.

 

[supershorty]

You did not do it right

Oh dang I did not realize please and I were the only people who hadn’t voted yet.

Ohhhhh yeah my brain didn’t get that connection. Still really do not like that that was the main basis of her village read on zenge

I think it was a joke. I’m not comfortable with her read either, but there’s no way that’s ACTUALLY her main justification.

 

[Viscernable]

I’m hesitant to read Sunny this way on participation. It’s my understanding she’s currently very busy and that we shouldn’t expect the same level of participation we’re used to.

I don’t think the point was about amount of participation, but rather the kind of participation. There wasn’t much anger over being voted. I’m not seeing it as scummy because she did react how I’d expect but in a more muted way (just okays/laughs and one dismissive post), which makes sense when she’s so busy and with her explanation of why she didn’t feel the need to take coop’s vote too seriously:

What Cubs logic?

...what?

I explained it in the very quote you posted. He’s handing out town cred I don’t agree with and don’t think he would if he was town.

Was already suspecting coop before seeing vote (she could have been lying about this and made a retaliatory post pretending it wasn’t retaliatory, but I don’t see a reason to think that happened)

LOL at Coo’s contribution now that she “got serious”

Did react to the vote dismissively and call attention to it

I reacted to her posts with “okays” and “laughs”. But as far as “not” being reactive towards the vote, I had already posted about her before she even voted me. I didn’t see the need to repeat myself, especially when she was someone being widely read as playing in a goofy way. Didn’t think it would catch on and only planned to care if it somehow magically did.

Explanation

 

[alleycat03]

I’m feeling a tiny bit better about coop today based on her more recent activity, but I would like to see more effort and scum hunting from her. I don’t like how scummy Dubz is being (I mentioned her other sus stuff before briefly), but the Zenge buddying that shorty just pointed out made me feel even worse about her. Vis could go either way at this point. I need to iso her once I wake up more (and maybe take a nap, I only got like 6 hours of sleep) but I would consider voting there if she seems scummier than Dubz after my ISO of her.

For now, I am trusting shorty and Dina (a village read and slight village lean) and voting with them.

###Yeet Dubz###

 

[supershorty]

Do keep in mind that it’ll hammer at 6 votes. I’d like to maximize our chances for discussion today, so I just want to remind everyone of that.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Coop (2) - Zenge, Vis
dubz (4) - shorty, Dina, cubs, alley
Vis (2) - sunshine, DubZ
Dina () -
sunshine (1) - Coop
cubs (1) - chaos

10/11
yeet close in ~11 hours

missing: please

 

[WildZoo]

I’m really struggling to feel at ease with the amount of soft buddying I’m seeing with Zenge and Dubz’s reads of each other, particularly her early town read of him. It’s out of character for her.

For comparison, I went back and pulled some quotes from games where they were either v/v or v/w at roughly the same time point in the game (the Stickmin quotes might be a touch later). These are relatively recent games - I didn’t want to pull a game from 6 months ago because people learn to read each other better over time, obviously. But you can see that Dubz has previously been much more hesitant to call Zenge a town lean than she has been in this game so far.

This one was fairly early in a game where Zenge was wolfing. He had put her in his reads as village side of neutral, and said that he was feeling village vibes from her and Cray, but wouldn’t move them out of neutral that early. It’s consistent with his behavior here too, but that’s a read I think most people would have of those players. It’s Dubz’s response that is more interesting to look at:


These next 3 are from a game where they were v/v.



This was in response to a reads list with explanations that he’d posted. To that point, her read of him had pretty much been what’s in the quote above this one - cautiously village but not quite willing to go there.


I don’t know. Maybe Dubz had an epiphany before this game and got a Zenge Reading Card that gives her the utmost clarity. But he’s always been a baseline sketchy player, who she has previously hesitated to commit to that village read (even in games where, IMO, his play was much more clearly pro-village than it’s been in this game so far), and that change weirds me out. The justification for it doesn’t make me feel much better (pulling one post of his and that’s it), but I know that was incomplete because she’d said that. I’m still waiting to see any of the kinds of pushes I’d expect from village!Zenge, because right now it seems like he’s kind of coasting. Of the 2 of them, I feel worse about Dubz than him just because I feel like this could be her pocketing him and it’s so out of character for D2 village!Dubz, but they’re both in my POE.

You are leaving out the context that I have now had the chance to wolf with him since those games, which changes my feelings about my ability to read him. Incidentally, that last quote of yours is from after I had been converted in baby animals.

I also had a very comfortable village read of him early on in madagascar, though I don't remember if I got a chance to say it on thread before he died.

But it is good to see that you are deep enough in your tunnel that everything I do is now evidence of wolfiness. I do suggest you direct your village energy elsewhere, but I know how hard it is to get out of a good tunnel once you find one.

 

[WildZoo]

I’m feeling a tiny bit better about coop today based on her more recent activity, but I would like to see more effort and scum hunting from her. I don’t like how scummy Dubz is being (I mentioned her other sus stuff before briefly), but the Zenge buddying that shorty just pointed out made me feel even worse about her. Vis could go either way at this point. I need to iso her once I wake up more (and maybe take a nap, I only got like 6 hours of sleep) but I would consider voting there if she seems scummier than Dubz after my ISO of her.

For now, I am trusting shorty and Dina (a village read and slight village lean) and voting with them.

###Yeet Dubz###

Putting me within two votes of hammer when I said I'd be driving for several hours is wonderful

 

[supershorty]

Incidentally, that last quote of yours is from after I had been converted in baby animals.

I have edited to correct that. My mistake.

 

[Dinashadow]

I’m really struggling to feel at ease with the amount of soft buddying I’m seeing with Zenge and Dubz’s reads of each other, particularly her early town read of him. It’s out of character for her.

I don’t know. Maybe Dubz had an epiphany before this game and got a Zenge Reading Card that gives her the utmost clarity. But he’s always been a baseline sketchy player, who she has previously hesitated to commit to that village read (even in games where, IMO, his play was much more clearly pro-village than it’s been in this game so far), and that change weirds me out. The justification for it doesn’t make me feel much better (pulling one post of his and that’s it), but I know that was incomplete because she’d said that. I’m still waiting to see any of the kinds of pushes I’d expect from village!Zenge, because right now it seems like he’s kind of coasting. Of the 2 of them, I feel worse about Dubz than him just because I feel like this could be her pocketing him and it’s so out of character for D2 village!Dubz, but they’re both in my POE.

I've been feeling the same way regarding seeing some kind of slight buddying/echoing between dubz and zenge

It'd be different if I understood the zenge village read, but I'm not seeing village zenge so far this game. Wonder vote was uninspiring, but meh I'll give him a D1 pass, but overall his wolf hunting has felt superficial to me. I don't really feel that pushiness and drive to pressure people that I'm used to seeing.

Plus some weird inconsistencies in his reads from last cycle to today that he's been questioned about already.

Regarding his vote on coop - very easy misyeet bait if she's village, a good choice for a wolf who wants to look like their wolf hunting imo. Of course this would hinge on the fact that she's village, which idk yet, but something I'm keeping in mind.

 

[Dinashadow]

I think overall I feel better about coop than I did yesterday and she's moved slightly less scum and zenge has moved to more scummy (scummier?)

 

[Zenge142]

I get that, but I think his other actions have done more to suggest he’s village than his activity

How do you feel about his vote for Cubs?

 

[Dinashadow]

I’m feeling a tiny bit better about coop today based on her more recent activity, but I would like to see more effort and scum hunting from her. I don’t like how scummy Dubz is being (I mentioned her other sus stuff before briefly), but the Zenge buddying that shorty just pointed out made me feel even worse about her. Vis could go either way at this point. I need to iso her once I wake up more (and maybe take a nap, I only got like 6 hours of sleep) but I would consider voting there if she seems scummier than Dubz after my ISO of her.

For now, I am trusting shorty and Dina (a village read and slight village lean) and voting with them.

###Yeet Dubz###

I mean I won't complain, but also you mentioned some of my posts pinged you yesterday, so I am a little confused why I'm in your village leans lol

 

[Zenge142]

Okay so can we talk about how you felt about placing your vote the same place mine was after you said this?

@Viscernable

 

[cubsrule4e]

Vote cubsrule, coz I still havent had a satisfactory explanation so far

lol get over it. Ive explained it 64 times. Then dubz even explained it again for you. And youre clearly not even at the top of my list right now. But the fact that you cant seem to let it go/continue to pretend you dont understand makes me feel like theres something to what I said, and maybe makes you feel like you have to keep "Defending" a point I made early-mid D1?

 

[supershorty]

Does this back and forth between cubs and Chaos remind anyone else of Chaos' interactions with LIS in Bioshock, or is it just me?

For context for the people who didn't play Bioshock: Chaos was village, LIS was a neutral with an inclusive wincon who was basically playing as village, and they squabbled for a few pages with scummy feels about each other.

 

[Dinashadow]

I hope we see more from @Dinashadow and @sunshinefl today. Looking at the total number of posts on the thread, they’re both the lowest with ~6x fewer posts than the highest poster.

Are you giving pleasy a pass?

 

[supershorty]

Are you giving pleasy a pass?

Ope. No. I missed her. @vetschoolsletmeinplease hope you'll be around more today too.

This is why I don't play on my phone very often, easier to miss things.

 

[Dinashadow]

Reading back on all this Vis stuff she is starting to approach scum territory. But Dubbie still just feels so way off. Chaos and Coop still in the mix. The dubz 4 hour monologue struck me as odd earlier today... i dont ever see her really doing the post by post approach vs larger cohesive publications. It was almost like she was trying to make up for "lack of content" that people had called her out for not providing yesterday. And there was a lot of pro-cubs posting/potential pocketing thrown in there as well. Normally village dubz likes to push me. Then she used all of that to finally make it a 3 way tie putting vis in the mix... which I dont necessarily disagree with that vote at this point, but lets put her in the lead for the time being and keep the heat on.

vote dubz

What are your thoughts on zenge?

 

[Dinashadow]

Does this back and forth between cubs and Chaos remind anyone else of Chaos' interactions with LIS in Bioshock, or is it just me?

Hmmm maybe, but what do you think that means? Do you think it's a 3P/V interaction lol?

 

[WildZoo]

To be honest I'm more than a little offended that you guys are somehow reading me more scummy than the person who was actively trying to die for an entire day and then finally decided to make a couple posts that were actually on topic before going back to trolling. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Vote cubsrule, coz I still havent had a satisfactory explanation so far

And actually, I'd like to get the class' thoughts on this. Everyone (well, mostly dina and chaos) was saying that my point about chaos asking for roles right out of the gate, being the high poster and telling us what we should/shouldnt be doing, and whatever else felt "manufactured." Does this continued attempt by chaos to have me explain things that I already have multiple times (plus dubz explaining it again for him) not fall into the "manufactured" category? Like Im somehow ignoring his request and that makes me scummy?

 

[supershorty]

Hmmm maybe, but what do you think that means? Do you think it's a 3P/V interaction lol?

I don't think it gives me any info on the cubs half of the interaction, it just reminds me of something I've seen village!Chaos do before. Particularly the repeated pressing for info that the other person feels that they already gave.

 

[supershorty]

To be honest I'm more than a little offended that you guys are somehow reading me more scummy than the person who was actively trying to die for an entire day and then finally decided to make a couple posts that were actually on topic before going back to trolling. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Are you scum reading Coop, then?

 

[Zenge142]

And actually, I'd like to get the class' thoughts on this. Everyone (well, mostly dina and chaos) was saying that my point about chaos asking for roles right out of the gate, being the high poster and telling us what we should/shouldnt be doing, and whatever else felt "manufactured." Does this continued attempt by chaos to have me explain things that I already have multiple times (plus dubz explaining it again for him) not fall into the "manufactured" category? Like Im somehow ignoring his request and that makes me scummy?

I wouldn’t have called it manufactured but it did monopolize the conversion in a way that I’m not sure was productive.

Regardless, I do feel like you’ve explained it so his continued tunnel here and vote on you has me concerned.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Does this back and forth between cubs and Chaos remind anyone else of Chaos' interactions with LIS in Bioshock, or is it just me?

For context for the people who didn't play Bioshock: Chaos was village, LIS was a neutral with an inclusive wincon who was basically playing as village, and they squabbled for a few pages with scummy feels about each other.

Im only talking about chaos right now when he continues to ask me to "explain" my initial read. Trust me, im done with that conversation at this point. It was like me and stagg going back and forth last game. Time for him to stop wasting time on a single point/player, and time for me to stop wasting time on a single question from a single player. And to your point about us going back and forth, Ive still clearly been active with other people as well.

 

[supershorty]

So just to clarify.

Since dubz was unavailable yesterday and caught up today, along with thinking you have good reasoning (which I seem to remember you winning the best post that no one listened to last game) you think she's wolfy?

I'm not fully following the point you're trying to make here. The "thinking you have good reasoning" feels like shade, but then the bolded part doesn't feel like it really fits with that. cubs won that superlative because he brought up the possibility of samac being converted, which was right (and no one listened).

 

[supershorty]

Im only talking about chaos right now when he continues to ask me to "explain" my initial read. Trust me, im done with that conversation at this point. It was like me and stagg going back and forth last game. Time for him to stop wasting time on a single point/player, and time for me to stop wasting time on a single question from a single player. And to your point about us going back and forth, Ive still clearly been active with other people as well.

I said above that I'm not getting much info on you from the interaction, but I think I'm getting info on him. It's not really factoring into my read of you.

 

[cubsrule4e]

So just to clarify.

Since dubz was unavailable yesterday and caught up today, along with thinking you have good reasoning (which I seem to remember you winning the best post that no one listened to last game) you think she's wolfy?

I didnt knock her for being unavailable, I just agreed with shorty in that when she did post it wasnt anything driving conversation or pushing people as her usual village. Im also used to longer block posts vs single post catch up reads, that was just something I noticed that was different. Her pro-cubs comments just seemed pockety to me personally, its something that I dont get from her a lot in a game (last game she modded when said made the best read no one listened to comment). Making the 3 way tie last night seemed kind of strange so I put her in the lead to see where that would go. Overall just getting a non village affiliation feel.

 

[supershorty]

You are leaving out the context that I have now had the chance to wolf with him since those games, which changes my feelings about my ability to read him. Incidentally, that last quote of yours is from after I had been converted in baby animals.

I also had a very comfortable village read of him early on in madagascar, though I don't remember if I got a chance to say it on thread before he died.

But it is good to see that you are deep enough in your tunnel that everything I do is now evidence of wolfiness. I do suggest you direct your village energy elsewhere, but I know how hard it is to get out of a good tunnel once you find one.

Ok but also, you wolfed with him ONE TIME. Maybe that makes you great at reading those people after that - I can't say the same for myself, but I haven't been playing as long as you.

And I did go back and look at Madagascar, and while you verbalized some things that indicated you thought he might be village, you didn't actually village-read him on the thread.

Idk man, I'm just super uncomfortable with it. If you're actually village and I'm tunneling you, I'm sorry, but you're making me feel all kinds of weird right now.

 

[cubsrule4e]

What are your thoughts on zenge?

I feel like his play is matching up with last game. People have made comments about me/chaos, but he and shorty had their little tif yesterday. It seemed to concern vis (i think thats who it was) but it didnt really strike me as anything at all. Maybe even just banterish like me and coop were at the start of the game. I guess he's kind of a default village lean right now, since I have higher priority people on the wolfy side.

 

[cubsrule4e]

To be honest I'm more than a little offended that you guys are somehow reading me more scummy than the person who was actively trying to die for an entire day and then finally decided to make a couple posts that were actually on topic before going back to trolling. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

My CDS pharmacy license doesnt allow me to prescribe those for some reason, so she didnt get them from me!

 

[alleycat03]

I mean I won't complain, but also you mentioned some of my posts pinged you yesterday, so I am a little confused why I'm in your village leans lol

Eh your reads list seemed a bit off, but nothing else has really bothered me as I’ve seen more of your posts. So you’re a village lean right now.

 

[WildZoo]

Are you scum reading Coop, then?

You can see where she is in my reads list. But that's not really my point. I'm having a hard time understanding how the people who were reading her top scummy changed their minds based on her minimal content and have apparently only managed to find me even more suspicious. I'm especially having a hard time understanding why you said you were interested in evaluating both of us after d1, but have barely said anything about her since d2 started and tunneled on me instead. It makes little sense to me.

You've hardly seemed to interact with the vast majority of my content, and have focused on the one part that fits your scum!dubz narrative, even though I've explained it. It is frustrating to have spent as much time on trying to gamesolve as I did yesterday and somehow have that turned around to make me even more scummy. Like I literally can't win, if I don't scumhunt when I'm busy I'm scum, if I scumhunt when I'm not I'm scum.

Even more frustrating because I'm still reading you village. It would be easier to swallow if I thought you were scum. But since that's not the case I just have to sit here wondering why I can't get through to you this game. And I'm coming up blank. So I'm asking you to step out of your tunnel for a moment and consider a world where I'm village, because I am, and you're going to regret not seeing it and wasting an entire 36 hours on confirmation bias.

Ok but also, you wolfed with him ONE TIME. Maybe that makes you great at reading those people after that - I can't say the same for myself, but I haven't been playing as long as you.

And I did go back and look at Madagascar, and while you verbalized some things that indicated you thought he might be village, you didn't actually village-read him on the thread.

Idk man, I'm just super uncomfortable with it. If you're actually village and I'm tunneling you, I'm sorry, but you're making me feel all kinds of weird right now.

Alright. I give up. It's clear that I'm wasting my breath here.

No matter, though. If I do go down, it won't change the fact that scum!dubz does not get yoten without mechanical evidence. Funny how the yeet armor isn't quite as strong when I'm village.

 

[Viscernable]

This feels scummy to me

Good old “re-evaluating” your “village reads” when their reads are starting to get more problematic

Went back to see chaos’s reads and when they were posted relative to this flip:

I mean, I’ve gone back and forth about it. Not Chaos specifically, I am getting village vibes from him.

I can get behind this. I feel good about you and Alley at least and I can’t really understand him pushing me and Chaos. Me because I obviously know, but Chaos because it’s the most village I’ve ever felt about Chaos.

Yeet Stagg

Before chaos posts his reads

I think Viscernable is most likely town as I have explained before.

Zenge and Shorty seem to be genuinely scumhunting

Leaning Dina as town coz of the affiliation reveal.

Everyone else seems neutral , slightly scumleaning Dubz as of now

Zenge likes this post

Not Dubz , Cubz. sorry

Zenge does not like this post

With regards to Chaos specifically, he’s in neutral. What concerns me, and why I feel the need to pay extra attention to his interactions (scum lean) is that I’m not used to seeing his level of involvement be this high. Being outside of what I’m used to seeing makes me want to watch more closely. But I certainly don’t want to condemn him for increasing his participation level.

And then magically… he re-evaluates. After apparently liking his reads aside from the scumread on cubs.

 

[Viscernable]

Why Cubs? Cubs is already on the board.

More interested in a Wonder flip than a Cubs flip.

Yeet Wonder

You've softly defended cubs twice now.

Because I feel better about my wonder pings than my Cubs concerns.

Have I defended Cubs? I don’t think that I have, I’m just not keen to vote there and more cautious about a Cubs flip.

I spent most of RvB scum reading Cubs because he comes off super scummy. So with people saying “hey he seems scummy” I’m hesitant to immediately think it’s because he actually is scum.

I didn’t have expectations per se, but you were the first on Cubs without a lot of thread momentum towards it, so I was just surprised to see it when I did.

This whole interaction/series of interactions by Z in response to cubs being voted. To me they’re actually counting slightly against cubs/z being a team because I’d expect most wolves to avoid getting so visibly involved with a wagon on a teammate. But I could see Z panicking about what he felt could turn into a last-minute flash wagon and feeling he needed to get involved, so I’m not putting too much weight on that expectation.

 

[WildZoo]

I didnt knock her for being unavailable, I just agreed with shorty in that when she did post it wasnt anything driving conversation or pushing people as her usual village. Im also used to longer block posts vs single post catch up reads, that was just something I noticed that was different. Her pro-cubs comments just seemed pockety to me personally, its something that I dont get from her a lot in a game (last game she modded when said made the best read no one listened to comment). Making the 3 way tie last night seemed kind of strange so I put her in the lead to see where that would go. Overall just getting a non village affiliation feel.

And you continuing to base a meta read of me on what must be games from at least a year ago, but somehow forgetting how much I value wagonomics based around ties? Do better.

 

[alleycat03]

Putting me within two votes of hammer when I said I'd be driving for several hours is wonderful

I’m sorry, did you want me to wait to vote for you until after you’re done driving? I’m voting for the person I feel is the scummiest.

 

[WildZoo]

Also @Coopah that triple shot latte thing was a MISTAKE

 

[Viscernable]

In case anyone forgot, let’s keep this in mind.

Oh snap, good catch.

The one direct interaction they’ve had as far as I’ve seen.

cubsrule4e: He’s hard to read, but overall he’s coming across as village.

Nice dodge of giving reasoning on village leaning cubs, with some “hard to read” hedging for seasoning

 

[WildZoo]

I’m sorry, did you want me to wait to vote for you until after you’re done driving? I’m voting for the person I feel is the scummiest.

In a game where majority is on? Yeah, actually.