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[Lawpy]

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I’m curious about Mel’s vote on AM but i’m not sure if he’ll be back to clarify @Melchizedek

 

[Lawpy]

Maybe this will wake the thread back up.

Lynch Lawpy

Day 1 Lynch Tally
Stagg (1) - Cray
Lawper () -
Capri (3) - Dandy, shelter, Paws
Cray (1) - Lawpy
shelter (4) - AM, mutt, Stagg, capri
AM (1) - Mel

10/10

Day 2 Lynch Tally
Mutts (4) - Mel, Stagg, Lawper, Paws
Lawpy (3) - AM, Cray, Capri
Paws (1) - mutt

8/8

Day 3 Lynch Tally
No Lynch (5) - Paws, Lawpy, AM, Cray, capri

5/6
Missing: Mel

How come your and capri’s votes are coordinating? Both of you went after me early D1 then switched to shelter. Both of you went after me in D2. Everyone besides Mel (who wasn’t active) voted no one D3. And both of you are after me today.

 

[Lawpy]

I think Pawsy is village from what I’m reading. Her thought process and deductions are generally logical and sound.

But the apparent AM-capri vote coordination is bothering me.

 

[Lawpy]

wait why am I being lynched now lol

I don't like you shading me while sitting on a capri vote.

LOL I didnt SHADE you, I merely pointed out that I thought it strange you weren't posting as much as usual but you have since turned that around

Unlynch cray
Lynch AM

Not participating normally.

Am, what are your thoughts now that dandy is gone? Who are your village reads?

Unlynch am
Lynch cray

I'll evaluate am again later, but feeling pretty good about a cray lynch

I don’t like this, I think at the time Cray had just only posted twice to explain that she wasn’t around, but Shelter was at least throwing a few questions around or around to talk. Mostly I don’t like the “Cray’s Last post felt off” and then the 180 to her putting up defense. Looks like wolf bandwagoning.

Lynch Mutts

Could also lynch AM again based on feels from D1z

@Melchizedek @StayingPositive2017 You're weirding me out by how much you're shading. What outside of my activity is bothering you?

It’s interesting that AM claims that she’s getting “weirded out” by seeing shelter, Pawsy and Mel “shading” her, when they were just noting their feels on her activity. That terminology used is interesting.

 

[Lawpy]

Lynch Lawpy

to see what happens.

I'll stick with this
###Lynch Lawpy###
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's a good a start as any

Unofficial D1 - ****-I-have-to-track-these-now tally

Stagg (2) - Mutt, Mel
Lawper (2) - AM, capri
Mutt (1) - Paws
Capri (2) - Dandy, shelter
Cray (1) - Lawpy
shelter (1) - Stagg

9/10
lynch close in 11 hours

Unlynch Lawpy
Lynch shelter

Unofficial Day 1 - ****-I-have-to-track-these-now tally

Stagg (2) - Mel, Cray
Lawper (1) - capri
Capri (2) - Dandy, shelter
Cray (2) - Lawpy, Stagg
shelter (1) - AM

8/10
lynch close in ~ 4 hours

I leave y'all for a couple hours after checking periodically all day and you not only blow up the thread but also put me in the lead? Not cool.

###Unlynch Lawpy###
###Lynch Shelter###

For self prez, obvs

Idk I'm on mobile right now and won't be home until basically lynch close. But I mean if you wanna start off this already small game by lynching a villager that's cool.

Official Day 1 - ****-I-have-to-track-these-now tally

Stagg (1) - Cray
Capri (3) - Dandy, shelter, Paws
Cray (1) - Lawpy
shelter (4) - AM, mutt, Stagg, capri
AM (1) - Mel

10/10

One minute to check your votes please!

Voting similarities between AM and capri in D1

 

[Animal Midwife]

How come your and capri’s votes are coordinating? Both of you went after me early D1 then switched to shelter. Both of you went after me in D2. Everyone besides Mel (who wasn’t active) voted no one D3. And both of you are after me today.

How should I know? I've been suspecting you since D1 and I'm going to vote where I believe the wolves are. I already gave my reasoning for shelter and no lynch.

Now, I'm going to ask again, why you think Mel is the second wolf?

 

[Lawpy]

I don't like you shading me while sitting on a capri vote.

Also this reads like a subtle defense of capri

 

[Lawpy]

How should I know? I've been suspecting you since D1 and I'm going to vote where I believe the wolves are. I already gave my reasoning for shelter and no lynch.

Now, I'm going to ask again, why you think Mel is the second wolf?

I don’t think Mel is the second wolf anymore. I think it’s you.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also this reads like a subtle defense of capri

How so?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don’t think Mel is the second wolf anymore. I think it’s you.

Convenient.

 

[JustPaws]

Hmmmm
Not good lawpy, sounding super wolfy

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Unlynch Capri
Lynch lawper
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Why would wolves vote every day together??

 

[JustPaws]

@Animal Midwife who do you think is the second wolf?

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife who do you think is the second wolf?

I'm struggling because my guts telling my there's double bus. I don't know why Mel voted for a third person today, but was feeling better with Lawpy shading him earlier. If it's you, I'm just losing here.

 

[Lawpy]

lynch capri

This has been your only post thus far. Any updated thoughts. Any reasons to leave your vote on Capri or anyone else sticking out to you?

I voted early on without much to go on, mostly to see the reaction. I chose capri using a few arbitrary parameters: I was looking for someone who would post early on with something neutral, not game related, and unlikely to raise eyebrows. Also preferred someone in the upper middle range of post numbers without antagonizing anyone. Preference given if they weren't in the last game I played as a method of getting a little information on them. Strong emphasis on using these parameters for an early lynch vote, not as a hard and fast wolf net.

I don't have any strong reasons for switching votes at present but I'm also not 100% locked down on my current vote.

What do you mean by upper middle range?

If you change your vote, would you use the same criteria? Who else would you consider lynching? Who reads most village to you right now?

One of the fore-runners for posting. At that point, first tier was you and AM, second tier was Capri, Mel, and StayingPositive.

If I changed my vote, would I consider using the same criteria: No. I don't know that it's particularly useful to begin with, but it's definitely less useful after mentioning it.

Who else would I consider lynching: Crayola for giving me allie PTSD. But I would really like to hear who she would like to lynch before traveling down that road.

Who reads most village to me right now: No one. Based on how long it took me to recover from the last game, I imagine I will suspect everyone for about 72 hours after the game has ended.

Sorry AM, I meant 1st tier was AM and Lawper. Based solely on number of posts at that point.

Lawper, first tier meaning tied for 1st with post counts, second tier meaning tied for 2nd with post counts.

Contingency Lynch Dandy

What are your reads?

Dandy was sensing something from what I’m seeing in her reasons. Unfortunately, she didn’t post much and the wolves probably thought she would pose more danger to them with her deductions in future days if she lived. The Dandy contingency vote looked like pressure presented in an after-the-fact way.

 

[Lawpy]

Hmmmm
Not good lawpy, sounding super wolfy

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Unlynch Capri
Lynch lawper
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Why would wolves vote every day together??

It’s more like capri following AM’s lead for whatever reason. It would fit well given the timing of these votes, with capri blaming her delay on reading slow.

You guys can lynch me and give the game to the wolves. I just think something strange is going on with AM and capri, with voting coordination being one reason. I also think this has something to do with these nightkills.

 

[JustPaws]

I'm struggling because my guts telling my there's double bus. I don't know why Mel voted for a third person today, but was feeling better with Lawpy shading him earlier. If it's you, I'm just losing here.

How do you feel about Lawpy's large posting just now?

 

[JustPaws]

It’s more like capri following AM’s lead for whatever reason. It would fit well given the timing of these votes, with capri blaming her delay on reading slow.

You guys can lynch me and give the game to the wolves. I just think something strange is going on with AM and capri, with voting coordination being one reason. I also think this has something to do with these nightkills.

What do you think about Mel again?

 

[Animal Midwife]

How do you feel about Lawpy's large posting just now?

Quite retaliatory given he was village reading me until I voted for him which is pretty funny because he's never acted like this when I voted for him before.

 

[Lawpy]

Also it’s interesting that dandy and shelter voted capri in D1 and noted AM’s activity in different ways. Granted their interpretations were different but dandy was measuring post count which isn’t reliable. shelter just noted something was off with AM, which was later shared by Pawsy and Mel. And both unfortunately died early in the game. That dandy nightkill might be in retribution to the capri vote but the similarity in references to AM’s activity is a bit peculiar

 

[Lawpy]

Quite retaliatory given he was village reading me until I voted for him which is pretty funny because he's never acted like this when I voted for him before.

Nice assumption there. It’s LYLO and the aim is to find out who the wolves are. So rereading is necessary especially since reads can be wrong.

And also I stopped village reading you in D2. Least wolfy doesn’t mean you’re village.

 

[Lawpy]

I thought shelter was wolf because her argument that AM wasn't active contradicted directly with dandy's argument and AM did post in some detail. And shelter herself wasn't really active.

shelter flipping village meant she might actually suggested something important that I missed. I had AM in my lean village read in D1 and i don't trust her anymore. Especially when she contingency lynched dandy and dandy died N1.

I can support lynching AM. Cray however bothers me because she's giving me wolf vibes from her reasoning and inactivity.

But let’s ignore these posts and assume reads are static and don’t change.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Nice assumption there. It’s LYLO and the aim is to find out who the wolves are. So rereading is necessary especially since reads can be wrong.

And also I stopped village reading you in D2. Least wolfy doesn’t mean you’re village.

That's the whole game not just lylo, but thanks anyway. Why do you wait to reread me until after I voted you if I was that wolfy? What did you mean by "least wolfy" then?

 

[Lawpy]

What do you think about Mel again?

I think he’s onto something about AM. Unfortunately, he isn’t much active but I just think his AM vote was based on something important. It fits with his prior feels that AM accused him of shading her in D2. And it makes sense in context of shelter’s interactions of AM.

I’m still reading and analyzing things right now.

 

[Lawpy]

That's the whole game not just lylo, but thanks anyway. Why do you wait to reread me until after I voted you if I was that wolfy? What did you mean by "least wolfy" then?

Because I was reading the past days at that time to see what’s going on as my interpretations were missing something important? Your vote just added on to the weird coordination feelings i was getting throughout the game. And also I was busy with work at that time (like we all were hence quiet thread).

Trust no one applies. Least wolfy means i’m at that time least likely to lynch you because i think other people are more sketchy. That doesn’t mean you’re in the clear.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Because I was reading the past days at that time to see what’s going on as my interpretations were missing something important? Your vote just added on to the weird coordination feelings i was getting throughout the game. And also I was busy with work at that time (like we all were hence quiet thread).

Trust no one applies. Least wolfy means i’m at that time least likely to lynch you because i think other people are more sketchy. That doesn’t mean you’re in the clear.

Village lean =/= clear either. But I assumed that's what you meant. Were you just saying everyone was wolfy?

 

[JustPaws]

Gotta say from the outside, this feels very v/v.

AM what makes you think it couldn't be Mel and capri? It sucks that Mel has been so quiet @Melchizedek can you please come back to thread?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Gotta say from the outside, this feels very v/v.

AM what makes you think it couldn't be Mel and capri? It sucks that Mel has been so quiet @Melchizedek can you please come back to thread?

I just feel like Mel wouldn't play this lowkey as a wolf so I don't have him paired with anyone.

 

[JustPaws]

Am what's the tally?

 

[JustPaws]

I just feel like Mel wouldn't play this lowkey as a wolf so I don't have him paired with anyone.

But what if he's just not feeling well and coasting it out? If he's not a wolf, why does he think you are?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 4 Lynch Tally
Lawpy (3) - capri, AM, Paws
capri (1) - Lawpy
AM (1) - Mel

3/5
lynch close in ~ 2.5 hours

 

[JustPaws]

Unofficial Day 4 Lynch Tally
Lawpy (3) - capri, AM, Paws
capri (1) - Lawpy
AM (1) - Mel

3/5
lynch close in ~ 2.5 hours

I'm feeling more solid on Capri. I really don't think they would vote each other if they are both wolves. I'm gonna have to go there

###unlynch lawp
Lynch Capri###

 

[Animal Midwife]

But what if he's just not feeling well and coasting it out? If he's not a wolf, why does he think you are?

I don't know, he never mentioned any reasoning in his post. Who would he be paired with though? If capri, he let her come pretty close to being lynched D1.

 

[Lawpy]

I'm feeling more solid on Capri. I really don't think they would vote each other if they are both wolves. I'm gonna have to go there

###unlynch lawp
Lynch Capri###

I don’t know if Mel is coming back. If he isn’t, I’m going to switch to AM.

 

[JustPaws]

I don’t know if Mel is coming back. If he isn’t, I’m going to switch to AM.

Why is that?

 

[Lawpy]

@StayingPositive2017 , you asked for my thoughts, here they are:

Cray: If she's village I'm pissed at her. Not for suspecting me, but because role revealing a PR like that out of spite without even trying to catch up on thread screws village. Kind of seems like a wolfy move to last an extra day in a speed game, but also something I could see emotional/pissed Cray doing, so willing to hold that vote for now.

Mutt: One of my top wolf candidates. In her first game she was much more active, inquisitive, and tried to give more reads. I feel like she's been laying low more. It also feels like she's been posting things which seem like she's participating without actually adding a lot of original thought. Could be a noob villager trying to be more analytical, but also gives me feels that it's a noob wolf trying not to draw too much attention. I guess when I've watched noobs play multiple games, their metas they have a style that changes gradually from game to game, but Mutt's seems to be noticeably different to me which I don't like.

Mel: Per typical Mel he's making some good points but also seems sketchy to me. There've been a few things that were said that pinged me a bit because I thought "that would be a something an experienced wolf might do" then he addressed it. I'm not sure if that means we're just seeing the same things or if he's the experienced wolf. I'll also add that the Mel/AM interactions don't feel V on V to me, and I'd be more surprised to have them both flip village than have one of them flip wolf.

AM: A lot of my observations on her have already been addressed in thread. Not as many questions early on. Decent post volume but felt like there was more side-convos than normal for AM. I'm not sure where I'm at on her, so she's sitting in my neutral to wolfy-lean pile with Mel.

Paws: Feels village to me, but is also apparently a fairly strong wolf, so sitting in my neutral to village-lean pile with Capri and Lawper.

Lawper: I've only played one game with him and haven't really seen him play much. I don't really know his norm let alone what wolfy Law looks like. He hasn't voted to lynch himself yet, so I guess that's a plus? Or is it? Lol. While I have village feelz from him, my gut/brain is saying to keep him in the neutral pile.

Capri: Not feeling wolfy vibes from her. Will have a better grasp on her when I go back and iso her.

Me: Totes a villager, obvs.

Stagg’s reads are interesting especially his observations on Mel-AM interactions. It’s interesting that he views these interactions as more W/V than V/V. This actually fits with the actual Mel-AM interactions, Mel’s feelings of AM and Mel’s vote on AM.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Stagg’s reads are interesting especially his observations on Mel-AM interactions. It’s interesting that he views these interactions as more W/V than V/V. This actually fits with the actual Mel-AM interactions, Mel’s feelings of AM and Mel’s vote on AM.

Good point especially since you were thinking the opposite hours ago.

 

[Lawpy]

Why is that?

It would otherwise be a 2-1-2 on LYLO. I don’t think ties are good on LYLO.

Although that assumes you would switch onto AM or me for the tie to be broken.

And I don’t know how ties work. I have no problems dying with a wolf.

 

[Lawpy]

I had to jump in to say that AM is an amazing player. I shouldn't continue to spread this propaganda about her, for many reasons. Like, don't fall into the trap of putting her on a pedestal, because like any villager she could be wrong about stuff, and if a wolf...

She's a good villager and a good wolf. Do not underestimate her ever. This is coming from people who have spent the last couple years playing with her over and over. Her and I actually noobed the exact same game, but she has a bigger number under her belt now. So yeah, a lot of us have witnessed her "getting better" but it's for the reason that we've had a chance to watch her play evolve. That's not because her wolf game hasn't been pretty strong for a while now.

Thanks for the heads up Cray

 

[Animal Midwife]

It would otherwise be a 2-1-2 on LYLO. I don’t think ties are good on LYLO.

Although that assumes you would switch onto AM or me for the tie to be broken.

And I don’t know how ties work. I have no problems dying with a wolf.

If anyone but a wolf dies the game will end, you know this already.

 

[JustPaws]

It would otherwise be a 2-1-2 on LYLO. I don’t think ties are good on LYLO.

Although that assumes you would switch onto AM or me for the tie to be broken.

And I don’t know how ties work. I have no problems dying with a wolf.

We lose if there is a w/v tie I think

 

[Lawpy]

If anyone but a wolf dies the game will end, you know this already.

We lose if there is a w/v tie I think

I don’t know how LYLO ties would work exactly. Closer thinking shows a W/V double lynch kill would be bad news and game over since remaining wolf would kill villager at night. I just remembered of a Snowy-Lawpy double lynch kill from Colorado midgame. But there are other ways for LYLO ties to be done by mods which is why i personally don’t like tying on LYLO.

Mel is stuck on AM. I have no problems swinging between AM or capri. And Pawsy leans more on capri then me then AM.

 

[Lawpy]

I had the feeling someone watched me while I tidied up my notes, was the notification. I think I paraphrased this well.

I don't know what else to call this if not a seer. A tracker?

lynch AM

I was watched or "someone read over my shoulder" N2 I think? Confused about timing. I got the results on wednesday morning.

Cray and Mel have both reported being watched.

 

[JustPaws]

I don’t know how LYLO ties would work exactly. Closer thinking shows a W/V double lynch kill would be bad news and game over since remaining wolf would kill villager at night. I just remembered of a Snowy-Lawpy double lynch kill from Colorado midgame. But there are other ways for LYLO ties to be done by mods which is why i personally don’t like tying on LYLO.

Mel is stuck on AM. I have no problems swinging between AM or capri. And Pawsy leans more on capri then me then AM.

So you want me to pick between you and am. Thats dumb if your village, cuz you clearly see that I think you are more wolfy than AM

 

[JustPaws]

Cray and Mel have both reported being watched.

Huh I missed that. I thought he was admitting to Cray's block. What night did you get blocked?

 

[kaydubs]

Official Day 4 Lynch Tally
Lawpy (2) - capri, AM
capri (2) - Lawpy, Paws
AM (1) - Mel

5/5
lynch close in ~ 1.75 hours

 

[Lawpy]

Unlynch Stagg
Lynch AM

for not freaking out that I RVS lynched someone for once.


yup thats about all I got right now.

I don’t like this, I think at the time Cray had just only posted twice to explain that she wasn’t around, but Shelter was at least throwing a few questions around or around to talk. Mostly I don’t like the “Cray’s Last post felt off” and then the 180 to her putting up defense. Looks like wolf bandwagoning.

Lynch Mutts

Could also lynch AM again based on feels from D1z

@Melchizedek @StayingPositive2017 You're weirding me out by how much you're shading. What outside of my activity is bothering you?

I already said, but I'll add the fact that you were starting to get on Dandy's case last night and then Dandy got wolf-killed and I think that would be a bad wolf move to draw attention to yourself to like that.

I only made the one post Mel.

Uh huh and it was a contingency lynch too hence why I said you STARTED to get on Dandy's case. Night closed a half hour later and if Dandy had come back in that time to respond to AM, I assume AM would have pushed her a little bit more. What would the point of doing that be especially if at that point it was probably likely that the pack had already decided to kill Dandy?

ETA: to make it clearer, I'm saying this makes AM less wolfy.

These interactions don’t look V/V or even W/W. It’s something noted by others like Stagg to be more like V/W than anything. Mel’s feels on AM were related to AM’s D1 play and seeing something off (something noted similarly by shelter). But he added that the dandy contingency move made AM less wolfy. However, clearly now Mel felt something even more off to swing back to AM

 

[Lawpy]

So you want me to pick between you and am. Thats dumb if your village, cuz you clearly see that I think you are more wolfy than AM

This is why it’s game over either way. We lose by a tie or we lynch a villager with an arm pain from all these typing and quoting.

Really i’m hoping @Melchizedek would come back. I’m personally fine lynching AM or capri but Mel’s AM vote is based on important reasons that he knows.

 

[JustPaws]

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Unlynch Capri
Lynch AM
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I thought you were weird d1, Mel convinced me otherwise and now he's voting for you again

 

[Lawpy]

Huh I missed that. I thought he was admitting to Cray's block. What night did you get blocked?

They both say that they were watched. Mel didn’t specify he was blocked in that post, unless his watch = block.

Cray said she blocked me N1. All I got was I went to bed early because I was tired.

 

[Lawpy]

Unlynch capri
Lynch AM