I'm camp ew deepwolf, not ew bussing, specifically. It's not even remotely close to cheating. I just feel sympathy pains for the players that will never get simple cred for bagging a wolf again. People will always know there are situations where they'd deepwolf and will worry it could be happening again.
Ala Mando, Tsingy, Tendrombohitra, Vatohara Day 3 Tally
genny (2) - samac, mkg
Stroganoff (3) - AM, Viscernable, meats
mkg (1) - diff
Pippy () -
DubZ (1) - Pippy
AM (2) - Bob, Strog
meats (1) - Dubz
10/12 voting
Missing: @Crayola227 @genny
Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~1.5ish hours)
So Cray hops on the AM wagon, making it strog 4, AM 3.
So here's what I dont get. Strog backtracks on his statements about AM, then hops onto Pippy, who has no votes. Why would a wolf do this? it effectively ended the only viable counterwagon. Like, if theres an option to continue why not take it? The only way that this makes sense is that the pack decided to bus Strog, and he placed a vote on packmate AM for WIFOM/make her look good as she was driving the bus, just like what LIS did in England with bussing Sunny. AM was on his vote every day, but never really gave an explanation at the time as to why, it was like he just got picked randomly. So when the wagon on AM actually started to pick up, he hopped off in order to protect her. Not sure if this would be within her meta, but I wouldnt be surprised if it was.
Ala Mando, Tsingy, Tendrombohitra, Vatohara Day 3 Tally
genny (1) - mkg
Stroganoff (4) - AM, Viscernable, meats, samac
mkg (1) - diff
Pippy (1) - Stroganoff
DubZ (1) - Pippy
AM (2) - Bob, Cray
meats (1) - Dubz
11/12 voting
Missing: @genny
Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~40 minutes)
Ala Mando, Tsingy, Tendrombohitra, Vatohara Day 3 FINAL Tally
genny (1) - mkg
Stroganoff (5) - AM, Viscernable, meats, samac, Cray
mkg (1) - diff
Pippy (1) - Stroganoff
DubZ (1) - Pippy
AM (1) - Bob
meats (1) - Dubz
11/12 voting
@Stroganoff, you are the lead.
Missing: @genny
CHECK YO' VOTES.
Hmm okay. Went looking for this because I had a moment of deep fear over Dubz’s post here:
These reads help me feel a bit better but I’d like some input. Did it feel like strog was her 2nd highest wolf read as these reads seem to imply? She voted pippy and genny yesterday over him and pippy isn’t even jn these wolf reads. Claiming the pippy vote was just a reaction test now but has no identifoable goal for said reaction test so I have doubts. Skimming her posts I don’t see strog interactions and last night she made a joke about “if strog flips wolf does that mean I don’t have to read his posts from tonightOh I also found it interesting that no one except strog took the bait to yeet pippy yesterday, but true to form, I don't know how to interpret my own reaction test
“ that could be an excuse to avoid (posthumous) packmate interactions. Also turned up this post below. at the time it was posted i noted it as kinda sus to want to jump in to respond to the open question to get in front of the fact that she was reading dubz similarly to last game with the note that read started before dubz was converted. Dismissed it as probably too blatant pre-emptively defensive for a wolfy dubz. Now with the strog flip it gives me pause.
why does it make you worry about pippy?
Looks like it could be a bus once he was confident it wouldn’t get pippy yeeted. I do need to look at it more though. Thanks for posting the tallies for the last couple days. I dont have the attention span right now to properly evaluate the wagonomics and your posts so I’ll consider them when i get home
I think the biggest thing for me from this flip role wise is that it wasn't an invasive species - tenrecs are pretty benign overall and I doubt every wolf would get a tenrec role, but can see role names have possibly been RNGd into wolf/village
I'm interested why the above makes you feel better about mkg, if anything the timing of their own alley vote looks really bad given the state of the strog wagon at the time. Visc doesn't look great either for reasons you mentioned above but of the two I think mkg has had overall sketchier play
30 pages is a mad scramble?
Zenge questioned her about it at the time, and this was the response ^
Oh no one actually said it was, it was just that the reaction to our win was basically “oh. We didn’t catch the wolves despite them doing a **** job at sounding village just because they resorted to bussing. I prefer not to bus, personally, wins that way are much more rewarding/challenging”. Definitely meant with no moral judgement (I assume) and just as explaining personal wolfing philosophy, but it just felt like the win was being dismissed and our actions morally judged at the time lol
Also I hate this post in the context of knowing alley was village. Feels gross and like she's jumping on Dubz's vote.
Other Visc posts from D1 sound reasonable to me, but this particular one references alley's vote for samac and kind of comes off as a defense? Not sure if it outweighs visc's other posts, but just noting it.
Mainly things from genny, I will say I liked your posts when you came in but some things about Genny's voting and your continued push on Samac/Cyndia is interesting, as your both in my POE but not really compatible, so I'm gonna have to go back and do some more digging.
well are you gonna share it with us?
Yes. I didn't like your insistence that the D1 Strog was wolf-driven as well as avoiding voting there D2 when it was still viable.
It is for me, especially since I only started reading closely once I got a heads up that I might be subbing. I like to take notes and it takes me a while, otherwise I tend to miss things.
Vacances a Madagasikara Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge () -
AM (1) - mayo
April () -
Vissy () -
Stroganoff (4) - Vissy, AM, alley, Pippy
mayo () -
alley (4) - Dubz, samac, April, mkg
mkg (1) - Lawpy
differentiating () -
samac (1) - genny
Lawpy (1) - differentiating
Pippy (1) - Zenge
@Stroganoff and @alleycat03, you are in the lead
13/16 voting
Missing: @Stroganoff, @BobLoblaw78 , @vetmedhead
Vote closes at 9pm EDT (~30 minutes)
Oh boy, a tie!
wait, what? There was a 4 way tie D2, and Strog was not one of them. You were the only one on him, I wouldn't call that viable. D1, yes, my vote made ally and strog tied but at the time I did not understand why people piled on him so quickly.
My POE is getting worked on as there are compatibility issues, but its: cubs, meats, cyndia, +/- you. Genny and meats both hopping onto Samac D2 WITH STROG, when they were both on the board is giving me the hebie jebies, but as I mentioned earlier, a lot of the votes came in less than 2 minutes to closeAndao Hianika Tendrombohitra Day 2 FINAL Tally
Vissy () -
Stroganoff (1) - AM
samac (3) - genny, Strog, vmh
Pippy () -
vmh (3) - Vissy, Pippy, diff
Lawpy (1) - Bob
genny (3) - Dubz, Zenge, samac
mkg () -
Zenge (3) - mayo, Lawpy, mkg
14/14 voting
Missing: no one
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I like vote analysis enough to mess around with it when I'm voting. So, it seemed to me it would be more interesting to put meats on the board (I ended on her yesterday, not genny) than to add on to the strog vote, which I figured would get a lot of people on it anyway based on thread consensus. And I wasn't sure if he'd even show up at the time. I don't have any strog interactions because I was not here when he finally showed up. My post about not having to read his was because if he was in the lead for most of the day before he finally started posting, his posts are pretty much useless for analysis.Hmm okay. Went looking for this because I had a moment of deep fear over Dubz’s post here:
These reads help me feel a bit better but I’d like some input. Did it feel like strog was her 2nd highest wolf read as these reads seem to imply? She voted pippy and genny yesterday over him and pippy isn’t even jn these wolf reads. Claiming the pippy vote was just a reaction test now but has no identifoable goal for said reaction test so I have doubts. Skimming her posts I don’t see strog interactions and last night she made a joke about “if strog flips wolf does that mean I don’t have to read his posts from tonight
It would be a bit unusual for three wolves to end up on the same vote, especially when meats could have voted for zenge instead
Alternative option: you stayed off because you despise bussing.
When do wolves ever actively try to vote out power roles? 🤨
Strog was the the board the majority of the day. It dissipated because of the growing Pippy wagon. Remember that one?
Mm. I'd like to see you fix those compatibility issues.
You going back on your village read of me pippy?
Plus the dissuading comments about Strog existing as a wagon.
Pip-peridge farm remembers.
Possibly.
Well that was a very short-lived pocket attempt 😉
Hmm ok. I might not be up to those yet. I do see a LOT of defense of Strog from samac D1. She tagged him multiple times but then was super non-committal about her read on him
Well, you are a direwolf.
