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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
It's the issue of making a play style argument that is completely not true. @Animal Midwife would agree that you need evidence to do that yes?
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It a portion of how I play (you should know from that whole page we spend bickering, right? 😉), but I'm not enforcing it on anyone else. Kinda of like how some enjoy mechanic talk. Semi-hard pass from me.
 
Animal Midwife said:
1. So what are the odds of it being a bluff? 2. And is it worth lynching? 3. Pros and cons? 4. Probability stuff.
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1. No way of knowing, no clue how many PRs
2. Seeing as it was the best read I have, yeah
3. Pro : try not to see cubs lynched. Because that was just sad af and mean imo
4. again, can't know probability when we have no clue how many PRs
 
genny said:
It's exactly like that. Things get missed or forgotten.
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Don't see how that could've been missed. Seems like everyone caught it.

Y'all can make me feel even more of a worthless villager and then just Lynch me tomorrow if she gets NKd or some ****. It's literally like nothing I ever do is ever seen as right, ever.
 
genny said:
It's exactly like that. Things get missed or forgotten.
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To genny's point, I definitely missed that until now, zigs. I think I've missed half of the things said here.. will review tomorrow if my fever goes down.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
3. Pro : try not to see cubs lynched. Because that was just sad af and mean imo
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You're just as much responsible for Cubs's lynch by not switching off Barks as the people who voted for Cubs. If a different counter-wagon becomes viable, it allows people on Cubs to move there while keeping Barks safe. So don't pull that guilt trip BS.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I'm not defensive about my comment, I'm explaining my comment, but the logic seems to be going over your head so I guess it's pointless
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I understood the logic just fine the first time you said it, thanks. I'm saying it's NAI because people misremember these things all the time and use them in playstyle arguments all the time.
 
genny said:
You're just as much responsible for Cubs's lynch by not switching off Barks as the people who voted for Cubs. If a different counter-wagon becomes viable, it allows people on Cubs to move there while keeping Barks safe. So don't pull that guilt trip BS.
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I mean there wasn't any other close counter wagon.. and I know this because I looked if I could save cubs and barks was the closest so I didn't do anything.. everyone else had only 1 or 2 people on them
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Y'all can make me feel even more of a worthless villager and then just Lynch me tomorrow if she gets NKd or some ****. It's literally like nothing I ever do is ever seen as right, ever.
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There's lots of arguing in this game. Please don't take it personally.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
1. No way of knowing, no clue how many PRs
2. Seeing as it was the best read I have, yeah
3. Pro : try not to see cubs lynched. Because that was just sad af and mean imo
4. again, can't know probability when we have no clue how many PRs
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You will never know how many PRs are in a closed setup. Ever. Unless every single one outs themselves. Some only have one. This is a generous one for telling us how many wolves and even about the conversion aspect.

And you know cubs was always going to be a counter as longer as Barks was up though, right?

As someone who been in this situation enough times to the point where I've stopped role revealing, you need substantial wolf evidence and/or a counterclaim to actively pursue a claimed PR.
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
I mean there wasn't any other close counter wagon.. and I know this because I looked if I could save cubs and barks was the closest so I didn't do anything.. everyone else had only 1 or 2 people on them
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People moving off of barks could have created closer wagons. She made that comment an hour ago. There was time.
 
genny said:
You're just as much responsible for Cubs's lynch by not switching off Barks as the people who voted for Cubs. If a different counter-wagon becomes viable, it allows people on Cubs to move there while keeping Barks safe. So don't pull that guilt trip BS.
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You know what? No. That's just a ****ty thing to say. YOU voted for cubs, not me. So YOU are responsible for his Lynch, NOT me. And I gave barks opportunities to make a counter Lynch, she took none. She never said who thought was sketchy, never gave any reads, nothing.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
You know what? No. That's just a ****ty thing to say. YOU voted for cubs, not me. So YOU are responsible for his Lynch, NOT me. And I gave barks opportunities to make a counter Lynch, she took none. She never said who thought was sketchy, never gave any reads, nothing.
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This is why I encourage tally analysis. Tell me where barks should have moved looking at the final tally and whether it would have saved her. And would you have moved with her?
 
Animal Midwife said:
You will never know how many PRs are in a closed setup. Ever. Unless every single one outs themselves. Some only have one. This is a generous one for telling us how many wolves and even about the conversion aspect.

And you know cubs was always going to be a counter as longer as Barks was up though, right?

As someone who been in this situation enough times to the point where I've stopped role revealing, you need substantial wolf evidence and/or a counterclaim to actively pursue a claimed PR.
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I literally just said we don't know how many PRs, so we have no idea how the "probability" works into it. I don't know what you mean by the second paragraph and you talking in metaphors or some **** is just bothering me.

WildZoo said:
People moving off of barks could have created closer wagons. She made that comment an hour ago. There was time.
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she literally said that like 3 minutes ago
 
Day 1
***
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The skiers decided to start their weekend adventure at an interesting mountain. They had heard that a old, once-revered ski area in Plymouth, New Hampshire had reopened in early 2018 after shuttering its doors for almost a decade. They drove up to Tenney Mountain...only to remember that the terrain at Tenney is quite challenging and difficult for novices to handle.

Unfortunately for one novice skier, fresh-faced with the cold and the excitement, the mountain proved to be too much.

You have lynched @cubsrule4e , Tenney - Vanillager.

Coordinates
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43°44′16″N 71°47′01″
Vertical 1,400 ft (430 m)
Top elevation 2,149 ft (655 m)
Base elevation 749 ft (228 m)
Skiable area 110 acres (45 ha)
Runs 45
13% Novice
56% Intermediate
31% Advanced
_______
​
*Skiers*
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @WildZoo
4. @Dinashadow
5. @bryndiana.jones
6. @mypetmoose
7. @Skimble
8. @grebes4lyfe
9. @muttmanager
10. @genny
11. @SARdoghandler
12. @StartingoverVet
13. @ziggyandjazzy
14. @CoffeeQuestionMark
15. @Melchizedek
16. @dolphin106258
17. @Barkley13
18. @capri1722
19. @Mad Jack
20. @SportPonies
21. @MSUcvmHOPE
22. @SnowshoeDog143
23. @killerleaf

*Après-Ski*
3. @cubsrule4e - Tenney, Vanillager

22/23 remaining.
______________

CURRENT SNOW REPORT FOR TENNEY MOUNTAIN
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29th 2019
Total snowfall today: 0"
Lifts open: No data
Runs open: No data
______________

It is now NIGHT ONE.

Night will close at 10am Eastern Time, or earlier if all actions are in.

ski the east tiny.png
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Animal Midwife said:
This is why I encourage tally analysis. Tell me where barks should have moved looking at the final tally and whether it would have saved her. And would you have moved with her?
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We can talk in "what ifs" all we want. I don't know if I would've moved, because again, she provided nothing besides rolling over and attempting to claim PR. Idk why you are questioning me about this, not her.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
We can talk in "what ifs" all we want. I don't know if I would've moved, because again, she provided nothing besides rolling over and attempting to claim PR. Idk why you are questioning me about this, not her.
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Because the answer is right in the tally.
 
WildZoo said:
Uhhh no...

was at 9:01pm
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Thought you were talking about Genny's comment.

I find it interesting y'all think I should've been the one creating some sort of other bandwagon against barks, whose claim I already said I doubted. But none of y'all tried to do anything. Take accountability for your actions.

AM= you stayed on a vote, on your own
WZ= you voted to Lynch me (find, idgaf, but didn't save cubs)
genny= you helped Lynch cubs

But somehow this is all magically my fault? K.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Thought you were talking about Genny's comment.

I find it interesting y'all think I should've been the one creating some sort of other bandwagon against barks, whose claim I already said I doubted. But none of y'all tried to do anything. Take accountability for your actions.

AM= you stayed on a vote, on your own
WZ= you voted to Lynch me (find, idgaf, but didn't save cubs)
genny= you helped Lynch cubs

But somehow this is all magically my fault? K.
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What part of me unlynching barks and staying off the cubs wagon is inconsistent with my stated feelings about both?

Yeah, I thought the cubs lynch was lame. No, I'm not going to stay on a PR claim to prevent it :shrug:
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Thought you were talking about Genny's comment.

I find it interesting y'all think I should've been the one creating some sort of other bandwagon against barks, whose claim I already said I doubted. But none of y'all tried to do anything. Take accountability for your actions.

AM= you stayed on a vote, on your own
WZ= you voted to Lynch me (find, idgaf, but didn't save cubs)
genny= you helped Lynch cubs

But somehow this is all magically my fault? K.
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I think people are just trying to say if you feel with conviction that cubs was a villager and you want them alive then you kinda have to steer things and push people. And it’s unfortunate, because I felt the same about cubs but couldn’t figure out a viable candidate to push people to so close to lynch close. And yeah you can be mad at those people who say oh I thought cubs was village and didn’t do anything to change it myself included. And that’s fine go vote for all those people. I’ve just learned generally if you strongly feel a way about a person you aren’t going to convince people easily, you have to push hard and that’s a skill I’m still trying to learn. Hopefully this makes some sense I feel like I’m rambling.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
If y'all are just trying to be mean or something, just BE MEAN. Stop dancing around and just talk clearly and with conviction. This game is so ****ing annoying honestly. Getting off now.
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So I don't want to sound condescending, especially since I'm pretty crappy at being a villager like 75% of the time and I don't want to be hypocritical either. But I'm just trying to help you understand why voting to lynch someone who has claimed a power role is usually a bad idea in my opinion. I'm trying to help you be a better villager. I've played this game a lot, and I thought I could give you some advice/feedback with a side of snark, but you've taken it entirely too personally. Sorry, I didn't want to make you feel attacked.
 
~*~*~*~*~*~
I have submissions for all night actions and can close early

If you wish to change, please let me know in the next 30 minutes (11:15pm). Thank you!
~*~*~*~*~*~
 
Hopefully I didn't make too many errors here...

Day 1 Lynch Tracker

killer (1) - sobsob
grebes (1) - AM
cheezit (1) - skilary
AM (1) - capri
AM (2) - MSU
MSU (1) - barks
capri (1) - grebes
dubz (1) - sportsport
AM (3) - dubz
dubz (2) - killer
barks (1) - zig
Killer (0) - sobsob
cubs (1) - sobsob
sobsob (1) - cubs
cubs (2) - mpm
sobsob (0) - cubs
AM (2) - MSU
dubz (3) - SAR
zig (1) - cheez
AM (1) - dubz
barks (2) - dubz
sporty (1) - genny
cheez (2) - dolphin
barks (3) - mutts
cubs (3) - MJ
barks (4) - snowy
coffee? (1) - cubs
grebes (1) - AM
snowy (1) - AM
sporty (0) - genny
cubs (4) - genny
dubz (2) - SAR
coffee? (2) - SAR
coffee? (1) - cubs
barks (5) - cubs
dubz (3) - dina
dubz (2) - sport
coffee? (2) - sport
genny (1) - MSU
barks (4) - dubz
coffee (3) - dubz
mutts (1) - coffee
coffee (2) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
capri (2) - bj
barks (3) - mutts
capri (3) - mutts
snowy (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz
 
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SnowshoeDog143 said:
Okay fair since I missed that comment.
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Did you?

I was thinking maybe a wolf or two was lurking so they wouldn't necessarily catch crap for staying on the lynch. Unsure how I feel about you being around and staying on it. There were multiple references to it as well beyond barks's initial comment.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why?
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Those on my sketch list today were barks, cubs, and capri. Didn't want to vote barks and cubs was coming off as noob as the day progressed. Capri contributed her "dartboard" vote and then some math and comments that were not analytical in anyway, just commentary on things like avatars and people's profile pictures. So she was around for at least a couple of times, but did not post anything of substance.

ziggyandjazzy said:
Don't see how that could've been missed. Seems like everyone caught it.

Y'all can make me feel even more of a worthless villager and then just Lynch me tomorrow if she gets NKd or some ****. It's literally like nothing I ever do is ever seen as right, ever.
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No one is trying to make you feel bad, I promise.

WildZoo said:
Would like to hear more about this vote
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See above🙂
 
WildZoo said:
Did you?

I was thinking maybe a wolf or two was lurking so they wouldn't necessarily catch crap for staying on the lynch. Unsure how I feel about you being around and staying on it. There were multiple references to it as well beyond barks's initial comment.
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I mean I did. But think what you want.

I don't agree that the wolves would have stayed on barks if they were around and paying attention. I wouldn't see a wolf doing that unless the PR is also a wolf you later want cred for suspecting (aka zigs) or if you were sure they would go down if you kept your vote there. Now for me not paying attention and barks not really coming close to being lynched is really just taken as not paying attention well enough - could have done that as village or a wolf.. doesn't determine my affiliation either way. It's just not useful for a wolf to sit on a known PR when they aren't going down and will probably be night killed if the protector isn't paying attention.
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
I mean I did. But think what you want.

I don't agree that the wolves would have stayed on barks if they were around and paying attention. I wouldn't see a wolf doing that unless the PR is also a wolf you later want cred for suspecting (aka zigs) or if you were sure they would go down if you kept your vote there. Now for me not paying attention and barks not really coming close to being lynched is really just taken as not paying attention well enough - could have done that as village or a wolf.. doesn't determine my affiliation either way. It's just not useful for a wolf to sit on a known PR when they aren't going down and will probably be night killed if the protector isn't paying attention.
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How was barks not close to being lynched?
 
Night 1
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stratton.jpg

The skiers debated where to go next. Since Tenney had proven so difficult, they wondered if perhaps New Hampshire was not for them, so they hopped into their cars and made their way across state lines to Stratton, VT. What they found at Stratton Mountain Resort was a perfectly acceptable ski mountain, albeit a little too "corporate" for some tastes. One skier got bored of the widely groomed beginner trails and decided to go off on her own to explore untouched terrain. It was the last the group ever saw of her.

Dead is @bryndiana.jones , Stratton - Vanillager.

Coordinates 43°06′51″N 72°54′24″
Vertical 2,003 ft (611 m)
Top elevation 3,875 ft (1,181 m)
Base elevation 1,872 ft (571 m)
Skiable area 625 acres (253 ha)
Runs 97
40% Novice
35% Intermediate
16% Advanced
9% Expert
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​
*Skiers*
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @WildZoo
4. @Dinashadow
6. @mypetmoose
7. @Skimble
8. @grebes4lyfe
9. @muttmanager
10. @genny
11. @SARdoghandler
12. @StartingoverVet
13. @ziggyandjazzy
14. @CoffeeQuestionMark
15. @Melchizedek
16. @dolphin106258
17. @Barkley13
18. @capri1722
19. @Mad Jack
20. @SportPonies
21. @MSUcvmHOPE
22. @SnowshoeDog143
23. @killerleaf

*Après-Ski*
3. @cubsrule4e - Tenney, Vanillager
5. @bryndiana.jones - Stratton - Vanillager

21/23 remaining.
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CURRENT SNOW REPORT FOR STRATTON MOUNTAIN
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29th 2019
Snow: Machine groomed | Base Depth: 20" | Summit Depth: 28"
Lifts open: 9/11
Runs open: 78/94
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It is now DAY TWO.

Lynch will close at 10pm Eastern Time

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PippyPony said:
~Please check your votes~

D1 Puppy Slope Skiing Tally

Killerleaf () -
grebes () -
Mel (2) - Skilary, dolphin
AM (1) - capri
MSU () -
Capri (3) - Grebes, Bryndi, mutts
WZ (2) - killerleaf, dina
Barks (3) - Ziggy, snowy, cubs
Cubs (5) - SOV, petmoosy, MJ, genny, Barks
SOV () -
Zigjaz (2) - Mel, dubz
Sporty () -
Coffee (2) - SAR, sporty
Snowy (1) - AM
genny (1) - MSU
Mutts (1) - coffeebean

23/23 voting :heckyeah:

Please consider sending in your night actions early!

Lynch closed

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I feel like I'm losing my mind. Can anyone find the post where mutts moved to capri?
 
muttmanager said:
Don’t lynch me. I’m catching up now.

To coffees “reasoning”
I don’t usually use rl but I’m taking an evening class and work is s****y rn so I am not able to be as active as usual until early am or close to lynch close and the barks lynch were my strongest feels the math didn’t seem like strong reasoning to vote there but still sketchy

I saw something barks wrote so ##unlynch barks, lynch Capri##





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WildZoo said:
I feel like I'm losing my mind. Can anyone find the post where mutts moved to capri?
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