2008-2009 UCLA/Drew Secondary Application Thread

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Hey yall. I called today to see what my status was and I was told that in the next couple of weeks I should have a decision on my file. We shall see what happens. If anybody is curious, I interviewed on 11/15. We just have to be patient, keep praying and believing! Our time will come. Good luck on your interview KittyCoo, knock'em out! God bless yall!

*GULP!*

Oh man this is some good news. I really thought we wouldn't be hearing from them until February.

Well I hope everything works out for everyone. I'm guessing it will be 2 weeks from now that the first decisions will be notified.

Ladies and gentlemen, our finest hour approaches!
 
WOOO HOOOO!!!!

I called today just to check out the status of my application and I was told that I was invited for an interview via e-mail on 12/18. I never received the e-mail so I would have not known at all, My interview is on 1/24. I purchased my plane ticket within 10 minutes of getting off the phone with Ms. Rodriguez. I'm sooooo excited, my entire family recently moved to califorrnia and left me in Houston, TX. I really pray that I get accepted and move to be closer to them.

Anyone else interviewing on 1/24????
 
congrats marissa, you cut it close. Drew is an awesome program I am sure you will love it.
 
Why is this thread so dead???

The program makes it's decisions VERY meticulously so any new news happens at a slower pace compared to other schools.

Well if it is any consolation here is an update for those who interviewed:
The admissions committee will meet next week (not this week). They will make the very first decisions then and send notifications! Brace yourselves guys...
 
Thing is they have been saying that the "committee will meet next week" ever since the interview. So I have pretty much gave up waiting.
 
They told me "next week" like 2 weeks ago! lol. I really really hope this is the week (really really). do you guys think the rolling admissions thing is what is causing the lag? Has ANYBODY gotten in yet, or are we all waiting for a 25 seat list all at once?
 
I think it was said before that they wait to see a lot of applicants before they admit anyone just because they only offer 24 spots. So it sucks for the applicant but only thing you can do is keep hoping and praying.
 
to be honest, the admissions process for drew is longer than most programs because we only accept 24 students. so we think about our acceptances longer than most other programs. i would not hold my breath for the 4-6 weeks post-interview. I mean if you think about it, we do not have enough students who have interviewed yet to be able to compare you to the rest of our pool so it would be premature for us to offer acceptances that early. if anything, rejections go out that early, but if we're thinking about accepting you, you'll go to several rounds of adcom meetings to make sure youre still as good as the top of every interviewing batch.

i think if you look at previous years you will find that acceptances start to roll around feb-march and then there will be a little, not much, waitlist movement.

be patient. you've interviewed, your app is complete...you've done everything you can do. unfortunately now you have the hardest part of the process...the painful wait 😉

I was hoping that we'd hear something by mid January, but it's looking like acl3623's estimate of Feb or Mar is more and more likely. We can only sit tight, pray, and hope we hear decisions earlier. And the waiting continues...
 
I was just hoping that interviewing early gave us an advantage but since its not truly rolling admissions interviewing time really doesnt matter. 🙁
 
I was just hoping that interviewing early gave us an advantage but since its not truly rolling admissions interviewing time really doesnt matter. 🙁

Ugh... I was thinking the same thing.
 
Does anyone know when they finish interviewing everyone? I would assume that since they only accept 24 of us that they are waiting till they finish interviewing? If this is the case, it means we all have an equal chance of getting accepted. Here's hoping.... :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
when did you send in your secondary? congrats!!

I submitted my primary in late august, received Secondary on 10/22

I submitted Secondary on 12/11 and received interview invite on 12/18 (But I never received it this day) I called admissions on 1/9 and they told me my interview was scheduled on 1/24

By no means do I have a spectacular MCAT or GPA, I just have hundreds of hours spending time in the low income communities of Houston. I come from an immigrant family where more than half of my family members are in the US illegally and have absolutely NO access to healthcare. My passion for helping the underserved is extremely strong, this is my reason for wanting to attend Drew.

I'm sooooo excited!!!😀
 
Does anyone know how Drew considers OOS applicants??

I was raised in TX and currently live here, my dad lives in LA and my mom and sisters live in San Jose. I lived in cali for 2 yrs during high school. Although I have strong ties to CA, I still am considered OOS.

Do they prefer in-state students??
 
i think drew might be little more OOS friendly than other UCs because i saw a few OOSers at my interview.
 
For those of you who interviewed at Drew or live in the LA area....

I'm coming in town on Friday to interview and I want to get alot of sightseeing done next weekend also. I really want to see what the city of LA has to offer me if I decide to move there. Can yall make any suggestions of things to see or do or places to go next weekend while I am in LA? I just really want to get a feel for the city in the event that I get accepted and move there.

Thanks in Advance!
 
Hi everyone! I just got an interview here, so I have a few questions. I've heard everything from Drew is a great program to that its a horrible program. I've heard that students are looked down upon, that the rotations are a mess and that if you go here you can't specialize. What do you guys know?
 
Drew is awesome if you are interested in underprivlieged work. Specialization are possible because you are still getting UCLA education. Rotations are much more like ucla geffen students now because Drew medical center inpatient wing is closed. But you great experience where you are the primary care provider at the king drew outpatient clinic for patients, this means you are their primary doctor. You dont get this at geffen.

Drew is awesome.
 
Hi hitherefriend. The information on Drew is a little more sparse than other programs on SDN, but there's still a lot. A current ms4 gave some insight on the program earlier in this thread, which I've pasted in the post. I think Drew is an awesome program, mixing the best of a top medical school curriculum with a mission to train physicians in service of underprivledged populations. So if you genuinely have an interest in serving underserved patients then the Drew/UCLA program is the best place in the country to be. As far as having problems specializing, look at the last paragraph of acl3623's post at the bottom. I don't think Drew students have any sort of problem getting into highly competitive residencies. If anything, it may be the case that a sizeable portion of Drew students choose to go into primary care because they want to give back to their perspective communities and have that close interaction with patients there. I think that's a conscious choice and not the result of having limited options.

In regards to comments that say Drew is a horrible program and that Drew students are looked down on, I think they generally fall into two categories. Some comments are based on the misconception that since MLK hospital has been shut down, that Drew students are getting sub-standard training. That simply is not the case. The first two years are the exact same as David Geffen students. The last two years of rotations are done at UCLA affilitated hospitals, same as Geffen. Probably the biggest difference is that most Drew students choose to go to Oliveview and Harbor because it provides the closest substitute to MLK (training with underserved populations). The other group of comments are generally from people with elitest attititudes. Some have the feeling that Drew/UCLA program is a backdoor into UCLA and/or that students with substandard stats get to have a position at UCLA somehow making all their hard work and accomplishments less valued. They totally negate what Drew's mission is all about, and that mission, above numbers, is what's important. Let me remind you that UCLA PRIME has that same mission. I generally dislike comments that fall under the elitest category as I believe that there's much more to medicine than high stats, though everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if some are short-sighted. I will say that I don't think Drew students are, in any way, substandard students, just check the AOA paragraph below.

hi guys,
im currently a ms4 at drew and although i rarely get the chance to post here, ill try to answer some quick q's that ive seen on the thread.

1. i really dont know much about the PRIME program, so not much help there.

2. there is nothing that differentiates the straight ucla md program from drew the first 2 years. this includes lectures, physical diagnosis, pbl, doctoring, etc. you're all there to get your basic physiology background and to pass exams. and to answer a q on a previous post, yes drew is pass/fail just like geffen.

3. the difference in the program is in years 3 and 4. yes, as previously pointed out, we now use the other ucla affiliated hospitals as rotation sites, including westwood, oliveview, west la va, santa monica, cedars, and harbor. most drew students choose county (oliveview and harbor) as these provide relatively the same experience as mlk did. as a drew student, you will also not do regular doctoring/preceptor (yay!) which is a total waste of time for regular ucla students. instead you will have your own primary care experience in an outpatient clinic in south central where you will follow your own patients and get teaching from faculty that primarily work with the poor. you will also be responsible for putting together a thesis research project, which is much more involved than the regular "scholarly" project most ucla students do. your thesis is a real research project which requires a protocol, irb approval, etc.

4. Drew faculty have taken a variety of jobs. you forget these people are accomplished academic m.d.'s that have a unique experience in treating the most underserved of the country, so it is of no surprise that their skills are wanted/needed. many either went out into the community or took faculty positions at usc, harbor, etc. there is certainly no shortage of jobs in LA county. some are also still at drew and do research out of there.

5. Where are the patients that mlk used to serve? being underserved! of course it is no surprise that these patients have to go somewhere, most are going to harbor (hence last years overcrowding citation on their ed) or usc where they have long wait times and barely adequate follow up. trust me, they did not disappear into thin air...

so you can be certain that now more than ever LA county's uninsured and underserved need physicians like us that are willing to get our hands dirty and work serving one of the most challenging yet grateful populations in medicine. theyre the reason the drew program has been so successful and will continue to attract the best in the country.

oh yea somewhere i saw a post that was asking about specializing if you go to drew...lets just saw 1/3 of the AOA class at UCLA (7 out of 21- which takes into account ucla/drew/riverside/mstp) was drew. and you can bet that were being highly recruited into every specialty from derm, rads, anesthesia, urology, em, etc. needless to say if youre one of the lucky 24, youre definitely in for the best 4 years of your life. good luck!
 
I like the fact that most Drew students go to Olive view and Harbor. I had an MS4 geffen friend who told me that alot of geffen students wanted to spend more time in those hospitals because they were given more autonomy and better training compared to Reagan hospital, which gets a lot of upscale patients. My interviewer was a MS4 also and he agreed with that sentiment.
 
I have an odd question let me see if anyone can give me an input. If you get interviewed by a student instead of a faculty is it a disadvantage? Say you really impress the faculty member what they say during meeting will probably hold alot of weight compared to maybe what a student might say.
 
I have an odd question let me see if anyone can give me an input. If you get interviewed by a student instead of a faculty is it a disadvantage? Say you really impress the faculty member what they say during meeting will probably hold alot of weight compared to maybe what a student might say.

Hi asakkings. I've been wondering the same thing. I was interviewed by an ms4 and I feel that it went really well. I don't think, or at least I hope it doesn't it puts me at a disadvantage. If that's the case then most of the people that interviewed during my interview day would be at a disadvantage as there were twice as many ms4's than faculty that were interviewing. I think what it comes down to is how well they perceived you, possibly in comparison to other candidates they've already interviewed, and how well they can articulate their thoughts about you to the admissions committee. Though I could definitely be wrong. Can anyone else shed some light on the issue?
 
yea my interviewer was really cool, I looked him up later on when trying to send him a thank you note and found out that he is the president of medical student association for all ucla med students. pretty coool
 
Thanks for all the info guys, I love the idea of Drew but I just didn't know if I would be getting myself into a bad situation. Sounds like everything is solid!
 
Hi everyone! I just got an interview here, so I have a few questions. I've heard everything from Drew is a great program to that its a horrible program. I've heard that students are looked down upon, that the rotations are a mess and that if you go here you can't specialize. What do you guys know?

I archived links to the most useful threads concerning the program on SDN. They answer all your questions so I'll copy them for you:

Threads talk about the accreditation issue. Info from current program students clear up everything -- SUMMARY: No problems.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=322571
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=476097

The UCLA/DREW MEP thread by candidates for the fall 2006 class. You could see how different hopefuls progressed.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=258677

The UCLA/DREW MEP thread by candidates for the fall 2007 class. Very good source of info.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=377031

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For those of you who interviewed at Drew or live in the LA area....

I'm coming in town on Friday to interview and I want to get alot of sightseeing done next weekend also. I really want to see what the city of LA has to offer me if I decide to move there. Can yall make any suggestions of things to see or do or places to go next weekend while I am in LA? I just really want to get a feel for the city in the event that I get accepted and move there.

Thanks in Advance!
I go to LA county pretty often so I suggest you convince your family to take you to Universal City Walk and Universal Studios if you have not been there. It's a lot closer than Disneyland to LA and it will definitely be entertaining. I'm not really sure what your tastes are but I think you will find something enjoyable since they added a ton of attractions 🙂. I also suggest you go through the Hollywood Walk of Fame to see spectacles you will never see elsewhere. I know these ideas may sound corny but you can definitely fill your scrapbook with memories.

If you are up for more adult attractions, there are tons of clubs near Hollywood alive at night. If you bring a lot of girls with you, you'll get in for free. Just look them up online for specific venues. There are also huge malls everywhere you can do just about anything -- the Promenade being one example. And of course there is Chinatown, Koreatown, X-town with good food to eat.
 
I would recommend go to santa monica pier and the promenade, its pretty nice. And if you out and about in beverly hills check out sprinkles cupcakes, i love those little things. You can also go see ucla because that is where you will be spending the first 2 years.
 
I have an odd question let me see if anyone can give me an input. If you get interviewed by a student instead of a faculty is it a disadvantage? Say you really impress the faculty member what they say during meeting will probably hold alot of weight compared to maybe what a student might say.

youre definitely not at a disadvantage 🙂 The faculty at Drew are extremely receptive and take our assessments very seriously. Since we're currently in the process, we're more in touch with what you'll be going through and can quickly tell if you're truly a good fit. so no worries there.
 
thanks for that response acl, i am much more at ease now.
 
youre definitely not at a disadvantage 🙂 The faculty at Drew are extremely receptive and take our assessments very seriously. Since we're currently in the process, we're more in touch with what you'll be going through and can quickly tell if you're truly a good fit. so no worries there.

Hello, just wondering how you can tell quickly if someone is a good fit?
 
I guess it would be just a gut feeling and being able to read people. Good luck on your interview.
 
bump, its been couple of weeks since people started saying it will be couple of weeks for decision. Anyone hear anything.
 
bump, its been couple of weeks since people started saying it will be couple of weeks for decision. Anyone hear anything.

All silent here on the home front!
 
Its ok man we will hear something good soon keep praying, thats all we can do at this time
 
OK so i just got a call back from miss sandy rodriguez. She told me that the files have been reviewed by the Drew committee and all of the have been sent to UCLA committee now where they will be reviewed by them. Than the final decision will be made. So it seems like we have longer nerve recking wait.
 
Thanks for the info assakings. I wonder how many were sent to be reviewed and how long it'll take for the UCLA committee to review. Hopefully we'll hear back soon. Good luck to everyone waiting to hear and also to those who are interviewing.
 
Has anyone else heard anything? KippocalypsE, who did you get your phone call from? Man, you have truly been blessed today. Congrats again.
 
It is kind of odd that sandy would call me to tell me that files are waiting to be reviewed by ucla and kippocalypse would get an acceptance on same day. I wonder if they sent them to ucla in batches.
 
Congrats to those of you who were accepted! Does anyone know when Drew orientation is? I know I saw on some thread that it is in July but I can't find that thread or a Drew calendar anywhere. Just wondering bc I'm planning a trip this summer and if I am lucky enough to get admitted I don't want it to conflict. Thanks everyone, and good luck!
 
I got the call from Sandy at work today. Best phone call ever! Hang in there everyone...your phone call will come soon enough. Congrats to all the fellow future Drew/Bruins!
 
I got the call from Sandy at work today. Best phone call ever! Hang in there everyone...your phone call will come soon enough. Congrats to all the fellow future Drew/Bruins!

What time did she call you guys?
 
Wow! Congratulations KippocalypsE!!

wow congrats dude

Congrats KippocalypsE! That is a blessing! Is Charles Drew your #1? If you don't mind me asking.

Thanks guys.
:hardy::soexcited::clap::claps::banana::diebanana:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBrzEVJwYFg

This is legit joy I'm getting. Right now I just feel good. I just finished a marathon phone calling session telling all my friends and family of the news just to remind myself I ACTUALLY GOT IN. Yes I agree with all of you, it is a blessing. My mother and aunt were telling me how much they have been praying lately and I see their investment has collected interest!

Yes BlackDr2b, the CDU/UCLA MEP is my number one choice. I have interviewed in the east coast and although the programs there are good, I don't think they have the same noble mission this program has (plus the weather there is atrocious). The only other programs that are attracting me are ones in Florida since they follow a similar mission, but being a child of California makes it hard for me to turn this program down.

Has anyone else heard anything? KippocalypsE, who did you get your phone call from? Man, you have truly been blessed today. Congrats again.

I got a phone call from Sandy. She mentioned that the admissions committee just met previously (I guess the two week estimation she gave was correct) and made their decisions. She called my house some time after 5 pm to give me the news that I have been accepted. I have not received an email prior to or following the call. However, she said I would be receiving an acceptance package in the mail. If I get any more news I will make sure to update you guys since she told me to call her if I have any questions.

Man I am really glad I found SDN. I would never have signed up to the program unless I found out about it through here. It has been a great place to gain valuable information about the whole process. I especially love the miracle of the forums since the successes of the past are archived so I can reference the great habits of those before me. This is such a pivotal moment of my life. Just yesterday we inaugurated the first minority president. Today I gained a right to be a future healer.

-KippocalypsE
 
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