2009-2010 Wayne State Application Thread

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I believe that you are correct...it is just weird that my waitlist letter says that it is the 29th...what is on the 19th?

It was the 29th, but admissions pushed it back to May 5th for whatever reason

Thank you :bow:

May 15th can't come soon enough! Hopefully, we'll all get some good news close to that date.

I was wondering if people from the waitlist can get an acceptance before May 15th? Or is only after May 15th?

People who are on the waitlist are considered during every acceptance cycle. What my interpretation of how the cycles work is that the applicants each round get a ranking and there is a cumulative list with everyone who has interviewed thus far. Then from that list, the 1/7 th of the class size gets offered admission (from the top of the cumulative list). If you interviewed with a really strong group of applicants during your cycle, there might have been a lot of other good applicants that received a ranking higher than yours, pushing you into the waitlist category. If the following cycle had a decent amount of applicants ranking lower than you, most likely you will be taken off the waitlist that cycle. At the end of the seven rounds, 290 offers have been given, and after May 15th potential students need to make a decision on whether or not they plan to matriculate. With the withdrawn applications, the committee starts at the top of their list and begins offering admissions to fill their class.

From everything I have gathered thus far, I am pretty sure this is how the admissions process works at Wayne.
 
It was the 29th, but admissions pushed it back to May 5th for whatever reason



People who are on the waitlist are considered during every acceptance cycle. What my interpretation of how the cycles work is that the applicants each round get a ranking and there is a cumulative list with everyone who has interviewed thus far. Then from that list, the 1/7 th of the class size gets offered admission (from the top of the cumulative list). If you interviewed with a really strong group of applicants during your cycle, there might have been a lot of other good applicants that received a ranking higher than yours, pushing you into the waitlist category. If the following cycle had a decent amount of applicants ranking lower than you, most likely you will be taken off the waitlist that cycle. At the end of the seven rounds, 290 offers have been given, and after May 15th potential students need to make a decision on whether or not they plan to matriculate. With the withdrawn applications, the committee starts at the top of their list and begins offering admissions to fill their class.

From everything I have gathered thus far, I am pretty sure this is how the admissions process works at Wayne.


thanks for the description, really helps clear up a few things about the process!
 
It was the 29th, but admissions pushed it back to May 5th for whatever reason



People who are on the waitlist are considered during every acceptance cycle. What my interpretation of how the cycles work is that the applicants each round get a ranking and there is a cumulative list with everyone who has interviewed thus far. Then from that list, the 1/7 th of the class size gets offered admission (from the top of the cumulative list). If you interviewed with a really strong group of applicants during your cycle, there might have been a lot of other good applicants that received a ranking higher than yours, pushing you into the waitlist category. If the following cycle had a decent amount of applicants ranking lower than you, most likely you will be taken off the waitlist that cycle. At the end of the seven rounds, 290 offers have been given, and after May 15th potential students need to make a decision on whether or not they plan to matriculate. With the withdrawn applications, the committee starts at the top of their list and begins offering admissions to fill their class.

From everything I have gathered thus far, I am pretty sure this is how the admissions process works at Wayne.

Yeah this is exactly what I thought too. Expect they told me that no one gets an official rank until after 5/15. What I think this means is that after 5/15 they will send out rejections to the people at the bottom of the list because they most likely will not get in. Then they maybe quickly go everyone and re-rank if necessary (i.e. update letters, transcripts, etc.)

Anyways I wish they would tell us the rank so we know if we should wait or not!!!!!!
 
Originally Posted by Hopeful03
It was the 29th, but admissions pushed it back to May 5th for whatever reason



People who are on the waitlist are considered during every acceptance cycle. What my interpretation of how the cycles work is that the applicants each round get a ranking and there is a cumulative list with everyone who has interviewed thus far. Then from that list, the 1/7 th of the class size gets offered admission (from the top of the cumulative list). If you interviewed with a really strong group of applicants during your cycle, there might have been a lot of other good applicants that received a ranking higher than yours, pushing you into the waitlist category. If the following cycle had a decent amount of applicants ranking lower than you, most likely you will be taken off the waitlist that cycle. At the end of the seven rounds, 290 offers have been given, and after May 15th potential students need to make a decision on whether or not they plan to matriculate. With the withdrawn applications, the committee starts at the top of their list and begins offering admissions to fill their class.

From everything I have gathered thus far, I am pretty sure this is how the admissions process works at Wayne.


Yeah this is exactly what I thought too. Expect they told me that no one gets an official rank until after 5/15. What I think this means is that after 5/15 they will send out rejections to the people at the bottom of the list because they most likely will not get in. Then they maybe quickly go everyone and re-rank if necessary (i.e. update letters, transcripts, etc.)

Anyways I wish they would tell us the rank so we know if we should wait or not!!!!!!



Yea, that sounds about right to me, Hopeful.

I was just in the admissions office the other day talking with two of the secretaries... We get ranked at the most immediate committee meeting (typically the Monday) after our interview. Essentially, I think very little goes on by the admissions committee (as far as the things we are interested in) after the last meeting in early May. We all have a rating from 1 to 3.0. Lets say I'm I have a 2.65. If they get that low, you'll be accepted that round, if not, then nothing changes.
 
Yeah this is exactly what I thought too. Expect they told me that no one gets an official rank until after 5/15. What I think this means is that after 5/15 they will send out rejections to the people at the bottom of the list because they most likely will not get in. Then they maybe quickly go everyone and re-rank if necessary (i.e. update letters, transcripts, etc.)

Anyways I wish they would tell us the rank so we know if we should wait or not!!!!!!

Thanks for the explanation. I wish we could find out our ranks as well so plans can be made for next year!

Out of curiosity though, what are some plans that some of you have come up with if Wayne State is not meant to be next year? I was thinking working and volunteering abroad and of course, reapplying =)
 
MFC, consider applying to the NIH post-baccalaureate program if you're interested in research. You get to spend a year at one of the greatest facilities in the world with the opportunity to learn from great academic clinicians and scientists. I did it for 2 years and also had time to volunteer at organizations in DC as well as attending rounds with clinicians conducting clinical trials. Also, MPH is another option but deadlines have passed for upcoming fall. Hope this helps.

http://www.training.nih.gov/student/pre-irta/previewpostbac.asp
 
Thanks for the explanation. I wish we could find out our ranks as well so plans can be made for next year!

Out of curiosity though, what are some plans that some of you have come up with if Wayne State is not meant to be next year? I was thinking working and volunteering abroad and of course, reapplying =)

I should re-apply but I'm just really ready to move on. So I'm going to be heading out to SGU if I don't get in. I have considered other options but at this point I don't want to be a pre-med anymore, I have been for too long. I'm 25 and just want to get started in med school. Hopefully I'll get off a list (I'm on 2) so we'll see!
 
I should re-apply but I'm just really ready to move on. So I'm going to be heading out to SGU if I don't get in. I have considered other options but at this point I don't want to be a pre-med anymore, I have been for too long. I'm 25 and just want to get started in med school. Hopefully I'll get off a list (I'm on 2) so we'll see!

good luck, i hope all the best for you
 
MFC, consider applying to the NIH post-baccalaureate program if you're interested in research. You get to spend a year at one of the greatest facilities in the world with the opportunity to learn from great academic clinicians and scientists. I did it for 2 years and also had time to volunteer at organizations in DC as well as attending rounds with clinicians conducting clinical trials. Also, MPH is another option but deadlines have passed for upcoming fall. Hope this helps.

http://www.training.nih.gov/student/pre-irta/previewpostbac.asp

Thanks!! This is very helpful 🙂
 
I should re-apply but I'm just really ready to move on. So I'm going to be heading out to SGU if I don't get in. I have considered other options but at this point I don't want to be a pre-med anymore, I have been for too long. I'm 25 and just want to get started in med school. Hopefully I'll get off a list (I'm on 2) so we'll see!

I wish you the best =) Here's to hoping you make it off the waitlist!
 
I apologize if this has been answered already, but when May 5th rolls around, are we going to get a decision letter no matter what (another Alternate List letter), or will we only receive a decision letter if we have been accepted?
 
I apologize if this has been answered already, but when May 5th rolls around, are we going to get a decision letter no matter what (another Alternate List letter), or will we only receive a decision letter if we have been accepted?

I am almost positive that it is just another offer date. So we all should receive a letter. People can correct me if I am wrong though. I think we will all see more wl movement after May 15th...I am not expecting to see a change on May 5th (even though it is my bday...ugh its going to be a bad day lol)
 
I am almost positive that it is just another offer date. So we all should receive a letter. People can correct me if I am wrong though. I think we will all see more wl movement after May 15th...I am not expecting to see a change on May 5th (even though it is my bday...ugh its going to be a bad day lol)


I believe you are correct!
 
I am almost positive that it is just another offer date. So we all should receive a letter. People can correct me if I am wrong though. I think we will all see more wl movement after May 15th...I am not expecting to see a change on May 5th (even though it is my bday...ugh its going to be a bad day lol)

Gotcha. I'm not expecting anything on May 5th either, haha. And I can sympathize with you in a way: May 6th, the day after, is my graduation. So it could potentially be a really good graduation, or just a blah one that passes with little fanfare. I think I'm too focused on what Fall 2010 will look like for me to fully enjoy the end of my undergraduate career.
 
Gotcha. I'm not expecting anything on May 5th either, haha. And I can sympathize with you in a way: May 6th, the day after, is my graduation. So it could potentially be a really good graduation, or just a blah one that passes with little fanfare. I think I'm too focused on what Fall 2010 will look like for me to fully enjoy the end of my undergraduate career.

I am in the exact same position. My graduation is May 1st... I am on 2 waitlists. Graduation feels very empty without having anything better to move on. Good luck to you though...hang in there!
 
I am in the exact same position. My graduation is May 1st... I am on 2 waitlists. Graduation feels very empty without having anything better to move on. Good luck to you though...hang in there!

Dude, thats much better than being on only 1 waitlist. I wish I was you.
 
Dude, thats much better than being on only 1 waitlist. I wish I was you.

Haha, I second that.

So let's say none of us on the waitlist made it. If we reapplied, how much weight does the fact of reapplying figure in on our application? Does Wayne place more consideration on people who are coming back after being turned down once (or twice, or thrice)?
 
reapplicants have to make significant improvements. As long as you show those improvements you will be fine. But if you apply again next cycle with essentially the same app, you may not even get an interview the next time.
 
reapplicants have to make significant improvements. As long as you show those improvements you will be fine. But if you apply again next cycle with essentially the same app, you may not even get an interview the next time.

What constitutes significant improvement? I contacted UIC and asked them what I could do to be a stronger applicant (I was rejected pre-interview), and he said I had a good MCAT and good GPA; I just had to continue doing my extracurriculars to increase consistency and get my application in earlier. Relatively speaking, I expected him to say crazier things, like obtain a publication or two, complete a post-bacc degree, etc. I guess his idea of "significant improvement" wasn't really too much more to do, in my opinion. What do you think?

I could think of a few things I will consider before reapplying, but please share your thoughts:
  • retake the MCAT
  • continue extracurriculars or increase investment on extracurriculars
  • get a job in the lab
  • post-bacc program
  • send in application much earlier (if you're me and turned in many of your applications late)
 
About how long did it take people to get their financial aid packet once all of the information was received by Wayne?
 
just another week and a half before another decision day, aka another day for us to get no change. I guess the good news is that they should double their offers in the next few months. lol. Good luck to all of you.
 
If we were to graph the numbers of offers as a trend line (offers as ordinate/y-axis, months on the abscissa/x-axis) from now until the first week of summers, which months or which parts of each month would we see peak numbers of offers?
 
If we were to graph the numbers of offers as a trend line (offers as ordinate/y-axis, months on the abscissa/x-axis) from now until the first week of summers, which months or which parts of each month would we see peak numbers of offers?

😕
 
Re: doubling their offers

I really hope so...
 
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If we were to graph the numbers of offers as a trend line (offers as ordinate/y-axis, months on the abscissa/x-axis) from now until the first week of summers, which months or which parts of each month would we see peak numbers of offers?

Just from looking at last years thread, I'd say anytime from mid-May to mid-June there should be a decent amount of offers, peaking around the first week or so of June. But there were still acceptances being handed out well into July as well.
 
Re: doubling their offers

I really hope so...

In 2008, they offered about double the class size in acceptances. But I also heard they over-accepted one year. One of the M2s that gave us the tour said that Wayne State offered money to students who deferred their acceptance a year because they were so over-accepted. I'm not sure when this was, but I believe it was 2007 or 2008.

But something definitely changed the whole process for Wayne ADCOM because they went from offering like 780 interviews or so in 2008 to offering over 1000 in 2009. Thats like a 25-30% increase in interviews in just one year. I have no idea why that happened. Obviously its to the school's advantage to see more students, but there certainly had to be a reason for the sudden jump. Maybe they had always interviewed around a thousand but they just took the number down in 2008 because they overaccepted in 2007? Who knows.

Hopefully no one will want to live in Detroit and more spots will open up for us 🙂 Regardless, I think AT LEAST 100 of us will get pulled off. Better than nothing I suppose.
 
In 2008, they offered about double the class size in acceptances. But I also heard they over-accepted one year. One of the M2s that gave us the tour said that Wayne State offered money to students who deferred their acceptance a year because they were so over-accepted. I'm not sure when this was, but I believe it was 2007 or 2008.

But something definitely changed the whole process for Wayne ADCOM because they went from offering like 780 interviews or so in 2008 to offering over 1000 in 2009. Thats like a 25-30% increase in interviews in just one year. I have no idea why that happened. Obviously its to the school's advantage to see more students, but there certainly had to be a reason for the sudden jump. Maybe they had always interviewed around a thousand but they just took the number down in 2008 because they overaccepted in 2007? Who knows.

Hopefully no one will want to live in Detroit and more spots will open up for us 🙂 Regardless, I think AT LEAST 100 of us will get pulled off. Better than nothing I suppose.

Thanks for the info, seanshah. Wow, so at least 100, you're thinking? And how deep do you think the waitlist is? I read a while ago on this thread that it may be a couple hundred deep.
 
In 2008, they offered about double the class size in acceptances. But I also heard they over-accepted one year. One of the M2s that gave us the tour said that Wayne State offered money to students who deferred their acceptance a year because they were so over-accepted. I'm not sure when this was, but I believe it was 2007 or 2008.

Yup, something like 50 people accepted to the class of 2011 took deferments in exchange for a years tuition and a spot in class of 2012.
 
Yup, something like 50 people accepted to the class of 2011 took deferments in exchange for a years tuition and a spot in class of 2012.

I would totally defer for a year's worth of tuition..that is awesome!
 
Thanks for the info, seanshah. Wow, so at least 100, you're thinking? And how deep do you think the waitlist is? I read a while ago on this thread that it may be a couple hundred deep.

I'm pretty sure that no one gets denied post-interview at Wayne State; everyone either gets accepted or waitlisted. I'd imagine if you got denied post-interview (without even getting waitlisted) you had to have said something REAL dumb in your interview... like:

Interviewer: "Tell me, Bill, why do you want to become a doctor?"

Bill: "So the ladies will call me McDreamy 😎"

Yea, regardless, I've never heard of anyone getting denied post-interview.

So to answer your question, I think we'll have literally around 700 people on the waitlist (assuming that they interviewed 1000 - 300 initial acceptances = 700 on the waitlist)

Granted, some of those waitlisters have and will continue to pull themselves off, but I'd still imagine the waitlist number to be in the several hundreds.

All in all, I think its safe to say that Wayne is many people's back-up school. So a good amount of people will forgo their acceptance at Wayne. Also, as we all know, Wayne's class size is huge so there are likely more people to be pulled off the waitlist.

In reality, it all sucks. I think its BS that they hand out waitlists to everyone and their grandmothers. and to mix some piss in with that bs, its ridiculous that they won't tell us our spot on the waitlist.

Any metro-detroiters willing to drink our sorrows away at the bar after the May 5th decision date?
 
I'm pretty sure that no one gets denied post-interview at Wayne State; everyone either gets accepted or waitlisted. I'd imagine if you got denied post-interview (without even getting waitlisted) you had to have said something REAL dumb in your interview... like:

Interviewer: "Tell me, Bill, why do you want to become a doctor?"

Bill: "So the ladies will call me McDreamy 😎"

Yea, regardless, I've never heard of anyone getting denied post-interview.

So to answer your question, I think we'll have literally around 700 people on the waitlist (assuming that they interviewed 1000 - 300 initial acceptances = 700 on the waitlist)

Granted, some of those waitlisters have and will continue to pull themselves off, but I'd still imagine the waitlist number to be in the several hundreds.

All in all, I think its safe to say that Wayne is many people's back-up school. So a good amount of people will forgo their acceptance at Wayne. Also, as we all know, Wayne's class size is huge so there are likely more people to be pulled off the waitlist.

In reality, it all sucks. I think its BS that they hand out waitlists to everyone and their grandmothers. and to mix some piss in with that bs, its ridiculous that they won't tell us our spot on the waitlist.

Any metro-detroiters willing to drink our sorrows away at the bar after the May 5th decision date?


Wow this was kind of depressing...I'll be drinking here in CA in spirit!
 
Hey guys,

Good news for many of you. I am OOS and plan on withdrawing my acceptance really soon. Im like 99% sure I am not going to Wayne, great school, but too expensive for OOS. I hope one of you guys gets my spot.

There is going to be a lot of waitlist movement, its just that everyone is holding on to their spots til the last second.

Good luck.
 
From all of the admission statistics I have looked at from Wayne State SOM, I think its safe to say that roughly the top half of the waitlist will be accepted. To bad we don't know whether or not we are in the top half!
 
From all of the admission statistics I have looked at from Wayne State SOM, I think its safe to say that roughly the top half of the waitlist will be accepted. To bad we don't know whether or not we are in the top half!

Is there a reason why we shouldn't know? I don't understand the point of keep it a secret...
 
Is there a reason why we shouldn't know? I don't understand the point of keep it a secret...

I agree, it makes no sense to me either. Last year, on or around their last decision date, Wayne denied a few people near the bottom of the waitlist. I think it was a few dozen people.
 
I agree, it makes no sense to me either. Last year, on or around their last decision date, Wayne denied a few people near the bottom of the waitlist. I think it was a few dozen people.

It's weird because in the beginning I was all for Wayne but now as time has passed, I'm leaning towards the other school I'm on the list for. I just found out that I'm ranked ~20 on the list so there is a very big possibility that I'll get in? So if I get in I'm going to drop my Wayne waitlist because i don't think I can get off of it anyways.

IDK something about Wayne is starting to bug me and i can't figure it out...maybe their lack of keeping us in the loop?:laugh:
 
Is there a reason why we shouldn't know? I don't understand the point of keep it a secret...

Go figure. The admissions office told me that occasionally after May 15th the Dean of Admissions will decline people who are on the bottom of the waitlist.
 
How exactly did you find out your spot on the waitlist? I thought a) they didn't tell people that and b) we don't have "spots" so much as we have ranks.


I'm sorry if my post was confusing. I was talking about other wait list I was on and not Wayne's list.

The list for Wayne as we all know it is ranked but they don't let us know...
 
Only 4 days left until Wayne State's last decision day! Even though I was accepted elsewhere, I really want to attend Wayne State. Here's hoping we all get accepted. 👍
 
Good luck to everyone! An extra:xf::xf: for any fellow Californians waiting to get in to Wayne 😛
 
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