2011-2012 West Virginia University Application Thread

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I would consider myself disadvantaged but being in medicine has been my goal for last four years I've worked extra and save to pay for it. I haven't been able to afford any airline tickets but I had saved enough for hotels and applications. I just don't have any sympathy for people who whine about it.

Having money is only going to get you so far if you don't have the grades and extracurricular activities to make you a solid applicant.

I'm sure there are people who don't deserve to be in medical school but got in because the parents can afford it or are doctors but there's nothing we can do about that and it's not the majority.
 
DocMan22 said:
I would consider myself disadvantaged but being in medicine has been my goal for last four years I've worked extra and save to pay for it. I haven't been able to afford any airline tickets but I had saved enough for hotels and applications. I just don't have any sympathy for people who whine about it.

Having money is only going to get you so far if you don't have the grades and extracurricular activities to make you a solid applicant.

I'm sure there are people who don't deserve to be in medical school but got in because the parents can afford it or are doctors but there's nothing we can do about that and it's not the majority.
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now i dont want to go off topic too much in this thread so this will be my last post about this. BUT

its more than just that, money plays a much deeper role than you think. Money plays a role in how much you can volunteer, how well you do in classes, what kind of resources you can obtain, how many schools you can apply to and the list goes on and on.

If you think about it, there are many students who cant afford their books and are forced to borrow or go through other means, would this not affect their grades?

how about people who get rejected because they dont have enough volunteer hours?
volunteering costs money, it costs hours you could be working, it costs the gas to get there.

im just trying to show that those who have the supportive families that front the bills have much less to worry about. if you got the money then use the advantage you are given, but at the same time realize that money really can and does play a roll on how good of a candidate you can be.
 
I'm aware how much of a role money can play on it and how it goes bad you can give you sometimes. I'm sure you've had to work much harder than other people to get into medical school but there is a little box on the application asking if you're disadvantaged. schools do take that into account, some more than others but it does count
 
What never came across / what I was trying to say is if you've had to work harder than others quit whining about
It and be proud of it, you've already accomplished more
 
DocMan22 said:
Poor you, :cry:
Or you can be like me, not have a lot of extra money to pay for it all but since I really want it, I DIDN'T WHINE ABOUT IT and instead extra hours. If working a few extra hours a week is too much extra work for you, MEDICINE IS NOT the path for you.
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DocMan22, I have read this post like 5 times, and I am still not sure about the gist of these three sentences. I am not whining about anything. Being a medical student is difficult in many aspects (not only money wise), but I still love it, and really look forward my 3rd year rotations.
 
$50-$150 app fees? Sucks but if a chance isn't worth $100...
 
But when you increase your chances 15-fold, it really starts to add up. Not to mention a lot of people don't have the time to work while they're in school.
 
15 fold... Sure. Quit whining.

I'm not saying money doesn't give you an advantage. It does.

The acceptance rate the the bottom quarter, socioeconomicly speaking, is ~36%. For the top quarter it's about 48%. (ironically for the next quarter up from the bottom is only 31%)

It's not fair but a significant number of people without money achieve it. You can write a letter to your congressman but it's not going to change in the next few months.

(MEDICAL SCHOOL ADMISSIONS ACROSS SOCIOECONOMIC GROUPS: AN ANALYSIS ACROSS RACE NEUTRAL AND RACE SENSITIVE ADMISSIONS CYCLES,
http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc28440/m2/1/high_res_d/dissertation.pdf)
 
DocMan22, a chance does worth $100. But what I am saying is that many schools ask for a secondary already knowing that they will NOT accept you anyways. Only a few schools (like UC San Frnacisco and University of Nevada) will not ask for more money when they know that for a "chance" to get in an average applicant will sell his last short. 90% of applicants have to balance their lives between classes, studying for MCAT, volunteering at a local hospital, and working in a research lab for 8-12$/hour. So, $100 do matter. If they don't matter to someone, I can give them my address.
 
You get paid for your research? Must be nice! I spent 2 years in a lab volunteering while taking 18 credits each semester plus Assistant TAing (also volunteering). Not to mention studying for my MCAT on top of all that. So no, a lot of us don't have time to earn the money, despite how hard we work.
 
Also, Docman, do you not realize that the more money you have, the more applications you can submit? That's pure statistics, sir.

15 applications x $100+/application + AMCAS fees per school= ~$2100. I dunno about you, but I can't be dropping this kind of money multiple times. Not to mention all of the hours that might be lost spending time on the applications (AMCAS, secondaries, personal statement etc.). It's costly to apply to medical school no matter how you splice it. It has nothing to do with how badly you want it either. You mentioned you wanted it only for 4 years? Please. I've wanted to do this since I was 4 years old. Don't tell me you want it more than I do. Not to mention "wanting it more" has nothing to do with anything.
 
KnifeofIce said:
You get paid for your research? Must be nice! I spent 2 years in a lab volunteering while taking 18 credits each semester plus Assistant TAing (also volunteering). Not to mention studying for my MCAT on top of all that. So no, a lot of us don't have time to earn the money, despite how hard we work.
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You've obviously worked your ass off. Be proud of what your doing and quit whining.
 
I don't understand your "quit whining" BS. Do you feel inferior? Do you need to put others down by telling them to "quit whining"? What's your deal?
 
KnifeofIce said:
Also, Docman, do you not realize that the more money you have, the more applications you can submit? That's pure statistics, sir.

15 applications x $100+/application + AMCAS fees per school= ~$2100. I dunno about you, but I can't be dropping this kind of money multiple times. Not to mention all of the hours that might be lost spending time on the applications (AMCAS, secondaries, personal statement etc.). It's costly to apply to medical school no matter how you splice it. It has nothing to do with how badly you want it either. You mentioned you wanted it only for 4 years? Please. I've wanted to do this since I was 4 years old. Don't tell me you want it more than I do. Not to mention "wanting it more" has nothing to do with anything.
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Yes, this would be part of the advantage money can give you that I have already agreed exists.

I didn't say I wanted it more than you.

Want does matter, you want it enough to work in a lab for no pay for 2 years. I
 
I hate watching people who have worked their ass off and accomplished complain about all they had to overcome rather than be proud of it. I'm not trying to put you down,
 
.................almost everyone worries about money. I'm not whining or complaining. I am simply voicing a concern about wanting to get in somewhere so I don't have to spend all this money again.

Also, even if you weren't trying, you succeeded in insulting a very large percentage of the applicant pool.
 
This will be my one and only post regarding the above debate.

I propose that we take this elsewhere, please. I say that in a respectful manner, and I consciously acknowledge that each and every one of you has presented valid points.

Unfortunately, this is a thread for the West Virginia University SOM application cycle, 2011-2012. And it's a resource for applicants. The more each of you add to your individual arguments, the more the rest of us have to sift through the thread to look for useful information. Right now it's not a problem, but the debate could become longer, or simply set the stage for further debates on later pages.

Again, I respectfully appreciate all of your input, but I think most would agree when I say that it would be better to keep this thread open to West Virginia related topics only. For those of us who reference this thread often, it would simply be easier. Take it over to the main board, they'll probably love it.

Now, everyone get off of SDN and enjoy your Friday! I'll be spending mine studying for the MCAT (.. again 🙂)
 
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Hello Hokie! Hopefully you will not need it (I mean to take another MCAT).
Here is one thing I wanted to share with the public. Our school is one of the few in the country that requires their students to spend 1 month 3rd year (during family medicine rotation) and 1 month 4th year (any rotation) in a rural area with a school affiliated physician. If you like this idea and can explain the reasons in a cohesive way, I think it would be a great thing to mention during your interview or on your LOI. 😉
 
Fortress, thank you! I was aware of that and I did let them know! I have many clinical experiences in poor/rural areas. Hopefully this will help
 
When I heard about that during my interview, I was actually kind of excited. I never really considered rural medicine before hearing about WVU, and it sounds really interesting. Can you spend more time there if you like it?
 
That's a good question, but frankly speaking I don't have an answer. I can ask at school next week. What I know for sure is that WVU will be more than happy with you staying here for your residency; especially if you choose something in the primary care (family medicine, pediatrics, OBGYN) and practice it in a rural area. Students who decide early to take this path are eligible for a 10K scholarship their 3rd and 4th years (no matter IS or OOS). Once you stay here for your residency you will get more perks. I have even hear about being forgiven all of your loan in an exchange for a 4-year practice in a severely underserved area in the state.
 
Waitlist letter received today. OOS 37 MCAT 3.8ish GPAs.

Kind of sad because I actually liked WVU a lot when I visited, but I guess being out of state I should have accepted the reality of the situation and expected a WL letter at best.
 
kdeoid said:
Waitlist letter received today. OOS 37 MCAT 3.8ish GPAs.

Kind of sad because I actually liked WVU a lot when I visited, but I guess being out of state I should have accepted the reality of the situation and expected a WL letter at best.
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i dont think with your stats youll have too much trouble.
 
kdeoid said:
Waitlist letter received today. OOS 37 MCAT 3.8ish GPAs.

Kind of sad because I actually liked WVU a lot when I visited, but I guess being out of state I should have accepted the reality of the situation and expected a WL letter at best.
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Sorry to hear but as scotthoff said I wouldn't worry too much with stats like that. When did you interview if you don't mind me asking? I'm still waiting for my letter.
 
Hey kdeoid, I received my WL letter about 2 weeks after my interview too. Seems like standard procedure if you ask me.
 
Knife ..

I'm pretty sure that a couple have. Even OOS kids (look on some of the previous pages in the thread). Unless I am mistaken, all of these individuals tended to have rather high stats. They were placed on the wait-list and then received an acceptance a very short time (maybe a week-ish?) later.

So essentially, the out-of-staters on this list probably would not have been placed on it in the first place by the Adcom if it were not for the state mandate (correct me if I am wrong in saying this, West Virginians) that requires all out of state students to be placed on the wait-list for a stated, short period of time.

No one knows what to expect in this medical school admissions game, but assuming that the above is correct (and again, I could be wrong) my guess is that if two or so weeks have passed since your wait-list notification (like myself), it is safe to say that you will be on it for at least a couple of months. In all of the WVU-SOM threads from previous years, most of the out-of-state kids did not hear back for quite some time. Dr. Ferarri told me that the the most wait-list movement occurs May 15 - June 15 ..
 
For anyone who has been accepted and knows they will be attending in the fall, I am a current first-year student looking for a roommate for next year. I'm a guy but I'm fine living with a guy or girl. I live at the Villages at West Run. Send me an e-mail if you're interested. [email protected]
Thanks!

Matt
 
Anyone interested in starting a Facebook group for people who have definitely decided to attend WVU?
 
I 100% agree with you guys. I sincerely wish to all of you to get accepted, so I could see your bright smiling faces in the fall ! :xf:
 
anyone have any numbers regarding IS candidates? i know someone posted interviews/acceptances/matriculations for OOS a little while ago, but wasn't sure about IS numbers...

thanks!
 
LMpharmD said:
anyone have any numbers regarding IS candidates? i know someone posted interviews/acceptances/matriculations for OOS a little while ago, but wasn't sure about IS numbers...

thanks!
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IS = Accepted (basically)

Class of 2015
IS male: 64 interviewed, 48 offers, 39 matriculated (75% offered)
IS female: 49 interviewed, 40 offers, 11 matriculated (82% offered)
 
... *Cricket chirp*


Been quiet lately ..
 
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Desperately wanting to be accepted here. I think I'm going to write a letter of interest.
 
Hi guys, I'm currently a WVU senior and looking to apply this upcoming cycle. A current second year at WVU is trying to persuade me to apply early decision. She said as long as you have the requirements (9 in all sections, 3.7 GPA) and don't bomb your interview you get in. She said her class and the one after her had 100% matriculation for early decision.

The problem is I'm out of state, I go to WVU now and am spending my year off in Morgantown, but I know they have a big emphasis on in states students. The girl I talked to said only one guy out of state did early decision and got in, but I was wondering if you guys knew of any other out of staters who got in early decision or if you had any opinions about early decision.

I have a 4.0 and 28 MCAT (9,9,10), I'm a bio major from PA, but I will probably change my state of residency to WV sometime next year (not when I apply though). Thanks!
 
Mountaineer12 said:
Hi guys, I'm currently a WVU senior and looking to apply this upcoming cycle. A current second year at WVU is trying to persuade me to apply early decision. She said as long as you have the requirements (9 in all sections, 3.7 GPA) and don't bomb your interview you get in. She said her class and the one after her had 100% matriculation for early decision.

I have a 4.0 and 28 MCAT (9,9,10), I'm a bio major from PA, but I will probably change my state of residency to WV sometime next year (not when I apply though). Thanks!
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I say DEFINITELY not... Obviously you have ties to WV, considering you've been there for 4 years... but your MCAT is definitely low for OOS students. IN-STATE students would be almost guaranteed acceptance with your stats, but its a very different story for OOS.

If you apply Early Decision, you cannot submit ANY other applications until after 10/1. That is LATE in the cycle, and with and MCAT <30, you probably would not have very much luck. I am by no means an expert, but I saw unless WVU is the ONLY place you want to attend med school (more commitment than your number 1 choice), then don't do it. Then again, I don't know anything about their early decision acceptance rates for out of state students.
 
LadyRugger said:
I say DEFINITELY not... Obviously you have ties to WV, considering you've been there for 4 years... but your MCAT is definitely low for OOS students. IN-STATE students would be almost guaranteed acceptance with your stats, but its a very different story for OOS.

If you apply Early Decision, you cannot submit ANY other applications until after 10/1. That is LATE in the cycle, and with and MCAT <30, you probably would not have very much luck. I am by no means an expert, but I saw unless WVU is the ONLY place you want to attend med school (more commitment than your number 1 choice), then don't do it. Then again, I don't know anything about their early decision acceptance rates for out of state students.
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This is true, I'm thinking about trying to talk with someone on the admission council to see why try think. Thanks for the help!
 
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