2012-2013 Mount Sinai Application Thread

[nyclove]

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Alternate list unfortunately. This is my number one choice too. Bummer 🙁

Looks like they didn't reject anyone post interview this year as well, probably making it harder to get off the wait list.

That most definetly cannot be true. There was definetly a post a few threads back about a rejection interviewed 10/23? or something like that. Also theres no reason to keep all 800+ interviews on ranked waitlist (if is ranked.. and if its not there sno reason to have 800 kids on a unranked list either).

Just seems most logical to me. but again no need to go neurotic over this.

 

[blegrand5]

Accepted here this morning! Already filed all the financial aid information!!!!

 

[Shockwave456]

Congrats to all the other acceptees! Does anyone know when scholarship or financial aid info is released?

 

[MedicalAuthor]

I'm not even sure I want to go into a super-competitive residency, but I was wondering if students find that they need to do an extra year (for research or whatnot) to be super-competitive or is it possible/feasible to do what's needed in 4?

 

[mistoffelees]

I'm not even sure I want to go into a super-competitive residency, but I was wondering if students find that they need to do an extra year (for research or whatnot) to be super-competitive or is it possible/feasible to do what's needed in 4?

It really depends on yourself. You're expected to have pubs if you want to go to a competitive specialty, but many people just work that into the 4 years you have. With Sinai's really relaxed first two years, it's rare to find someone in the class that isn't engaged in some kind of research project. Depending on what your interest is and whether you find a good mentor, it's definitely able to just do all of the research during 4 years. You can choose to take a year off to do research, but it's often because of strong research interest rather than just trying to do research to make your application look good. You'll find people doing both - the other critical part of your application is your board scores and your 3rd year grades. If you have a ton of research and only get 220 on your boards, chances are that you aren't going to match into anything super competitive anyway, so that bit is just as important.

 

[quadomatic]

Congrats to all the other acceptees! Does anyone know when scholarship or financial aid info is released?

Wondering the same thing

 

[nm723]

does anyone know when waitlist movement starts for sinai? thanks!

 

[blegrand5]

Did anyone receive an email for the second look weekend. I saw they said they would be sending an email shortly with information on it in my acceptance email.

 

[applemac123]

Wondering the same thing

just called...was told " the committee will meet in april and finaid letters will go out in april"

just a note: MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR IRS TRANSCRIPTS (need to apply for it online)! I have no idea why, but MSSM does not accept IRS returns.



PS - still feelin' like i'm on top of the world! I have no idea how i got in! ahhhhhhhhh

 

[quadomatic]

just called...was told " the committee will meet in april and finaid letters will go out in april"

just a note: MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR IRS TRANSCRIPTS (need to apply for it online)! I have no idea why, but MSSM does not accept IRS returns.



PS - still feelin' like i'm on top of the world! I have no idea how i got in! ahhhhhhhhh

Great, thanks for letting us know. I was also confused at the IRS transcripts thing when I had called. The form on the website asks for the return.

 

[vet rehabber]

Have any linkage candidates been accepted yet this cycle?

 

[MiltonPiklbarel]

Great, thanks for letting us know. I was also confused at the IRS transcripts thing when I had called. The form on the website asks for the return.

Yes, I was also confused about this. It turns out the form online is still for the 2012-13 academic year. I recently called the financial aid office and they e-mailed me a pdf of the 2013-14 institutional application along with an instruction sheet for applying for financial aid. On this version of the institutional application it does specify IRS tax transcripts.

Hope this helps!

 

[vet rehabber]

does anyone know when waitlist movement starts for sinai? thanks!

I was told to expect movement after May,15. That is when students MUST declare where they will be attending.

 

[nimbus22]

Yes, I was also confused about this. It turns out the form online is still for the 2012-13 academic year. I recently called the financial aid office and they e-mailed me a pdf of the 2013-14 institutional application along with an instruction sheet for applying for financial aid. On this version of the institutional application it does specify IRS tax transcripts.

Hope this helps!

Got this emailed to me too.

You can get irs transcripts for free

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Order-a-Transcript

 

[MedicalAuthor]

Looks like absolute earliest move-in date for me would be July 25th, but might have to be there before that for wife's job. Anyone know of any other students who had to make the move early for whatever reason? I'd like to talk to someone about what options they pursued (sublet, hotel, couch-surfing, etc).

Also, just thought of this question.....are you kicked out of housing after the first year because of summer break? :-O

 

[Azurophil]

Also, just thought of this question.....are you kicked out of housing after the first year because of summer break? :-O

Not at all. In fact, you'll be able to stay in your same apartment (couples housing) all four years if you like it.

 

[applemac123]

just got the second look email...it finally is sinking in!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

 

[mistoffelees]

Looks like absolute earliest move-in date for me would be July 25th, but might have to be there before that for wife's job. Anyone know of any other students who had to make the move early for whatever reason? I'd like to talk to someone about what options they pursued (sublet, hotel, couch-surfing, etc).

Also, just thought of this question.....are you kicked out of housing after the first year because of summer break? :-O

I really don't think you should have a problem with moving in early if you contact the Real Estate Office to work things out. After all, you will be most likely occupying a space that's vacated by a fourth year, and although I know Aron does get filled up during the summer with some visiting students and the HuMeds (who come here early), I'm sure you can work something out with the Real Estate Office if you get in touch with them early enough. It doesn't make sense why they would not let you live here as long as you pay rent, lol.


And no, actually you can't terminate your housing without re-applying to live in Aron once you move in. Therefore, you're actually responsible for your rent the first summer even if you are not at NYC for the summer. I just subletted my room out to a visiting student and he took care of my rent, so it's not a big deal.

 

[MedicalAuthor]

I really don't think you should have a problem with moving in early if you contact the Real Estate Office to work things out. After all, you will be most likely occupying a space that's vacated by a fourth year, and although I know Aron does get filled up during the summer with some visiting students and the HuMeds (who come here early), I'm sure you can work something out with the Real Estate Office if you get in touch with them early enough. It doesn't make sense why they would not let you live here as long as you pay rent, lol.


And no, actually you can't terminate your housing without re-applying to live in Aron once you move in. Therefore, you're actually responsible for your rent the first summer even if you are not at NYC for the summer. I just subletted my room out to a visiting student and he took care of my rent, so it's not a big deal.

I don't think I'll be living in Aron because I'm applying for couples housing. Also, talked to Angela in housing this morning and she said July 25th is absolute latest

 

[applemac123]

I really really hate to ask this question, but literally its the one (really minor) thing I have pestering me in the back of my head....

Mt. Sinai has a pretty high level of recognition within the medical field, residency program directors, etc...but what about the patient? Do you guys think Mt. Sinai has that "prestige" factor in the real world? Can't exactly impress chicks at a bar name dropping Sinai, can you?


It's such a silly superficial concern, I expect to be berated...but spare me!

 

[MedicalAuthor]

I really really hate to ask this question, but literally its the one (really minor) thing I have pestering me in the back of my head....

Mt. Sinai has a pretty high level of recognition within the medical field, residency program directors, etc...but what about the patient? Do you guys think Mt. Sinai has that "prestige" factor in the real world? Can't exactly impress chicks at a bar name dropping Sinai, can you?


It's such a silly superficial concern, I expect to be berated...but spare me!

I imagine not as much, just like you wouldn't expect a lay-patient to goggle over UPenn the same as Hopkins/Harvard/Stanford.

At the same time, I have been surprised about how many people have heard of Mt. Sinai when I tell them I'm most likely going there. People who, to my knowledge, aren't in to medicine. They usually say "Wow. Sinai's a really good school, isn't it?" And I'm on the West Coast!

 

[applemac123]

I'm pretty sure UPENN elicits a pretty badass response vs. Hop/Har/Stan. They are major universities and have a global presence!

For example, I wouldn't say Dartmouth has such a good medical school as Mt Sinai, but I'd bet saying "I went to Dartmouth for medical school" would have a greater impact on the layperson vs. saying the same "I went to Sinai for medical school"


I know, I know, I'm being superficial!

 

[MedicalAuthor]

I'm pretty sure UPENN elicits a pretty badass response vs. Hop/Har/Stan. They are major universities and have a global presence!

For example, I wouldn't say Dartmouth has such a good medical school as Mt Sinai, but I'd bet saying "I went to Dartmouth for medical school" would have a greater impact on the layperson vs. saying the same "I went to Sinai for medical school"


I know, I know, I'm being superficial!

Eh, I'd have to disagree. I think both UPenn and UCSF, for example, are major amongst people in the know, but probably not so much around the lay-person. I guess it depends on what populations you mean. I got the phone call for my Hopkins acceptance while I was at the barber shop, and my barber announced it to the whole store. Before, when I told him I was applying to UCSF, he was like, who? I imagine he'd have the same reaction to UPenn.

I think we agree overall though (Dartmouth would win out over Sinai to the lay-person) but overall I think there are only a few 'household' names. Could be different circles/upbringing tho...

 

[MedicalAuthor]

I just Wiki'd UPenn, and maybe you're right. *Shrug* I hadn't heard of it/had a prestigious connotation until I started looking into med schools, and I applied to most of the Ivies undergrad, haha.

 

[applemac123]

I just Wiki'd UPenn, and maybe you're right. *Shrug* I hadn't heard of it/had a prestigious connotation until I started looking into med schools, and I applied to most of the Ivies undergrad, haha.

haha, you crazy! UPENN is awesome. 😛

speaking of which, http://icahn.mssm.edu/about-us/news-and-events/mount-sinai-ranks-in-us-news-top-20-medical-schools ---> totally made me 😍

 

[MedicalAuthor]

Anyone else that's going to second look plan to hop on the tail end of Cornell's Saturday evening? Asking because it would be nice to have someone to travel over with. PM me if you're interested.

 

[starxlit3]

anyone know any canadians who got into mount sinai?

 

[bearintraining]

anyone know any canadians who got into mount sinai?

waitlisted right now

 

[mistoffelees]

I'm pretty sure UPENN elicits a pretty badass response vs. Hop/Har/Stan. They are major universities and have a global presence!

For example, I wouldn't say Dartmouth has such a good medical school as Mt Sinai, but I'd bet saying "I went to Dartmouth for medical school" would have a greater impact on the layperson vs. saying the same "I went to Sinai for medical school"


I know, I know, I'm being superficial!

1. I don't deny this point, and I admit that I thought about this when I first made the decision to come here (as opposed to Brown and Cornell, for example). You're bound to get that with any med school that isn't attached to an university. Lay people have name recognition of these places largely because of the university, rather than the hospital itself.

2. So it's really up to you. If it matters to you that your barber or your great-aunt knows of the medical school you go to (or for your parents to brag about where you went to school with their colleagues), then this is a legitimate factor for you. If you can trade some of the "glitter" for the lifestyle and the experience, then hey, why does it matter?

3. Mount Sinai is surprisingly not as obscure as I initially thought it was going to be. I'm from Asia and when I go home even people in Asia (who don't work in medicine) have heard of Mount Sinai. If you're north of DC, I think most people know on the east coast, as well as the major cities in the west coast. The hospital does pretty good PR to get its name out there, IMO. Maybe we'll be like the next Mayo in 10 years 😉

Honestly, for me personally I was a bit sad in the beginning when I wasn't going to a "famous" school, but then the Sinai environment and the ability to go to school in NYC quickly outweighed that. Finally, I went to a top 5 undergrad, so I felt like if I needed to "show off," I got my share of that in college, so it's not a biggie 😛 (everyone's shallow/vain to a certain extent, it's ok)

Oh and since Cornell's revisit falls on the same weekend and for the people thinking of picking and choosing - I was on the revisit committee last year and I looked at this year's schedule (same as last year's). If you want to split up the weekend, I highly suggest sticking through all of Friday's programming (that's where the "fun" is), and staying till lunch on Saturday. I thought Saturday afternoon's activities are more "meh," and since Prof. Laitman is speaking on Saturday morning you really don't want to miss that, and also there's an admin panel or something like that so you can get all your questions about curriculum/housing/research/finaid and stuff answered, which should be helpful.

 

[applemac123]

1. I don't deny this point, and I admit that I thought about this when I first made the decision to come here (as opposed to Brown and Cornell, for example). You're bound to get that with any med school that isn't attached to an university. Lay people have name recognition of these places largely because of the university, rather than the hospital itself.

2. So it's really up to you. If it matters to you that your barber or your great-aunt knows of the medical school you go to (or for your parents to brag about where you went to school with their colleagues), then this is a legitimate factor for you. If you can trade some of the "glitter" for the lifestyle and the experience, then hey, why does it matter?

3. Mount Sinai is surprisingly not as obscure as I initially thought it was going to be. I'm from Asia and when I go home even people in Asia (who don't work in medicine) have heard of Mount Sinai. If you're north of DC, I think most people know on the east coast, as well as the major cities in the west coast. The hospital does pretty good PR to get its name out there, IMO. Maybe we'll be like the next Mayo in 10 years 😉

Honestly, for me personally I was a bit sad in the beginning when I wasn't going to a "famous" school, but then the Sinai environment and the ability to go to school in NYC quickly outweighed that. Finally, I went to a top 5 undergrad, so I felt like if I needed to "show off," I got my share of that in college, so it's not a biggie 😛 (everyone's shallow/vain to a certain extent, it's ok)

Oh and since Cornell's revisit falls on the same weekend and for the people thinking of picking and choosing - I was on the revisit committee last year and I looked at this year's schedule (same as last year's). If you want to split up the weekend, I highly suggest sticking through all of Friday's programming (that's where the "fun" is), and staying till lunch on Saturday. I thought Saturday afternoon's activities are more "meh," and since Prof. Laitman is speaking on Saturday morning you really don't want to miss that, and also there's an admin panel or something like that so you can get all your questions about curriculum/housing/research/finaid and stuff answered, which should be helpful.

Glad to know its just not me 🙂. Speaking of vain, Mt Sinai's class is RIDIC though on the facebook group. Harvard, harvard, cornell, duke, stanford, princeton, berkley, blah blah blah. insane

 

[EHizzle]

Glad to know its just not me 🙂. Speaking of vain, Mt Sinai's class is RIDIC though on the facebook group. Harvard, harvard, cornell, duke, stanford, princeton, berkley, blah blah blah. insane

I'm just curious, but what exactly makes the "prestige" factor of a medical school so important for you? If I go to Sinai next year and people from back home (I'm from NC) ask me what I'm doing, I would tell them that I was going to medical school in New York. This is just my opinion, but I've always found name-dropping to be kind of pompous, especially if you are meeting someone for the first time or don't know them very well.

 

[applemac123]

I'm just curious, but what exactly makes the "prestige" factor of a medical school so important for you? If I go to Sinai next year and people from back home (I'm from NC) ask me what I'm doing, I would tell them that I was going to medical school in New York. This is just my opinion, but I've always found name-dropping to be kind of pompous, especially if you are meeting someone for the first time or don't know them very well.

You're from NC? Howdy neighbor!

1) could be a cultural thing. asian parents love to brag.

2) its a natural part of the convo. "Where are you going?" "Medical school in NYC" "Ohhh awesome!! Where?"

3) I already said it was a bit superficial. I feel extremely proud and humbled by the fact that I got into a top 20, but who doesn't like a little name-association in the real world? I work currently and whenever I meet clients and they ask what my background is and ask about my background, they are visibly impressed when i tell them about where i studied. trust me, it goes a long way

 

[lcck]

Prestige to the lay person is a meh point.

When you graduate from medical school, you will be trying to get jobs from people who know the field and I'm sure they are all well-aware of and hold Mount Sinai in high regards. And even when you become a doctor, I highly doubt that there are tons of patients who only want to be treated by doctors from well-known medical schools. At that point in your career, I think it's going to be your own reputation and bedside manners, rather than the prestige of the medical school you attended, that make you a successful doctor.

 

[canibeadrplease]

Glad to know its just not me 🙂. Speaking of vain, Mt Sinai's class is RIDIC though on the facebook group. Harvard, harvard, cornell, duke, stanford, princeton, berkley, blah blah blah. insane

As a current Sinai student, I can tell you that that's basically what our class is like. I think about half went to Ivies, and another very large chunk went to similarly prestigious non-Ivies (Stanford, MIT, etc.).

But prestige shouldn't matter that much. Sinai is awesome 🙂

 

[mistoffelees]

At that point in your career, I think it's going to be your own reputation and bedside manners, rather than the prestige of the medical school you attended, that make you a successful doctor.

Really, this.

 

[applemac123]

Really, this.

Agreed. 😀

 

[EHizzle]

Just got accepted into the PORTAL program via email! So excited! 😍

 

[applemac123]

Just got accepted into the PORTAL program via email! So excited! 😍

dude DOPE! congrats.

 

[Clark Gable]

waitlisted right now

I was waitlisted as well. I went to a Canadian university for reference as well.

My friend got accepted, however he went to an American college so not sure if its really a fair comparison.

 

[La Presse]

Congrats to those who received acceptances.

Is anyone perhaps applying to the new FlexMed program?

 

[vet rehabber]

This thread is the 2012-2013 application cycle thread specific to Mt. Sinai. Meaning, we have applied to Mt.Sinai school of Medicine (ISOM) for matriculation in the Fall of 2013.

If you are an undergrad (sophomore) interested in the Flexmed (aka. HuMed) program at Mt. Sinai, you will probably find more info on it on the thread link below.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=92835


Also, check out their website, they are doing some live video chats about the program, etc. http://icahn.mssm.edu/education/medical-education/programs/flexmed

I believe applications are due in October, acceptances go out in June.

Best of luck

 

[postalkwk]

I had a question about Aron hall for current students. Ive been accepted MSTP and am deciding between here and one other school. I know in the lease agreement it says no pets, but I vaguely remember on the tour somebody having a cat in their apartment. I know some student living places are really strict with no cats while others have it as a rule with no actual enforcement (my SO is going to Columbia law and one of their dorms says no pets but dogs/cats are common). How is it at Aron Hall?

 

[red doctober]

I had a question about Aron hall for current students. Ive been accepted MSTP and am deciding between here and one other school. I know in the lease agreement it says no pets, but I vaguely remember on the tour somebody having a cat in their apartment. I know some student living places are really strict with no cats while others have it as a rule with no actual enforcement (my SO is going to Columbia law and one of their dorms says no pets but dogs/cats are common). How is it at Aron Hall?

Aron Hall is absolutely no pets (besides fish and the like.) Couples housing might allow pets though.

 

[Azurophil]

Aron Hall is absolutely no pets (besides fish and the like.) Couples housing might allow pets though.

One cat or small/medium dog is fine in couples housing, but it might depend on the building.

 

[MSTPlease]

There's a whole bunch of questions I want to answer and i'm not smart enough to quote them all:

PETS
in couples housing several buildings are definitely ok with pets. Aron hall the rule is no pets but I know of a couple people who have smuggled in cats. You could obviously never get away with a dog since you'd have to walk it and you'd get spotted but if you can get the cat in, no one around you complains, and you aren't seen bringing in pet supplies later on you could probably get away with it, but honestly I wouldn't bother doing it.

NEEDING TO MOVE IN BEFORE MOVE IN DAY
If you can't beg and plead your way into an earlier move in, subletting is probably your best bet. rotatingroom.com is a site specifically for medical students. It's designed for people doing away rotations but with your sinai email address you could find an apartment either close to sinai or at least in NYC that you could sublet for a short period.

PRESTIGE
according to Ken Davis, there was a survey done of lay people asking them to name hospitals or some sort of brand recognition thing and Sinai was 3rd behind Mayo and Hopkins. In full disclosure, I can't find any evidence of this thing but it seems like a weird thing to flat out lie and bring up out of nowhere in a conversation with a group of students at the school. We also only broke away from NYU a couple years ago and the no university affiliation is a point of pride (and a huge selling point as it makes med students the kings of the institution in a way that doesn't exist at any university except maybe something like Weill since it's not even remotely close to the undergrad).

 

[MedicalAuthor]

There's a whole bunch of questions I want to answer and i'm not smart enough to quote them all:

PETS
in couples housing several buildings are definitely ok with pets. Aron hall the rule is no pets but I know of a couple people who have smuggled in cats. You could obviously never get away with a dog since you'd have to walk it and you'd get spotted but if you can get the cat in, no one around you complains, and you aren't seen bringing in pet supplies later on you could probably get away with it, but honestly I wouldn't bother doing it.

NEEDING TO MOVE IN BEFORE MOVE IN DAY
If you can't beg and plead your way into an earlier move in, subletting is probably your best bet. rotatingroom.com is a site specifically for medical students. It's designed for people doing away rotations but with your sinai email address you could find an apartment either close to sinai or at least in NYC that you could sublet for a short period.

PRESTIGE
according to Ken Davis, there was a survey done of lay people asking them to name hospitals or some sort of brand recognition thing and Sinai was 3rd behind Mayo and Hopkins. In full disclosure, I can't find any evidence of this thing but it seems like a weird thing to flat out lie and bring up out of nowhere in a conversation with a group of students at the school. We also only broke away from NYU a couple years ago and the no university affiliation is a point of pride (and a huge selling point as it makes med students the kings of the institution in a way that doesn't exist at any university except maybe something like Weill since it's not even remotely close to the undergrad).

I feel like this reply was tailored to me (thought I know it wasn't). Married, want a dog, need to move in earlier, and struggling with fit vs prestige. Thank you sir/madam!

All helpful. I think my wife is going to try to push for a later start date and we're just going to travel in July.

 

[Azurophil]

I think my wife is going to try to push for a later start date and we're just going to travel in July.

👍👍

 

[applemac123]

PRESTIGE
according to Ken Davis, there was a survey done of lay people asking them to name hospitals or some sort of brand recognition thing and Sinai was 3rd behind Mayo and Hopkins. In full disclosure, I can't find any evidence of this thing but it seems like a weird thing to flat out lie and bring up out of nowhere in a conversation with a group of students at the school. We also only broke away from NYU a couple years ago and the no university affiliation is a point of pride (and a huge selling point as it makes med students the kings of the institution in a way that doesn't exist at any university except maybe something like Weill since it's not even remotely close to the undergrad).

not going to lie, that made me feel funny in my pants.

 

[vet rehabber]

Congrats to those that have already been accepted.

Has anyone been accepted off the alternate list yet?

Thanks

 

[blegrand5]

Received my accepted students packet in the mail today!!!

Just wish my IRS Tax Transcript would hurry up, so I can file financial aid already!