2014-2015 University of Washington Application Thread

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First time poster here -

I just received the secondary on 10/15!! I am OOS and got the initial letter on 7/25 meaning it was almost 3 months in between. I had seriously given up all hope. LizzyM ~ 68.

I actually have family in the area and they're part of the reason I chose to apply. I was wondering if anyone thought it was worth mentioning somewhere on the secondary or would it not even help? Otherwise I seem like a pretty random OOS application as I grew up in TX and am now a NY state resident.
 
First time poster here -

I just received the secondary on 10/15!! I am OOS and got the initial letter on 7/25 meaning it was almost 3 months in between. I had seriously given up all hope. LizzyM ~ 68.

I actually have family in the area and they're part of the reason I chose to apply. I was wondering if anyone thought it was worth mentioning somewhere on the secondary or would it not even help? Otherwise I seem like a pretty random OOS application as I grew up in TX and am now a NY state resident.
Wow! There is some hope yet. :banana:
 
First time poster here -

I just received the secondary on 10/15!! I am OOS and got the initial letter on 7/25 meaning it was almost 3 months in between. I had seriously given up all hope. LizzyM ~ 68.

I actually have family in the area and they're part of the reason I chose to apply. I was wondering if anyone thought it was worth mentioning somewhere on the secondary or would it not even help? Otherwise I seem like a pretty random OOS application as I grew up in TX and am now a NY state resident.
I would definitely suggest explaining why you chose to apply. As you've seen, getting even a secondary offer from OOR is pretty unlikely, so you need to show substantial interest to receive an II.
 
I had my interview this week. Overall the school is awesome, of course, but I felt that this was a very difficult interview. 3 interviewer panel. Lots of follow-up questions. Intense roll-play. Only 30 minutes. I walked out of the interview feeling pretty good about my performance but looking back I see lots of things that I could have done better. I have had one other interview this season and I didn't feel this way following it. Any one have a similar experience? Thoughts on a possible outcome?
 
Yeah I felt similarly. I think because they burn through so many questions so quickly and ask so many follow-up questions, it's impossible not to see how you could have answered certain questions better in retrospect.
 
I had my interview this week. Overall the school is awesome, of course, but I felt that this was a very difficult interview. 3 interviewer panel. Lots of follow-up questions. Intense roll-play. Only 30 minutes. I walked out of the interview feeling pretty good about my performance but looking back I see lots of things that I could have done better. I have had one other interview this season and I didn't feel this way following it. Any one have a similar experience? Thoughts on a possible outcome?

Pretty much all of my classmates felt like their interviews were very intense. This is normal as far as I'm concerned. If that gives you any assurance (I'm a current student at UWSOM)
 
I had my interview this week. Overall the school is awesome, of course, but I felt that this was a very difficult interview. 3 interviewer panel. Lots of follow-up questions. Intense roll-play. Only 30 minutes. I walked out of the interview feeling pretty good about my performance but looking back I see lots of things that I could have done better. I have had one other interview this season and I didn't feel this way following it. Any one have a similar experience? Thoughts on a possible outcome?

I also interviewed this week. I had a few interviews before this one but this one was by far the most intense. Although the other members on the panel were smiling and nodding to my answers, my EXCOM was very stoic and emotionless... it was really hard to tell how I did. I'm probably psyching myself out but I keep thinking of how my answers could have been better. Oh well, nothing to do but wait.
 
Hello,

I am filling out their secondary and have a question regarding the letter of recommendation portion of it. The LOR section ask me to list either the premedical committee or three writers for my LOR requirement. Since I have a letter packet and an individual letter, should I list my letter packet under the premdical committee and my individual letter under optional additional letters?
 
Did you prepare for ethical questions? I am going through their bioethics site but am wondering if there are specific topics I should be really solid on.

It may not be an ethical question, it could just be a difficult clinical scenario (mine was).
 
Thanks, do you think it's a matter of "getting it right" or just having a good thought process?
There's usually not a right or wrong answer. My role play last year was one of the scenarios on the bioethics website. I think they are mainly just looking for you to not be judgmental, have the ability to think on your feet, be compassionate, etc
 
Would highly encourage looking at the interview tips page here:

http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/md-program/admissions/applicants/interview

And watching the interview video that they post:

http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/md-program/admissions/applicants/advice

Found it all very helpful. My role play was very similar to what was discussed on the bioethics site that people are mentioning. https://depts.washington.edu/bioethx/topics/.

For the ethical situations/problem solving questions that they ask, I think they're really looking for thought process over "my answer is xyz." Some of mine were not related to medicine at all.

I personally didn't get asked anything about the ACA/health policy, but some fellow interviewees said they did.

Hope this helps all!

Edit: http://schools.studentdoctor.net/school/uwash/survey/26#survey-result

^Found this helpful as well.
 
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Did you prepare for ethical questions? I am going through their bioethics site but am wondering if there are specific topics I should be really solid on.

I looked at the bioethics website before my interview and while it was worthwhile to familiarize myself with a few of those topics, i wouldnt say it is required to do well on the scenario. I think they want to see how you approach problems, hopefully not get frustrated because they will likely deliberately try to frazzle you a little bit, they did with me. Stay calm, be reasonable, and DON'T FORGET ABOUT THAT IT'S ABOUT THE PATIENT! Its not about the law, or who has power of attorney etc.

Good luck. PM me if you have any additional questions I would be glad to answer what I can
 
They will try to make you question your own answer with "Are you sure? or "That's what you'd really do?" but stick to your guns in a respectful way - they did in my last interview here. The patient comes first and just be sure you are not pulling the my-way-is-the-right-way-and-everyone-else-is-wrong approach when doing these ethical scenarios.
 
For those of you with upcoming interviews or those who have already interviewed, were you able to access the list of classes that we are permitted to sit in on? My interview is coming up and I do not believe I received a separate login to view this list.
 
Hello I'm a UW pre-med. I'm currently a CSE student just transferring to Biochemistry major. Any suggestions on this new track? (I want to be a medical oncologist so I'm thinking bioc is a better approach.) I've heard bioc has some killer classes like p-chem... Anyone done the same path? Any advises on course/strategies to get a GPA higher than 3.7? Thanks 🙂
 
For those of you with upcoming interviews or those who have already interviewed, were you able to access the list of classes that we are permitted to sit in on? My interview is coming up and I do not believe I received a separate login to view this list.
I'm pretty sure they just give you a schedule of the classes on the day of the interview. That's what they did last year
 
Did you prepare for ethical questions? I am going through their bioethics site but am wondering if there are specific topics I should be really solid on.

Contrary to what many people have said on SDN, my role-play was NOT one of the scenarios on the bioethics site. To prepare for this I would recommend reading all of the case studies and discussions for each one. Focus on the method that the scenario is approached rather than the details of the particular case study. Try to develop an understanding of the important principles and their applications such as patient autonomy and privacy. Also practice asking clarifying questions. The interviewer is going to give you the scenario and you should try to ask a couple questions to obtain more information before jumping into the role play. This was my intended strategy but I couldn't think of any questions and it made the role-play more difficult.
 
Rejected pre-secondary, complete 7/30. OOS non-trad, just pretty much a long shot, but it was worth a try. Good luck everyone!!
 
Hello I'm a UW pre-med. I'm currently a CSE student just transferring to Biochemistry major. Any suggestions on this new track? (I want to be a medical oncologist so I'm thinking bioc is a better approach.) I've heard bioc has some killer classes like p-chem... Anyone done the same path? Any advises on course/strategies to get a GPA higher than 3.7? Thanks 🙂

CSE, Biochem, art, history, engineering... you can get into medical school with any major. My personal advice is that you choose a major that most interests you. Selecting a major that you are generally interested in will likely result in a higher GPA, thus increasing your chances of being accepted. I don't want to be pessimistic, but it is also wise to consider that MANY pre-medical students quickly change course and pursue other professions. Leave yourself some options; you may end up changing career paths, and it would be nice to have a plan B in place.

If I could go back in time, I would have pursued a degree in auto mechanics. I would have enjoyed the classes more than the major I chose, and it would have been a very useful skill to have. Ask yourself what you would do with each degree, if you don't go to medical school. Which degree do you think would be more interesting to you? In which program would you perform better? Is there another major that would be better suited to your interests and abilities?
 
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Hello I'm a UW pre-med. I'm currently a CSE student just transferring to Biochemistry major. Any suggestions on this new track? (I want to be a medical oncologist so I'm thinking bioc is a better approach.) I've heard bioc has some killer classes like p-chem... Anyone done the same path? Any advises on course/strategies to get a GPA higher than 3.7? Thanks 🙂

Choose Biochemistry if you want a challenge and you want gap year job prospects or alternative career opportunities in science just in case.

I did Biochemistry and I liked it, yet I was very challenged. There was a semester where I pulled at least one all nighter per week and studied all day, every day. Yet this was above the average, b/c I also did a Biology double major so I basically took several Bio and Chem courses side by side for 4 straight years. Biochem degree class requirements were much much harder than Bio. But the challenge will likely reflect in the MCAT in my opinion.

As for engineering, I know a Biomedical Engineer with a 4.0 but then a 26 MCAT who didn't even get a UW interview, IS. Engineering may not be the best prep for MCAT.

Yet most of all, since being a traditional junior applicant doesnt give you any time for real world experience (which med schools seem to prefer), having a degree that allows you to get a job is essential. When interviewing for jobs in R&D the employer's only cared about Biochem. When I told them I was a double, they were basically like: "that's nice, so about Biochem..."
 
Thank you everybody for all the interview tips thus far! I had a couple of questions that I wasn't sure if anybody might know the answer to:

Do you know about how long it takes to hear back for a post interview decision (on average)?

How much weight is your interview performance put into the decision post-interview? Meaning, does everybody go into the interview with the same "standing" and then the decision is made afterward, or is it more based on an assessment of your overall application post-interview with your interview performance included into that consideration? (I hope that question makes sense). I've read the stats in terms of accepts rates for interviewees, etc, but I'm just curious if anybody knows more about the process.

Thanks!
 
Thank you everybody for all the interview tips thus far! I had a couple of questions that I wasn't sure if anybody might know the answer to:

Do you know about how long it takes to hear back for a post interview decision (on average)?

How much weight is your interview performance put into the decision post-interview? Meaning, does everybody go into the interview with the same "standing" and then the decision is made afterward, or is it more based on an assessment of your overall application post-interview with your interview performance included into that consideration? (I hope that question makes sense). I've read the stats in terms of accepts rates for interviewees, etc, but I'm just curious if anybody knows more about the process.

Thanks!

There is a really good LizzyM "rungs on a ladder" analogy. Does anyone have that quote? It's one of the best that I've seen in correlating stats and "standings" on interview day. If nobody has it, I can paraphrase.

[EDIT] I found it! LizzyM's Staircase Analogy:

Your grades and scores (combined, if you will, with the formula GPA(10)+MCAT) along with your ECs, essays and LORs place you in one of many broad ranked categories. You can think of them as stairs on a wide staircase. (In other words, many of you can be on the same stair.) If a school selects you for interview, in all likelihood you are high enough on the stairs to be admitted or there is the potential that a good interview could boost you up enough to garner admission. That said, someone with a 4.0/40 and an amazing dossier of activities will start out on a higher stair and be more likely to be admitted if your interviews are about the same. Or, the other applicant could bomb the interview and move far down the staircase while you, with a great interview, move up. If a school looks at an applicant and says, "Even with a great interview, we couldn't possibly admit someone with an undergrad gpa of x.xx", then the school is doing you a disservice by inviting you to interview. If you get an interview, it should be a signal that you are "good enough" on paper and the next step is to determine if you are as good (or even better) in person.

In another post, she mentions that applicants generally don't move more than a couple 'steps' following an interview, barring something drastic (and usually bad). Essentially, strong applicants are playing to not lose, whereas weak gpa/mcat/EC applicants are playing to win.
 
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There is a really good LizzyM "rungs on a ladder" analogy. Does anyone have that quote? It's one of the best that I've seen in correlating stats and "standings" on interview day. If nobody has it, I can paraphrase.

[EDIT] I found it! LizzyM's Staircase Analogy:

Your grades and scores (combined, if you will, with the formula GPA(10)+MCAT) along with your ECs, essays and LORs place you in one of many broad ranked categories. You can think of them as stairs on a wide staircase. (In other words, many of you can be on the same stair.) If a school selects you for interview, in all likelihood you are high enough on the stairs to be admitted or there is the potential that a good interview could boost you up enough to garner admission. That said, someone with a 4.0/40 and an amazing dossier of activities will start out on a higher stair and be more likely to be admitted if your interviews are about the same. Or, the other applicant could bomb the interview and move far down the staircase while you, with a great interview, move up. If a school looks at an applicant and says, "Even with a great interview, we couldn't possibly admit someone with an undergrad gpa of x.xx", then the school is doing you a disservice by inviting you to interview. If you get an interview, it should be a signal that you are "good enough" on paper and the next step is to determine if you are as good (or even better) in person.

In another post, she mentions that applicants generally don't move more than a couple 'steps' following an interview, barring something drastic (and usually bad). Essentially, strong applicants are playing to not lose, whereas weak gpa/mcat/EC applicants are playing to win.

Thanks that is very helpful
 
It seems that IIs and rejections are pretty timely here... I've been complete since early September and haven't received an II or rejection. Anyone else in the same boat? I'm from Washington.
 
does UW hold saturday/weekend interviews?? any idea if there is one coming up?
 
does UW hold saturday/weekend interviews?? any idea if there is one coming up?
I remember seeing somewhere in an FAQs or presentation that they do almost all the interviews during the week but I'm not sure if that has changed year to year. Wish I could be of more help. :shrug:
 
Does anyone have an estimate on how long UW takes on giving a interview date for the Seattle campus after an invitation? I received an II on Oct. 7th but Im still in limbo on how long it'll take
 
Does anyone have an estimate on how long UW takes on giving a interview date for the Seattle campus after an invitation? I received an II on Oct. 7th but Im still in limbo on how long it'll take

It took me about a month to get my interview date after being offered the II so hold tight!
 
First time poster here -

I just received the secondary on 10/15!! I am OOS and got the initial letter on 7/25 meaning it was almost 3 months in between. I had seriously given up all hope. LizzyM ~ 68.

I actually have family in the area and they're part of the reason I chose to apply. I was wondering if anyone thought it was worth mentioning somewhere on the secondary or would it not even help? Otherwise I seem like a pretty random OOS application as I grew up in TX and am now a NY state resident.
Yay!!! This gives me hope!
 
So for those of us who haven't been given a secondary just yet... would it be helpful to send them an email explaining our interest in the school or do you all think they might see this as a nuisance?
 
So for those of us who haven't been given a secondary just yet... would it be helpful to send them an email explaining our interest in the school or do you all think they might see this as a nuisance?

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Hi everyone! Just want to put myself out there as a resource for any questions you might have. I'm a current OOR med student, and I want to be helpful because I know this process is stressful. I obviously can't answer everything, but feel free to PM me or ask me questions! UW is great, so I hope to see some of you here. Good luck!
 
did anyone drive their own car to the interview? If so, where did you park?
 
did anyone drive their own car to the interview? If so, where did you park?

There's a few parking lots around the health sciences building, the closest one is called S1 which is right behind the SOM. It's usually around 15 bucks to park in any of these lots for the day. You could also park on the street, but you'll likely have to renew your meter which could be inconvenient depending on your interview day schedule. There aren't many cheap options to park, so if you want to save money I'd recommend taking a bus (they're really convenient). Hope that helps!
 
did anyone drive their own car to the interview? If so, where did you park?

If you don't mind the distance, there are usually spots up on 7th and 8th (from 42 up to 45th) where parking is free. Then you can take the Health Sciences shuttle, which comes every 15 min, on Roosevelt and 43th (by the "Roosevelt Clinic" of UW Medicine) -- just make sure you get on the one headed to UW Medicine and not to Harborview lol.
 
anyone got an interview date recently? i know the time from an invite to an official date can be a while..but Im just checking in to see where they're at in the processing of scheduling.
 
Anyone receive a Washington TRUST II? TRUST applicant here and I received an II but have no idea if it's for just the MD program or the TRUST MD. I guess you would only know if you have scheduled your interview for February 9-12th in Spokane? Anyone know how many people they interview for TRUST?
I am IS. I have received my secondary application. Two days after they invited and encouraged me to apply for the TRUST Program. I am from Africa, non tradition trend, My GPA 4.00 but Mcat less than average!
 
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So I know that people have been accepted starting as early as October 17th, but does anyone happen to know if the first official EXCOM meeting has occurred yet? Or when it will?
 
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