2017-2018 University of Miami (Miller)

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Pharaoh95 said:
Complete 7/24 and still haven't been scored. I'm seeing people that were complete after me get scored. How does this scoring system all work? Does everyone get scored at some point or do some people get passed over?
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I was complete 7/30 and nothing either, not sure if they stratify apps or go in chronological order
 
I know most students at UM live in Brickell, but how do you afford the housing? It is insanely expensive. Please let me know how current students manage.
 
Pink Panda said:
I know most students at UM live in Brickell, but how do you afford the housing? It is insanely expensive. Please let me know how current students manage.
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As a South Florida resident, I can tell you: roommates, roommates, roommates. There is no other way to afford COL (unless you are wealthy).
 
Does anyone know if they are receptive to in the area calls/emails?
 
Pink Panda said:
I know most students at UM live in Brickell, but how do you afford the housing? It is insanely expensive. Please let me know how current students manage.
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I have friends who went there years ago - renting a house with three or more students can help.


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Pink Panda said:
I know most students at UM live in Brickell, but how do you afford the housing? It is insanely expensive. Please let me know how current students manage.
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Most students do live in brickell but honestly, with COL the way it is, you're going to be paying an arm and a leg no matter where you live. It's Miami. If you live in Brickell, you can forgo having a car and dealing with any upkeep/insurance since everything is here plus the train takes you straight to campus. If you live further out where rent is cheaper, you incur the costs of maintaining that car which essentially evens out. Loans are more than enough to afford to live here if you take out the full amount but a roommate or two is a must unless you have other financial resources.

If you're MD/MPH, it becomes muucchhh cheaper once you move out to West Palm, which I'm excited for.
 
My friend goes to NOVA for dental school and her neighborhood, which is in Ft Lauderdale, had several UM students. I met a few of them while I was visiting my friend and they said the commute was about 45 minutes but they really liked living in Ft Lauderdale as opposed to Miami because of COL and the area in general. I guess having a car isn't possible for everyone (and the commute would suck) but thought I'd throw this out there.
 
The commute is much longer than 45 minutes if you factor in rush hour traffic. If you can avoid having to go to/leave from campus between 7-9 am and 5-7 pm, you might be able to make this work. Otherwise, I think the traffic (and the lost time spent just sitting in the car) would drive you insane. The savings on COL aren't significant enough, in my opinion, to make it worth it. COL in Fort Lauderdale is still fairly above that in other places, as is any neighborhood in South FL really.
 
fldoctorgirl said:
The commute is much longer than 45 minutes if you factor in rush hour traffic. If you can avoid having to go to/leave from campus between 7-9 am and 5-7 pm, you might be able to make this work. Otherwise, I think the traffic (and the lost time spent just sitting in the car) would drive you insane. The savings on COL aren't significant enough, in my opinion, to make it worth it. COL in Fort Lauderdale is still fairly above that in other places, as is any neighborhood in South FL really.
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Ah okay, I don't really know anything but wanted to share what I heard! They weren't med students btw so their schedules were probably easier to work with
 
That commute would be awful though...

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I'm still trying to imagine living in Miami without a car. That seems like a bad idea unless you can share a roommate's.


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ugh. ive been sitting on this secondary since 7/6... should i bother sending it in or has this ship sailed for me?
 
chlory said:
ugh. ive been sitting on this secondary since 7/6... should i bother sending it in or has this ship sailed for me?
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It's still not Labor Day, so I think you'll be fine. It is a ridiculously long secondary, though.
 
DBC03 said:
I'm still trying to imagine living in Miami without a car. That seems like a bad idea unless you can share a roommate's.


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Don't try to, it's impossible to make it without a car. Public transportation here is not designed as NY or any other big city. You NEED a car if you don't want to be confined to just a couple of places.


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pewpew95 said:
Ah okay, I don't really know anything but wanted to share what I heard! They weren't med students btw so their schedules were probably easier to work with
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I would say it's out of the question. It takes me at least an hr at regular times. If you factor in rush hr traffic..... forget it. Oh, don't forget tolls, gas and wear and tear


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Alejita said:
Don't try to, it's impossible to make it without a car. Public transportation here is not designed as NY or any other big city. You NEED a car if you don't want to be confined to just a couple of places.


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Agreed. I can see how someone might make it work as a college student, but anyone considering going to Miami for med school should budget for a car, insurance, and gas.

And add an extra 30 minutes to 45 minutes to any commute time.
 
DBC03 said:
I'm still trying to imagine living in Miami without a car. That seems like a bad idea unless you can share a roommate's.
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Alejita said:
Don't try to, it's impossible to make it without a car. Public transportation here is not designed as NY or any other big city. You NEED a car if you don't want to be confined to just a couple of places.
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DBC03 said:
Agreed. I can see how someone might make it work as a college student, but anyone considering going to Miami for med school should budget for a car, insurance, and gas.

And add an extra 30 minutes to 45 minutes to any commute time.
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Myself and many classmates have been without a car for a little over a year now and some upperclassmen, more lol. Where are you really going anyway? You're in school lol. If you live in Brickell, everything you need is right there plus, like I said before, the train takes you straight to campus and is reliable. In the off chance, you decide to venture out, it's a quick uber/lyft anywhere. It's definitely doable and this coming from a person who had a car before moving to Miami. I haven't felt inconvenienced yet. If you can swing a car, then go for it but if want to save a bit, it's possible.

Now if you live anywhere else, I agree that it would definitely be a challenge.
 
teeayejay said:
Myself and many classmates have been without a car for a little over a year now and some upperclassmen, more lol. Where are you really going anyway? If you live in Brickell, everything you need is right there plus, like I said before, the train takes you straight to campus and is reliable. In the off chance, you decide to venture out, it's a quick uber/lyft anywhere. It's definitely doable and this coming from a person who had a car before moving to Miami. I haven't felt inconvenienced yet. If you can swing a car, then go for it but if want to save a bit, it's possible.

Now if you live anywhere else, I agree that it would definitely be a challenge.
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This is good to know. However, do you do all clinical rounds at Jackson Memorial? I know some schools have you go to various locations, so it seems a little awkward in the third year.
 
DBC03 said:
This is good to know. However, do you do all clinical rounds at Jackson Memorial? I know some schools have you go to various locations, so it seems a little awkward in the third year.
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Yeah, BTW what is happening now that Jackson Memorial is no longer working with UM? Any students willing to share?


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Alejita said:
Yeah, BTW what is happening now that Jackson Memorial is no longer working with UM? Any students willing to share?


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How will this affect rotations?
 
Alejita said:
Yeah, BTW what is happening now that Jackson Memorial is no longer working with UM? Any students willing to share?


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This is a thing? When did they cut ties?
 
DBC03 said:
This is good to know. However, do you do all clinical rounds at Jackson Memorial? I know some schools have you go to various locations, so it seems a little awkward in the third year.
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Point taken, I don't know how the traditional track is structured in terms of non-hospital based rotations. It would definitely be within reason, and assumed even, that there will be some off-site locations. MD/MPH, you absolutely need a car years 3/4.

Preclinical years, you really don't need a car and can save money by delaying to years 3 and 4. Obviously, it's a personal choice. Was just throwing out other possibilities for those trying to save money.

Alejita said:
Yeah, BTW what is happening now that Jackson Memorial is no longer working with UM? Any students willing to share?

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Haven't heard anything about this. Source?
 
notreallymyname said:
Random question that I haven't seen asked yet, but is anyone else applying with an SO and know how adcom might approach that? We listed each other and our AMCAS ID's on the secondaries but I'm curious as to how/if it changes the review process. 😳
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I used to work at Jackson and UMMSM in research (3 years). I'm applying next cycle (18-19), but probably not to UMMSM. Not sure how adcoms will view your app with SO noted by AMCAS ID as far as treating it the way you'd like (I'm sure the goal is attending same school)! But it's worth a try and might get you prepared for the couples match in 4+ years... : ) Good luck. My gut tells me though, at this point, you'll each be treated rather individually on med school admissions criteria.
 
Anonimus.Maximus said:
I'm interviewing for both the vanilla MD and the MD/MPH programs. Really excited for both! Random observation, but I was looking at the class profiles and the general MD GPA is a good bit higher than the MD/MPH GPA. Anyone have a clue what's up with that? Source: MD-MPH Class of 2021 - Miller School of Medicine Admissions and MD Class of 2021 - Miller School of Medicine Admissions
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One theory is that people interested in an MPH have had more experiences/ECs in healthcare and with underserved populations than people strictly involved in the plain old MD program. Obviously that's a broad generalization, but I think it seems plausible that the ECs of the MD/MPH students might make up for the stats of strictly MD students (And i'm sure the MD candidates have great ECs also).
 
icedude2010 said:
One theory is that people interested in an MPH have had more experiences/ECs in healthcare and with underserved populations than people strictly involved in the plain old MD program. Obviously that's a broad generalization, but I think it seems plausible that the ECs of the MD/MPH students might make up for the stats of strictly MD students (And i'm sure the MD candidates have great ECs also).
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I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. That said, my application definitely skews more towards research than service, so if it's true it can't be a hard and fast rule.
 
Anonimus.Maximus said:
I'm interviewing for both the vanilla MD and the MD/MPH programs. Really excited for both! Random observation, but I was looking at the class profiles and the general MD GPA is a good bit higher than the MD/MPH GPA. Anyone have a clue what's up with that? Source: MD-MPH Class of 2021 - Miller School of Medicine Admissions and MD Class of 2021 - Miller School of Medicine Admissions
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A good portion of our cohort are nontrad students. The majority of us have taken at least a year off and done other things; post-baccs, etc. At least half have taken 2 or more years off and have been gainfully employed doing other great things that lends themselves toward a strong public health background. MD/MPH tends to have slightly lower GPAs and MCAT for whatever reason. This interestingly follows into step 1 scores with MD-trads being slightly higher but again, we're working concurrently towards two degrees. All in all, the overall Miller classes match pretty well regardless and go on to be successful. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
teeayejay said:
A good portion of our cohort are nontrad students. The majority of us have taken at least a year off and done other things; post-baccs, etc. At least half have taken 2 or more years off and have been gainfully employed doing other great things that lends themselves toward a strong public health background. MD/MPH tends to have slightly lower GPAs and MCAT for whatever reason. This interestingly follows into step 1 scores with MD-trads being slightly higher but again, we're working concurrently towards two degrees. All in all, the overall Miller classes match pretty well regardless and go on to be successful. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Thanks! Wasn't worried too much, just was kinda curious. And I'm fairly nontrad (although still in my 20s) and it doesn't surprise me that people with similar backgrounds would like the MD/MPH approach.
 
So, the text of my application status just changed to green. I doubt it has any meaningful significance but I thought I'd share anyways.
 
Alejita said:
I would say it's out of the question. It takes me at least an hr at regular times. If you factor in rush hr traffic..... forget it. Oh, don't forget tolls, gas and wear and tear


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Hi guys, several questions:

1) For those who are interviewing, when and where do we meet? I never got an email giving details about the actual interview day itself and my iPhone has problems downloading apps, so I'm not sure if this information is in The Hub app they sent us.

2) Current students, are there any employment opportunities for medical students to earn some small pocket cash? Obviously, time is limited and it is not entirely possible to hold a part-time job consistently. Is working as a TA, admissions tour guide, and research paid? I got paid for my research in undergrad, but I knew I was an exception and my PI was super nice...😛
 
bluedeacon said:
Does anyone know if they are receptive to in the area calls/emails?
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I think this question was forgotten with the car owning conversation. Does anyone know if they are receptive to in the area updates?
 
whatIknow said:
The Alejita troll should just go away. From the redickulous Jackson Memorial post to the 11.50 toll to cuba

I don't think UMMSM is for you
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If you can't take the heat get out of the fire. Do your homework, do your research. Stay informed and if you have something against Cubans then UM definitely isn't for YOU. They are here all over the place and they are one of the most united, helpful and largest community in South Florida. And BTW the tolls here on 95 ARE that expensive, believe it or not.


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Alejita said:
If you can't take the heat get out of the fire. Do your homework, do your research. Stay informed and if you have something against Cubans then UM definitely isn't for YOU. They are here all over the place and they are one of the most united, helpful and largest community in South Florida. And BTW the tolls here on 95 ARE that expensive, believe it or not.


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The express lane is an optional route and the toll is dynamically priced and depends on traffic at the time.

Question for You:

What is your source for UM and Jackson Memorial no longer working together/having a relationship? I have not been able to yield any news through either entity's websites or local news sources. A current student could not corroborate the claim as well.
 
lpp06 said:
The express lane is an optional route and the toll is dynamically priced and depends on traffic at the time.

Question for You:

What is your source for UM and Jackson Memorial no longer working together/having a relationship? I have not been able to yield any news through either entity's websites or local news sources. A current student could not corroborate the claim as well.
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A few people are asking about Jackson Memorial Hospital not being affiliated with UMMSM any longer. I poked around. My educated guess/understanding is there's been a small error on SND (shocking, i know) LOL. First off though, from having done research there for ~ three years, the campus is sprawling. Heck, JMH is a sprawling hospital in and of itself. It's a legit medical campus, there is nothing small about it. Sylvester is a cancer center larger than most smaller local hospitals. A friend of mine, a former PD at UMMSM said this week, "Jackson is the 2nd largest health system in the US..." (I forgot the first one, I was driving and just happy to see my friend). Anyway, Ryder is a HUGE trauma center. Bascom is almost always ranked as a/the top eye hospital in the US. Mailman Institute. Calder Library is nice and for med students (huge), has that throwback to 1980s Miami Vice setting. That takes us to UMH (University of Miami Hospital). I think JMH is being confused with UMH. JMH is the hub if you will. Mid campus, all the UMMSM classrooms, admissions office, etc. UMH is a large hospital where faculty practice, in a more private practice setting than JMH. Sure, some are 100% PP, some are academic, some are a blend. If any hospital was stepping away from UMMSM, this would be the one, not JMH. (We all had heard rumors of UMH stepping away years and years ago). Bottom line, UMMSM is a large, established thriving med school and program, with more to do than any of us would know what to do with as M-1s. Don't worry about UMMSM and their affiliate hospitals. I haven't even mentioned the regional and distant campuses. Also, of note, the CRB (the Clinical Research Building) which went up when I was there, is gorgeous, state of the art, and has a wonderful gym (no idea if med students get access/free/none/cost), not to mention some beautiful offices! The big shots have offices here too. Who wouldn't wanna be there! Good luck to all! PM for any other UMMSM experiences and anecdotes. ED5
 
Etherdome5 said:
A few people are asking about Jackson Memorial Hospital not being affiliated with UMMSM any longer. I poked around. My educated guess/understanding is there's been a small error on SND (shocking, i know) LOL. First off though, from having done research there for ~ three years, the campus is sprawling. Heck, JMH is a sprawling hospital in and of itself. It's a legit medical campus, there is nothing small about it. Sylvester is a cancer center larger than most smaller local hospitals. A friend of mine, a former PD at UMMSM said this week, "Jackson is the 2nd largest health system in the US..." (I forgot the first one, I was driving and just happy to see my friend). Anyway, Ryder is a HUGE trauma center. Bascom is almost always ranked as a/the top eye hospital in the US. Mailman Institute. Calder Library is nice and for med students (huge), has that throwback to 1980s Miami Vice setting. That takes us to UMH (University of Miami Hospital). I think JMH is being confused with UMH. JMH is the hub if you will. Mid campus, all the UMMSM classrooms, admissions office, etc. UMH is a large hospital where faculty practice, in a more private practice setting than JMH. Sure, some are 100% PP, some are academic, some are a blend. If any hospital was stepping away from UMMSM, this would be the one, not JMH. (We all had heard rumors of UMH stepping away years and years ago). Bottom line, UMMSM is a large, established thriving med school and program, with more to do than any of us would know what to do with as M-1s. Don't worry about UMMSM and their affiliate hospitals. I haven't even mentioned the regional and distant campuses. Also, of note, the CRB (the Clinical Research Building) which went up when I was there, is gorgeous, state of the art, and has a wonderful gym (no idea if med students get access/free/none/cost), not to mention some beautiful offices! The big shots have offices here too. Who wouldn't wanna be there! Good luck to all! PM for any other UMMSM experiences and anecdotes. ED5
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Caligirlzz said:
Agree. Irresponsible to post that idiotic Jackson Memorial comment, with no basis whatsoever.
First year at Miller, pm me with any questions. It is an incredible school.
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If I had all the details..... I would have posted it as a statement, but since I didn't, I posted it as a question so students like YOU would shed some light not insult.


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Let's relax guys. It's a stressful process as it is. I highly doubt someone is spending time on this website purposely trying to ruin our days by reporting false info. If anything they were probably misinformed and had no knowledge to the better. Same thing with traffic info and anything else discussed on this page.


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Alejita said:
If you were a good Med student you wouldn't be wasting your time chating here... that said ..... GET TO WORK.


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Do us all a favor and quit commenting on this thread. You are contributing nothing of value.
 
Pharaoh95 said:
Do us all a favor and quit commenting on this thread. You are contributing nothing of value.
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It was done and over but she came late and just had to leave her mark


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Pharaoh95 said:
So, the text of my application status just changed to green. I doubt it has any meaningful significance but I thought I'd share anyways.
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+1 wonder if it is anything significant
 
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