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Not sure if I'd say money hungry. I feel that more so it's people who don't have parents to help pay for med school. I think money hungry people would actually try to go to the most prestigious place they get into and then go into like derm lol

I don't think this is the case. Other top schools adjust financial aid based on parental income; e.g. Yale is a flat $15k/year for people whose parents make less than $125k. NYU starts at around $33k/year. If an applicant's parents make too much money to receive a lot of aid from Harvard/JHU/Yale type schools, then NYU becomes a more attractive option. To me, it kind of seems that NYU's free tuition will attract matriculants from better-off families

 

[medemac]

Do a lot of schools match? I was interviewing at Penn recently, and some interviewee asked "do you guys match" and the financial aid representative jokingly said something like, "no we won't match the full ride you get at NYU" lolol

I have never really seen Ivy leagues giving anything besides need-based aid but I would be excited to learn otherwise.

The ones I can think of off the top of my head who can compete financially are Stanford (Knight-Hennessy), UChicago/WUSTL/Vanderbilt (who might match), UCLA (Geffen), Kaiser, Dell(?), and CCLCM.

 

[AMCASTuesdays]

I have never really seen Ivy leagues giving anything besides need-based aid but I would be excited to learn otherwise.

The ones I can think of off the top of my head who can compete financially are Stanford (Knight-Hennessy), UChicago/WUSTL/Vanderbilt (who might match), UCLA (Geffen), Kaiser, Dell(?), and CCLCM.

Dont forget cornell

 

[studentdoctornetworque]

That's simply incorrect. Unless your parents are fully covering your med school, the difference in debt is very meaningful. I want to go into PCP for underserved, that is not lucrative at all and having fewer loans to pay off is a meaningfully reduced barrier to my career goal. Going to Harvard would be great, but it is not necessary for what I want to do and would just serve as a barrier to it. (I say this as someone who happily went there for UG)

+1

 

[710118]

The people with actual need who are getting into NYU are also getting into other top schools where their full tuition will be covered by scholarship. The only people picking NYU over Harvard are those who come from well off families that Harvard didn’t give need based aid to AND those that preference money above either 1) happiness 2) fit 3) weather..... that’s not to say no one can pick NYU over fit. It’s just that I think most people are picking it for the money.

 

[710118]

Bruh. What did NYU do to hurt you so much?

Nothing. It’s a great school. It’s just not Hopkins or Stanford yet those schools are acting more “humbly” and less arrogant than NYU is. Calling one or two people a day is straight arrogance. It’s making people antsy for no reason other than to create hype

 

[AMCASTuesdays]

The people with actual need who are getting into NYU are also getting into other top schools where their full tuition will be covered by scholarship. The only people picking NYU over Harvard are those who come from well off families that Harvard didn’t give need based aid to AND those that preference money above either 1) happiness 2) fit 3) weather..... that’s not to say no one can pick NYU over fit. It’s just that I think most people are picking it for the money.

Anecdotally disagree on all fronts lol

 

[Kamill]

Here we go again

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[studentdoctornetworque]

The people with actual need who are getting into NYU are also getting into other top schools where their full tuition will be covered by scholarship. The only people picking NYU over Harvard are those who come from well off families that Harvard didn’t give need based aid to AND those that preference money above either 1) happiness 2) fit 3) weather..... that’s not to say no one can pick NYU over fit. It’s just that I think most people are picking it for the money.

“The people with actual need”

 

[710118]

“The people with actual need”

Yes if your parents make 300k a year, why should a school use its own money to pay for your education instead of either you or your parents?

 

[jecki46]

Nothing. It’s a great school. It’s just not Hopkins or Stanford yet those schools are acting more “humbly” and less arrogant than NYU is. Calling one or two people a day is straight arrogance. It’s making people antsy for no reason other than to create hype

Here is the news for you... ask anyone in the medical community. No one cares about where you went to medical school.. Except for your parents. It just doesn't matter. Even mediocre schools get their students into good residencies.

 

[shacoleblanconly]

Can we please chill and keep things on track? I think most of the people watching this thread are more concerned with decision movement than with this bizarre attempt to convince us that hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt is an insignificant thing.

 

[710118]

Here is the news for you... ask anyone in the medical community. No one cares about where you went to medical school.. Except for your parents. It just doesn't matter. Even mediocre schools get their students into good residencies.

When I was interviewing at WashU, on my drive around St. Louis, I saw a billboard. On it, a doctor was advertising his services. Underneath the doctors picture, it said “Harvard MD”. I have never seen a doctor advertise “NYU MD” but I have seen Harvard and Yale. This isn’t to say NYU isn’t a great school. Of course it’s a phenomenal school. They are just acting arrogant which bothers me

 

[desperatepremed2024]

Here is the news for you... ask anyone in the medical community. No one cares about where you went to medical school.. Except for your parents. It just doesn't matter. Even mediocre schools get their students into good residencies.

people do care, unfortunately, especially if you're trying to go into academics. If you're trying to match into ortho at HSS or harvard, or neurosurg at UCSF or hopkins, name will play a role. Then, 20 years down the line, when they're deciding who to pick to lead the department, they'll look at where you went to med school.

 

[710118]

people do care, unfortunately, especially if you're trying to go into academics. If you're trying to match into ortho at HSS or harvard, or neurosurg at UCSF or hopkins, name will play a role. Then, 20 years down the line, when they're deciding who to pick to lead the department, they'll look at where you went to med school.

Exactly.

 

[AMCASTuesdays]

When I was interviewing at WashU, on my drive around St. Louis, I saw a billboard. On it, a doctor was advertising his services. Underneath the doctors picture, it said “Harvard MD”. I have never seen a doctor advertise “NYU MD” but I have seen Harvard and Yale. This isn’t to say NYU isn’t a great school. Of course it’s a phenomenal school. They are just acting arrogant which bothers me

I got into this to become a doctor, not to have my mug on a billboard

Some people’s parents will/can fund them, many cant. Its kind of tone deaf to be only viewing this through the lens of someone who can

 

[Lawpy]

This thread doesn't fail to disappoint

 

[710118]

I got into this to become a doctor, not to have my mug on a billboard

Some people’s parents will/can fund them, many cant. Its kind of tone deaf to be only viewing this through the lens of someone who can

I can’t afford to pay for school since I am poor af. I am relying on need based aid from schools. At the end of the day, NYU is financing rich pre meds to go for free. Nothing wrong with that but it deffinitely makes me question students motives for choosing the school.

 

[SeaHusky]

me not even applying here, but yet still wanting to enjoy SDN at its absolute peak

 

[studentdoctornetworque]

Yes if your parents make 300k a year, why should a school use its own money to pay for your education instead of either you or your parents?

For undergrad, my family’s ~175k/year meant I paid for pretty much everything. Now during gap years I’m giving 1/2 of my paycheck to a bank and living at my parents’ house.

I don’t know what the financial aid packages med schools give or what I could expect. I do know that this experience has taught me the value of money as well as what it feels like to be under the heel of student loans.

 

[AmaranthMoor]

getting notifs and reading this thread argument without II to either NYU or Harvard be like

 

[710118]

For undergrad, my family’s ~175k/year meant I paid for pretty much everything. Now during gap years I’m giving 1/2 of my paycheck to a bank and living at my parents’ house.

I don’t know what the financial aid packages med schools give or what I could expect. I do know that this experience has taught me the value of money as well as what it feels like to be under the heel of student loans.

Same, my parents made much less than that and I am paying back my loans rn as well. Thing is, the people getting into NYU whose parents make 175k a year are also getting acceptances to other schools who will still give a decent need based aid package. Maybe not full tuition but atleast 30-40k a year I would imagine

 

[tessellations]

*stares at my empty email box*

y’all need to chilllllllll

 

[texasvandy]

Any doctor advertising on a billboard is tacky and naming their school to support them is tackier.

 

[710118]

Any doctor advertising on a billboard is tacky and naming their school to support them is tackier.

It might be tacky but I bet they are enjoying their brand new lamborghini Superleggera.

 

[907914]

Redacted because apparently it is flame inducing

 

[studentdoctornetworque]

It might be tacky but I bet they are enjoying their brand new lamborghini Superleggera.

If people can’t get rich by dislodging coffee mugs from rectums and then use that money to get a billboard and superleggera, then I think we need to rethink our values as Americans.

 

[deleted972488]

It might be tacky but I bet they are enjoying their brand new lamborghini Superleggera.

I don't know what that is and nor do I care. I don't really want to be around people who care either.

 

[FranklinDelanoRoooosevelt]

This spuding guy is an absolute freak. Bro if you want a lambo that bad go work at Goldman

 

[rune2h]

Doctors with enough income to afford a Lambhorgini are only able to do so by exploiting the poor and needlessly enriching themselves to the detriment of society as a whole.

 

[710118]

This spuding guy is an absolute freak. Bro if you want a lambo that bad go work at Goldman

Who said I want a Lamborghini? I could have worked at Goldman if I wanted to. Medicine is my passion that’s why I am here. Money is not what drives my life’s decisions. Still, nothing wrong for someone to work hard, help people, and afford a nice car. When did it become a crime to become rich in this country (billions reference)

 

[710118]

Doctors with enough income to afford a Lambhorgini are only able to do so by exploiting the poor and needlessly enriching themselves to the detriment of society as a whole.

Or they provide a service that other people are willing to pay for.

 

[907914]

Or they provide a service that other people are forced to pay for by an exploitative system designed to trap the poor in squalor.

FTFY

 

[710118]

FTFY

If the rich want to pay 10k for cosmetic plastic surgery, why is that morally wrong. I personally wouldn’t do it (either side of it), but who is being harmed here? Someone wants a service and is paying for it. No one is being exploited.

 

[strappysandals]

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[Engrailed]

If the rich want to pay 10k for cosmetic plastic surgery, why is that morally wrong. I personally wouldn’t do it (either side of it), but who is being harmed here? Someone wants a service and is paying for it. No one is being exploited.

hi spuding,
Im not quite following what the point of your comment is... What is the main point you are trying to make here

inquiring minds want to know

 

[SeaHusky]

I could have worked at Goldman if I wanted to.

I could have founded Amazon if I wanted, but medicine is my passion, so I said "Go ahead" to a buddy of mine named Jeff.

 

[deleted996731]

I actually could have been accepted to NYU if I wanted, but I don’t really like Lamborghinis

 

[deleted976595]

Can confirm that my low SES is why I haven’t gotten an II here

 

[710118]

hi spuding,
Im not quite following what the point of your comment is... What is the main point you are trying to make here

inquiring minds want to know

Someone who is a doctor and is making good money is not necessarily exploiting people. They might be providing a service (like cosmetic plastic surgery), that others are willing to pay for.

 

[710118]

I could have founded Amazon if I wanted, but medicine is my passion, so I said "Go ahead" to a buddy of mine named Jeff.

When you graduate with a 3.9+ GPA from a top ten with a pipeline to banking jobs, I say with 100 percent confidence, I could've went to goldman if I wanted to. I had friends with 3.5 GPAs going to JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley.

 

[907914]

When you graduate with a 3.9+ GPA from a top ten with a pipeline to banking jobs, I say with 100 percent confidence, I could've went to goldman if I wanted to. I had friends with 3.5 GPAs going to JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley.

I am graduating with a 3.6 from a top ten in least STEM funding with a pipeline to early dropout, alcoholism, and cashier jobs. Does that count?

 

[710118]

I am graduating with a 3.6 from a top ten in least STEM funding with a pipeline to early dropout and cashier jobs. Does that count?

Only if you dont wear red ties

 

[u_raptor]

Can we all just chill lol. Never would I see a school getting attacked for free tuition

edit: and calling a few students at a time is nothing new lmao

 

[SeaHusky]

I had friends

 

[deleted972488]

edit: and calling a few students at a time is nothing new lmao

Yeah, UCLA is doing it too...

 

[TheDataKing]

When you graduate with a 3.9+ GPA from a top ten with a pipeline to banking jobs, I say with 100 percent confidence, I could've went to goldman if I wanted to. I had friends with 3.5 GPAs going to JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley.

How is that at all relevant besides just bragging on yourself for something you could have done (but caveat, did not actually do)?

 

[premed20172017]

I hope you all end up going to NYU. That would be a close-knit class.






lol

 

[Gregor Samsa]

The people with actual need who are getting into NYU are also getting into other top schools where their full tuition will be covered by scholarship. The only people picking NYU over Harvard are those who come from well off families that Harvard didn’t give need based aid to AND those that preference money above either 1) happiness 2) fit 3) weather..... that’s not to say no one can pick NYU over fit. It’s just that I think most people are picking it for the money.

If it helps at all, I had 0 expected family contribution and NYU was the only top 10 school I got into last year. They also helped me with the cost of living due to my finances. You are trying to come up with a formula to define all 102 of us, but the truth is my classmates are as diverse as any other group. Rich people, not-so-rich people, some fresh-out-of-college kids, some older people with kids. All with different life stories and aspirations too, if you could believe that lol.

 

[AMCASTuesdays]

If it helps at all, I had 0 expected family contribution and NYU was the only top 10 school I got into last year. They also helped me with the cost of living due to my finances. You are trying to come up with a formula to define all 102 of us, but the truth is my classmates are as diverse as any other group. Rich people, not-so-rich people, some fresh-out-of-college kids, some older people with kids. All with different life stories and aspirations too, if you could believe that lol.

Gregor has metamorphasized the topic of this convo, lets take his lead