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Mr. Dr. Prof. Patrick said:
I have a 521 and I am sure my autobio was at least a little bit more than half assed - do I still have a shot at an interview here?
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If it makes you feel any better, I wrote my autobiography in one sitting and didn't even proofread.

u_raptor said:
Ok vandy may be competing with Hopkins as my favorite 😍
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What makes you say that? 😳
 
Enterococcus said:
If it makes you feel any better, I wrote my autobiography in one sitting and didn't even proofread.


What makes you say that? 😳
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Vandy seems to really personalize the curriculum to be tailored around figuring out what you want to do, and making you competitive for it (third year flex time, early clinical rotations 2nd year for exposure, professional mentor, weekly college meetings, etc). They have great step scores, 2nd year clerkships are true pass/fail with no internal rankings, students seem incredibly happy (and there are many events to ensure student wellness, like the weekly college meetings to make it feel smaller, class retreats, etc). Hospital right next door. The 3rd year research is planned where you have to meet with the research office and they structure your planning to ensure you figure out what research you want to do, how to set it up, and make you meet with several potential research mentors. It just seems very personalized and student centered, with both flexibility and a lot of structure to help the student!
 
u_raptor said:
Vandy seems to really personalize the curriculum to be tailored around figuring out what you want to do, and making you competitive for it (third year flex time, early clinical rotations 2nd year for exposure, professional mentor, weekly college meetings, etc). They have great step scores, 2nd year clerkships are true pass/fail with no internal rankings, students seem incredibly happy (and there are many events to ensure student wellness, like the weekly college meetings to make it feel smaller, class retreats, etc). Hospital right next door. The 3rd year research is planned where you have to meet with the research office and they structure your planning to ensure you figure out what research you want to do, how to set it up, and make you meet with several potential research mentors. It just seems very personalized and student centered, with both flexibility and a lot of structure to help the student!
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This sounds like Mayo MN lite.
 
u_raptor said:
Vanderbilt admissions: yeah sorry raptor, great app but you ain't it chief

Me: nah I'm coming don't worry. See you there for second look :laugh:
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They can’t have an orchestra full of tubas. Not sure which instrument I am though.
 
Mr. Dr. Prof. Patrick said:
Oh, MB remove the lite. Sounds like Mayo lol It is all structured like that. I was saying sounds like a great school in a very half assed way.
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Nw lol. Well I hope they have the same impression for me then!
 
u_raptor said:
Vandy seems to really personalize the curriculum to be tailored around figuring out what you want to do, and making you competitive for it (third year flex time, early clinical rotations 2nd year for exposure, professional mentor, weekly college meetings, etc). They have great step scores, 2nd year clerkships are true pass/fail with no internal rankings, students seem incredibly happy (and there are many events to ensure student wellness, like the weekly college meetings to make it feel smaller, class retreats, etc). Hospital right next door. The 3rd year research is planned where you have to meet with the research office and they structure your planning to ensure you figure out what research you want to do, how to set it up, and make you meet with several potential research mentors. It just seems very personalized and student centered, with both flexibility and a lot of structure to help the student!
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Wait mandatory clerkships are true pass/fail?? I thought that was only like UCSF/Harvard/CCLCM.

Tbh I got the same vibe from Duke though (aside from P/F clerkships). Why Vandy over Duke?
 
Enterococcus said:
Wait mandatory clerkships are true pass/fail?? I thought that was only like UCSF/Harvard/CCLCM.

Tbh I got the same vibe from Duke though (aside from P/F clerkships). Why Vandy over Duke?
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Second year clerkships are true pass fail yes! And I asked students to double check and they confirmed.
For one, the third year isn't solely research at vandy. You also do advanced electives and sub Is, which I don't recall duke touching on that much. Third year is also extremely flexible in terms of order There's also the college system (which I love), because it both makes the class feel small and they actually do weekly events with it. At duke it is just advising groups instead. There also seems to be more mentoring at vandy (you have the college with an advisor, the research program in which the office helps you find a research mentors, and the professional portfolio mentor). Student wellness at vandy also seems to be more important (iirc they are one of the "happiest" schools according to post grad surveys). And I also just love TN as a state (born there, always wanted to go back).

Duke is great and a top choice for me, but I vibed more here I guess
 
u_raptor said:
Vandy seems to really personalize the curriculum to be tailored around figuring out what you want to do, and making you competitive for it (third year flex time, early clinical rotations 2nd year for exposure, professional mentor, weekly college meetings, etc). They have great step scores, 2nd year clerkships are true pass/fail with no internal rankings, students seem incredibly happy (and there are many events to ensure student wellness, like the weekly college meetings to make it feel smaller, class retreats, etc). Hospital right next door. The 3rd year research is planned where you have to meet with the research office and they structure your planning to ensure you figure out what research you want to do, how to set it up, and make you meet with several potential research mentors. It just seems very personalized and student centered, with both flexibility and a lot of structure to help the student!
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curious why you think high Step scores are important. I have the impression that steps are like the MCAT and they have no correlation to where you go to medical school.
 
notsobabydoc said:
curious why you think high Step scores are important. I have the impression that steps are like the MCAT and they have no correlation to where you go to medical school.
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Wut :laugh:

Steps 1 and 2 are the standardized tests you take in medical school, typically after years 2 and 3. They are like the MCAT in that they are standardized to a curve. Residency directors put a lot of value in them, similar to MCAT w med school in that they determine where you go for resdiency after med school.

Scores do vary bw schools, and some schools consistently produce higher steps in their students, which could be a testament to their curriculum, professors, or resources. Some schools are known for lower scores, which give the impression the school might not be as "good". Yes a lot is up to the student, but where you go to school can have a significant impact on your preparedness for steps I believe
 
notsobabydoc said:
curious why you think high Step scores are important. I have the impression that steps are like the MCAT and they have no correlation to where you go to medical school.
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u_raptor said:
Wut :laugh:

Steps 1 and 2 are the standardized tests you take in medical school, typically after years 2 and 3. They are like the MCAT in that they are standardized to a curve. Residency directors put a lot of value in them, similar to MCAT w med school in that they determine where you go for resdiency after med school.

Scores do vary bw schools, and some schools consistently produce higher steps in their students, which could be a testament to their curriculum, professors, or resources. Some schools are known for lower scores, which give the impression the school might not be as "good". Yes a lot is up to the student, but where you go to school can have a significant impact on your preparedness for steps I believe
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Also I believe @limeyguydr has a spreadsheet for schools that also includes their step scores for 1 & 2. And iirc it shows variation bw school
 
JessicaJones123 said:
The Step scores seem to be highly correlated to the med schools matriculated median MCATs. IE: Those good at standardized testing continue their success.
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This correlation is often cited when justifying the importance of the MCAT in admissions decisions (along with the fact that it allows for a comparison among different undergraduate institutions).
 
Do you guys think it's too late to send a secondary to Vandy? I'd be able to submit it by this Sunday (9/29) the latest. I have solid EC's and LM 75. Just want to know if it'd be too late/waste of $ :/
 
kikihut said:
Do you guys think it's too late to send a secondary to Vandy? I'd be able to submit it by this Sunday (9/29) the latest. I have solid EC's and LM 75. Just want to know if it'd be too late/waste of $ :/
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When did you receive the secondary?
 
notsobabydoc said:
I meant that you have to study yourself anyway for those tests, so the school name doesn't really translate to a high score itself.
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As shown by limeyguy's spreadsheet, which school you go to can correlate a bit to your step score. Yes, it is a self studied exam as well. However, top tier school might have more resources, a better designed curriculum that focuses on prepping for step, or have varying amounts of dedicated step time after clerkships instead of before (which seems to help). It is on you ultimately, but where you go helps.
 
u_raptor said:
As shown by limeyguy's spreadsheet, which school you go to can correlate a bit to your step score. Yes, it is a self studied exam as well. However, top tier school might have more resources, a better designed curriculum that focuses on prepping for step, or have varying amounts of dedicated step time after clerkships instead of before (which seems to help). It is on you ultimately, but where you go helps.
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Someone rejected Uraptor???????!!!!!!! How could this be???
 
I submitted an application for this school in July but still haven’t received a secondary. Should I be concerned? Was I screened out?
 
Combee29 said:
I submitted an application for this school in July but still haven’t received a secondary. Should I be concerned? Was I screened out?
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Vandy has a stat cutoff to send the secondary automatically, but goes through the other applications manually and decides whether to send it out or not. It is possible you may have been screened out. Not sure how long it takes them to go through and send the manual ones.
 
tessellations said:
Vandy has a stat cutoff to send the secondary automatically, but goes through the other applications manually and decides whether to send it out or not. It is possible you may have been screened out. Not sure how long it takes them to go through and send the manual ones.
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AMCAS Verified 7/12, received secondary 7/29
3.99/512 URM, I'm assuming I was one of the manual send-outs.
 
dwu12 said:
For the challenge question, did people use personal adversity or a professional problem such as something difficult at work?
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I talked a lot about personal adversity in the autobiography, so I used a professional challenge for the second prompt.
 
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