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Please tag a pre-allo moderator when the secondary prompt is posted.

Good luck to everyone applying!

Interview Feedback: Rowan University

Secondary Prompts 2020-2021:

1. Please write a personal mission statement for yourself as a student at CMSRU. How will CMSRU help you fulfill your mission?(1500 characters)

2. Please describe your anticipated educational, employment, volunteer or other activities between completing your AMCAS application and matriculating to medical school.(1500 characters)

3. Describe a challenging situation you faced and what you did to address it.(1500 characters)

4. How has the Covid-19 Pandemic changed your view of medicine?(1500 characters)

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I don't know her that well, but yes!

EDIT: Unless something happened, she's going to be an M4!
Ahh thats def possible. I don't keep with her as much anymore as doing my own applications has taken over my life!
 
Please tag a pre-allo moderator when the secondary prompt is posted.

Good luck to everyone applying!

Interview Feedback: Rowan University


Secondary Prompts

1. Please write a personal mission statement for yourself as a student at CMSRU. How will CMSRU help you fulfill your mission?(1500 characters)

2. Please describe your anticipated educational, employment, volunteer or other activities between completing your AMCAS application and matriculating to medical school.(1500 characters)

3. Describe a challenging situation you faced and what you did to address it.(1500 characters)

4. How has the Covid-19 Pandemic changed your view of medicine?(1500 characters)


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Keeps saying the application page is not complete and will not let me fill In the SSN slot which is what makes it incomplete. Anyone else having this issue
 
Keeps saying the application page is not complete and will not let me fill In the SSN slot which is what makes it incomplete. Anyone else having this issue

Try clicking on “Reset” next to the SSN textbox and that should allow you to enter the SSN
 
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Primary sent 7/16
Secondary recieved 7/16
OOS
 
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Thanks y'all!

1. Can you expound a bit on the preclinical curriculum? What is the typical weekly schedule like? What is the division between PBL & lecture? How many mandatory sessions / hours are there per week?

2. Any thoughts on the facilities for the school (preclinical) or affiliated hospitals?

3. How is Camden / Philly? What are some misconceptions about it? What are some of the negative aspects about it? Is it possible to live outside the city in suburbs easily?

4. What is research like there? More clinical or basic emphasized? Competitive?
 
Slightly Copy/pasted b/c I have no time today. Re-ask what isn't clear to you, so I can tell what to explain further or in general:

Monday, Wednesday, and Friday is ALG. That's mandatory and starts at 8 AM.
You have FMP on Tuesdays and Thursdays, starting around 10 AM. Some of these are mandatory, some aren't.
On Thursdays, you have Scholar's Workshop. That starts at 8 AM and is sometimes not mandatory.

We wouldn't be here if we didn't care about the community. Genuinely. Cooper does a great job at stating its mission, giving back, and actually caring. They'll see if you fit that bill during your interviews. I think we have a chip on our shoulder, being surrounded by Penn, etc. and being new, that we really strive to put our heads down and go to work, and for the right reasons. There's minimal show-boating w/ helping poverty-porn or patting us or the school on the back. I mean that in terms of: we as a school and definitely as a student body don't need cameras to be on us in order to hand out a sandwich or help someone cross the street, if you get my point.

There is a lot of mandatory stuff that's required. It is a drag sometimes, but I take this route: everything has a purpose, and you can either become cynical and burnt-out complaining about all these mandatory events, or you can go in and try to get at least one positive thing from that event. Any bit of learning, POVs, etc. is a win and will make you a better person and doctor. Example: you don't want to necessarily be that person who scoffs at the presentation to do Anki. I always say remove the stick and pay attention; there's something they want you to get out of this (or something you can get out of this).

Best part: I love clinic. It's once every couple of weeks, but as soon as you get your white coat, you have patients with your entirely student-run team. You learn so much if you want to, and you'll be able to give better reports than a lot of residents can (actually has come up; in 3rd year, people have gotten compliments from residents b/c they're "so much better at this" than some of their colleagues).

I love WOW as well. You get a week free of classes to go in the hospital on different services and just learn. No expectations. Just observe if you want. All the way up to being so involved you think it's dangerous that the attending is letting you do it. I walked onto my ICU rotation on nights, and there was an immediate peri-arrest. I asked to go in and help the nurses, should the pt spiral. And damned if I didn't have the best time in that room, being more than just a student.

I'll be honest and real always, b/c I believe you should go to wherever you're happy, not be suckered into a place that you're miserable at. Medical school is hard (but overblown in difficulty in my opinion) and so your mental health is arguably the most important resource to protect. You want your institution to reflect that goal.

CMSRU does an excellent job caring for us. The staff sees us as humans, and we have great programs and to make sure to catch you before you fall. We even have a psychiatrist that partners with us from Rowan and a large portion of her days are in appointments w/ students. That is, if need be. Point being that she has blocks of time dedicated just for us. And, our PCP is in-house, and she's great. Very easy to get appointments with her and she takes time with us to help us out. Again, she has specific blocks of time for us, if need be. And she's so willing to do anything for us that she'll move appointments around to see you.

Liz is our student support specialist. She's awesome. You can talk to her for literally anything. She welcomes you to talk to her, good or bad, and if she doesn't have an answer, she'll get one. I've emailed her countless times. And if we're being honest, she has, along with our PCP Dr. Rosengarten and our psychiatrist Dr. Maymind, literally saved my life. Due to circumstances, I was in a very bad place and had no real outlet, and they pulled me back. So, Cooper cares. I can promise you that.

We have resources. What do you mean specifically? We have a great program that is very intertwined with the hospital. Everyone wants to teach, and it shows. Barely anyone is here just to get grant money, and that's reflected in the lack of inattentiveness towards us and our education. Don't get me wrong, Cooper does silly, stupid things from time to time, but that's not big. An example being, an admin emailed a private reply meant for a student to the entire class; it was nothing bad, but the whole concept was embarrassing. Pretty funny for everyone in the end though!

Plenty of opportunities for mentorship and leadership. We have a 'dating' event where everyone gets together (CMSRU and hospital faculty) and you round robin, learning about their research on your own time. It's very successful, and builds good rapport. And research is as easy as emailing someone. Most get back to you, but there's always work to be done. Benchwork or clinical, and we just opened a new joint science research building (you probably know this) and received a huge research grant that's been attracting a lot of big names to us.

Classes are recorded, certain things aren't. Lecture is, but for example, most interactive sessions aren't. They just don't record well, so there's no point. I like the structure that Cooper has, and they teach you to be a good doctor and person, and not just a robot. I like that. We have FMP, our doctoring course, w/ many hands-on lessions in the sim center. Then scholar's which, is not my favorite (I hate stats), but necessary for step eventually. The second year scholar's is far less stats, and more just discussions.

The first 8 (?) weeks are fundamentals, and so they really bring you up to speed. They don't throw you into cardio. It's a very friendly start, especially to, example, those who haven't been to school in a while or who weren't science majors. I used it as time to find out what worked for me in medical school.

Week on the wards was my favorite part, as you get a full week of nothing but shadowing and goofing off in the hospital on many different rotations, just for experience and learning what they all do. So amazing, I worked on a code [read: compressions] in the ICU, saw an ICU pt into surgery to fix her broken gastric bypass, saw a case of AFM on the meds floor. Speaking of peds, I went in not caring about peds at all, and as a result of doing WoW, I'm probably 20% into peds now. I did overnights and it was so amazing, parents love you, etc. And the best part: no expectations right off from them about you. You're free to do as much or as little as you want, and they won't be mad (don't do this though, really try to get involved!). Multiple surgeries, a davinci bilateral hysterectomy.

And clinic. In September, you start seeing pts at the clinic in a team. Many others don't do this like we do. We see uninsured Camden pts, and your team methodically works through their cases. M1s do Hx, M2s PE, and M3s A/P. But it's all in the team, and that's what's nice; you always have a safety net. And the attendings are amazing and so helpful and talented in teaching. I get a lot out of this. It's been said on multiple occasions that people in the hospital are genuinely impressed when they learn in 3rd year that we aren't paper weights and actually can provide way-above-average verbal reports. The same goes for residents from Cooper; their programs have went, "woah, you aren't useless? I don't have to teach you how to give a decent report? This is great!".

Plenty of free time to do whatever, so a life is possible. Cooper encourages that (again, health is key). Plenty to do in the suburbs and plenty to do across the bridge in Philly, and both are a ten minute PATCO ride (the rail system is amazing, much unlike what I'm used back home).

Oh, and we do community service, but I like it here b/c Cooper doesn't do it for publicity or anything; our mission is to give back to the community, and that's what we do (above and beyond). And we don't, and the institution doesn't, hold cameras out before we go to serve, if you know what I mean. We put our heads down, and do the work that we set out to do, and do much more than simply checking boxes for service.
 
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Camden is really what you make of it. Some of it's dangerous of course, but not really if you aren't being stupid (e.g., if you find yourself in an alley at 8 pm: play stupid games, win stupid prizes).

You'll get the beggar here and there, but as an example, people walk north 3 blocks to the Broadway PATCO and are always fine. The police are always around too, so they keep just the right amount of peace.

It's really no different than NYC or Baltimore. Hairy places here and there. My only recommendation is to not walk south down Broadway towards the inner-inner city. There's literally no reason to go down that way (but do try the bodega across from CMSRU and just 100 feet up the street on the corner (the only thing worth going down Broadway for) if you want a cheap deli sandwich or the cheap anything really. It's worth it. Not the boujee place RIGHT across the street, that's expensive (good, but expensive)).
 
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There's 3 main places to live for CMSRU and/or Cooper. Haddon Township or other outlying townships, Camden, Philly.

Haddon Township is just outside of Camden. More suburban, I commute about 15 minutes by PATCO or my car, depending on the day (same distance and time). Has malls, parks, PATCO lines, food. You name it. I like it b/c you can go to Philly or Camden, then like a great aunt or uncle does, "give the child back" as in, say, I''ve enjoyed Philly for the day, I'm going home now. I say Haddon but I really mean Voorhees, etc. All on the Jersey side, close enough to, but not, Camden.

Philly to me is great. And a lot of people live there. Personally, I don't like the return on investment of living there. If you can get a steal next to a PATCO stop, then cool. That's up to you!
 
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Does anyone know what the cut off is for their screening process?
 
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Hey guys, what exactly do they mean in the secondary app when they say write your own personal mission at CMSRU? I'm just kinda confused by the wording.
 
Me (IS) and my significant other (OOS) just received an II! First one of the cycle
 
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Me (IS) and my significant other (OOS) just received an II! First one of the cycle
Congrats!! Didn't realize Cooper started sending II already. Do you mind sharing your stats?
 
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what day did ya'll submit? and congratuations, good luck!!
 
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II this morning. IS, LizzyM 70.

Verified 6/11, marked complete on 7/19!
 
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Congrats to all of you with IIs! Did any of you guys apply early decision?
 
I didn't apply early decision.
Was anyone able to secure an August interview date? September was the earliest that I could sign up for.
 
I completed my secondary 7/14, and I haven't received a II. I'm OOS. Can I assume that I was rejected?
 
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Haven't received a secondary yet despite being verified for July 10th...now seeing them send interviews :(
 
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Wow first one of the schools I applied to that’s started sending IIs! Haven’t gotten one (yet ) but it’s def exciting to see the process starting!!

congrats to all those who got IIs!!!
 
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For those that recieved interviews did your application status ever change? Mine just says that my application is "ready" not that it's under review or anything. Submitted 7/15
 
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For those that recieved interviews did your application status ever change? Mine just says that my application is "ready" not that it's under review or anything. Submitted 7/15
No, it went straight from ready to II for me.
 
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My primary was verified on July 19th, and I still haven't received a secondary from them, and I'm in-state.
I know this school screens, so if they reject my primary, will they send an email saying that I'm rejected, or will I just never hear from them?
 
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My primary was verified on July 19th, and I still haven't received a secondary from them, and I'm in-state.
I know this school screens, so if they reject my primary, will they send an email saying that I'm rejected, or will I just never hear from them?
You should probably reach out to them directly and ask what the situation is.
I'm IS and verified 7/28, and I received my secondary 7/29.
 
You should probably reach out to them directly and ask what the situation is.
I'm IS and verified 7/28, and I received my secondary 7/29.
I just reached out to them by email and they sent the secondary
 
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How picky are they about their applicants? I’m a Tri-State resident (not NJ) and still don’t have their secondary.
 
How picky are they about their applicants? I’m a Tri-State resident (not NJ) and still don’t have their secondary.
Not too picky, I'm not from tristate and got secondary you should give it some more time since they're probably delayed!
 
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I know it's still very early but does anyone know how often they sent out IIs?
 
More IIs have been sent out today according to the II tracker.

Seems as thought CMSRU sends them out on Fridays and it has been a two week gap since the last IIs. That could be a pattern they’re following
 
More IIs have been sent out today according to the II tracker.

Seems as thought CMSRU sends them out on Fridays and it has been a two week gap since the last IIs. That could be a pattern they’re following
i submitted my secondary on 7/31 but didn't receive an II today ;( RIP
 
i submitted my secondary on 7/31 but didn't receive an II today ;( RIP
A quick scan of the data shows basically everyone who got an II was a super high stat applicant and mainly IS so I wouldn’t worry too much rn. It’s only been two rounds of IIs too
 
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