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Does MCAT still being weighted hardly for final decision? Currently have received 2 WL from DO schools. I'm very panic. I actually have a 503 (121 in CARS, I'm ESL). IMO, receiving II because of my stella story and mission fit.
From my understanding, UW still uses MCAT and GPA in their decisions even after interview (a podcast floating around as source), but it doesn’t weigh as heavily once you get the II. UW also really loves their mission fit and will reject those with high stats but don’t fit their mission( 33% in state acceptances, people I know who go to T-20 schools didnt get into UW). You got this 🙂
On another note, I’d love to do a mock interview with you some time to ensure there’s no red flags in your interview skills that led to the waitlists. (unlikely). Pm me if youre interested
 
From my understanding, UW still uses MCAT and GPA in their decisions even after interview (a podcast floating around as source), but it doesn’t weigh as heavily once you get the II. UW also really loves their mission fit and will reject those with high stats but don’t fit their mission( 33% in state acceptances, people I know who go to T-20 schools didnt get into UW). You got this 🙂
On another note, I’d love to do a mock interview with you some time to ensure there’s no red flags in your interview skills that led to the waitlists. (unlikely). Pm me if youre interested

hmm here is what's from the UWSOM website. The accepted MCAT range is from 494 to 528. I think they really use a holistic approach and look at the mission fit very closely given the accepted students' MCAT range. Please correct me if I am wrong. Maybe some at the lower end of the MCAT score range have a disadvantaged background, which could result in a lower MCAT score? it's just my speculation
 
hmm here is what's from the UWSOM website. The accepted MCAT range is from 494 to 528. I think they really use a holistic approach and look at the mission fit very closely given the accepted students' MCAT range. Please correct me if I am wrong. Maybe some at the lower end of the MCAT score range have a disadvantaged background, which could result in a lower MCAT score? it's just my speculation
Since they’ve made MCAT optional for folks that have not taken it, their response to inquiries about why they would still evaluate those with an existing score is because for some applicants, their MCAT is what helps them stand out and they wouldn’t want to diminish opportunity for those folks.
To me, it sounds like they are really committed to holistic review and MCAT may be one aspect of consideration but the biggest piece of the puzzle is mission fit.
 
Since they’ve made MCAT optional for folks that have not taken it, their response to inquiries about why they would still evaluate those with an existing score is because for some applicants, their MCAT is what helps them stand out and they wouldn’t want to diminish opportunity for those folks.
To me, it sounds like they are really committed to holistic review and MCAT may be one aspect of consideration but the biggest piece of the puzzle is mission fit.

I concur!!
 
I wonder if we’re still being considered since they’re probably busy with interviews now
Not hearing back could be either (a) you are not yet rejected, so you are still in the race; or (b you are not yet accepted, so you are rejected! Personally, with my background, UW is a almost-certain R, but I will concede only if I receive an official R. Till then, I am staying positive!
 
Not hearing back could be either (a) you are not yet rejected, so you are still in the race; or (b you are not yet accepted, so you are rejected! Personally, with my background, UW is a almost-certain R, but I will concede only if I receive an official R. Till then, I am staying positive!
Hmm if they sent a missions statement I don’t think you’re an almost certain R. They’re not shy with Rs
 
Hey Spokane cohort! Is there any notice of interview date selection?
 
Hey Spokane cohort! Is there any notice of interview date selection?
Email received to select date yesterday (10:24), but date had not been confirmed. Interviews dates I saw were 11/ 16,11/18, and 11/19
 
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Email received to select date yesterday (10:24), but date had not been confirmed. Interviews dates I saw were 11/ 16,11/18, and 11/19
Received II on 10/7/20, I think you received few days earlier, hopefully they don't forget me lol 🙂
 
Interview scheduled on 11/18/20. Currently the 11/17 is full. (Spokane)
 
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Does anyone know what it is like for students trying at the regional campuses that are trying to match into non-primary care or competitive specialties? Obviously, the main goal of the regional areas is to promote primary care in that state, but the match lists show that there are still people who can match into top-notch residencies from the regional sites. How do they do it?

For example, if I wanted to match into Dermatology (not actually my preferred specialty rn), would I meet any sort of resistance or extra hoops to jump through compared to the path to matching at a regular medical school. What comes to mind for me is the blatant research arms race for some of those specialties. I would imagine it would be difficult to have longitudinal research due to the transient nature of the regional sites, and it would be difficult to get the number of pubs that many students have. Do people have to go to Seattle for the summers for research, do they try to do most clerkships in Seattle, or can they match into more selective specialties while still doing something like TRACK at one of the regional sites?

I guess what I'm basically asking is if anyone has any insight into what the process is like for the regional students that are trying to go into things beyond primary care!

Also, if asked about this in the interview, do most people lie and say they are interested in primary care? I'm not opposed to being a PCP by any means, but it has never been high on my list. I don't want to be disingenuous about my intentions though during the interview.
 
Does anyone know what it is like for students trying at the regional campuses that are trying to match into non-primary care or competitive specialties? Obviously, the main goal of the regional areas is to promote primary care in that state, but the match lists show that there are still people who can match into top-notch residencies from the regional sites. How do they do it?

For example, if I wanted to match into Dermatology (not actually my preferred specialty rn), would I meet any sort of resistance or extra hoops to jump through compared to the path to matching at a regular medical school. What comes to mind for me is the blatant research arms race for some of those specialties. I would imagine it would be difficult to have longitudinal research due to the transient nature of the regional sites, and it would be difficult to get the number of pubs that many students have. Do people have to go to Seattle for the summers for research, do they try to do most clerkships in Seattle, or can they match into more selective specialties while still doing something like TRACK at one of the regional sites?

I guess what I'm basically asking is if anyone has any insight into what the process is like for the regional students that are trying to go into things beyond primary care!

Also, if asked about this in the interview, do most people lie and say they are interested in primary care? I'm not opposed to being a PCP by any means, but it has never been high on my list. I don't want to be disingenuous about my intentions though during the interview.

Hi Idahomie,

I did my undergraduate in UW Seattle and had a publication in American College of Rheum and another in Europe. They have plenty of research opportunities and they welcomes med students. I believe your achievement here will be more fruitful.

For example, if you want to match to Derm, you may need to have more than 10 pubs, that's what I learn from the med school insiders' youtube. I know someone also take a gap year before match, trying to get as much pubs in Derm as possible.

If your goals is a specialty not as competitive as Derm, I think you don't have to concern about it bc UWSOM is a top 20 school by NIH and USNEWS. It will help you to get there.

If you really want to match in a ultra competitive specialty, I would say try to get as much pubs as possible and it will make you a stronger applicant! Take summer research interns in Seattle as much as you can.

Don't lie if you don't like PC. They will notice that if it doesn't match your app. I really love PC and most of my activities and research are about PC. Maybe that's why they invite me to interview. Just show them your mission fitness and you'll be sucessful! Good luck!


Hope it helps!
 
Does anyone know what it is like for students trying at the regional campuses that are trying to match into non-primary care or competitive specialties? Obviously, the main goal of the regional areas is to promote primary care in that state, but the match lists show that there are still people who can match into top-notch residencies from the regional sites. How do they do it?

For example, if I wanted to match into Dermatology (not actually my preferred specialty rn), would I meet any sort of resistance or extra hoops to jump through compared to the path to matching at a regular medical school. What comes to mind for me is the blatant research arms race for some of those specialties. I would imagine it would be difficult to have longitudinal research due to the transient nature of the regional sites, and it would be difficult to get the number of pubs that many students have. Do people have to go to Seattle for the summers for research, do they try to do most clerkships in Seattle, or can they match into more selective specialties while still doing something like TRACK at one of the regional sites?

I guess what I'm basically asking is if anyone has any insight into what the process is like for the regional students that are trying to go into things beyond primary care!

Also, if asked about this in the interview, do most people lie and say they are interested in primary care? I'm not opposed to being a PCP by any means, but it has never been high on my list. I don't want to be disingenuous about my intentions though during the interview.
Regardless of what site you're at, we're all UW. Regional sites have (almost always) equal access to the opportunities afforded to the Seattle class, so a person in Alaska will have the same chances at a competitive specialty as someone in Seattle. I'm at one of the smaller regional sites, and I've felt like our class gets more attention and one-on-one time due to our smaller size. We can access a lot of things out of Seattle (for example, we can do research with Seattle faculty, even if we're not part of the Seattle cohort). The regional sites have their own administration but otherwise everything is pretty standardized across UW.

Yes, UW's match list is heavier on primary care, but don't forget that it's also a T-10/15 school and is a clinical/research powerhouse. UW's got plenty of opportunities to do research. So UW's brand + research capabilities will help a lot with those competitive specialties. You are NOT required to go down to Seattle for research; every regional site has its own faculty and research projects. Additionally, specific programs exist at UW where you can do longitudinal research (not 100% sure on details but they exist). The biggest tip I have is that if you're trying to get into something competitive, it's best to know that early on. That way you can prepare in advance and get in as much research as possible. It's risky if you realize you want to do derm towards the end of MS3 and don't have a lot of derm research to show for it. @Taskha 's advice is spot on.

To my knowledge, a lot of kids do the WWAMI Safari. Nothing really ties you down to Seattle. However, if there's a specific specialty you want to get into, you usually try to do that clerkship in Seattle. So for example, if you want to get into EM, you'll try to schedule your EM rotation down in Seattle. Or if you want to do ophtho, schedule an ophtho rotation there. I would love an MS3 or MS4's input on this, but I don't think doing a TRACK will limit your choice of specialties.

It's better not to lie if you're asked about what specialty you want to go into. Don't say primary care if you're not interested in it. UW matches several people to competitive specialties every year, so it's not a deal breaker. You can always say you're keeping your options open too.

EDIT: Here is UW's 2019 Match List. There are some bomb competitive matches.
 
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For those who have already interviewed, how many days prior to your preferred interview date did you receive a confirmation?
 
Does anyone know what it is like for students trying at the regional campuses that are trying to match into non-primary care or competitive specialties? Obviously, the main goal of the regional areas is to promote primary care in that state, but the match lists show that there are still people who can match into top-notch residencies from the regional sites. How do they do it?

For example, if I wanted to match into Dermatology (not actually my preferred specialty rn), would I meet any sort of resistance or extra hoops to jump through compared to the path to matching at a regular medical school. What comes to mind for me is the blatant research arms race for some of those specialties. I would imagine it would be difficult to have longitudinal research due to the transient nature of the regional sites, and it would be difficult to get the number of pubs that many students have. Do people have to go to Seattle for the summers for research, do they try to do most clerkships in Seattle, or can they match into more selective specialties while still doing something like TRACK at one of the regional sites?

I guess what I'm basically asking is if anyone has any insight into what the process is like for the regional students that are trying to go into things beyond primary care!

Also, if asked about this in the interview, do most people lie and say they are interested in primary care? I'm not opposed to being a PCP by any means, but it has never been high on my list. I don't want to be disingenuous about my intentions though during the interview.
I chose to be completely honest, I would hope others interviewing at UW would do the same.
 
For those who have already interviewed, how many days prior to your preferred interview date did you receive a confirmation?
i got mine the same day I scheduled my interview. I think it depends on if your interviewers are available during your preferred date and time.
 
Does anyone know what it is like for students trying at the regional campuses that are trying to match into non-primary care or competitive specialties? Obviously, the main goal of the regional areas is to promote primary care in that state, but the match lists show that there are still people who can match into top-notch residencies from the regional sites. How do they do it?

For example, if I wanted to match into Dermatology (not actually my preferred specialty rn), would I meet any sort of resistance or extra hoops to jump through compared to the path to matching at a regular medical school. What comes to mind for me is the blatant research arms race for some of those specialties. I would imagine it would be difficult to have longitudinal research due to the transient nature of the regional sites, and it would be difficult to get the number of pubs that many students have. Do people have to go to Seattle for the summers for research, do they try to do most clerkships in Seattle, or can they match into more selective specialties while still doing something like TRACK at one of the regional sites?

I guess what I'm basically asking is if anyone has any insight into what the process is like for the regional students that are trying to go into things beyond primary care!

Also, if asked about this in the interview, do most people lie and say they are interested in primary care? I'm not opposed to being a PCP by any means, but it has never been high on my list. I don't want to be disingenuous about my intentions though during the interview.

I’m a Spokane MS1 and UW alum so maybe I can provide an insiders perspective. If you’re looking for the super competitive residencies, I’d say Seattle will probably be a tad bit better for research in the sense that it’s easier sans COVID to go door to door looking for research. That being said, it’s easy as hell to find quality research in Spokane simply because we’re still part of UW. Sure, you won’t be able to find nearly as many wet labs but clinical research? It’s as all you can eat as it gets. I mean, as an undergrad... with absolutely no medical knowledge, I was swimming in research and publications (I think I’m up to 8 or 9, all earned in 2 years during undergrad) simply because I knew where to look and I got mentors fortunately in the field I’m interested in, helping me out. Anyways, if you’re willing to do the legwork, you will find more opportunities than you can handle even as a regional cohort. Especially since covid’s a thing and people are more ok with students working from home. UW will not baby you in the sense that they won’t push you to be a research jockey but at the same time, literally nothing’s stopping you from doing so. I mean, if I ranked pass/fail with UW’s research endowments isn’t enough to make you competitive for the top residencies. I don’t know what will... or rather I do, some schools like vtech incorporate research into their curriculums... but let’s be honest, if everyone is required to do something is anyone special? As for your question on whether people lie, maybe but I don’t know about it. What worked for me was simply being as authentically me as it gets.
 
I’m obviously not an official spokesman, but I’m happy to talk to anyone about what it’s like to be a UWSOM student. Also, I wasn’t trying to flex at all so I do apologize if it came across that way. I just want you guys to know that finding research/racking up publications is easy if you want it and of course that UW isn’t just for people interested in primary care. Just because UW selects people who look interested in primary care doesn’t mean they aren’t incredibly supportive of their students with non-primary care aspirations
 
Hi,

After an interview does anybody recommend sending a letter of intent at UW?
I know they don't like thank you letters etc., but is an LOI different?
 
Hi,

After an interview does anybody recommend sending a letter of intent at UW?
I know they don't like thank you letters etc., but is an LOI different?

I believe the interview website specifically says that they do not accept LOI or thank you letters. Please correct me if I am wrong. It's just something that I remember they reiterated multiple times during check-in, information session, and etc. so...I guess it's a no?
 
Hi,

After an interview does anybody recommend sending a letter of intent at UW?
I know they don't like thank you letters etc., but is an LOI different?
Don’t do it. They honestly don’t care because they know that if you’re accepted, you’ll most likely take their offer. That and if you think about it, they’ve probably already made their decision and/or their minds up about whether you’re a good fit. So at best, a letter won’t help you and at worst it’ll show you’re desperate
 
I presume apps are reviewed chronologically (for IS - WA/Seattle at least)? Anyone who submitted earlier in September still waiting (is it an R?)?
 
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Any mission statement people still waiting heard anything yet?
What is the mission statement thing? Is this something they send to OOR applicants? I completed residency forms thrn secondary for IS applicant. Completed 10/4 awaiting further communication still.
 
What is the mission statement thing? Is this something they send to OOR applicants? I completed residency forms thrn secondary for IS applicant. Completed 10/4 awaiting further communication still.
Yeah it’s only for out of region people. They send it to us to determine whether to send a secondary or not
 
Yeah it’s only for out of region people. They send it to us to determine whether to send a secondary or not
Got it! Thanks. I was panicking a little bit I missed something. I have 1 DO interview so far. But UW is my number one school.
BA organic from BGSU in Ohio 2000
Post Bacc Bellevue College in Counseling 2014
MSW UDub 2017 3.94 GPA
BSN (Accelerated) 2018 UDub 3.7 GPA
Research at UDub and 20,000 hours experience serving the underservedserved in primary care as both a social worker and registered nurse. Fingers crossed!
 
Got it! Thanks. I was panicking a little bit I missed something. I have 1 DO interview so far. But UW is my number one school.
BA organic from BGSU in Ohio 2000
Post Bacc Bellevue College in Counseling 2014
MSW UDub 2017 3.94 GPA
BSN (Accelerated) 2018 UDub 3.7 GPA
Research at UDub and 20,000 hours experience serving the underservedserved in primary care as both a social worker and registered nurse. Fingers crossed!
No you're good. it it just for OOR 🙂 super impressive resume. Best of luck!
 
Is the "virtual experience" referring to the opportunity to attend the "Meet the Dean and Current Students" events? Or, is there something in addition? I assume they are the same thing but wanted to check. Thank you!
 
Is the "virtual experience" referring to the opportunity to attend the "Meet the Dean and Current Students" events? Or, is there something in addition? I assume they are the same thing but wanted to check. Thank you!
Yes, the virtual experience had curriculum info, opportunities to meet student support staff, faculty, students, admissions etc! Lots of great information, definitely bring any questions you have (may not be time at the end of the interview.)
 
Yes, the virtual experience had curriculum info, opportunities to meet student support staff, faculty, students, admissions etc! Lots of great information, definitely bring any questions you have (may not be time at the end of the interview.)
Great, thank you lots!
 
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