2021-2022 Iowa (Carver)

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Following is a direct quote their website. This is one of the mysteries of the opaque medical school application process. Phrases such as "holistic reviews" & "rolling admissions" add to strategic ambiguity. There are so many different way to fill a "diverse" class - IS, OOS, spread around stats, "mission fit" (another one of those ambiguous terms). So to answer your question with a question - what do you think? Your analysis will be as good as any one's else.

Is there an advantage to interviewing early in the season?

Students are admitted on a rolling basis. Therefore, it is in the applicant’s best interest to schedule their interview as soon as possible after the invitation is received. Submitting all required application materials early will increase the chances of an early interview invitation.
Thank you. Yes it does seem like somewhat of a long shot at this point considering the # of OOS accepts they seem to have already given out. I’d love to go here but OOS post II acceptance rate doesn’t look very promising.

6 or 7 of the 13 schools I have interviews at are <35% post II acceptance rate.
 
I’m with you there, I interviewed 9/13. It seems like they tend to review higher stat applicants first and then review the rest a few months later. At least we’ll hear something no matter what in January😅
January? Oof. I remember when I interviewed they said 6-8 weeks, but it seems now that likely only applies to the top applicants. At least we have the holidays to make the next 2 months go faster!
 
Does anyone have any advise for the case-based learning portion of the interview? Just show up and be nice/involved? Also for the regular interview I have heard it is closed file - is that true? Thanks 🙂
 
Does anyone have any advise for the case-based learning portion of the interview? Just show up and be nice/involved? Also for the regular interview I have heard it is closed file - is that true? Thanks 🙂
+1 would like to know as well
 
Does anyone have any advise for the case-based learning portion of the interview? Just show up and be nice/involved? Also for the regular interview I have heard it is closed file - is that true? Thanks 🙂
The CBL part was very laid back and easy. Just participate and be respectful of your group members. I found it really enjoyable actually.

For the regular interview, it is closed file. All the interviewers know is your name, undergrad institution, and major.
 
Does anyone have any advise for the case-based learning portion of the interview? Just show up and be nice/involved? Also for the regular interview I have heard it is closed file - is that true? Thanks 🙂
Be polite, stay focused, don't talk over other people, look at whoever is speaking, don't make the session about you. It's pretty straightforward once you get going IMO...but one of my friends in my CBL group that interviewed last cycle did get dinged for 'being unfocused'. During the session, I had noticed that he kinda just talked a little too much, so don't do that.
 
Is anyone on here a current student @ Carver? I'd like to bug you with questions please. Thank you 🙂
 
Also an M2 that is procrastinating! Happy to answer any questions
Hi, I have a few questions 🙂
How do you like the curriculum of the school?
Do you feel like you have abundant early clinical exposure during M1, M2?
Do you feel safe around the campus, especially as a girl (If you are male, you can skip this part) 🙂
I know Carver has a very collaborative environment, do you feel "chilled" most of the time?
How do you like the Honor, near-honor, pass, fail grading system? Do you feel like this grading system makes you stressed? Is the score curved? Is there a standard cutoff for Honor, near-honor, pass, fail, or is it based on the percentage of the students, for example, only 10% can get the honor?

Sorry I have so many questions! I really appreciate your time!!!!
 
Current M2, feel free to message me any questions!
Hi, I have a few questions
How do you like the curriculum of the school?
Do you feel like you have abundant early clinical exposure during M1, M2?
Do you feel safe around the campus, especially as a girl (If you are male, you can skip this part) 🙂
I know Carver has a very collaborative environment, do you feel "chilled" most of the time?
How do you like the Honor, near-honor, pass, fail grading system? Do you feel like this grading system makes you stressed? Is the score curved? Is there a standard cutoff for Honor, near-honor, pass, fail, or is it based on the percentage of the students, for example, only 10% can get the honor?

Sorry I have so many questions! I really appreciate your time!!!!
 
Hi, I have a few questions 🙂
How do you like the curriculum of the school?
Do you feel like you have abundant early clinical exposure during M1, M2?
Do you feel safe around the campus, especially as a girl (If you are male, you can skip this part) 🙂
I know Carver has a very collaborative environment, do you feel "chilled" most of the time?
How do you like the Honor, near-honor, pass, fail grading system? Do you feel like this grading system makes you stressed? Is the score curved? Is there a standard cutoff for Honor, near-honor, pass, fail, or is it based on the percentage of the students, for example, only 10% can get the honor?

Sorry I have so many questions! I really appreciate your time!!!!
Hey! Those are all great questions
1) I love the curriculum and love the fact that we do 1 1/2 years preclinical and start clinicals halfway through M2 year. I start in January and I am super pumped!
2) I definitely feel we have a good amount of clinical exposure. We start early clinical experiences (ECE) from the first semester which is kinda "shadowing" but as a med student so you also incorporate some of the patient interviewing, history taking skills etc that we learn. My first one was the second week of school and the doc was like umm yeah I know you know nothing so just go ask how the patient is doing etc. As you progress especially towards the end of the first year you can see the progress you have made since you will be able to do a full history physical etc and now first semester 2nd year we are working on learning how to come up with a diagnosis + present to attendings since we will be doing that for real in January.
3) I am a male, but I definitely feel like campus at least the grad school / med school side of campus is safe. The undergrad side can be sketch sometimes.
4) I really like the collaborative environment we have. We have a group chat where people share resources, we get stuff from upper classman and also we have groups of students that split up the work and create anki decks for the class to use
5) Not a fan of the H/NH/P/F grading system because that can be stressful sometimes and it was my first semester, but after a while I just got in the mindset that getting honors in every class is not going to define me and probably not going to have a major impact on residencies since most programs care about clinical grades more than preclinical especially since there are schools that are P/F so residency directors have said it wouldn't be a fair tool to compare applicants. Honors isn't curved. You need a certain percentage which is around 90-92% (depends on the class). Near honors is curved and I believe 30-40% of the class will be in honors / near honors and the other 60-70% of the class would be a pass (or fail). The fail cutoff is 70% of the points.
 
Also an M2 that is procrastinating! Happy to answer any questions
I know Carver has a campus in Des Moines, so I’m curious how students who rotate there are assigned. Is it a choice that students who want to go there will make? Or are you chosen by admin or a lottery system type thing and essentially have an unplanned move to Des Moines for the duration of that rotation? I’m not sure if my wording makes sense, but basically do we have a choice to stay in Iowa City for all our rotations if that’s what we want? Thank you in advance!!
 
I know Carver has a campus in Des Moines, so I’m curious how students who rotate there are assigned. Is it a choice that students who want to go there will make? Or are you chosen by admin or a lottery system type thing and essentially have an unplanned move to Des Moines for the duration of that rotation? I’m not sure if my wording makes sense, but basically do we have a choice to stay in Iowa City for all our rotations if that’s what we want? Thank you in advance!!
Nobody is forced to go. You have to sign up to go and they have about 20 spots. Some people choose it because they cover your rent and because Des Moines doesn’t have residents, you will have more 1 on 1 interaction with the attendings. Usually they don’t have all the spots fill up so they have people from the Des Moines branch spam us with emails trying to get us to sign up, but this year all the spots filled up. I personally chose to stay in IC because it would be annoying to move halfway through 2nd year and figure out apartments that rent for 6 months and also I feel like you can see a lot more in Iowa city since they bring all the major cases from other hospital to u-iowa
 
Nobody is forced to go. You have to sign up to go and they have about 20 spots. Some people choose it because they cover your rent and because Des Moines doesn’t have residents, you will have more 1 on 1 interaction with the attendings. Usually they don’t have all the spots fill up so they have people from the Des Moines branch spam us with emails trying to get us to sign up, but this year all the spots filled up. I personally chose to stay in IC because it would be annoying to move halfway through 2nd year and figure out apartments that rent for 6 months and also I feel like you can see a lot more in Iowa city since they bring all the major cases from other hospital to u-iowa
Thank you, this is good to hear!
 
Hey! Those are all great questions
1) I love the curriculum and love the fact that we do 1 1/2 years preclinical and start clinicals halfway through M2 year. I start in January and I am super pumped!
2) I definitely feel we have a good amount of clinical exposure. We start early clinical experiences (ECE) from the first semester which is kinda "shadowing" but as a med student so you also incorporate some of the patient interviewing, history taking skills etc that we learn. My first one was the second week of school and the doc was like umm yeah I know you know nothing so just go ask how the patient is doing etc. As you progress especially towards the end of the first year you can see the progress you have made since you will be able to do a full history physical etc and now first semester 2nd year we are working on learning how to come up with a diagnosis + present to attendings since we will be doing that for real in January.
3) I am a male, but I definitely feel like campus at least the grad school / med school side of campus is safe. The undergrad side can be sketch sometimes.
4) I really like the collaborative environment we have. We have a group chat where people share resources, we get stuff from upper classman and also we have groups of students that split up the work and create anki decks for the class to use
5) Not a fan of the H/NH/P/F grading system because that can be stressful sometimes and it was my first semester, but after a while I just got in the mindset that getting honors in every class is not going to define me and probably not going to have a major impact on residencies since most programs care about clinical grades more than preclinical especially since there are schools that are P/F so residency directors have said it wouldn't be a fair tool to compare applicants. Honors isn't curved. You need a certain percentage which is around 90-92% (depends on the class). Near honors is curved and I believe 30-40% of the class will be in honors / near honors and the other 60-70% of the class would be a pass (or fail). The fail cutoff is 70% of the points.
Thanks!!! It is very helpful!!! I really appreciate your answers!
 
Oh come on Iowa 🥲not again
I wonder if they have been sending out acceptances the last 2 Tuesdays, but those who are getting accepted just aren't on SDN? I would like to think that they just haven't sent any out the last 2 weeks, but now I'm thinking that they have been sending them out as normal. It seems like there aren't that many on Iowa SDN this year.
 
I wonder if they have been sending out acceptances the last 2 Tuesdays, but those who are getting accepted just aren't on SDN? I would like to think that they just haven't sent any out the last 2 weeks, but now I'm thinking that they have been sending them out as normal. It seems like there aren't that many on Iowa SDN this year.
No way to know. No use stressing about speculation, see you all next week I guess!
 
Oh come on Iowa 🥲not again
I feel this. I was hoping that we would at least hear from one person
I wonder if they have been sending out acceptances the last 2 Tuesdays, but those who are getting accepted just aren't on SDN? I would like to think that they just haven't sent any out the last 2 weeks, but now I'm thinking that they have been sending them out as normal. It seems like there aren't that many on Iowa SDN this year.
That’s my guess too. Last year there were a few acceptances the Tuesday of Thanksgiving week so it’s not the holidays.
 
If you interviewed in September, and have not heard anything - should you start preparing for a reapplication?

GPA: 3.8
MCAT: 510
IS
I also interviewed in September and haven’t heard back. I remember during the presentation they mentioned that decisions weren’t made in chronological order and that we could hear back in mid November through mid December
 
These last couple of weeks have been so disheartening. It would be nice to see someone say that they have been accepted. The last time someone announced they got an A on here was 11/9. I am sure CCOM is still giving them out, but it would be nice to see that people are still getting in and see when they interviewed. 🙁
 
For those who have interviewed already, what was mask etiquette/social distancing like for in person interviews?
 
For people who interviewed virtually, did you get a more detailed schedule? I’m not sure what time my 2 on 1 interview and CBL is. Also if anyone has any tips, I’d really appreciate it!
 
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For people who interviewed virtually, did you get a more deta schedule? I’m not sure what time my 2 on 1 interview and CBL is.
I interviewed virtually and received a detailed interview day schedule about 1 week prior to the interview!

I found out about the exact times of the faculty interview and CBL on the day of. They take a little bit of time during the formal interview day programming to tell you when your interviews/CBL are.
 
For those who have interviewed already, what was mask etiquette/social distancing like for in person interviews?
For the most part, there wasn't much room for social distancing. For example, you spend most of the day at a conference table adjacent to other applicants. You're expected to wear your mask the whole time except when you eat lunch. During the actual interview, I had plexiglass in between the interviewers and me, and we all 3 wore masks during the interview.
 
This is a rough question to ask, and may get poor response, but has anyone been rejected after interviewing?
I was told I would either hear back in about four weeks with an acceptance or rejection, or be placed in the final pool and hear back most likely in February or March 15th at the latest.
Not hearing back yet does not surprise me, but I was wondering if they indeed have rejected some people along the way.
 
For those who have interviewed already, what was mask etiquette/social distancing like for in person interviews?
masks were on for everything except for the 2:1 interivew, they have a plexiglass screen in between both of you and them. They gave me the option to take my mask off or keep it on at that point, I chose to keep it on
 
This is a rough question to ask, and may get poor response, but has anyone been rejected after interviewing?
I was told I would either hear back in about four weeks with an acceptance or rejection, or be placed in the final pool and hear back most likely in February or March 15th at the latest.
Not hearing back yet does not surprise me, but I was wondering if they indeed have rejected some people along the way.
From what I understand (and from my experience last year), no one is rejected until the final pool decisions are announced in March. Last year I interviewed in October and got rejected in mid March.. The only time people hear back within the first month after their interviews is if they get accepted. A smaller portion of the class is accepted during that time-- the rest come from the final pool.
 
For those who interviewed virtually, do you find out the exact timing of your 30 minute interview on the day of? When did they tell you? Thanks!
 
For those who interviewed virtually, do you find out the exact timing of your 30 minute interview on the day of? When did they tell you? Thanks!
I found out about the exact times of the faculty interview and CBL on the day of. They take a little bit of time during the formal interview day programming to tell you when your interviews/CBL are.
 
If you interviewed in September, and have not heard anything - should you start preparing for a reapplication?

GPA: 3.8
MCAT: 510
IS
I applied twice and got in my second time. I was waitlisted / rejected the first application and while going through the weird limbo wait period from my interview to march, I kept working on improving my application and I am glad I did. I was able to add a lot of clinical experience, research, improve grades etc. If start working on your application when you for sure hear back in march, you only have 2-3 months to prepare for the next cycle which isn't a lot of time to change things. When I met with admissions after I got rejected they told me to improve x, y, z and I had already worked on changing a lot of that during the wait period from my interview so I was already set for my next application and I was accepted when I applied the second time. For the most part I am sure you are aware of your weaknesses so just work on improving that until you hear back for sure.

Feel free to PM if you need any advice or just want to vent about anything because I know how frustrating the wait period can be!
 
I remembered seeing something about completing a scholarly project as part of the curriculum and it showed some previous projects students did and now I can’t find it on the site. I’m 95% I’m remembering correctly that this was Iowa. Does anyone know what I’m talking about?
 
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