2021-2022 Temple

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Just fyi last year they released all decisions at once (acceptance, waitlist, rejections) so no update doesn't mean you're out.

Also, don't celebrate the moment you see "congratulations", cause temple likes to say "congratulations, you made our waitlist" haha. To be fair, their waitlist actually sees a lot of movement, which is probably why they say that.
 
charli-md-amelio said:
Make sure you are on the TUportal, not the secondary app portal. Under status: it will say admitted or something else depending on your decision. Up until today, mine read “Complete under review”
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Pardon my ignorance, but where would I get the login information for TU portal?
 
Waitlisted, interviewed 11/11. Hopefully it sees some movement later on this cycle!! Good luck to everyone
 
placed under continued review 😢 was nice knowing u all.. congrats to all of the As and good luck to those interviewing!
 
CC list this AM. From the email: Most offers to continuing candidates are made after April 30th and may be extended until the beginning of our orientation program in August.

Honestly unsure of what to do because this is the date i need to commit to enroll at the school I was accepted at? Anyone know how many get in off the waitlist? One of my top choices!

and congrats everyone!
 
medwannabe350 said:
CC list this AM. From the email: Most offers to continuing candidates are made after April 30th and may be extended until the beginning of our orientation program in August.

Honestly unsure of what to do because this is the date i need to commit to enroll at the school I was accepted at? Anyone know how many get in off the waitlist? One of my top choices!

and congrats everyone!
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4/30 is the PTE date at most schools, but is actually the CTE at very few schools. The 4/30 PTE deadline is the trigger that causes most people to drop their excess As, which is in turn the trigger for the vast majority of WL movement, which happens every single year in the weeks just before and after 4/30.

If your other school is truly one of the few that require CTE on 4/30, then, unfortunately, you are probably going to have to forget about Temple, since you will be required to withdraw from all WLs when you select CTE at any school.

This possibility is why I have been pleading for the past few years for the adcoms to lobby AAMC to move the earliest CTE date to 5/31, in order to allow most WL movement to occur at most schools. So far, no one in power has shown any interest in making any changes. I guess that's because relatively few people are impacted (most CTE dates don't occur until June or July), and the current system works well for the schools, which is all they really care about at the end of the day.
 
apismnfla1003 said:
Did you attach all thank you's to your multiple interviewers as PDFs in the same email? It feels a bit strange doing this, since they're all similar and the adcom might see them.
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I apologize for not answering! But I just typed the letters and saved as a word document. And then emailed the attachments and asked that they be directed to my interviewers. I am 90% sure that’s actually what I was told to do by someone on interview day (like a faculty member).
 
motivationoverload987 said:
I got accepted to Temple and now plan to discontinue my master's program at another institution to save money before medical school. I have a BS and prior MS degree already. Can anyone comment on whether this would jeopardize my acceptance?
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I think this would depend on whether your acceptance was contingent on satisfactory completion of current coursework. This would definitely apply to a bachelors degree. I don't think it would apply to a masters, but why screw around with something as important as this by soliciting advice here? You already have the acceptance, so I think you should reach out to Temple and ask them directly. Absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by potentially avoiding surprises down the road.
 
KnightDoc said:
I think this would depend on whether your acceptance was contingent on satisfactory completion of current coursework. This would definitely apply to a bachelors degree. I don't think it would apply to a masters, but why screw around with something as important as this by soliciting advice here? You already have the acceptance, so I think you should reach out to Temple and ask them directly. Absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by potentially avoiding surprises down the road.
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Thank you for your response!
 
Still haven't heard back from Temple. App was completed 8/15. Is it basically a R at this point?
 
For those who have been accepted - do you know what the $100 tuition deposit is about? Do we need to pay now or is this only if we are certain that we are attending?
 
Froggmanns said:
For those who have been accepted - do you know what the $100 tuition deposit is about? Do we need to pay now or is this only if we are certain that we are attending?
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It’s basically just to hold your seat. I think it has to be deposited within two weeks from your acceptance notice but just double check that so you can be sure. Either way it’s refundable prior to April 30th if you decide not to enroll at LKSOM. If you end up attending, that $100 is applied to your tuition as a student.
 
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TraderJoesAddict said:
It’s basically just to hold your seat. I think it has to be deposited within two weeks from your acceptance notice but just double check that so you can be sure. Either way it’s refundable prior to April 30th if you decide not to enroll at LKSOM. If you end up attending, that $100 is applied to your tuition as a student.
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Why do these deposits even exist? I would understand if it was non-refundable, you increase the odds that people who have very little interest will decline. But if its refundable, you're basically just seeing who has an extra $100 on them at any given time.
 
sadwinter said:
Why do these deposits even exist? I would understand if it was non-refundable, you increase the odds that people who have very little interest will decline. But if its refundable, you're basically just seeing who has an extra $100 on them at any given time.
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deposits exist so the wealthy can hold multiple seats at once and the less fortunate applicants cant 🥴😴😟
 
sadwinter said:
Why do these deposits even exist? I would understand if it was non-refundable, you increase the odds that people who have very little interest will decline. But if its refundable, you're basically just seeing who has an extra $100 on them at any given time.
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I can only speculate, but I imagine it’s similar to undergrad enrollment deposits. They generally secure your seat for the incoming class which allows the university to get a general idea of who and how many people are “committing” to their institution. I believe they also provide access to certain accepted students resources and allow you to start putting things together prior to starting classes (orientation, financial aid, housing, immunizations, background checks, etc.) It’s frustrating that the deposit basically imposes another financial barrier for students, but I remember in undergrad my school allowed me to defer that deposit and they billed me when first semester of tuition was due (i also remember most undergrad depositions were non-refundable) In this case I assume you would need to contact the admission office directly to see if that is something they can hopefully accommodate.
 
TraderJoesAddict said:
I can only speculate, but I imagine it’s similar to undergrad enrollment deposits. They generally secure your seat for the incoming class which allows the university to get a general idea of who and how many people are “committing” to their institution. I believe they also provide access to certain accepted students resources and allow you to start putting things together prior to starting classes (orientation, financial aid, housing, immunizations, background checks, etc.) It’s frustrating that the deposit basically imposes another financial barrier for students, but I remember in undergrad my school allowed me to defer that deposit and they billed me when first semester of tuition was due (i also remember most undergrad depositions were non-refundable) In this case I assume you would need to contact the admission office directly to see if that is something they can hopefully accommodate.
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Most undergrad enrollment deposits aren't refundable though, while most med school ones are. I totally understand its purpose if its for both the price of giving you a university email, setting up all your portals, etc. And also for showing you have at least some level of serious interest in a school. However, making it refundable basically just asks "do you have a hundred you can spare right now, you can pick it back up whenever". It can't be used to cover costs for those that weren't serious, nor can it really be used as a screening tool for those who are serious because unless you are in the bottom 10% of the applicant pool by wealth (probably 5% honestly), you can afford a fully refundable fee. Tbh, the school probably spends a few dollars just processing credit card fees both ways, so its a net loss for them if anything.
 
sadwinter said:
Most undergrad enrollment deposits aren't refundable though, while most med school ones are. I totally understand its purpose if its for both the price of giving you a university email, setting up all your portals, etc. And also for showing you have at least some level of serious interest in a school. However, making it refundable basically just asks "do you have a hundred you can spare right now, you can pick it back up whenever". It can't be used to cover costs for those that weren't serious, nor can it really be used as a screening tool for those who are serious because unless you are in the bottom 10% of the applicant pool by wealth (probably 5% honestly), you can afford a fully refundable fee. Tbh, the school probably spends a few dollars just processing credit card fees both ways, so its a net loss for them if anything.
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I honestly couldn’t agree more. Even with schools having virtual interviews, this whole process still puts up a lot of financial barriers for students pursuing medicine. There are programs that recognize this and I think there’s nothing to lose by asking an admissions office if the deposit can be deferred or waived. Again, I’m only speculating since this information isn’t really posted anywhere.
 
TraderJoesAddict said:
I honestly couldn’t agree more. Even with schools having virtual interviews, this whole process still puts up a lot of financial barriers for students pursuing medicine. There are programs that recognize this and I think there’s nothing to lose by asking an admissions office if the deposit can be deferred or waived. Again, I’m only speculating since this information isn’t really posted anywhere.
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Ehh. FAP really does go a long way to eliminating financial barriers, at least once people get to the point of applying. I'd actually be pretty surprised if they didn't also make an accommodation on deposits for people receiving FAP, if they asked, and if the $100 was really an issue. I'm sure they wouldn't be willing to lose a low SES accepted candidate over a fully refundable $100 deposit.

Beyond that, you guys should realize this is a VERY niche issue. Over 60% of applicants will end up wishing their biggest problem was coming up with a refundable deposit, regardless of their financial circumstances. Half of the remaining 36% will only have to do it once, and they won't be receiving a refund (i.e., they will only have one acceptance).

So, before even getting into affordability, it really is only a subset of a subset of the applicant pool that have to worry about multiple, refundable deposits, each of which is less than the cost of a single application (primary + secondary). When you think about it like that, it really is much ado about nothing. To the extent it forces a very few people with more than a few As to start making decisions sooner rather than later, that's not a terrible thing, either for the schools or for people waiting to hear from schools.
 
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charli-md-amelio said:
It’s interesting that you think you’re qualified to speak on behalf of the entire community of low-income applicants
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I mean, he does make an accurate point that only a very very small slice of the applicant pool is negatively impacted by relatively small (compared to other application fees) refundable deposits. It still doesn't justify those fees existing in the first place, and I wouldn't exactly call it "much ado about nothing" since there do exist people impacted, and those who are impacted i would guess are disproportionaly already the most marginalized applicants.

At any rate, I personally see schools with no or very small deposits in a favorable light. Shoutout to OSU ($20) and UVA (free).
 
charli-md-amelio said:
It’s interesting that you think you’re qualified to speak on behalf of the entire community of low-income applicants
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Not trying to do that at all. I was just trying to point out the obvious -- that once someone qualified for FAP got to the point of applying, eliminating all of the costs directly associated with applying, other than $130 for the MCAT and $42 for every application above 20, goes a long way toward eliminating the financial barriers associated with applying.

Of course this has nothing to do with getting to the point of applying, and was not meant to. Similarly, having to lay out multiple $100 refundable deposits for up to 6 months also has nothing to do with most applicants, regardless of their SES. To the extent it inconveniences the fortunate few with 5+ As, and forces some of them to drop a few As earlier than they would have otherwise, that is probably by design, and works to the benefit of everyone, other than those who want to hold more As than they can possibly use right up until the bitter end of the cycle.
 
sadwinter said:
I mean, he does make an accurate point that only a very very small slice of the applicant pool is negatively impacted by relatively small (compared to other application fees) refundable deposits. It still doesn't justify those fees existing in the first place, and I wouldn't exactly call it "much ado about nothing" since there do exist people impacted, and those who are impacted i would guess are disproportionaly already the most marginalized applicants.

At any rate, I personally see schools with no or very small deposits in a favorable light. Shoutout to OSU ($20) and UVA (free).
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The number of people impacted who do not qualify for some sort of relief is likely very tiny. I agree it is pointless, other than to the extent it imposes a cost on people wanting to tie up 10+ seats indefinitely. And, I'd bet that's the whole point. And sure, at that point, like in just about everything else in life, rich people have an advantage.

Given the fact that a significant majority of applicants are not going to have this issue (approximately 82%), I'm not sure it's worth arguing over how many of the remaining 18% are going to be disproportionately from the most marginalized applicants, and how big a burden a few hundred fully refundable dollars left on deposit for a few months will be in order to keep a few options open until the end of April. Again, this all assumes relief is not available for those with need. I highly doubt that is the case, given how much emphasis schools place on recruiting qualified low SES candidates.
 
KnightDoc said:
The number of people impacted who do not qualify for some sort of relief is likely very tiny. I agree it is pointless, other than to the extent it imposes a cost on people wanting to tie up 10+ seats indefinitely. And, I'd bet that's the whole point. And sure, at that point, like in just about everything else in life, rich people have an advantage.

Given the fact that a significant majority of applicants are not going to have this issue (approximately 82%), I'm not sure it's worth arguing over how many of the remaining 18% are going to be disproportionately from the most marginalized applicants, and how big a burden a few hundred fully refundable dollars left on deposit for a few months will be in order to keep a few options open until the end of April. Again, this all assumes relief is not available for those with need. I highly doubt that is the case, given how much emphasis schools place on recruiting qualified low SES candidates.
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Yea, this is definitely a much bigger issue for DO schools than MD, where deposits are around $1500 and nonrefundable. At any rate, this has sidetracked from Temple quite a bit lol, apologies everyone
 
syogeswa97 said:
II; Invited to Interview Last Week. Lizzie M 73.70, Complete August 2

Anyone have experience with the Temple Interview? What was this group interview with the community member from the North Philadelphia Community like?
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Congrats on your interview invite!

The group interview with the North Philadelphia community member was very traditional/conversational. I feel like they tried to gauge our awareness of the community’s current needs, the importance of cultural competency and what it means to you, and our desire to serve in the Philly community (not sure if everyone’s experience was like this). The group I interviewed with also had some time to ask questions about the Philly community and their perspective of Temple LKSOM. Overall really laid back and low stress (like the rest of the interview day) Best of luck to you!
 
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arrozconleche said:
Interview invite at like 2am! I was not expecting this!! Does anyone know if more dates open up? There’s only three dates one after the other in December that I can’t make 🙁

Edit: Complete August 1st, LM70
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Congrats on your interview! I was originally given zero dates when I originally tried to sign up for my interview for the St. Luke's campus, and after contacting the admissions team they added one date to the availability calendar that I was able to take. If you're unable to make the dates that are listed I would reach out to them and let them know - I'm sure they will be able to help!
 
syogeswa97 said:
II; Invited to Interview Last Week. Lizzie M 73.70, Complete August 2

Anyone have experience with the Temple Interview? What was this group interview with the community member from the North Philadelphia Community like?
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It was terrible. My community interview literally began by asking me "why would we take you over the other two people in this room". Turns out that wasn't even the question she was assigned to ask. Plus, they ask multiple of you the same questions and are supposed to randomize who they ask first each time, but for some of my friends the interviewer didn't, and whoever was asked first was at an unfair disadvantage as the other two had a chance to plan their response more carefully.
 
sadwinter said:
It was terrible. My community interview literally began by asking me "why would we take you over the other two people in this room". Turns out that wasn't even the question she was assigned to ask. Plus, they ask multiple of you the same questions and are supposed to randomize who they ask first each time, but for some of my friends the interviewer didn't, and whoever was asked first was at an unfair disadvantage as the other two had a chance to plan their response more carefully.
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Whoa; Thanks for letting me know this. Yikes.
 
TraderJoesAddict said:
Congrats on your interview invite!

The group interview with the North Philadelphia community member was very traditional/conversational. I feel like they tried to gauge our awareness of the community’s current needs, the importance of cultural competency and what it means to you, and our desire to serve in the Philly community (not sure if everyone’s experience was like this). The group I interviewed with also had some time to ask questions about the Philly community and their perspective of Temple LKSOM. Overall really laid back and low stress (like the rest of the interview day) Best of luck to you!
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Thanks for your insight! Appreciate it
 
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