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no news to anyone today?
From looking through the past 2 years threads, it seems that the next 2 Fridays are our last hope to be accepted or waitlisted. For the past 2 years there has seemingly been just 1 post-II R wave right before the May 1st deadline in that last week.... praying for good news for all of us.
Have they sent As out after the WL wave in the past?
 
I interviewed for the LEAD program and it's most likely full according to people who have attended the 2nd look day. I am still waiting to hear back but not expecting an acceptance or even a waitlist for LEAD. Is there a world in which I can still be hopeful about regular MD program?
 
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Not holding my breath for more acceptances at this point 🙁 already starting looking for premed postbacc to strengthen my application for next cycle
 
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Any current students willing to share how AOA/Internal Ranking/MSPE Adjectives have affected their med school experience? MSAR says that "students are not ranked, but a committee meets to review overall performance." Not sure exactly what this means and am making a decision between schools.
 
Anyone else who withdrew yesterday not here anything back? This is the only school that wasn't updated on the CYMS portal after my withdrawal. Wondering if it was only me
 
Not a student (yet) but from my conversations with current students, it only affects you if you want it to. Also, internal rankings are used my faculty more to keep a pulse on how students are doing. Students mentioned how faculty reached out to them to offer help before they even requested it just based on how they were doing in class. Faculty also mentioned they use rankings internally just to have a sense how the overall class is doing, especially in response to curriculum changes. So it’s more of a metric on their end that doesn’t really affect you that much. Also, with everything going P/F, it’s harder to distinguish yourself on residency apps, so having these metrics can be beneficial for you during clerkships if you want to go into a competitive field, especially so you don’t have to solely rely on your letters/research. You can also choose to not worry about it at all and just do your best.
From someone who has been there, this is not what people want to hear.
 
Any current students willing to share how AOA/Internal Ranking/MSPE Adjectives have affected their med school experience? MSAR says that "students are not ranked, but a committee meets to review overall performance." Not sure exactly what this means and am making a decision between schools.
Every single school ranks students. Whether or not rankings are released to residency programs is at the school's discretion. Occasionally, rankings are made public.
 
Not a student (yet) but from my conversations with current students, it only affects you if you want it to. Also, internal rankings are used my faculty more to keep a pulse on how students are doing. Students mentioned how faculty reached out to them to offer help before they even requested it just based on how they were doing in class. Faculty also mentioned they use rankings internally just to have a sense how the overall class is doing, especially in response to curriculum changes. So it’s more of a metric on their end that doesn’t really affect you that much. Also, with everything going P/F, it’s harder to distinguish yourself on residency apps, so having these metrics can be beneficial for you during clerkships if you want to go into a competitive field, especially so you don’t have to solely rely on your letters/research. You can also choose to not worry about it at all and just do your best.
A student's rank determines which adjective is used to describe them in their MSPE. This allows residency programs to know where a student falls in their school's ranking, which they will most likely use to inform their evaluation of you as an applicant and decision.
 
Is this negative?
A school's use of adjectives probably fosters a more competitive and less chill environment. Students grind to be in the top 10% of their class and it isn't really a "true" P/F system if the school is using this code to communicate class ranks with residency programs. Some people may view this as a negative.
 
I think maybe you’re misinterpreting my post or misread it. It was nothing negative, since the school themselves framed it that way. I was trying to say how rankings are not an issue at this school.
Don't want to go back and forth with you at all, but this "P = MD" stuff is not why people come to SDN for advice. Sometimes, when we've wracked our brains and there's no other solution, "just try not to worry about it" IS the answer. But most of the time (and for most of the personalities here), it isn't.
 
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Don't want to go back and forth with you at all, but this "P = MD" stuff is not why people come to SDN for advice. Sometimes, when we've wracked our brains and there's no other solution, "just try not to worry about it" IS the answer. But most of the time (and for most of the personalities here), it isn't.
It’s not what people come to SDN for, but it is sound advice and advice passed along by students and physicians.
 
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It’s not what people come to SDN for, but it is sound advice and advice passed along by students and physicians.
I don't think it's entirely good advice to not care about the use of internal rankings and adjectives.

Some people may use it to inform their decision on which school to go to.
 
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Also, it is not always rankings i.e. Jimmy, Sally, James, Sarah etc. Usually students are ranked in terms of quartiles.
 
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Anyone think there’s good news for WL this Friday or since A’s r still in theory coming out WL won’t hear till May
Do people get let off the WL if they haven't given primary decisions to everyone who interviewed yet? Doesn't make sense to me... but then again, not much of this process does
 
Haven’t heard anything since my interview in November. It’s strange given that people who interviewed in March have gotten A’s and WL’s. Am I at a higher consideration status than WL, or lower? Feels like they have already rejected me but are just holding me in limbo :/