Interesting point. How do you feel about the content of the analysis she did, if you put aside the forgetting the game structure for a moment?
@WonderingStudent, can you explain your thought process from the top comment to the bottom one? You went from saying the nympho was an understandable discard to questioning why she wouldn't have used it for aff, but her discard and claimed aff role are both the same aff anyway, so why did you ask this?
The logic here makes sense to me, and doesn't feel stretchy. Zenge has a quote after this (the one I lost) where he talks specifically about pleasy, and how her mafia strongman discard makes it seem like she's more likely to be village, knowing her preferences. I agree with that assessment, but I also agree with Cray's point below - that scum could have been her only options.
Dubz's contribution at the end here makes sense to me too - it is difficult to tease out what people might have done since we were picking fragments of each role, not the entire role.
This pinged me. It's a valid point to make, but at the same time, it feels like preemptively trying to prevent building a village bloc, and I don't like that feeling at all.
I guess this was the post that pinged me most for wondering.
Yeah, I mean, I understand it the point she's making. I watched it play out in Flush's last game, where Zenge was mafia and killed a wolf. It just felt a little dismissive of building a bloc when I reread the thread. By itself, it wouldn't have pinged me, but in combination with other posts she'd made, it didn't feel great.
Cubs can you restate what you’re saying here? I don’t get your point
To be clear I wasn’t trying to defend you as much as I was trying to understand where the salt was coming from, since you were all villagers equally crushed by the Samac!Attak™️.
Coops’s entrance felt kind of forced-casual to me, looks like could be trying to cover nerves.
This shade was weird imo
1) The editing and then explanation for the editing also looks like wolfy start-of-game nerves 2) I don’t feel cubs and coop are in the same faction, too much interaction straight out the gate
Like shorty said, the fishing is worrying me
Do not like. Why have you decided who you’re yeeting D2 with so few posts? Yes, I know this is a joke, but it feels like there’s some level of sincerity to it, plus flippancy about deciding who to vote.
This reasoning is just a stretch imo. I know Stagg didn’t understand 100% how roles were chosen, but he did understand that you choose to combine the role from one card with the affiliation from another, so he shouldn’t think this discard is that weird (since there are indeed a lot of ways someone could choose a vanilla town role). Maybe fishing for cray to justify her choice in a way that would hint at role.
How do you feel about Wondering and Coops?
I mean, I’ve gone back and forth about it. Not Chaos specifically, I am getting village vibes from him.
I’d like to know that too. I think the Cubs vote is an interesting choice.
Did you mean “if she willing chose to be scum”?
How do YOU feel about them?
Oh damn, that’s a good point (not that I think Chaos did this, just in general). Scum can claim the rolecard they took ability from as the card they took affiliation from with very few repercussions (there’s few situations where as scum you want to sincerely reveal ability, since you don’t want to limit yourself to town-looking uses of that ability), with no risk that someone else rolled that card.
I’ve already said my thoughts on wondering.
Oh whoops, yeah I meant I would be shocked if she DIDNT choose a village role. Fixing that now
Why Cubs? Cubs is already on the board.
something's bothering me about chaos's tone and im not super sure what it is. I remember last time i played w them being pinged by their town and i think they ended up town so i think it's a symptom of a different website. but "you have my sheep" and then basically paraphrasing what shorty had said not 45 minutes earlier rubbed me wrong
Making note that I really like this post from Vis. In the past she’s been known to make “wall posts” when she’s wolfing to look like she’s wolf hunting, but this analysis seems pretty solid.
I get what you’re saying, but this also just sounds like chaos’ “normal” tone to me? I remember him sounding like this in previous games. It did ping me a bit early on, but now I have kind of gotten used to it. However, the “you have my sheep” was weird phrasing imo. It’s usually encouraged to not sheep people, and that was an odd thing to say.
yeah it was that phrasing that stuck out to me. it was just a few posts apart so it pinged me
I like your last question but disagree alleys vote felt overexplainy.
Overall have gotten a scum feeling. Vague shade at cray and alley for reasoning that seems completely absent (with cray, just repeating the natural conclusion of what she said in a way that implied it was accusatory. I don’t understand that post) or weak (alley discarded town = 1 less chance at choosing town aff). Then there was that joke about yeeting Stagg next that felt like he was semi-serious about deciding already to vote stagg next, too flippant about using your vote
I don’t think it really changes how many lies they’d have to make about their actions. They already have the problem of lying about their actions because PR scum use PRs scummily so if they come into a situation where they have to claim an ability it’s always gonna be tough. I don’t see how doing this would make them more likely to have to claim an ability later.
I would say kinda NAI for her, but agree on principle that kind of play rankles me for feeling scummy.
idk if it makes it more likely but just IF they do later, they have to be more careful about what they say. bc with the discard and affil list, we have a lot of what isn't in the game, which narrows the pool of what they can claim. and what they can claim is also a lot more likely to overlap w someone's actual role then
I had a ton of back and forth with the mods and think that by the end I did understand.Did you understand how you were choosing your role? (Legit question)
Oh, well that’s not what I thought was going on. I thought we had to pick one role to publicly discard, Got to pick any one the 3 roles for affiliation, and then had to just pick from one of the two remaining abilities. Idk why I thought this, but I think I confused the mods with my choices as much as I was confused about how to pick my role
Well to be fair, when he says don't tell us your role, only affiliation, it still makes sense with defining role = aff + ability. He's saying don't give us the whole thing, both pieces. He's effectively saying don't reveal your ability which would give away your role.
