CHOOSE YOUR OWWN III - Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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literally what is the point of that role? Just being "named" ??? Because it sounds exactly like vanilla villager in terms of ability.

Yes basically the benefit is that it's named and there's only one in the game

 

[alissa14]

hmmm suddenly I am not so sure I like how Dubz keeps explaining that she used retired werewolf hunter for her affiliation because it is the only one on the list. Are we sure it is outside of her wolf meta to risk that kind of claim for village cred and hope nobody else randed that specific role? the WIFOM continues...

 

[Viscernable]

So are you a night vig?

Wtaf

 

[WildZoo]

Chaos and disarray among village

For a day?
Lumi gets voted out
They flip with goo role
Wonder gets voted out
Chaos ended

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
Stagg () -
mkg () -
O2 () -
genny () -
True () -
dubz (1) - Lumi
Chaos (4) - Lawpy, shorty, mkg, Zenge
Lumi (5) - True, Wonder, Chaos, alissa, dubz
mkg () -

10/16
yeet close in ~25.5 hours

 

[alissa14]

hmmm suddenly I am not so sure I like how Dubz keeps explaining that she used retired werewolf hunter for her affiliation because it is the only one on the list. Are we sure it is outside of her wolf meta to risk that kind of claim for village cred and hope nobody else randed that specific role? the WIFOM continues...

maybe it is because I am eeked by the fact that I have Dubz as strong village right now and it is scaring me...

 

[WildZoo]

hmmm suddenly I am not so sure I like how Dubz keeps explaining that she used retired werewolf hunter for her affiliation because it is the only one on the list. Are we sure it is outside of her wolf meta to risk that kind of claim for village cred and hope nobody else randed that specific role? the WIFOM continues...

Is anything outside of my wolf meta?

 

[WildZoo]

maybe it is because I am eeked by the fact that I have Dubz as strong village right now and it is scaring me...

Maybe it would help if you explain the read, because I'm not sure why you would have a strong one right now either

 

[alleycat03]

I've actually come to a second, better realization:

I'm dumb, and had my logic backwards. People who hate being scum should primarily get credit if their discarded role is village, because that proves they had village as an option.

Tbh I would only apply that in cases where we knew they had a village option. PLUS even in that case their village options might have been kinda ****ty depending on the ability options they had

So really for this to mean anything you have to know they 1) hate being scum 2) had a choice and 3) hate being scum so much that they would choose a ****ty village role over it

It's a lot of assumptions to make

Yet again Dubz already outlined pretty much everything I was going to say. Even though I HATE being scum, I picked a semi-crappy scum role over crappy village role in the last CYO. So maybe people should get a tiny bit of credit for discarding village roles, especially if they do not typically enjoy being scum, but there's too many assumptions and I don't think basing your read on someone based solely on their discard is a good idea.

 

[alissa14]

Is anything outside of my wolf meta?

WIFOM!!!!! I could totally see Dubz as picking wolf as her affiliation and some other role but being in a pack by herself and using the role of retired werewolf hunter as her claimed affiliation. Banking on that nobody got randed the role, it is a cheeky choice as a wolf, and if she's in a pack by herself, she doesn't risk letting down a pack, and buys herself village cred. All very within Dubz meta. Very scary. Much WIFOM

 

[alissa14]

Maybe it would help if you explain the read, because I'm not sure why you would have a strong one right now either

it is based on the choice of roles alone which in hindsight should not be my only reasoning for reads but it is pretty much the best I've got so far. I also tend to have a hard time reading you. You always strike me as village but I've been burned by this before so I usually keep you in neutral for the most part

 

[Truenamer]

Anyone else want to claim black goo since that seems to be the chef’s special today?

You know how I said I got randed village lover twice? Well, actually,

 

[Viscernable]

It's exceedingly relevant because of bayesian inference

God dammit. My weakness. Stats probably could actually tempt me into revealing, except I’m assuming whatever you’re doing requires all of us revealing and I just 100% cannot see everyone doing that.

 

[WildZoo]

WIFOM!!!!! I could totally see Dubz as picking wolf as her affiliation and some other role but being in a pack by herself and using the role of retired werewolf hunter as her claimed affiliation. Banking on that nobody got randed the role, it is a cheeky choice as a wolf, and if she's in a pack by herself, she doesn't risk letting down a pack, and buys herself village cred. All very within Dubz meta. Very scary. Much WIFOM

I'd consider that fancy wolf play that I don't really engage in unless I have to. Much more likely that I actually had the retired wolf hunter card and used it for ability and a scum card for aff if I really wanted to scum that badly, although seems like a scum mason would have been the more fun option.

 

[alleycat03]

What the hell, I don't check this site daily and check after a holiday weekend to see that I got randed a town black goo

Why are negative utility roles even in this setup. Why wasn't I messaged on discord or something to be told that the game started

Wait, are you shorty's friend from MU? Also this game just got a lot more interesting if you're telling the truth

So after pulling each of True's opening posts from the games he's played... I still have wolfy tingles from his joke about Lawpy identifying the whole pack. There's a "how do you do, fellow kids?" vibe. However, I'm also getting blue from the sad reacts he's giving me and if he's wolfing it SUCKS to be pinned this early in the game so I'm going to look elsewhere as well now.

Sorry, I'm obligated by law to post this gif every time that is mentioned because I find it hilarious

Spoiler: hehe

Engaged. Because iirc a small Flushy made that as a 3P role a while ago.

Even though I think the goo alignment is dumb, it clearly says in the game setup that it is town-aligned and NOT 3P.

@WonderingStudent
@genny
@Truenamer
@WildZoo
@Zenge142
@Viscernable
@Chaostrodon
@mkg323

It is optimal play for all of these people to full claim their roles today on day 1

If they refuse or don't cooperate, then I guarantee they are scum

Wait, why? Why did you pick those people specifically?

No

welp, you need to

Agreed. That and tungsten dioxide from WO2. We need a periodic table WW so bad pls

I would play that game SO FAST! I want to be bismuth please

If cards can't be reused and they're claiming black goo then they're just outed

Cards cannot be reused

This guy is literally howling too

Why??? btw, Dubz is a lady. A badass DR. lady actually

Why would you choose to be Judas lol

I am wondering the same thing, I wouldn't touch judas with a 10 foot pole

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Yeet Lawpy

 

[Lawpy]

Yeet Lawpy

What pls

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wait, why? Why did you pick those people specifically?

Lumi was highlighting those who have discarded village roles.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

What pls

Because I'm not sure if your confusion over what's happening with Wonder is genuine or you're trying to get someone misyoten.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

And because my obvious vote would be for Lumi but I'd like to put pressure elsewhere.

 

[Lawpy]

Because I'm not sure if your confusion over what's happening with Wonder is genuine or you're trying to get someone misyoten.

Because i’m skeptical that people are piling onto the goo claim?

 

[Lawpy]

And because my obvious vote would be for Lumi but I'd like to put pressure elsewhere.

What pressure pls. I’m still active and pretty transparent with my questions and reasons.

 

[Viscernable]

If someone discards town and they got scum, scum, town

Then they're scum
If someone discards town and they got scum, town, town

Then they are either scum or they used the scum role with town alignment

But then why did they use the scum role, have you seen the set of scum roles? Most of them suck. It's most likely that they kept the scum card for its alignment and paired it with a strong town role.

The probability of triple town is only 18%

But there are way more than just 18% of the list with town discards. Meaning we have a ton of scum in those people that discarded town

Yeah I feel this, but
a) obviously, there’s a big cost to having a mass role reveal D1. We need to weigh how much benefit we get from it, and I feel it won’t be a ton since:
b) last we played there was some suspicion on people discarding scum roles as maybe they had randed 3 scum cards, so I think this game people getting scum/town/town options wanted to discard a town card and choose ability from scum card if possible
c) I don’t really agree that the town card abilities are on average much better than the scum card ones
d) what are you going to do with the info that will be so game-breakingly useful for scum-hunting? It’s basically just one more chance for someone to self-incriminate by claiming an impossible card or role, but are you going to yeet everyone who claims a non-disprovable role?

 

[WildZoo]

Imagine if both Chaos and Lumi had lied about the goo and neither of them actually were it 🤣

I don't think that's the most likely scenario here, but it would be funny.

This is what I'm privately cracking up about 😆
What are the odds of two people fakeclaiming the same role and using it to out each other? Unbelievable

Prophetic

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Because i’m skeptical that people are piling onto the goo claim?

Because Wonder being the wolf/scum in this scenario seems like the least likely option to me so I don't get why you're latching onto that idea.

 

[alleycat03]

I rather like the role , to be quite honest . I thought I would get away with a fakeclaim like that coz no one is gonna pick black goo coz people wouldnt know it was a town role anyway

I hadnt counted on my incredible bad luck

Sorry Chaos, hopefully your luck is better in a future game

@supershorty

WildZoo is a wolf, guaranteed

Their reaction to me is howling, please bury them for me because I won't have much time for this game

Don't sign up for a game if you can't even explain why you're making the weird decisions you are and using "limited time" as your reason for being vague. I get people are busy but we are asking for the bare minimum and you're refusing to even give us a crumb of an explanation.

And chaos should absolutely just be vigged, if I were day vig I'd shoot wild zoo and then I'd shoot chaos

what kind of wild games are you playing with people having multiple day vig shots? In this setup there's only 2 possible ONE-SHOT day vigs, so I don't think that's even possible.

Engaged 🤔

Lawpy, how many people are you proposing to?

I will not explain anything this game I'm going to be mostly playing on mobile where typing long posts is annoying

You can either listen to me and win, or you can ignore me and lose, your choice.

And yes, I'm in a bad mood because I was randed an atrociously bad role

I'm sorry you got a bad role RNGed to you, but it hopefully caught us a scum, so maybe that can alleviate some of your disappointment. Regardless, Dubz (and pretty much everyone else here) is not going to fully role reveal if you don't even attempt to explain your intent. That's ridiculous and it can harm village.

 

[Lawpy]

Because Wonder being the wolf/scum in this scenario seems like the least likely option to me so I don't get why you're latching onto that idea.

I’m not latching onto anything. I just don’t readily buy the goo claim from that single Wondy post. At least Lumi was relatively active and gave additional thoughts in addition to their goo claim that I could understand and justify the chaos vote.

And I even explicitly said in response to Zenges’s post that I’m thinking about the situation at the moment, so I’m not sure why I’m getting criticized for being skeptical when I’m not even voting for Wondy.

 

[Viscernable]

So you had a scum option?

That sure sounded like a slip

 

[Viscernable]

Wait no we’re talking about ability pick, not alignment pick

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I’m not latching onto anything. I just don’t readily buy the goo claim from that single Wondy post. At least Lumi was relatively active and gave additional thoughts in addition to their goo claim that I could understand and justify the chaos vote.

And I even explicitly said in response to Zenges’s post that I’m thinking about the situation at the moment, so I’m not sure why I’m getting criticized for being skeptical when I’m not even voting for Wondy.

I'm not criticizing you, and this is pretty reactive given I am a single person.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wait no we’re talking about ability pick, not alignment pick

The reverse. Things have gotten muddled but it was supposed to be alignment so as to not out PRs.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I have like 70 notifications and they're all from alley.

 

[Viscernable]

As someone who feels like I know how to read Dubz, and thinking I need more time to get a read, this feels like a stronger defense than I would expect from someone who doesn't know Dubz isn't scum.

Oh yeah that second post bothered me, too. “Scum Dubz is good so we need really really good evidence to vote her” just seriously doesn’t track logic-wise

 

[Lawpy]

I'm not criticizing you, and this is pretty reactive given I am a single person.

How is it being reactive when I’m explaining my reasons why I’m skeptical to Wondy’s claim which was the reason for your vote on me?

 

[WildZoo]

How is it being reactive when I’m explaining my reasons why I’m skeptical to Wondy’s claim which was the reason for your vote on me?

Not voting you for it but I'm still not following why wonder's claim is more sketchy to you than Lumi's, when Lumi showed know sign of being aware that chaos had already already claimed the goo at the point that they posted about it.

 

[WildZoo]

Anybody know if there's a possible role that benefits from being voted out?

 

[WildZoo]

Imagine if Lumi comes back like "Jk I'm actually Judas"

 

[Lawpy]

Not voting you for it but I'm still not following why wonder's claim is more sketchy to you than Lumi's, when Lumi showed know sign of being aware that chaos had already already claimed the goo at the point that they posted about it.

Because I don’t rely on just a single post containing the claim alone when making decisions, and Lumi’s initial claim post in addition to their followup discussions at least gave some substance to work with that made me think their claim was genuine. A singular Wondy post that focused mostly on chaos and Lumi to make an aha! moment that both were fakeclaiming just didn’t sit right with me. That said, I am taking into account how that’d be an unusual step to do as scum!wondy because that’s just unnecessary sketch diverted to herself, which is why I’m still thinking about it and not voting her. I also recognized my earlier bias when I said that I’d rather not yeet Lumi who’s new to SDN on D1.

 

[Viscernable]

I agree that chaos isn’t a bad vote but did @mkg323 say what role she used for her ability? I am interested to see because discarding village doctor is an interesting choice. I am also leaning more strongly village anyone that claimed a role used for affiliation early because it would be more risky to lie early on and claim a role someone else has.

Number of the cards in the game is more important than order claimed in terms of ballsiness for fakeclaims

 

[Truenamer]

That sure sounded like a slip

Please catch up with the thread before making accusations like this? I have been very open about the three roles I got randed— Village Lover x2, and a scum role I took the PR from.

 

[alleycat03]

Guys pls I worked hard* to get Lumi to come play with us and you're going to scare them away with these NSFW twists.

* this is a relative statement

So I’ve seen village PSV defend people who’s affiliation she doesn’t know, to her detriment. But that’s typically people from her noob class.

Defending Dubz feels a little different though. The “are you a night vig” question was concerning too.

Not sure I’m ready to scum read PSV but I wanted to note these.

Starting to get a tiny bit paranoid about Z, which is *checks watch* right on schedule for when I usually get freaked out by him

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Starting to get a tiny bit paranoid about Z, which is *checks watch* right on schedule for when I usually get freaked out by him

Middle of D1?

 

[Zenge142]

I’m assuming it’s the alpha that is unseerable since I think MU usually uses that

No this isn't accurate. Different affiliations have different meanings for Alpha, from looking through the list.

Spoiler

Alpha Goon (105)​

You are an Alpha Goon.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want eliminated.
• Factional Kill: The Mafia may kill one player per Night.
• Factional Communication: If there are other Mafia-aligned players, there will be a Mafia QT that can be used pre-game and during the Night.

Win Condition

• You win when all players without a Mafia wincon are wiped out and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).

Alpha Werewolf (112)​

You are a Alpha Werewolf.

Abilities

• During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want eliminated.
• Factional Kill: The Werewolves may kill one player per Night.
• Factional Communication: If there are other Werewolf-aligned players, there will be a Werewolf QT that can be used pre-game and during the Night.
• Alpha: You will investigate as "Not Guilty" if investigated by a Seer.

Win Condition

• You win when all players without a Werewolf wincon are wiped out and at least one Werewolf-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).

 

[Truenamer]

Starting to get a tiny bit paranoid about Z, which is *checks watch* right on schedule for when I usually get freaked out by him

Zenge has been pretty absent...

Which seems perfectly normal for both his village and scum metas. He is very difficult to get a good read on on D1.

 

[WildZoo]

Zenge has been pretty absent...

Which seems perfectly normal for both his village and scum metas. He is very difficult to get a good read on on D1.

Funny that you said this right after he emerged from lurking

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Zenge has been pretty absent...

Not absent. Lurking.
He's here, in the shadows, peeling his carrots and flinching at microwaved eggs. He may be quiet, but absent he ain't.

 

[Lawpy]

Not absent. Lurking.
He's here, in the shadows, peeling his carrots and flinching at microwaved eggs. He may be quiet, but absent he ain't.

Vegetable!Lawpy is curious 🤔

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If Zenge we're a Dark Souls boss, he would be

 

[WildZoo]

Vegetable!Lawpy is curious 🤔

...I'm gonna exit the thread before I post more innuendos and get thrown in horny jail

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Vegetable!Lawpy is curious 🤔

We had a chat on the Discord a couple days ago about whether or not to peel carrots before consuming. Totally game irrelevant lol