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Even if I knew who the wolves were, I would have tried to keep it about even to keep the game going long enough to make it possible to win for the assassins. If that would have been even possible.
Only kakuru's jailing was allowed and not submitted.
That night SOV didn't allow us to jail or torture anyone (long story. Not totally blaming him. but maybe a little since victory was right there),
Other than that, it was just picking up unusual roles. One of my favorites, was Pet Pony, the assassin. She had a chance to convert players into assassins and form her own army so to speak. She wasn't necessarily good or evil. Luckily or unluckily she never got to live long enough to expand.
Yes she was a godsend.
And her write-up was epic, although it was too hard for the likes of me!
I definitely foresaw an outcome where the assassins take over.Even if I knew who the wolves were, I would have tried to keep it about even to keep the game going long enough to make it possible to win for the assassins. If that would have been even possible.
I could have unseated a ruler making myself ruler instead. This would have united everyone since I could then PM everyone. I could also assassinate a leader (useful if a wolf got a leadership role). My powers could only work for 4 days so I was hesitant to try for a leadership role in the very beginning.What all could you do? It's hard to find everything on the phone..
I was planning on making my own group and winning on our own. Haha
So SOV, what would have happened it I tried to a wolf an assassin?
Well at least I picked up on this early, even if I didn't get the thing about dyachei until it was kinda too late.
I was suspicious of you as soon as you said you had a hunch to lynch me. I just knew that bullsh*t. Why did you guys pick me anyways?haha I should also say I friggen loved the game SOV. Just grumpy that there were inconsistencies in your application of rules (you know this is true and I'm not going to address it further) and even with WTF hitting gold, we would have won on night 6 if certain things had happened.
hahah though the same thing almost happened in my modded game in the lounge. Due to a power imbalance i didnt expect the wolves could have won way too early. But I lucked out in that they attacked a player with a defensive power to kill his attacker. So I can't blame you at all once I'm out of the game. And everything had "reasons" I just think they're lame reasons and you had a vested interest in not letting the game end so early. Just wanted to save my reputation cause everyone was like "oh I was supicious of you".... yea.... after night 6. No duh. But I went 5 straight nights with villagers not only not voting for me, but openly defending me. mwuahahaha. I just threw it all away on a "win now" gamble.
I was suspicious of you as soon as you said you had a hunch to lynch me. I just knew that bullsh*t. Why did you guys pick me anyways?
In case you weren't aware, wolves could only kill villagers who were on the same continent as them.
As a dead player watching it really looked like you guys were really working together.
I liked that, too.SOV, I really like that the teams kept shifting.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. *shrug*If even just the conversion happened, we would have won the game just on that (not accounting for WTF's kill move)
Zeus is the god of lighting, rock and roll, hookers, and blow. They don;t teach you that in middle school, but its true. He'd so be a wolf sympathizer.
I had such an awesome role, but ever really got to do anything with it!
Uh.... We didn't listen because you never offered a compelling argument.Wish I had stayed a little longer. I had akdream pegged for a while but prez and ceo didn't listen.
Why did nyankO not come back as rick santorum the last time I investigated?
Nah, you were definitely on my radar because you were a little too quiet to be a villager Just not as many posts about strategy as I'm used to seeing out of you. You moving to lynch me just solidified it. The only reason I switched my vote from you to kakuru was in an attempt to save my own skin. It would look even worse for me to try to lynch a supposed seer.Because everyone else was going to lynch you that round anyway. Innocent people. I wanted to have a wolf be the first vote though. The wolves may have had a running tally of everyone's suspicion list because we almost all had a villager who trusted us at that point in the game.
Plus thats exactly the round when i put caution to the wind. You wouldnt have been suspicious of me if I didnt vote for you Obvious as that sounds.
Uh.... We didn't listen because you never offered a compelling argument.
what a great game!! I can't wait to read about it all when I get home
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Yes I did. Well I tried. He kept milking information and being really nosy. And considering his role he would have been the perfect conversion (i figured this part was obvious).
Why did nyankO not come back as rick santorum the last time I investigated?
YOu would need a 2nd investigation to get the new role. 1st is just her name, 2nd is her role. Deviously deceptiveWhy did nyankO not come back as rick santorum the last time I investigated?
i'm jealous of katie for getting to shoot rick santorum. how fulfilling.
*shrug* Being nosy ... eh ... you are constantly nosy, too. It doesn't immediately set off my alarm bells.
I never disagreed he'd be a good conversion. The problem was, there were other good conversion targets, too (like soops). And I really did think that whole vampire-and-TW death scene was ... weird. I convinced myself something had to have happened there. Instead, it was just SOV's painkiller-driven mind at work.
Never fixed. LMAO every time DocE "used" it.Was the ID protection ever fixed? I did ask to use it that night.
I never once asked you two who was the seer ( dyachei or nyanko) I didn't care akdream did. Then he asked about the executive roles and what they can do, he even stated that if one of us dies he would pray to get one of the roles. I never asked you guys that. He was being suspiciously nosy, but then you couldn't see the pms. I tried to convey to you guys what he was saying, that is probably why you thought I was being nosy because of the questions he kept asking me to ask you two.
The Santorum thing actually made me hesitate ... I thought "There's no way SOV would do that to Nyanko."
YOu would need a 2nd investigation to get the new role. 1st is just her name, 2nd is her role. Deviously deceptive
<evil laugh>The Santorum thing actually made me hesitate ... I thought "There's no way SOV would do that to Nyanko."
YOu would need a 2nd investigation to get the new role. 1st is just her name, 2nd is her role. Deviously deceptive
Well, I can't make it easy can i?That's really the only gripe I had- my role made it that even if I knew their name, I had to waste a turn to find out more. Great game though
Yeah. Part of the idea of WTF was to overcome any role's powers.I'd figure as much.
Question SOV: so even though I can escape a kill at night, I can't escape WTF's kill? Bc she's chaos, and no man can escape that shiz? Too bad nutmeg didn't er... do me on a more opportune night
Probably a bit of that. There was one point where you made a comment about feeling out of the loop because Dyachei and I weren't giving you 100% of what we were talking about. That just made me that much more cautious because I thought "DVMD ought to understand why I'd be cautious here."
Well, I can't make it easy can i?
Krist had it even worse, she got the full investigation results but was MUTE until dead.
That's really the only gripe I had- my role made it that even if I knew their name, I had to waste a turn to find out more. Great game though
I did mention that I felt out of the loop, don't remember the 100% part. But since I died and came back I felt like there was a lot that happened that I missed, but I did understand why you guys didn't tell me everything. But dyachei did investigate me again after I was brought back...
LIS- what made you suspect me? Apparently if wtf HADNT chosen me, I would have survived. But just curious, since I thought I was pretty crystal clear after nutmeg vouched for me and I killed Emiloo
I felt the same way. 3 turns to find stuff out was a lot. Also totally didn't piece together that wolves killed by location. Though pretty much everyone else in mt Olympus was a wolfI never knew how confident to be in Dyachei's investigations. Not because of a trust issue, but because of the incomplete nature of her seer ability.
I felt the same way. 3 turns to find stuff out was a lot. Also totally didn't piece together that wolves killed by location. Though pretty much everyone else in mt Olympus was a wolf
You would have made a really good conversion target what with your cavorting around with the only one in the game the villagers were explicitly told to trust.
LIS- what made you suspect me? Apparently if wtf HADNT chosen me, I would have survived. But just curious, since I thought I was pretty crystal clear after nutmeg vouched for me and I killed Emiloo
Eh, a whole bunch of really weak things. First, I trusted other people more (so, not so much suspecting you as trusting others). Second, that whole thing where the vampire (I forget whose role that was) took you up on some rooftop and tortured you and .... it was weird. We had a bunch of PM discussions about whether that was real. It sorta made sense to us that perhaps a vampire role would allow for a deathbed conversion (sinking of fangs!). It just seemed so out there from the narrative perspective that I felt like SOMETHING must have happened. Thinking back on that, I think (DVMD, am I remembering this correctly?) that AKDream might have helped promote that idea, which makes sense.
And, like Nyanko said, you would have made a decent conversion target. And Emiloo was going down one way or another, so you killing her didn't do much in the way of convincing me - I felt like it was just as likely you were doing it to 'clear' yourself as anything.
Anyway, sorry. It was faulty thinking and, mostly, I had a list of more or less equally suspicious people. Nyanko was highest on my list, but she played so well that nobody else would lynch her with me. Looking back, I laughed a bit - I threw a contingent Emiloo lynch really early in the game, and at one point I threw a Nyanko lynch as well (closer to the end) .. but in both cases had zero support because I had no compelling evidence.
Nutmeg's vouching didn't do much for me. Honestly, I did my best to ignore Nutmeg and WTF (no offense to either of you!!!) the entire time because I couldn't really grasp the extent of their roles, capabilities, allegiances, etc. Ask Katie: I told her a number of times that I had no idea how to account for them.
Eh, a whole bunch of really weak things. First, I trusted other people more (so, not so much suspecting you as trusting others). Second, that whole thing where the vampire (I forget whose role that was) took you up on some rooftop and tortured you and .... it was weird. We had a bunch of PM discussions about whether that was real. It sorta made sense to us that perhaps a vampire role would allow for a deathbed conversion (sinking of fangs!). It just seemed so out there from the narrative perspective that I felt like SOMETHING must have happened. Thinking back on that, I think (DVMD, am I remembering this correctly?) that AKDream might have helped promote that idea, which makes sense.
And, like Nyanko said, you would have made a decent conversion target. And Emiloo was going down one way or another, so you killing her didn't do much in the way of convincing me - I felt like it was just as likely you were doing it to 'clear' yourself as anything.
Anyway, sorry. It was faulty thinking and, mostly, I had a list of more or less equally suspicious people. Nyanko was highest on my list, but she played so well that nobody else would lynch her with me. Looking back, I laughed a bit - I threw a contingent Emiloo lynch really early in the game, and at one point I threw a Nyanko lynch as well (closer to the end) .. but in both cases had zero support because I had no compelling evidence.
Nutmeg's vouching didn't do much for me. Honestly, I did my best to ignore Nutmeg and WTF (no offense to either of you!!!) the entire time because I couldn't really grasp the extent of their roles, capabilities, allegiances, etc. Ask Katie: I told her a number of times that I had no idea how to account for them.
If you had brought krist back I would have been able to communicate with her! Mutes were the only ones I could communicate with, good ole nutmeg got lots a repetitive messages from me! I bet he would have loved a night off from that hahaI'm curious if people think I should have brought Krist back instead of DVMD. (DVMD, I know what you think. )
I decided not to, because at that point, I a) wasn't sure of Krist could gather info on her own, and b) didn't like the thought that we'd have to kill her again to get any of the info.
I also suspected nyanko, my suspicion was basically right when she was converted. I mentioned my suspicion when I became VP again but LIS and dyachei kind of said no. Since I didn't have any compelling evidence I let it go. She was always on the back of my mind.
I realized she actually was a wolf after I died and she made this huge dramatic post about how important her role was (the role she told me was lame); if I had still been alive I would have called her out.
and that's where I prefer to stay. honestly, I didn't play in the thread much differently from how I would have had I not been converted, so if you suspected me when I was a wolf, you would have suspected me regardless. broken clock right twice a day eh?
Probably why she waited until after you died to say anything.