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Hey everyone. It looks like this thread is bumping just as much as it was last year! Anyways, I'm an MS1 here at BUSM. I'll try to check back every now and then to answer any questions you have about the school or the city or anything like that. Best of luck to all of you!
 
Rejected 9/8

Stats: 3.3, 33

Gluck everyone else!

1st rejection is a painful one...
 
Hey everyone. It looks like this thread is bumping just as much as it was last year! Anyways, I'm an MS1 here at BUSM. I'll try to check back every now and then to answer any questions you have about the school or the city or anything like that. Best of luck to all of you!

Awesome, great to have you here! I actually do have a question of clarification: do BU students have access to Children's? I know it's affiliated with Harvard, but I wouldn't think that would exclude BU students from getting involved there...
 
Awesome, great to have you here! I actually do have a question of clarification: do BU students have access to Children's? I know it's affiliated with Harvard, but I wouldn't think that would exclude BU students from getting involved there...

I don't think "exclude" is the correct word, but you'll be competing with many students who are affiliated with Harvard while BU is not. You'll probably be doing your ped rounds at a different hospital that BU is affiliated with, but that doesn't mean the experience will be inferior.
 
Hey, I'm a 4th year at BU (MD/MPH program so if anyone has questions about that, I can answer as well).
BU is not affiliated with Children's and peds rotations are done at either BMC, Framingham, North Shore Medical Center, and a few other hospitals that I forget now.
You can do visiting rotation as a 4th year at Children's, I know many peers who have/will be doing that during their 4th year. It's just like any visiting rotation at any other hospital.

Awesome, great to have you here! I actually do have a question of clarification: do BU students have access to Children's? I know it's affiliated with Harvard, but I wouldn't think that would exclude BU students from getting involved there...
 
Hey, I'm a 4th year at BU (MD/MPH program so if anyone has questions about that, I can answer as well).
BU is not affiliated with Children's and peds rotations are done at either BMC, Framingham, North Shore Medical Center, and a few other hospitals that I forget now.
You can do visiting rotation as a 4th year at Children's, I know many peers who have/will be doing that during their 4th year. It's just like any visiting rotation at any other hospital.

What's the grading system, and how early is clinical exposure?
 
Hey, I'm a 4th year at BU (MD/MPH program so if anyone has questions about that, I can answer as well).
BU is not affiliated with Children's and peds rotations are done at either BMC, Framingham, North Shore Medical Center, and a few other hospitals that I forget now.
You can do visiting rotation as a 4th year at Children's, I know many peers who have/will be doing that during their 4th year. It's just like any visiting rotation at any other hospital.

Very early in this thread, an apparently disgruntled student or former student said some really negative things about BU. According to this person, the "social mission" that seems apparent as an applicant is conspicuously absent to students, and supposedly the administration is not very receptive to student input. Have you made similar observations, or does this person simply have an axe to grind? I am concerned about being a "product" as a medical student and becoming unhappy. Speaking of happiness, would you say that BU students are generally happy?

Finally, (sorry for pestering you with so many questions!) what are your favorite and least favorite things about BU?
 
3.4/33 OOS. Complete 8/21, rejected 9/9. Well, at least they're quick about it...
 
In pre-clinical years (1st and 2nd years), grading is P/F. There's no internal ranking of any kind.
In clinical years (3rd and 4th years), clerkships are graded by Honors, High Pass, Pass, and Fail system. Each clerkship has their own grading criteria but is usually a mix of clinical impression as graded by attendings/residents and shelf score.
Clinical exposure occurs within the first few weeks of 1st year when you start interviewing patients as part of the Introduction to Clinical Medicine course.

What's the grading system, and how early is clinical exposure?
 
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does anyone know when they take a second look at the applications that have already been screened but not offered an II or rejected? it seems they're still going pretty chronologically, but still haven't given decisions to a lot of people complete before 8/20 (I was complete 8/1)
 
Wow, that is as far from the truth as possible, at least in my opinion and I'm sure in the opinion of most BU med students that I know.
The social mission of BU and BMC is huge and true, it's what makes BU special. The patients that we see are usually not only very sick but have tons of social issues that need to be dealt with. There are tons of volunteer extracurriculars that are geared toward the "social mission" of BU that pre-clinical med students can participate in - flu shot clinics, van that goes around Boston area providing free food and quick clinical services, etc. If you come to interview, make sure to ask the students here what they think of the social mission of the school and you'll hear tons of stuff that med students do here, as well as the kind of stuff you're exposed to on the wards in terms of social issues. The mantra of treating "the whole person" and not just the disease and truly at play here throughout your clinical training.
In terms of student feedback - again, something huge that's taken into account all the time. Because of student feedback, pre-clinical curriculum is changed and improved from year to year just with student feedback (lectures taken out that are not helpful, lectures added that are not helpful, lecturers not invited back that were not good, etc). Same could be said with clinical training - curriculums/exposures/lectures are changed based on student feedback.

Happiness - students here are very happy, in my opinion. Even though each class is pretty big (~200 students), everyone is pretty much friends with everyone else, and the same could be said between classes. Upperclassmen tend to help out underclassmen a lot. There's no competition here and if someone tries to be competitive and make someone else look worse, it only makes you look worse in everyone's eyes. That's one of the best things about BU. As well as it's social mission and the kind of clinical training that you get here, it's really amazing the stuff that you see daily on the wards.
The biggest weakness by far is the cost. But I have no regrets at all about BU.

Very early in this thread, an apparently disgruntled student or former student said some really negative things about BU. According to this person, the "social mission" that seems apparent as an applicant is conspicuously absent to students, and supposedly the administration is not very receptive to student input. Have you made similar observations, or does this person simply have an axe to grind? I am concerned about being a "product" as a medical student and becoming unhappy. Speaking of happiness, would you say that BU students are generally happy?

Finally, (sorry for pestering you with so many questions!) what are your favorite and least favorite things about BU?
 
Very early in this thread, an apparently disgruntled student or former student said some really negative things about BU. According to this person, the "social mission" that seems apparent as an applicant is conspicuously absent to students, and supposedly the administration is not very receptive to student input. Have you made similar observations, or does this person simply have an axe to grind? I am concerned about being a "product" as a medical student and becoming unhappy. Speaking of happiness, would you say that BU students are generally happy?

Finally, (sorry for pestering you with so many questions!) what are your favorite and least favorite things about BU?

We had someone post a similar thing last year too, and the year before that I believe. Honestly, that hasn't been my experience so far. There are many student run service oriented projects that you can do (as eagle mentioned) as a first and second year, and BU is affiliated with several community health centers around the Boston metro area. Student feedback is pretty huge as well. Every class has a group of students that meet with the course director to discuss how things are going. There are limits to what kind of suggestions they can implement of course, but on the whole, they seem pretty good about making sure the students have a say.
As for happiness, our class seems pretty happy. I think this is due in large part to the medical student residence they built this year. I would wager over half my class is living there. It's kind of like being back in the dorms, but it's really easy to get to know everyone (and party it up on the weekends). And Boston in general is just a fun city, so you will always have things to do and people who are willing to go.
Like eagle, I'm glad I chose BU. Wish it were cheaper, but no regrets thus far.
 
...I've been complete since 7/16...

Might be a good sign. I think people complete on 7/31 have received rejections. I was complete on 7/31 and got my ii a week or so ago.
 
Hey guys. 2nd year BUSM student here. I whole-heartedly agree with what Eagle34 has said. I love everything about this school, minus the price :laugh: Some advice, if you want it:

1) The waiting game really sucks and it does feel completely random. If you haven't received an email at 19 days or 30 days, relax and give Admissions a break. BUSM was one of the few schools that really do try to keep you informed. It is SO easy to become neurotic and feel like your world is going to crumble after waiting yet ANOTHER day (been there, done that). Try to restrict your time on SDN and continue doing those activities/hobbies that make you an interesting applicant/person! You should have something to talk about with your interviewer besides why you want to be a doctor/go to BUSM 😉
Oh, and as an FYI, since everyone wants to know timeline: I think my BUSM application was complete at the end of August/beginning of September. I got an interview invite email sometime in December. My interview in Jan/Feb was canceled because of a snowstorm and then was rescheduled on the LAST DAY of interviews, I think mid-February. BUSM sends out the first batch of acceptances mid-December and the second batch mid to late March. If you interviewed before December but haven't been accepted then, your application will be reviewed again with the spring batch. I was accepted with the spring batch. It is true that there is very little movement on the waitlist, especially last year's. (My fellow classmates were just THAT awesome during Second Look in May 😀)

2) Public transportation is super easy in Boston and you can easily walk to a lot of places. Don't be fooled by the map and think Boston is a super big city - it's not. I have walked from the South End to Downtown on more than one occasion. Buses/subway are reliable, efficient, and super cheap. If you must take a cab, only do it if you are pressed for time or if you're wearing heels. (Totally appropriate then lol) Public transit is the way to go for the airport, but just give yourself some extra time during rush hour. (From the South End, I would say give yourself 45mins-1hr to get to the airport during rush hour.)

3) Yes, there will be an email sent out about student hosting. Admissions is actually holding an interest meeting tomorrow regarding this. Interested students will sign up, Admissions will compile all of the info and then send it out to you. I used a student host when I was interviewing and I hosted students last year. Few thoughts:
- Understand that students may take a few days to respond, especially if they are studying. I'd say it's appropriate to send a follow-up email after like... a week - NOT after 4 hours.
- Be considerate. Most people will email several different hosts. If you find a host, please let the other students know that you no longer need a host. If they give you an address, don't ask them for directions if you can easily look it up online. Etc, etc.
- Ask the host what you should bring (sleeping bag, pillow, towel, air mattress, etc). Some students will have futons, some will have a nice, some-what clean floor. Also, apartments in Boston can be drafty so bring an extra sweatshirt if you tend to get cold.

4) The Medical Student Residence hall is new for the first years. Yes, it does make meeting other students easier. Yes, I can imagine that it does feel like a dorm. No, you do not have to live in the MSR. I have an apartment in the South End (bc I chronically oversleep and want to be within walking/running distance). I love it and would NEVER consider living in the MSR. Personal choice. (I'm also 27, so dorms are just not my thing.)

5) I love the administration. Everyone is always asking for your feedback and constantly trying to analyze the data and improve the school. When you meet Dean Witzberg at your interviews, you will understand what I mean. I have a crush on him, don't judge. Just wait - You will have a crush on him too after you hear him speak.

6) My class rocks. The students are from all over the place and have done so many things. I'm sure every other school is like that too, but seriously, my class is awesome. I have no clue how Admissions chooses the class, but whatever they're doing - it works.

I am happy to answer questions about pre-clinical years. Good luck to everyone! Stay cool. 👍
 
Interview invite this morning! Super excited! Complete 8/13.
 
Rejected 🙁 super sad about this one. Tons of ECs, graduated in 3 years, 32R, 3.88 cgpa, 3.80 sgpa.
 
Hey guys. 2nd year BUSM student here. I whole-heartedly agree with what Eagle34 has said. I love everything about this school, minus the price :laugh: Some advice, if you want it:

1) The waiting game really sucks and it does feel completely random. If you haven't received an email at 19 days or 30 days, relax and give Admissions a break. BUSM was one of the few schools that really do try to keep you informed. It is SO easy to become neurotic and feel like your world is going to crumble after waiting yet ANOTHER day (been there, done that). Try to restrict your time on SDN and continue doing those activities/hobbies that make you an interesting applicant/person! You should have something to talk about with your interviewer besides why you want to be a doctor/go to BUSM 😉
Oh, and as an FYI, since everyone wants to know timeline: I think my BUSM application was complete at the end of August/beginning of September. I got an interview invite email sometime in December. My interview in Jan/Feb was canceled because of a snowstorm and then was rescheduled on the LAST DAY of interviews, I think mid-February. BUSM sends out the first batch of acceptances mid-December and the second batch mid to late March. If you interviewed before December but haven't been accepted then, your application will be reviewed again with the spring batch. I was accepted with the spring batch. It is true that there is very little movement on the waitlist, especially last year's. (My fellow classmates were just THAT awesome during Second Look in May 😀)

2) Public transportation is super easy in Boston and you can easily walk to a lot of places. Don't be fooled by the map and think Boston is a super big city - it's not. I have walked from the South End to Downtown on more than one occasion. Buses/subway are reliable, efficient, and super cheap. If you must take a cab, only do it if you are pressed for time or if you're wearing heels. (Totally appropriate then lol) Public transit is the way to go for the airport, but just give yourself some extra time during rush hour. (From the South End, I would say give yourself 45mins-1hr to get to the airport during rush hour.)

3) Yes, there will be an email sent out about student hosting. Admissions is actually holding an interest meeting tomorrow regarding this. Interested students will sign up, Admissions will compile all of the info and then send it out to you. I used a student host when I was interviewing and I hosted students last year. Few thoughts:
- Understand that students may take a few days to respond, especially if they are studying. I'd say it's appropriate to send a follow-up email after like... a week - NOT after 4 hours.
- Be considerate. Most people will email several different hosts. If you find a host, please let the other students know that you no longer need a host. If they give you an address, don't ask them for directions if you can easily look it up online. Etc, etc.
- Ask the host what you should bring (sleeping bag, pillow, towel, air mattress, etc). Some students will have futons, some will have a nice, some-what clean floor. Also, apartments in Boston can be drafty so bring an extra sweatshirt if you tend to get cold.

4) The Medical Student Residence hall is new for the first years. Yes, it does make meeting other students easier. Yes, I can imagine that it does feel like a dorm. No, you do not have to live in the MSR. I have an apartment in the South End (bc I chronically oversleep and want to be within walking/running distance). I love it and would NEVER consider living in the MSR. Personal choice. (I'm also 27, so dorms are just not my thing.)

5) I love the administration. Everyone is always asking for your feedback and constantly trying to analyze the data and improve the school. When you meet Dean Witzberg at your interviews, you will understand what I mean. I have a crush on him, don't judge. Just wait - You will have a crush on him too after you hear him speak.

6) My class rocks. The students are from all over the place and have done so many things. I'm sure every other school is like that too, but seriously, my class is awesome. I have no clue how Admissions chooses the class, but whatever they're doing - it works.

I am happy to answer questions about pre-clinical years. Good luck to everyone! Stay cool. 👍

This has got to be the most awesome post I've read in a while 🙂

Thanks!! BTW, are there Canadians in your class?
 
Rejected 🙁 super sad about this one. Tons of ECs, graduated in 3 years, 32R, 3.88 cgpa, 3.80 sgpa.

Sorry to hear about that. Do you mind posting when you were complete?
 
Complete 7/31, 30 day e-mail 8/30, still nothing. Is no news is good news in this situation since a lot of people are getting rejection e-mails?
 
I chose not to submit a secondary at BU after having a very unpleasant experience on the phone with their admissions office that just gave me a really bad vibe. Looks like I saved myself some $$ since everyone with my stats has been rejected, jeez.

I work at Tufts and I've seen a few BU med students wandering around our hallways (their coats are noticeably different from our students), but there's a good chance they could have just been lost.
 
Hey guys. 2nd year BUSM student here. I whole-heartedly agree with what Eagle34 has said. I love everything about this school, minus the price :laugh: Some advice, if you want it:

1) The waiting game really sucks and it does feel completely random. If you haven't received an email at 19 days or 30 days, relax and give Admissions a break. BUSM was one of the few schools that really do try to keep you informed. It is SO easy to become neurotic and feel like your world is going to crumble after waiting yet ANOTHER day (been there, done that). Try to restrict your time on SDN and continue doing those activities/hobbies that make you an interesting applicant/person! You should have something to talk about with your interviewer besides why you want to be a doctor/go to BUSM 😉
Oh, and as an FYI, since everyone wants to know timeline: I think my BUSM application was complete at the end of August/beginning of September. I got an interview invite email sometime in December. My interview in Jan/Feb was canceled because of a snowstorm and then was rescheduled on the LAST DAY of interviews, I think mid-February. BUSM sends out the first batch of acceptances mid-December and the second batch mid to late March. If you interviewed before December but haven't been accepted then, your application will be reviewed again with the spring batch. I was accepted with the spring batch. It is true that there is very little movement on the waitlist, especially last year's. (My fellow classmates were just THAT awesome during Second Look in May 😀)

2) Public transportation is super easy in Boston and you can easily walk to a lot of places. Don't be fooled by the map and think Boston is a super big city - it's not. I have walked from the South End to Downtown on more than one occasion. Buses/subway are reliable, efficient, and super cheap. If you must take a cab, only do it if you are pressed for time or if you're wearing heels. (Totally appropriate then lol) Public transit is the way to go for the airport, but just give yourself some extra time during rush hour. (From the South End, I would say give yourself 45mins-1hr to get to the airport during rush hour.)

3) Yes, there will be an email sent out about student hosting. Admissions is actually holding an interest meeting tomorrow regarding this. Interested students will sign up, Admissions will compile all of the info and then send it out to you. I used a student host when I was interviewing and I hosted students last year. Few thoughts:
- Understand that students may take a few days to respond, especially if they are studying. I'd say it's appropriate to send a follow-up email after like... a week - NOT after 4 hours.
- Be considerate. Most people will email several different hosts. If you find a host, please let the other students know that you no longer need a host. If they give you an address, don't ask them for directions if you can easily look it up online. Etc, etc.
- Ask the host what you should bring (sleeping bag, pillow, towel, air mattress, etc). Some students will have futons, some will have a nice, some-what clean floor. Also, apartments in Boston can be drafty so bring an extra sweatshirt if you tend to get cold.

4) The Medical Student Residence hall is new for the first years. Yes, it does make meeting other students easier. Yes, I can imagine that it does feel like a dorm. No, you do not have to live in the MSR. I have an apartment in the South End (bc I chronically oversleep and want to be within walking/running distance). I love it and would NEVER consider living in the MSR. Personal choice. (I'm also 27, so dorms are just not my thing.)

5) I love the administration. Everyone is always asking for your feedback and constantly trying to analyze the data and improve the school. When you meet Dean Witzberg at your interviews, you will understand what I mean. I have a crush on him, don't judge. Just wait - You will have a crush on him too after you hear him speak.

6) My class rocks. The students are from all over the place and have done so many things. I'm sure every other school is like that too, but seriously, my class is awesome. I have no clue how Admissions chooses the class, but whatever they're doing - it works.

I am happy to answer questions about pre-clinical years. Good luck to everyone! Stay cool. 👍

Nice post, but I'd like to know which "reliable" buses you've taken 🙂. I find them to be quite the opposite.

Thanks for the timeline info, certainly eases my thoughts.
 
This has got to be the most awesome post I've read in a while 🙂

Thanks!! BTW, are there Canadians in your class?

Thanks! And yes, there are Canadians. I'd say 3 or 4 in my year, ranging in ages 23 to 30. One has her PhD already. (Isn't that amazing?)

Reliable buses: I think my definition is a bit skewed since I hate NYC buses lol. I use the silver line to get to Chinatown/Downtown/South Station, the 1 to go up to Cambridge/Harvard, the 43 to Boston Commons/Beacon Hill area. The silver and the 1 can definitely be delayed during rush hour, but they eventually appear. Just plan ahead and you can just walk everywhere!
 
Rejected 9/8

Stats: 3.3, 33

Gluck everyone else!

1st rejection is a painful one...

Sorry to hear. My first rejection was from one of my top 3 schools.. Definitely a tough pill to swallow.
 
Interview invite today! Woot woot!

3.4/3.5 cGPA, sGPA, 34S, completed August 13th.

Hopefully they can accommodate my schedule (I'll be on the east coast the week of the 22nd) so I don't have to make two cross-country trips.
 
Ah, they got back to me quick. Locked in for October 24th!
 
Congrats, how did you get interview for October? The only options I was given were the week of November 26th.

I messaged them about my pre-existing travel arrangements, asked for either the 22nd, 24th, or the 26th, and they emailed me back with the 24th (October).
 
Hey, I'm a 4th year at BU (MD/MPH program so if anyone has questions about that, I can answer as well).
BU is not affiliated with Children's and peds rotations are done at either BMC, Framingham, North Shore Medical Center, and a few other hospitals that I forget now.
You can do visiting rotation as a 4th year at Children's, I know many peers who have/will be doing that during their 4th year. It's just like any visiting rotation at any other hospital.

How do you feel about the MD/MPH program? Additionally what was your public health experience like before you applied?

Asking as someone who is very interested in public health and MD/MPH programs, but does not have much experience in the field.

Thanks!
 
Can anyone verify if there is an MMI portion?
 
Thanks! And yes, there are Canadians. I'd say 3 or 4 in my year, ranging in ages 23 to 30. One has her PhD already. (Isn't that amazing?)

Reliable buses: I think my definition is a bit skewed since I hate NYC buses lol. I use the silver line to get to Chinatown/Downtown/South Station, the 1 to go up to Cambridge/Harvard, the 43 to Boston Commons/Beacon Hill area. The silver and the 1 can definitely be delayed during rush hour, but they eventually appear. Just plan ahead and you can just walk everywhere!

Do you happen to know how many non-canadian internationals there are in your class? Thanks
 
MedPR, I hope there is an MMI. I like them a lot better than regular interviews. (At least I liked my last MMI 😀 )
 
MedPR, I hope there is an MMI. I like them a lot better than regular interviews. (At least I liked my last MMI 😀 )

What's an MMI like? I've never been part of one...
 
I love the program. It is an extra year (usually done between 3rd and 4th, but I have seen some people do it between 2nd and 3rd but that's less desirable). There are 8 possible concentrations to choose from: epidemiology, biostats, environmental health, health law, health policy, international health, maternal and child health, social & behavioral health. Med students tend to do epi or health policy or social&behavioral health. It really depends on what you want to get out of it.
In undergrad, I double majored in biochem and public health and had a bunch of research experience and so was really interested in epi. However, most MD/MPH students do not have public health experience and decide to pursue the double degree because they want to add something to their career (whether it's more quantitative with epi/biostats, policy with health policy concentration, social&behavioral health if you want to practice in community, or international health if you're interested in international practice).

More information about the program can be found at: http://sph.bu.edu/Degree-Programs-a...er-of-public-health-mdmph/menu-id-617316.html
Also, at open house for admitting students, there's a specific MD/MPH info session where the program director and MD/MPH students can answer a lot of your questions.

Hope this is helpful.


How do you feel about the MD/MPH program? Additionally what was your public health experience like before you applied?

Asking as someone who is very interested in public health and MD/MPH programs, but does not have much experience in the field.

Thanks!
 
What's an MMI like? I've never been part of one...

What's MMI?

When I interviewed (around 5 years ago), you had one interview with faculty member (could be either clinical faculty or basic science faculty).
 
I dont think BU does a MMI. At least they didn't last year and from what I can tell as a student here nothing has changed.
 
Didn't know Boston does MMI.

I don't know if they do. I've been trying to figure it out so I can prepare accordingly

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