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I haven't done any significant research. If I'm applying for the University Track, do you think it would be looked at negatively if I don't do the optional scholarly essay?
Is anybody else having payment issues here?
I submitted the secondary and entered my credit card information. The next screen said my payment was submitted successfully but I haven't received any emails saying that the payment was confirmed. Anybody else experience this?
Does anyone have the matriculating GPA and MCAT averages for CCLCM?
Does anyone know if CCLCM will overlook lower academics (3.6 and 32) if other areas are very strong (publications including first-author) and unique (large leadership roles in non-profit and government policy), or are high numbers required?
Does anyone have the matriculating GPA and MCAT averages for CCLCM?
Does anyone know if CCLCM will overlook lower academics (3.6 and 32) if other areas are very strong (publications including first-author) and unique (large leadership roles in non-profit and government policy), or are high numbers required?
According to Wikipedia,
-The Lerner College of Medicine's MCAT score for the applying class of 2011 was the fourth highest in the nation, and the school fielded 1,745 applications for 32 positionshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Clinic_Lerner_College_of_Medicine#cite_note-3.
I haven't done any significant research. If I'm applying for the University Track, do you think it would be looked at negatively if I don't do the optional scholarly essay?
For University Track applicants:
The research questions has been reworded so that we can include research, but we don't have to talk about why we want to be a "physician investigator." It is much easier to extrapolate what you learned.
For those that were asking about skipping the question:
If you have done no research, then skipping it is the only option. However, the question has been reworded to include non-science research also. It does not imply "significant" research. Personally, I would answer with even minimal experience (which is what I have) because there is a strong emphasis on what you got out of the experience. The research doesn't have to be that impressive to have taught you something...even if it's why you don't want to be a Ph.D.
Does anyone have the matriculating GPA and MCAT averages for CCLCM?
Does anyone know if CCLCM will overlook lower academics (3.6 and 32) if other areas are very strong (publications including first-author) and unique (large leadership roles in non-profit and government policy), or are high numbers required?
If you have something good to write, then do try. Of course, if you have actually not done anything, then you cannot create something from nothing.
That doesn't actually sound that low to me. We don't have a cutoff, and it will not raise any concerns regarding your academic ability. If you do want to go there and the rest of your application is good, I can't imagine not applying due to those numbers.
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GahHhhhh! Guys I need help! This secondary is killing me!
Especially the research essay. I've been at it for hours...a lot of hours.
I have two years of research experience through an independent project in school. It has gotten fairly in depth. On top of that, I am several weeks into a summer research project through an REU.That's ALOT to talk about, especially when Case wants to know my hypothesis, methods, results, reasoning, and motivation to be a physician scientist.
Seriously how the heck can I get all this in 3500 characters? I've written several drafts, and just trying to address the things they want regarding my first research project is breaking the 4,000 character count.
I want to get this secondary in ASAP. Please I need suggestions. How did you guys answer this one? I could just give a very basic run down of what I did, without giving any details or experiments, but I don't know if that would look bad.
I want them to know I am serious about research, and I have a lot of it. But this 3500 character limit is ridiculous, considering everything they want me to address. 🙁
GahHhhhh! Guys I need help! This secondary is killing me!
Especially the research essay. I've been at it for hours...a lot of hours.
I have two years of research experience through an independent project in school. It has gotten fairly in depth. On top of that, I am several weeks into a summer research project through an REU.That's ALOT to talk about, especially when Case wants to know my hypothesis, methods, results, reasoning, and motivation to be a physician scientist.
Seriously how the heck can I get all this in 3500 characters? I've written several drafts, and just trying to address the things they want regarding my first research project is breaking the 4,000 character count.
I want to get this secondary in ASAP. Please I need suggestions. How did you guys answer this one? I could just give a very basic run down of what I did, without giving any details or experiments, but I don't know if that would look bad.
I want them to know I am serious about research, and I have a lot of it. But this 3500 character limit is ridiculous, considering everything they want me to address. 🙁
Hiya.vc7878 said:People who have not looked at that post, there is a lot of information I have included some prior posts by myself and CCLCMer - who graduated last year and just completed her first year of residency at her top choice.
Good post, and I agree completely. You should add this to the FAQ post on the first page.Good question...
Yes - it was a big unknown. I had to have some faith that they, the adcom knew who I was (that I had been honest in my intentions and application), and knew what kind of person could succeed in the program. The biggest adjustment isn't the lack of grades, it is the portfolio system. I think it is important if/when you come for an interview to really try and understand and ask questions about the feedback system. I've been out in the "real world" and I am not gonna lie - it stung the first couple of times I received feedback from peers and professors I admired. Also, you learn quickly to sign your anonymous feedback to "keep yourself honest" because it makes you more careful in how you give others feedback. But rest assured - the process works.
How would you know if the program is right? I tell people flat-out:
Do NOT come to our program is:
1) You live to set the curve in your classes
2) You love to compare grades with your buddies
3) You enjoy that feeling of knowing everything on the exam and not having to know anything else.
4) You cannot tolerate ambiguity from your professors (like expectations, vague questions, no syllabus, etc.)
And not related to this question but also
do NOT come:
5) Because you want the scholarship
6) Because you want to be associated with Cleveland Clinic
7) If you are sure you do not like research. Research is integrated into every aspect of your first two years. Almost every discussion includes recent research. This can be disheartening if you particularly do not want to know about the current theories or recent trials, or molecular mechanisms of a particular cell receptor.
...you will be miserable here if you do not heed my advice.
Don't know. Don't care. CCLCM has no cutoffs, so you don't need to know or care either. Seriously. There are people accepted with MCATs in the 20s and you can see what vc7777's GPA was on her mdapps profile.Does anyone have the matriculating GPA and MCAT averages for CCLCM?
If you're interested in attending the program, you should apply.Does anyone know if CCLCM will overlook lower academics (3.6 and 32) if other areas are very strong (publications including first-author) and unique (large leadership roles in non-profit and government policy), or are high numbers required?
Good advice. 👍Neurophage said:I think you should:
1. Pick the one project with the most depth, or the one about which you'd most like to speak at an interview.
2. Focus on making it nice to read and worry less about details.
So for the research essay... if we did multiple experiments (each with different but related hypothesis) to support a bigger, overall question we were addressing, would it be advisable to mention all of the smaller experiments performed and hypothesis tested by each experiment to address the overall question? Not sure about the balance between detail vs. broader scope I should be writing ... any suggestions? I hope I made sense, thanks!!
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My project was to see if a transcriptions factor regulated proliferation. From there I explained I did several assays including MTT proliferation assays, migration assays, and apoptosis assays after either siRNA knockdown or transfection... Is that what you are asking? If so, I would mention some of the individual experiments you did.
Area of improvement essay? Does that come after the "challenge", "optional scholarly research", and "small group work" essays...or did I miss it somewhere?
I haven't gotten the secondary yet (only added the school today), but I was wondering if anybody could tell me how strict the 1000 char limit is? Is it a rough estimate, or should I spend another hour or so trimming it down to precisely 1000 char? Thanks! 🙂
For the areas of improvement essay I know exactly what I need to improve on but am afraid adcoms may think I am taking a BS route for this essay by saying it. Is anyone else feeling the same way about this?
I feel like I should have a weakness that isn't "a positive" but my most glaring issue I need to address is something seen as a good trait by many. Yet anyone that knows me knows this should be the first thing I work on... I am not sure what to do about this and am looking for some feedback.
So for the research essay... if we did multiple experiments (each with different but related hypothesis) to support a bigger, overall question we were addressing, would it be advisable to mention all of the smaller experiments performed and hypothesis tested by each experiment to address the overall question? Not sure about the balance between detail vs. broader scope I should be writing ... any suggestions? I hope I made sense, thanks!!
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My project was to see if a transcriptions factor regulated proliferation. From there I explained I did several assays including MTT proliferation assays, migration assays, and apoptosis assays after either siRNA knockdown or transfection... Is that what you are asking? If so, I would mention some of the individual experiments you did.
For the areas of improvement essay, for the part asking for my plan, could I mention something that I am currently doing to improve that characteristic, even if that activity is something not mentioned on my AMCAS primary (since it's something I started recently)?
I haven't gotten the secondary yet (only added the school today), but I was wondering if anybody could tell me how strict the 1000 char limit is? Is it a rough estimate, or should I spend another hour or so trimming it down to precisely 1000 char? Thanks! 🙂
I believe you need to read Page 4.
Also.. this may seem a bit neurotic but for the research question if we weren't necessarily working on a project completely independently but were heavily involved in it with a post-doc, in our paper can we say... "we did this to blah blah blah" or should we assume responsibility to say "I did this, I did that.."
Just making sure, thanks
Anyone know why Case hasn't been marking applications as complete or sending out interview invites yet? I know last year they were sending out invites two days after submitting.
Anyone else still not receive the secondary? I had my primary verified around the 6th.
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started yet?
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The Mayo thread is way better than this one...we have a ton more posts. You guys need to work harder to compete with the best...