2013-2014 Rosalind Franklin University Application Thread

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Member068 said:
I interviewed Jan 8th and it's been crickets since. Do some interviewees get post interview holds and some do not? Just wanting me make sure I'm not missing something.
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DH0209 said:
I interviewed on the 10th of Jan..and silence for me too..I think they will put out results soon..This is our 7th week of waiting already. Hopefully we will find out soon.

Also, someone in the previous post said they got rejected and they interviewed at the beginning of Jan…so not sure whats going too… 🙁
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ElBadger said:
I also interviewed on January 8. I got a post-interview hold email on January 24. I wonder why I got an uneventful update when you didn't get an update at all.
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What are you guys complaining about?! @MDreamaker and I have been waiting since 12/4 !! hahaha
 
^i interviewed on Jan 27th and it's been crickets since. 😆
 
tantacles said:
The official waitlist comes out later. Hold means they could still accept you at any point during the cycle, but it's essentially a way of saying "Not yet." Post-interview rejections do occur, so it's not a terrible place to be.
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Do you know roughly when we can expect a waitlist? Also, my post-interview hold email said that on-hold applications are reviewed by committee members monthly - does that occur at the same time each month so we know when to watch for a new status update?
 
BlackBox said:
just nothing. literally nothing. 😆
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Did you try contacting them? They told us during interview that they should get back to us 6-8 weeks after interview…so thats kind of weird that its almost 12 weeks for you...
 
DH0209 said:
Did you try contacting them? They told us during interview that they should get back to us 6-8 weeks after interview…so thats kind of weird that its almost 12 weeks for you...
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I called several times and never got through to anyone. @MDreamaker did get through and they were told soon. Soooooooo we'll see!!

It's just strange though. No hold, deferral, rejection. Just complete silence.
 
ElBadger said:
Do you know roughly when we can expect a waitlist? Also, my post-interview hold email said that on-hold applications are reviewed by committee members monthly - does that occur at the same time each month so we know when to watch for a new status update?
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No clue! I'm not on the admissions committee. I just go here. Call the office if it's driving you crazy. Seriously, no one in this thread has inside information.
 
I received the complete email on 27/12 and absolutely nothing since. Not even a small pool email. I know I was complete late, but is anyone else in this position?
 
Interviewed 11/22... Still not even almost an update. Contacted them twice, once email, once by phone. Equally vague "sometime soon" responses from both stating they meet once per month (not told when they meet next). Told my file has not been reviewed post-interview and my status says "interview complete." Not sure what to think about this. I'm sad because I would love to go here.
 
Badger27 said:
Interviewed 11/22... Still not even almost an update. Contacted them twice, once email, once by phone. Equally vague "sometime soon" responses from both stating they meet once per month (not told when they meet next). Told my file has not been reviewed post-interview and my status says "interview complete." Not sure what to think about this. I'm sad because I would love to go here.
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I would think that your file hasn't been reviewed yet! You're not alone!
 
Would it be ok to wear dark jeans and a button down for the second look program here? The wording in the email makes it seem like it's supposed to be casual.
 
TheBossDoctor said:
Would it be ok to wear dark jeans and a button down for the second look program here? The wording in the email makes it seem like it's supposed to be casual.
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It IS casual. Jeans and a t shirt are great; you're accepted and you don't need to play the dress up game.
 
I heard that CMS accepts a huge portion of their BMS students. Do any of you guys know how they decide acceptance for these students? Does it mean bad news for us traditional applicants since 1/3 of the seats are already taken up by the BMS students?
 
DH0209 said:
I heard that CMS accepts a huge portion of their BMS students. Do any of you guys know how they decide acceptance for these students? Does it mean bad news for us traditional applicants since 1/3 of the seats are already taken up by the BMS students?
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BMS students are guaranteed an interview, and they're evaluated based on a number of factors, which include their grades in the pre-clinical sciences and their interview. At least 60-70 students were accepted from the BMS program in my year, meaning that the number of spots for traditional applicants is in the 120ish range. So yes, this does result in a reduced number of seats in the class.
 
Is this thread for those who applied to clinical psych phd program too?
 
MissLyss said:
Is this thread for those who applied to clinical psych phd program too?
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This thread is primarily for Chicago Medical School, but you're welcome to hang out with us! I work with several clinical psych PhD students in our free clinic, and they're all great!
 
tantacles said:
BMS students are guaranteed an interview, and they're evaluated based on a number of factors, which include their grades in the pre-clinical sciences and their interview. At least 60-70 students were accepted from the BMS program in my year, meaning that the number of spots for traditional applicants is in the 120ish range. So yes, this does result in a reduced number of seats in the class.
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That is quite unfair IMO. I guess the school had to do that to attract students to their BMS program...
 
DH0209 said:
That is quite unfair IMO. I guess the school had to do that to attract students to their BMS program...
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Keep in mind that these students all pay an extra year of tuition and they are not guaranteed an acceptance. A good number of them walked away last year with more debt than ever but no admissions offer.
 
Ok i've heard this a lot... What do you guys mean by getting small pooled? Its been months since I completed my secondary and I have neither gotten a rejection email or interview invite. All I got was this:
Dear Applicant,

We are excited to inform you that your application to the Chicago Medical School is complete and is entering primary screening. The admissions committee will now review of your application. You should hear from our office via email in the next 6-8 weeks regarding a status update.

Please note that admissions counselors are unable to provide you any further updates by phone or email regarding your status other than that you are currently in primary screening.

Please note we cannot accept any additional information, letters of interest, or letters of intent unless an interview invitation has been extended.
 
#Blessed said:
Ok i've heard this a lot... What do you guys mean by getting small pooled? Its been months since I completed my secondary and I have neither gotten a rejection email or interview invite. All I got was this:
Dear Applicant,

We are excited to inform you that your application to the Chicago Medical School is complete and is entering primary screening. The admissions committee will now review of your application. You should hear from our office via email in the next 6-8 weeks regarding a status update.

Please note that admissions counselors are unable to provide you any further updates by phone or email regarding your status other than that you are currently in primary screening.

Please note we cannot accept any additional information, letters of interest, or letters of intent unless an interview invitation has been extended.
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Seriously Bra? Seriously?!

#ReadtheThread Hahaha
 
BlackBox said:
Seriously Bra? Seriously?!

#ReadtheThread Hahaha
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Yes seriously. I have been reading paste comments but since I joined the thread only recently, that's quite a bit of info to read through. Pls do you mind telling me
 
@#Blessed

I was gonna be sympathetic and answer your question, but then I realized the answer is on this page (literally). @tantacles just answered this question, again, for like the 15th time.

This is really frustrating for me. It doesn't take more than 5 min to control-f search (or whatever the Mac equivalent is) anything in these threads, on ALL the pages. Make your life easy with control-f and search small pool in each page.

I hate to be harsh, but I'm really sick of people asking the same questions on every page when they've already been discussed at nausea.

How does anyone expect to be a doctor when they can't even muster the due diligence to perform a simple text search?
 
@BlackBox sorry if this is frustrating for you. I have only been a member of this network since Jan 2014 and as such i'm not very familiar with the functionality of the network. I dont think an ability to search an unfamiliar website determines one's ability to be a doctor. Rather, an ability to be bold and humble enough to ask the right people the right question sets one apart. It might interest you to know that through your last response, i got the much needed direction and i have found the answer i was needing. thanks for you help.
 
Can someone kindly share how the second look day was? I want to know what I missed out.



Also: @tantacles

Do you personally know anyone who did research at Sinai Urban Health Institute? I contacted Dr. Neet about my research interests and he said SUHI is the closest program that matches my research interests in prevention and policy. He said ~10 med students per summer are going to SUHI as a paid intern, but here are my concerns:

1) None of the research staff have a MD degree http://www.suhichicago.org/about-suhi/staff
Dr. Neet said that the quality of research is more important than having a mentor with MD, so I think I shouldn't worry about it--I will probably have more mentors than just "a research adviser." But I'm worried that even though this is what I love to do for my research work, it might seem inferior to other typical clinical research under physicians. What are your thoughts?

2) Number of publications might be lower than other typical clinical research
I am not sure how many publications competitive medical students usually publish per year, but I'm concerned whether my work will be substantial enough to publish multiple times, especially since SUHI is located near Chicago instead of CMS.


If you know by any chance more specifics about research under SUHI, that will be helpful. I was just curious.
 
#Blessed said:
@BlackBox sorry if this is frustrating for you. I have only been a member of this network since Jan 2014 and as such i'm not very familiar with the functionality of the network. I dont think an ability to search an unfamiliar website determines one's ability to be a doctor. Rather, an ability to be bold and humble enough to ask the right people the right question sets one apart. It might interest you to know that through your last response, i got the much needed direction and i have found the answer i was needing. thanks for you help.
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Hey Blessed, dont take it personally. I can't tell you to forgive him or her, but we are all under a lot of application stress (at least those of us who have not yet received an acceptance letter, etc). So, thank you for not being rude even when you were responded with a not so nice response. Take it easy and good luck.
 
BelieveInMe said:
I can't tell you to forgive him or her, but we are all under a lot of application stress (at least those of us who have not yet received an acceptance letter, etc).
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Boy! I don't think I can take it anymore....
 
Lya said:
Can someone kindly share how the second look day was? I want to know what I missed out.



Also: @tantacles

Do you personally know anyone who did research at Sinai Urban Health Institute? I contacted Dr. Neet about my research interests and he said SUHI is the closest program that matches my research interests in prevention and policy. He said ~10 med students per summer are going to SUHI as a paid intern, but here are my concerns:
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I know several people; all of them, in fact. Send a PM if you'd like a couple of e-mail addresses.

1) None of the research staff have a MD degree http://www.suhichicago.org/about-suhi/staff
Dr. Neet said that the quality of research is more important than having a mentor with MD, so I think I shouldn't worry about it--I will probably have more mentors than just "a research adviser." But I'm worried that even though this is what I love to do for my research work, it might seem inferior to other typical clinical research under physicians. What are your thoughts?
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How is a residency program going to know what degree your mentor has? They really don't care. Do you think that a program that gets 800 applications goes through and says, "Oh, wow. She did research with someone who wasn't an MD. I guess the publications she got are totally meaningless." There's only one exception to the rule of "they don't care whom you do research with", and that's if your mentor is a huge superstar. If your research mentor has recently won a nobel prize, personally built a new spaceship that NASA will be using, or revolutionized the field of epigenetics with his/her research AND the person is recognizable by name, YAY! You've hit the jackpot and you MIGHT. You MIGHT. Let me say that again, MIGHT see some mileage out of the actual person you're doing research with. If not, then MD, MPH, MPA, PhD . . . Well, it just doesn't matter. In fact, it didn't matter to begin with because, like Dr. Neet said, it's all about the quality of the research.

With regard to the quality of the research, though, if you're going after publications hard, I would strongly suggest you ask about whether or not there's a chance for publication and iron out the details of that lab/clinical opportunity's policy with regard to publishing students. I've made the mistake of not doing that too many times.

2) Number of publications might be lower than other typical clinical research
I am not sure how many publications competitive medical students usually publish per year, but I'm concerned whether my work will be substantial enough to publish multiple times, especially since SUHI is located near Chicago instead of CMS.
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Competitive medical students do well on their USMLE Step 1 and USMLE Step 2 exams and have excellent evaluations from their year 3 clinical rotations. A publication is awesome, but isn't necessary. If you want to go into orthopedics, dermatology, ophthalmology or another extremely competitive field, you'll want to do research IN THAT FIELD, preferably with publications. However, if you don't, just do some research, make a poster, enjoy your life, and don't worry too much. Having a publication is a gold star on your application, but is not something that is necessary.
 
BlackBox said:
@#Blessed

I was gonna be sympathetic and answer your question, but then I realized the answer is on this page (literally). @tantacles just answered this question, again, for like the 15th time.

This is really frustrating for me. It doesn't take more than 5 min to control-f search (or whatever the Mac equivalent is) anything in these threads, on ALL the pages. Make your life easy with control-f and search small pool in each page.

I hate to be harsh, but I'm really sick of people asking the same questions on every page when they've already been discussed at nausea.

How does anyone expect to be a doctor when they can't even muster the due diligence to perform a simple text search?
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Dude, watch this:

@#Blessed

tantacles said:
Key points:

1. The small pool isn't small

2. The small pool e-mail is nothing to get excited about or worked up about; you are required to be small-pooled to receive an interview, but being small-pooled does not guarantee an interview by any stretch of the imagination, so you might as well ignore the e-mail.

3. No pre-interview updates

4. No one in this thread knows how big the small pool is, and the admissions office definitely won't release that information.
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I definitely empathize with you; I've been doing this song and dance for the last two years.
 
tantacles said:
I know several people; all of them, in fact. Send a PM if you'd like a couple of e-mail addresses.



How is a residency program going to know what degree your mentor has? They really don't care. Do you think that a program that gets 800 applications goes through and says, "Oh, wow. She did research with someone who wasn't an MD. I guess the publications she got are totally meaningless." There's only one exception to the rule of "they don't care whom you do research with", and that's if your mentor is a huge superstar. If your research mentor has recently won a nobel prize, personally built a new spaceship that NASA will be using, or revolutionized the field of epigenetics with his/her research AND the person is recognizable by name, YAY! You've hit the jackpot and you MIGHT. You MIGHT. Let me say that again, MIGHT see some mileage out of the actual person you're doing research with. If not, then MD, MPH, MPA, PhD . . . Well, it just doesn't matter. In fact, it didn't matter to begin with because, like Dr. Neet said, it's all about the quality of the research.

With regard to the quality of the research, though, if you're going after publications hard, I would strongly suggest you ask about whether or not there's a chance for publication and iron out the details of that lab/clinical opportunity's policy with regard to publishing students. I've made the mistake of not doing that too many times.



Competitive medical students do well on their USMLE Step 1 and USMLE Step 2 exams and have excellent evaluations from their year 3 clinical rotations. A publication is awesome, but isn't necessary. If you want to go into orthopedics, dermatology, ophthalmology or another extremely competitive field, you'll want to do research IN THAT FIELD, preferably with publications. However, if you don't, just do some research, make a poster, enjoy your life, and don't worry too much. Having a publication is a gold star on your application, but is not something that is necessary.
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That makes sense. I'll send you a PM. Thank you for the comments, especially about asking about the chance for publication and policies.
 
Is Dean Tomkowiak also in charge of admissions? Kind of a silly question but his title is Dean of CMS and usually people who run admissions have Dean of Admissions (not just the school) in their title. Sorry if this is obvious, I'm just not a pro on med school organizational responsibilities and all correspondence has been from the "Admissions and Recruitment Team" so it's hard to tell who is the head honcho at admissions.
 
ReadyToRumble said:
Is Dean Tomkowiak also in charge of admissions? Kind of a silly question but his title is Dean of CMS and usually people who run admissions have Dean of Admissions (not just the school) in their title. Sorry if this is obvious, I'm just not a pro on med school organizational responsibilities and all correspondence has been from the "Admissions and Recruitment Team" so it's hard to tell who is the head honcho at admissions.
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Dean Tomkoviak deals minimally with admissions. The admissions department deals with the logistics of admissions but has little to do with making final decisions (unless you do something psychopathic at your interview). A separate committee handles actual admissions decisions, and those same people make up a good deal of the interviewers.
 
i heard that CMS wont be making decisions on their incoming class until September of next year. its been like 13 weeks of silence already post interview for some of us. patience is a virtue but i mean come on. this is getting a lil bit rude.
 
VolunteerMoose said:
i heard that CMS wont be making decisions on their incoming class until September of next year. its been like 13 weeks of silence already post interview for some of us. patience is a virtue but i mean come on. this is getting a lil bit rude.
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I have no idea what is going on with this school this cycle. I read through last cycle thread and most people hear back within 5 weeks!! I agree, it is quite unprofessional of them for making people wait this long without giving any status update. Just hope your long wait is worth it!! 🙂
 
VolunteerMoose said:
i heard that CMS wont be making decisions on their incoming class until September of next year. its been like 13 weeks of silence already post interview for some of us. patience is a virtue but i mean come on. this is getting a lil bit rude.
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September of next year? Thats impossible since class begins mid-august. About hearing back, I think it varies because some people (myself included) heard back within 2weeks post interview. Im not sure how they do it though.
 
destinedtoserve said:
September of next year? Thats impossible since class begins mid-august. About hearing back, I think it varies because some people (myself included) heard back within 2weeks post interview. Im not sure how they do it though.
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Did you get accepted? If yes, when?
 
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