*2016-2017 Washington State University Application Thread

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5sosfan said:
I think he's talking about that one email about Kim being out of office today.
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I started all of this. I sent int my update and immediately got an out of office reply from Kim Noe's email saying she wouldn't be back until April 21st and wouldn't have access. I CC'd the main admissions email to be safe.
 
I honestly thought it would be an email clarifying all the ish going on in this thread 🤣
 
Getting waitlisted yesterday was crushing. Ive interviewed and been waitlisted at other schools but I always talked it down because I felt like WSU was the school I was going to attend and so none were as impactful. The excitement about the school in Spokane was a large part of why I left my career to pursue my dream of medicine and I felt like the school was tailored for me. I just dont even know anymore. I thought Id sleep it off last night but no luck. If anyone else is hurting, you arent alone.
 
Tomego said:
Getting waitlisted yesterday was crushing. Ive interviewed and been waitlisted at other schools but I always talked it down because I felt like WSU was the school I was going to attend and so none were as impactful. The excitement about the school in Spokane was a large part of why I left my career to pursue my dream of medicine and I felt like the school was tailored for me. I just dont even know anymore. I thought Id sleep it off last night but no luck. If anyone else is hurting, you arent alone.
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Are you my twin lol? My girlfriend and I are excited at least one of us got in, but this waitlist for me is having us put our relationship in a stand still. Since I got into AZCOM, we are trying to find what's our odds of being able to matriculate together. We had our dreams in Spokane and were planning to buy a home together if we could both land a spot. TBH, I wasn't expecting a phone call yesterday just based on odds of limited spots with a large amount of us still in the game. But I was at the very least looking for a ranking number on the list to at least give my gf and I a general idea of where this relationship is going to head.
 
WSU opening up really gave me hope that I was going to be able to stay in WA state to pursue med school... I will go on the waitlist, but I don't hold out much hope. A lot of us can't be waiting till the last minute to move our families across the state, or to another state... I really hope that the admin committee realizes that they may loose out on some good alternates (not to toot my horn too much) by not giving us any idea of our placement on the waitlist. If I didn't have a family, I would be fine with throwing something together at the last minute, and taking the acceptance the day before orientation, or not. However, it would not be fair to my family to put them through that, and it also isn't fair to them to keep waiting indefinitely to start planning our move to another state. Waitlist position would give me/us the data needed to make an educated guess about what our next steps should be. This would also go towards WSU stated mission of creating a medical school environment that promotes the health and wellbeing of their students.
 
psychedskier said:
WSU opening up really gave me hope that I was going to be able to stay in WA state to pursue med school... I will go on the waitlist, but I don't hold out much hope. A lot of us can't be waiting till the last minute to move our families across the state, or to another state... I really hope that the admin committee realizes that they may loose out on some good alternates (not to toot my horn too much) by not giving us any idea of our placement on the waitlist. If I didn't have a family, I would be fine with throwing something together at the last minute, and taking the acceptance the day before orientation, or not. However, it would not be fair to my family to put them through that, and it also isn't fair to them to keep waiting indefinitely to start planning our move to another state. Waitlist position would give me/us the data needed to make an educated guess about what our next steps should be. This would also go towards WSU stated mission of creating a medical school environment that promotes the health and wellbeing of their students.
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What are the downsides of telling us where we're ranked?
 
5sosfan said:
What are the downsides of telling us where we're ranked?
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If you are ranked then they're expected to fill from the top of the waitlist which may unintentionally skew the class demographically. An unranked waitlist means that the school can select a similar candidate that fills the demographic hole left by the applicant who declined.
 
freak7 said:
If you are ranked then they're expected to fill from the top of the waitlist which may unintentionally skew the class demographically. An unranked waitlist means that the school can select a similar candidate that fills the demographic hole left by the applicant who declined.
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Makes sense. Thanks for the info. I'm guessing it's wrong to assume that we're ranked
 
Interviewing here was one of the happiest moments of my life and by far my proudest moment. I had never thought I would get that far. Meeting the faculty and seeing their passion and similar values uplifted and imspired me. I broke down in tears once the day was over.

Even though I got rejected I am very excited for what the school has planned for our communities in WA state.
 
freak7 said:
If you are ranked then they're expected to fill from the top of the waitlist which may unintentionally skew the class demographically. An unranked waitlist means that the school can select a similar candidate that fills the demographic hole left by the applicant who declined.
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Unfortunately, class demographics are even more important with 60 students in a class compared to the UW with 150+ students. I can understand why WSU doesn't rank, even though it majorly sucks for applicants. But again, I think most schools don't rank waitlists. Only about 20% rank IME.
 
Yeah after this I'm strongly considering what else to do with my life.
 
Just withdrew my application this morning ! Got the waitlist email earlier this week too. Good luck everybody
 
Submitted my acceptance of the waitlist position / update letter today.
Here's hoping right?
 
Le sigh, I need to get on that but haven't had the time yet. I'm hoping to get mine in tomorrow. But from the sounds of it, timing doesn't matter as long as it's before the due date


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Did anyone send in an acceptance of a spot on the waitlist without sending in an update? I'm not in school anymore, and I really don't have anything to update them on, so I don't want to waste their time, especially since they said not to send in a letter of intent, but it seems like it'd look bad if you didn't send in something...
 
What are the updates for if they just going to fill the spots based on class demographics
 
I've submitted my update letter. It's definitely harder to write those warm and fuzzies than it was during secondary season...
 
Not yet, I'm kind of wondering what they would consider a letter of intent vs. an update? I am thinking about expanding on information provided in my application and interview, but it isn't really anything new that I have accomplished in the past month....
 
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psychedskier said:
Not yet, I'm kind of wondering what they would consider a letter of intent vs. an update? I am thinking about expanding on information provided in my application and interview, but it isn't really anything new that I have accomplished in the past month....
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Same ... Trying to figure out what I can write without sounding like "TAKE ME NOW I LOVE YOU!!!"
 
psychedskier said:
Not yet, I'm kind of wondering what they would consider a letter of intent vs. an update? I am thinking about expanding on information provided in my application and interview, but it isn't really anything new that I have accomplished in the past month....
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Same. From what I understand we provide updates without the language about how we would only attend school at wsu or how it is our top pick. Mine is a letter format Im planning to attach as a pdf. If Im doing it wrong, someone speak up. Mines been done for a couple of days but Im letting it sit for a few so I can reread it for proofing.
 
colormecolorful said:
It's been so quite here lately. How is everyone holding up?
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Staying busy so as to not think about it but inevitably coming on here to see if anything has happened. Doing a fair job not thinking about it too much... heh.
 
colormecolorful said:
It's been so quite here lately. How is everyone holding up?
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It's only been a week since the dreadful waitlist email, but it feels like forever somehow 🙁..
Anyone up for speculating as to what they discussed in the supposed meeting this week lol?
 
Sent in the other day my acceptance to WL- my update was super dry - here are my additional grades, here's my activities that have continued, etc.

I'm pretty resigned that I'm going to the school I'm currently accepted at (DO) - I still have 3 post II's I'm waiting on, and it's easier just to assume they are no's. So emotionally over this waiting at this point


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Has the admissions committee said anything about a waitlist pull day? I know a lot of other medical schools have one. Maybe after April 30?
 
colormecolorful said:
Has the admissions committee said anything about a waitlist pull day? I know a lot of other medical schools have one. Maybe after April 30?
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I think they hinted maybe after April 30th, but I think we pretty much got all of the information we were going to get in the Waitlist email. Also did anyone receive a confirmation email when they accepted a spot on the waitlist? I thought we were supposed to have some sort of follow up based on the info they gave us on interview day.
 
Im sure this is something I should know, but what a pull day
 
I just received a confirmation email from Kim Noe that I'm on the waitlist. For a second I thought they were offering me a spot off the waitlist.
 
Finally submitted my email ... Don't even know how many times I read over my update letter and email ... Here's to waiting
 
I like how the very first couple bullet points of "to-dos" are things the school specifically said not to do


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MD4lif3 said:
For those also dreading being on this unranked waitlist, here's a fun article to read about the whole WL process:
https://www.usnews.com/education/bl...donts-for-wait-listed-medical-school-hopefuls

Also, someone new just joined the FB page earlier today. I am curious if he was pulled off the WL or if he was already accepted but just late to the FB group 😵.
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I doubt anyone got admitted from the waitlist that quickly. Also I'm pretty sure I was the first person to send in my waitlist update not that that matters.
 
hopefuldoc24 said:
I doubt anyone got admitted from the waitlist that quickly. Also I'm pretty sure I was the first person to send in my waitlist update not that that matters.
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An email was sent out to accepted students last week about their learning site. It says there were 3 people who dropped their accepted spots and they are looking to fill those still. So I dunno if they are pulling as they come along or if they are waiting for a "pull date" as discussed above. But I wouldn't say it's too quickly since its been almost 2 weeks since the WL email has been sent.
 
Since the school is presenting like it wants to be fair to its applicants, I doubt they will take anyone from the waitlist prior to the deadline they gave to submit an acceptance of their WL offer. They would have told people to submit them ASAP if that was the case.
 
MD4lif3 said:
An email was sent out to accepted students last week about their learning site. It says there were 3 people who dropped their accepted spots and they are looking to fill those still. So I dunno if they are pulling as they come along or if they are waiting for a "pull date" as discussed above. But I wouldn't say it's too quickly since its been almost 2 weeks since the WL email has been sent.
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The deadline to accept a spot on the waitlist isn't until April 26th, it'd be pretty unlikely that they'd start pulling off of the waitlist before they let everyone respond to it. They have tried to be pretty fair throughout the process and some people may take more time to write and submit their updates, so they may be waiting to ensure everyone who wants a spot on the list gets a chance to be re-evaluated with their update.
 
Well, it comes a point in time where the fairness assumption goes out the window when we consider how their entire process rolled out this starting year. As we all know, applying early is an advantage, especially with a rolling admission. The "you snooze you lose" statement is clearly one that is applicable for ESFCOM's cycle. Please correct my numbers if I miscalculated here, but early interviewers from Jan 6-Feb 17 had a solid 36% chance of getting accepted straight off the bat. Meaning if your stats/credentials were exactly the same as the other applicants, just based off of 60 offers going out from a group of 168 applicants, you had alone a 36% chance of acceptance (this number goes up if they rejected some of the 168 prior to making their 60 offers).

*168 was obtained from 7 interview dates from Jan 6 - Feb 17 multiplied by 24 applicants per date.

Now of course this 36% goes up tremendously also if your application is stellar and you killed the interview day, but at the very least it is a 36% chance for that first batch based on statistics of head count ratio to open spots. They then interviewed another batch of applications from Feb 24-March 24. This was another 120 applicants in this second pool (5 dates x 24 applicants), of which <10 were extended offers to replace the initial applicants who declined their acceptance. Giving the benefit of the doubt and saying a full 10 offers were sent on April 12th to fill open spots from the initial 60, that is 10/120 - giving only a 8% chance of receiving an offer just based on head count. Once again, these percentages are going off of just head count ratio to spots open and not factors involving your application which obviously increases/decreases the odds greatly. It is true they gave a deadline for the WL response, and I agree with you both that they likely didn't accept anyone off the WL just yet, but I would argue against anyone saying they didn't do it just because they haven't passed the deadline yet. Because clearly they implement the early bird gets the worm at this school. Just like there was a deadline for AMCAS, secondary's, interview dates, and etc, doesn't mean they wait until everything is in before deciding.

**Edited to add this portion: After re-reading my post, I can see how this somehow seems like a downer/negative post. Not my intention for stirring up an argument or riot, just venting some calculations I did in my head on this rainy WA day 😛.
 
MD4lif3 said:
Well, it comes a point in time where the fairness assumption goes out the window when we consider how their entire process rolled out this starting year. As we all know, applying early is an advantage, especially with a rolling admission. The "you snooze you lose" statement is clearly one that is applicable for ESFCOM's cycle. Please correct my numbers if I miscalculated here, but early interviewers from Jan 6-Feb 17 had a solid 36% chance of getting accepted straight off the bat. Meaning if your stats/credentials were exactly the same as the other applicants, just based off of 60 offers going out from a group of 168 applicants, you had alone a 36% chance of acceptance (this number goes up if they rejected some of the 168 prior to making their 60 offers).

*168 was obtained from 7 interview dates from Jan 6 - Feb 17 multiplied by 24 applicants per date.

Now of course this 36% goes up tremendously also if your application is stellar and you killed the interview day, but at the very least it is a 36% chance for that first batch based on statistics of head count ratio to open spots. They then interviewed another batch of applications from Feb 24-March 24. This was another 120 applicants in this second pool (5 dates x 24 applicants), of which <10 were extended offers to replace the initial applicants who declined their acceptance. Giving the benefit of the doubt and saying a full 10 offers were sent on April 12th to fill open spots from the initial 60, that is 10/120 - giving only a 8% chance of receiving an offer just based on head count. Once again, these percentages are going off of just head count ratio to spots open and not factors involving your application which obviously increases/decreases the odds greatly. It is true they gave a deadline for the WL response, and I agree with you both that they likely didn't accept anyone off the WL just yet, but I would argue against anyone saying they didn't do it just because they haven't passed the deadline yet. Because clearly they implement the early bird gets the worm at this school. Just like there was a deadline for AMCAS, secondary's, interview dates, and etc, doesn't mean they wait until everything is in before deciding.

**Edited to add this portion: After re-reading my post, I can see how this somehow seems like a downer/negative post. Not my intention for stirring up an argument or riot, just venting some calculations I did in my head on this rainy WA day 😛.
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I totally agree with you about the advantage of earlier interviews, but I for one turned my secondary in the day after it was available. However, the earliest interview date extended to me was March 10. So although I sent everything in pretty much as soon as I could, I was put at a disadvantage just by the fact that my application wasn't considered until a much later time.
 
MD4lif3 said:
An email was sent out to accepted students last week about their learning site. It says there were 3 people who dropped their accepted spots and they are looking to fill those still. So I dunno if they are pulling as they come along or if they are waiting for a "pull date" as discussed above. But I wouldn't say it's too quickly since its been almost 2 weeks since the WL email has been sent.
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Does this mean they'll offer those learning site spots first to accepted candidates then start pulling from the waitlist?

Anyways, wonder when the meeting will be. Does seem like there are a lot on the waitlist. Any assumptions how many will get pulled? Anybody on the FB group know where people are leaning towards? My best guess is that including the 3 spots now, there won't be more than 8-10 off the list, but maybe we'll be surprised. I just want to find out cause I need to get my leases figured out lol
 
colormecolorful said:
I totally agree with you about the advantage of earlier interviews, but I for one turned my secondary in the day after it was available. However, the earliest interview date extended to me was March 10. So although I sent everything in pretty much as soon as I could, I was put at a disadvantage just by the fact that my application wasn't considered until a much later time.
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There were bunch of people got II in Jan
colormecolorful said:
I totally agree with you about the advantage of earlier interviews, but I for one turned my secondary in the day after it was available. However, the earliest interview date extended to me was March 10. So although I sent everything in pretty much as soon as I could, I was put at a disadvantage just by the fact that my application wasn't considered until a much later time.
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Bunch of people got II in Jan were in the same situation, not on rolling pattern
 
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