*2016-2017 Washington State University Application Thread

[Husky28]

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Does WSU have MMI format for interviews?

 

[SSSMDt]

Does WSU have MMI format for interviews?

Im not sure if theyve indicated but i doubt it. I suspect it would be similar to UWs interview since they were cohorts at one point.

 

[Husky28]

Im not sure if theyve indicated but i doubt it. I suspect it would be similar to UWs interview since they were cohorts at one point.

Well if you look at the email where we received the secondary, it says the names below with their job titles...so that gave me the impression.

Kim Noe
Admissions and Multiple Mini Interview Manager

Jessica Murillo
Program Assistant

Dianne Garret
Project Assistant

 

[kpop]

Does WSU have MMI format for interviews?

Interview is all MMI. 8 Stations total I think

 

[Hospitalized]

From the website:

The interview process
You will go through a timed circuit that includes the following stations:

• 8 stations lasting 7 minutes each
• One 7-minute rest station
• Final station: 14-minute one-on-one interview with a member of the Admissions Committee

You will have 1 minute to transfer between stations.

Before each mini-interview begins, you will be given a question or scenario and have 2 minutes to consider your answer. When a bell rings, you will step into an interview room. You will respond to the question in a short conversation with an interviewer from the University or the greater community. After 7 minutes, a bell will ring again. You will have 1 minute to rotate to the next interview room—and the next question—in the circuit.

At the final station, you will have a question-and-answer-style interview with a trained evaluator. That individual will prepare a summary report for the Admissions Committee to review.

 

[SSSMDt]

From the website:

The interview process
You will go through a timed circuit that includes the following stations:

• 8 stations lasting 7 minutes each
• One 7-minute rest station
• Final station: 14-minute one-on-one interview with a member of the Admissions Committee

You will have 1 minute to transfer between stations.

Before each mini-interview begins, you will be given a question or scenario and have 2 minutes to consider your answer. When a bell rings, you will step into an interview room. You will respond to the question in a short conversation with an interviewer from the University or the greater community. After 7 minutes, a bell will ring again. You will have 1 minute to rotate to the next interview room—and the next question—in the circuit.

At the final station, you will have a question-and-answer-style interview with a trained evaluator. That individual will prepare a summary report for the Admissions Committee to review.

70 minutes of actual interview time?? Good god I hope I get accepted to UW beforehand...

 

[freak7]

70 minutes of actual interview time?? Good god I hope I get accepted to UW beforehand...

I've done an MMI that long, it goes faster than you'd think.

 

[kpop]

I've done an MMI that long, it goes faster than you'd think.

I second this. Albany has almost as many MMI stations and it's relatively painless

 

[happyducky]

So I finally submitted the secondary! But I was never prompted to pay that $50 processing fee.. did this happen to anyone else?

 

[Hospitalized]

So I finally submitted the secondary! But I was never prompted to pay that $50 processing fee.. did this happen to anyone else?

I had a problem with it when I was submitted my West Virginia secondary, and they use the same portal. Just retry until you have to pay it.

 

[Husky28]

So I finally submitted the secondary! But I was never prompted to pay that $50 processing fee.. did this happen to anyone else?

I was never either and I submitted yesterday. I got a follow-up email saying it was received though. Did you get that? But I'm also an FAP applicant

 

[happyducky]

I did get an email from WSU confirming my submitted secondary, but being my paranoid self, I'm nervous they won't process it until I pay the fee. There's nothing I can do on the portal anymore, I checked. I think I'll just give them a call on Monday or so!

 

[premedwishful]

Still no secondary. The deadline is approaching! ahh

 

[abadab]

Still no secondary. The deadline is approaching! ahh

Me too!

 

[premedwishful]

Me too!

When did you submit your primary app here?

 

[abadab]

When did you submit your primary app here?

wow I'm an idiot. I accidentally submitted my AMCAS to the wrong school. At least this is my first/only time doing that. Just re-submitted my primary, hopefully I get a secondary soon.

 

[SailorHg]

Secondary received (and submitted!) today after approval of my residency appeal.

 

[freak7]

Secondary received (and submitted!) today after approval of my residency appeal.

I've got to say, I approve of your username.

 

[Husky28]

Does anyone have good recommendations on MMI books? One of the doctors I work with told me to get one but I have a hard time trusting the near perfect generic reviews on Amazon

 

[SSSMDt]

Is anyone aware of when the first round of interviews will occur?

 

[SailorHg]

Is anyone aware of when the first round of interviews will occur?

From the "Secondary Received" email, it sounds like interviews will take place between January and March, with invites going out before January.

 

[SSSMDt]

From the "Secondary Received" email, it sounds like interviews will take place between January and March, with invites going out before January.

Thanks, I knew I read that somewhere but didn't think to check that email.

 

[premedwishful]

wow I'm an idiot. I accidentally submitted my AMCAS to the wrong school. At least this is my first/only time doing that. Just re-submitted my primary, hopefully I get a secondary soon.

haha oops! what school did you select instead?

 

[Munchkinman1]

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[5sosfan]

Hey guys is there a point in applying if have no experience in rural or underserved communities?

 

[Munchkinman1]

Hey guys is there a point in applying if have no experience in rural or underserved communities?

Call their admissions office and ask if you can speak to an admissions officer. They'd be the best source.

 

[MedArtist]

Hey guys is there a point in applying if have no experience in rural or underserved communities?

If you have ties to WA and want to serve in these communities I'd say give it a go.

 

[colormecolorful]

Crazy to think that in one month all the interview invites will be going out. Best of luck everyone!

 

[abadab]

haha oops! what school did you select instead?

I honestly don't even know. Some school with "Washington" in the name. Cleared it up and got a secondary though!

 

[premedwishful]

I honestly don't even know. Some school with "Washington" in the name. Cleared it up and got a secondary though!

what the?? I still haven't gotten mine 🙁

 

[Husky28]

Does anyone know what the deadline is for letters of Rec? I was hoping to add another to my file. The transcript deadline is December 14 or something like that.

 

[Ccronen]

Does anyone know what the deadline is for letters of Rec? I was hoping to add another to my file. The transcript deadline is December 14 or something like that.

I always thought the LOE were due at the same time as your secondary, but it seems like if transcripts aren't due until Dec. 13 then they would take LOE until then too. I would call admissions to be safe!

 

[DrLefty]

Yes
Per the post on their site: "The Floyd College of Medicine also makes a medical education more accessible to Washingtonians. About two-thirds of aspiring medical students from Washington are forced to go to medical school in other states."

And
"The dean noted that the medical school will recruit talented students from rural and medically underserved communities, first-generation professional students, and those with a passion to serve and lead in medical care. These students will have the opportunity to train in varying clinical settings in communities across the state, increasing the likelihood that they will remain there to practice medicine."

I wish this school would have been around 2-3 years ago when I applied.

 

[DrLefty]

I'm a little hesitant about clinical sites after hearing the feedback from UW - has anyone heard more about where rotations will be?

What kind of feedback did you hear from UW?

 

[SSSMDt]

What kind of feedback did you hear from UW?

Essentially that UW has a "monopoly" on all of the good clinical sites in Washington and thus they made it sound like WSU's were inferior.

 

[freak7]

Essentially that UW has a "monopoly" on all of the good clinical sites in Washington and thus they made it sound like WSU's were inferior.

+1 heard it too

 

[joonage]

I always thought the LOE were due at the same time as your secondary, but it seems like if transcripts aren't due until Dec. 13 then they would take LOE until then too. I would call admissions to be safe!

Wait ... we have to turn in transcript? Where does it say that?

 

[DrLefty]

Essentially that UW has a "monopoly" on all of the good clinical sites in Washington and thus they made it sound like WSU's were inferior.

Ah gotcha. I figured they would say something like that. They've been making it really hard for any other med school to work there way in the state. They're a great school, but has worked really hard to keep that monopoly status and it's really frustrating.

 

[Hospitalized]

Essentially that UW has a "monopoly" on all of the good clinical sites in Washington and thus they made it sound like WSU's were inferior.

+1 heard it too

Think about this for a second.

Why would UW have motivation to say anything other than this?

There's no motivation to say anything other than this. By saying this, UW wants to effectively maintain their status as the only option as a medical school in Washington. They want to further the monopoly. They want to keep all of the patients in Washington with the surrounding trauma region coming to their affiliated hospitals. This sustains revenue and reputation. It makes perfect sense for them.

UW is bitter about WSU starting a medical school, it is known. If you didn't know this, now you do. Trust me. UW does not like this. They've been fighting it as long as it's been an idea. The proof is there: they've expanded their class size in collaboration with the Gonzaga campus just last year. WSU starting a medical school is in no way good for UW. Ideally, this addition is good for patients because there will be more providers in Washington as a whole. But I will tell you from experience, there is zero incentive for healthcare administrators (who, by the way, do not work with patients) to promote initiatives that do not increase revenue. That's just how healthcare in the US runs.

With regards to clinical sites, the fact is UW is extremely well funded and has an exceptional level I trauma center. They have amazing clinical rotations and match tons of students into competitive programs. It's an MD education with top-2o opportunities and funding, but at the state level. Very unique and practically unheard of around the US.

WSU can't touch UW for the time being, in that regard. Reputation is built over time. WSU students will not rotate at Harborview or University of Washington unless something changes (though they are affiliated with Swedish Medical Center). WSU has Providence Sacred Heart which is level II trauma, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver is also level II trauma. WSU has good hospitals that see high volume. Providence as a hospital system is very good; they have an excellent mission and promote wellness the right way - it does not surprise me that they are a vast majority of the partnership with WSU. Clinical partners if you missed it.

Let's take a step back look at the original statement from UW again. How does this even make sense? WSU hasn't even had a group of students go through their clinical sites yet. How can UW say theirs are "better"? This doesn't compute. You're comparing something to another thing that has yet to exist. Yes, UW's clinical sites are established and UW has a great reputation. But how can you automatically deem WSU's clinical sites as inferior? Not only that, but let's take a weird example... UW is affiliated with Swedish Medical Center in Seattle, and so is WSU. How can WSU's clinical site be inferior when it is the same? Also of note, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver has a well-known family medicine residency program affiliated with University of Washington - something they take a lot of pride in as you can see. Guess what? PeaceHealth Southwest is a clinical partner with WSU.

Now let's take a different route. Let's say, for example, Holy Family Hospital (Providence) employs a number of physicians who have wanted to teach medical students but haven't gotten the opportunity for whatever reason. Academic medicine is very competitive after all. Well, now these physicians have the opportunity to teach! They are eager and excited to give back to medical students. How can we safely say this situation doesn't exist? We can't. In fact, it likely does exist within some of the clinical partners.

If someone can find UW saying something good about WSU starting a medical school, then please post it because I have not seen it. I am by no means sold on WSU's clinical sites yet, but come on. UW calling WSU's clinical sites "inferior" just feeds the ongoing hierarchical nonsense in medicine that ruins effective patient care. It's no different than a preceptor writing a passive aggressive evaluation of a medical student and all the other pecking order idiocy that goes on in medical education. It's a bunch of garbage. It diminishes the quality of patient care as a whole.

Hopefully this was educational. Would love to hear the input of you guys as well.

 

[Whyamionhere]

UW actually spoke highly of WSU at my interview and said they were excited to work with them, so apparently they changed their tune sometime between the October interviews and my November interview! But they had nothing bad to say, so it's interesting to hear how you guys heard pretty much the opposite!

 

[SSSMDt]

Think about this for a second.

Why would UW have motivation to say anything other than this?

There's no motivation to say anything other than this. By saying this, UW wants to effectively maintain their status as the only option as a medical school in Washington. They want to further the monopoly. They want to keep all of the patients in Washington with the surrounding trauma region coming to their affiliated hospitals. This sustains revenue and reputation. It makes perfect sense for them.

UW is bitter about WSU starting a medical school, it is known. If you didn't know this, now you do. Trust me. UW does not like this. They've been fighting it as long as it's been an idea. The proof is there: they've expanded their class size in collaboration with the Gonzaga campus just last year. WSU starting a medical school is in no way good for UW. Ideally, this addition is good for patients because there will be more providers in Washington as a whole. But I will tell you from experience, there is zero incentive for healthcare administrators (who, by the way, do not work with patients) to promote initiatives that do not increase revenue. That's just how healthcare in the US runs.

With regards to clinical sites, the fact is UW is extremely well funded and has an exceptional level I trauma center. They have amazing clinical rotations and match tons of students into competitive programs. It's an MD education with top-2o opportunities and funding, but at the state level. Very unique and practically unheard of around the US.

WSU can't touch UW for the time being, in that regard. Reputation is built over time. WSU students will not rotate at Harborview or University of Washington unless something changes (though they are affiliated with Swedish Medical Center). WSU has Providence Sacred Heart which is level II trauma, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver is also level II trauma. WSU has good hospitals that see high volume. Providence as a hospital system is very good; they have an excellent mission and promote wellness the right way - it does not surprise me that they are a vast majority of the partnership with WSU. Clinical partners if you missed it.

Let's take a step back look at the original statement from UW again. How does this even make sense? WSU hasn't even had a group of students go through their clinical sites yet. How can UW say theirs are "better"? This doesn't compute. You're comparing something to another thing that has yet to exist. Yes, UW's clinical sites are established and UW has a great reputation. But how can you automatically deem WSU's clinical sites as inferior? Not only that, but let's take a weird example... UW is affiliated with Swedish Medical Center in Seattle, and so is WSU. How can WSU's clinical site be inferior when it is the same? Also of note, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver has a well-known family medicine residency program affiliated with University of Washington - something they take a lot of pride in as you can see. Guess what? PeaceHealth Southwest is a clinical partner with WSU.

Now let's take a different route. Let's say, for example, Holy Family Hospital (Providence) employs a number of physicians who have wanted to teach medical students but haven't gotten the opportunity for whatever reason. Academic medicine is very competitive after all. Well, now these physicians have the opportunity to teach! They are eager and excited to give back to medical students. How can we safely say this situation doesn't exist? We can't. In fact, it likely does exist within some of the clinical partners.

If someone can find UW saying something good about WSU starting a medical school, then please post it because I have not seen it. I am by no means sold on WSU's clinical sites yet, but come on. UW calling WSU's clinical sites "inferior" just feeds the ongoing hierarchical nonsense in medicine that ruins effective patient care. It's no different than a preceptor writing a passive aggressive evaluation of a medical student and all the other pecking order idiocy that goes on in medical education. It's a bunch of garbage. It diminishes the quality of patient care as a whole.

Hopefully this was educational. Would love to hear the input of you guys as well.

Yeah I'm well aware of the conflict of interest and taking it with a grain of salt. Hence why I am still applying to WSU hahah. But I think this was a super good synopsis, so thanks!!

UW actually spoke highly of WSU at my interview and said they were excited to work with them, so apparently they changed their tune sometime between the October interviews and my November interview! But they had nothing bad to say, so it's interesting to hear how you guys heard pretty much the opposite!

Yeah I also figured that the Spokane campus might have a different outlook since their students might be working more closely with WSU and likely already have a better relationship (you did interview in Spokane right?).

 

[EWaMD]

Think about this for a second.

Why would UW have motivation to say anything other than this?

There's no motivation to say anything other than this. By saying this, UW wants to effectively maintain their status as the only option as a medical school in Washington. They want to further the monopoly. They want to keep all of the patients in Washington with the surrounding trauma region coming to their affiliated hospitals. This sustains revenue and reputation. It makes perfect sense for them.

UW is bitter about WSU starting a medical school, it is known. If you didn't know this, now you do. Trust me. UW does not like this. They've been fighting it as long as it's been an idea. The proof is there: they've expanded their class size in collaboration with the Gonzaga campus just last year. WSU starting a medical school is in no way good for UW. Ideally, this addition is good for patients because there will be more providers in Washington as a whole. But I will tell you from experience, there is zero incentive for healthcare administrators (who, by the way, do not work with patients) to promote initiatives that do not increase revenue. That's just how healthcare in the US runs.

With regards to clinical sites, the fact is UW is extremely well funded and has an exceptional level I trauma center. They have amazing clinical rotations and match tons of students into competitive programs. It's an MD education with top-2o opportunities and funding, but at the state level. Very unique and practically unheard of around the US.

WSU can't touch UW for the time being, in that regard. Reputation is built over time. WSU students will not rotate at Harborview or University of Washington unless something changes (though they are affiliated with Swedish Medical Center). WSU has Providence Sacred Heart which is level II trauma, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver is also level II trauma. WSU has good hospitals that see high volume. Providence as a hospital system is very good; they have an excellent mission and promote wellness the right way - it does not surprise me that they are a vast majority of the partnership with WSU. Clinical partners if you missed it.

Let's take a step back look at the original statement from UW again. How does this even make sense? WSU hasn't even had a group of students go through their clinical sites yet. How can UW say theirs are "better"? This doesn't compute. You're comparing something to another thing that has yet to exist. Yes, UW's clinical sites are established and UW has a great reputation. But how can you automatically deem WSU's clinical sites as inferior? Not only that, but let's take a weird example... UW is affiliated with Swedish Medical Center in Seattle, and so is WSU. How can WSU's clinical site be inferior when it is the same? Also of note, PeaceHealth Southwest in Vancouver has a well-known family medicine residency program affiliated with University of Washington - something they take a lot of pride in as you can see. Guess what? PeaceHealth Southwest is a clinical partner with WSU.

Now let's take a different route. Let's say, for example, Holy Family Hospital (Providence) employs a number of physicians who have wanted to teach medical students but haven't gotten the opportunity for whatever reason. Academic medicine is very competitive after all. Well, now these physicians have the opportunity to teach! They are eager and excited to give back to medical students. How can we safely say this situation doesn't exist? We can't. In fact, it likely does exist within some of the clinical partners.

If someone can find UW saying something good about WSU starting a medical school, then please post it because I have not seen it. I am by no means sold on WSU's clinical sites yet, but come on. UW calling WSU's clinical sites "inferior" just feeds the ongoing hierarchical nonsense in medicine that ruins effective patient care. It's no different than a preceptor writing a passive aggressive evaluation of a medical student and all the other pecking order idiocy that goes on in medical education. It's a bunch of garbage. It diminishes the quality of patient care as a whole.

Hopefully this was educational. Would love to hear the input of you guys as well.

As someone that has been on the ground teaching for many years in Spokane for many years let me just share with you all that Hospitalized has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about . . .
UW did not join with GU to fight WSU efforts but rather to support the medical education program that the school has had in Eastern WA since the 1970s.
Sacred Heart and Holy Family are both teaching hospitals for UW and Providence has institutional agreement with UW for medical education. That agreement has been in place for years.
Almost everyone in Spokane is excited to see medical education grow in the region and that includes both UW's existing programs and WSU.

I could go on but don't think we should give Hospitalized's post any additional attention because it is so far off the mark.

 

[freak7]

As someone that has been on the ground teaching for many years in Spokane for many years let me just share with you all that Hospitalized has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about . . .
UW did not join with GU to fight WSU efforts but rather to support the medical education program that the school has had in Eastern WA since the 1970s.
Sacred Heart and Holy Family are both teaching hospitals for UW and Providence has institutional agreement with UW for medical education. That agreement has been in place for years.
Almost everyone in Spokane is excited to see medical education grow in the region and that includes both UW's existing programs and WSU.

I could go on but don't think we should give Hospitalized's post any additional attention because it is so far off the mark.

That's exactly the viewpoint they put forth on interview day. They also said that they've tried time after time to collaborate with WSU, but were unable to come to an agreement.

 

[Hospitalized]

As someone that has been on the ground teaching for many years in Spokane for many years let me just share with you all that Hospitalized has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about . . .
UW did not join with GU to fight WSU efforts but rather to support the medical education program that the school has had in Eastern WA since the 1970s.
Sacred Heart and Holy Family are both teaching hospitals for UW and Providence has institutional agreement with UW for medical education. That agreement has been in place for years.
Almost everyone in Spokane is excited to see medical education grow in the region and that includes both UW's existing programs and WSU.

I could go on but don't think we should give Hospitalized's post any additional attention because it is so far off the mark.

So you're telling me it's not a coincidence that UW joins with GU nearly the moment WSU gets their plan in action? Why would they change all of the sudden?

 

[Hospitalized]

As someone that has been on the ground teaching for many years in Spokane for many years let me just share with you all that Hospitalized has absolutely no idea what he/she is talking about . . .
UW did not join with GU to fight WSU efforts but rather to support the medical education program that the school has had in Eastern WA since the 1970s.
Sacred Heart and Holy Family are both teaching hospitals for UW and Providence has institutional agreement with UW for medical education. That agreement has been in place for years.
Almost everyone in Spokane is excited to see medical education grow in the region and that includes both UW's existing programs and WSU.

I could go on but don't think we should give Hospitalized's post any additional attention because it is so far off the mark.

Please go on as well. This is a forum for input - I want to know how far off I am. This is the impression I've received from this process I've been following over the last year or two.

 

[BABSstudent]

So you're telling me it's not a coincidence that UW joins with GU nearly the moment WSU gets their plan in action? Why would they change all of the sudden?

Because we (UW) wanted to continue the mission statement of the school (create physicians who practice in Washington). That includes Eastern Washington. However, you may notice UW doesn't have a campus there. They partner with a local school who provides the buildings, lecturers, etc. and UW provides the educational support, materials, and all clinical sites.

UW's commit to all of W is part of the reason why all the class size increases for WA residents are only being added to Spokane and not Seattle. This isn't some idea that started when WSU got their medical school, but has been in the works since before I started at UW.


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[Hospitalized]

Because we (UW) wanted to continue the mission statement of the school (create physicians who practice in Washington). That includes Eastern Washington. However, you may notice UW doesn't have a campus there. They partner with a local school who provides the buildings, lecturers, etc. and UW provides the educational support, materials, and all clinical sites.

UW's commit to all of W is part of the reason why all the class size increases for WA residents are only being added to Spokane and not Seattle. This isn't some idea that started when WSU got their medical school, but has been in the works since before I started at UW.


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http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/how-wsu-beat-odds-in-fight-to-create-med-school/

Excerpts:

"In October, the UW released a contradictory study saying the state didn’t have enough capacity for two medical schools, stressing the value of the five-state cooperative that it runs, known as WWAMI (which stand for Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Idaho). The UW continues to seek an $8 million bump in funding to double the size of the Spokane part of that program."

"Baumgartner believes the UW wouldn’t have pushed to expand WWAMI in Spokane if WSU hadn’t made its own medical-school move."

 

[BABSstudent]

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/how-wsu-beat-odds-in-fight-to-create-med-school/

Excerpts:

"In October, the UW released a contradictory study saying the state didn’t have enough capacity for two medical schools, stressing the value of the five-state cooperative that it runs, known as WWAMI (which stand for Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Idaho). The UW continues to seek an $8 million bump in funding to double the size of the Spokane part of that program."

"Baumgartner believes the UW wouldn’t have pushed to expand WWAMI in Spokane if WSU hadn’t made its own medical-school move."

First, your quoted line says "believes" and isn't from someone from either university. It's just someone's feelings.

Second, I remember back in like 2008 when I was a student at WSU an article published in the daily evergreen talking about UW/WSU building the joint health sciences building with a timeline for expansion. I'll try to find a source that at least is in agreement with that since I remember the Daily Evergreen website sucks at searching for articles.

Edit: https://news.wsu.edu/2012/04/17/biomedical-and-health-sciences-building-stays-on-track/

Check out the timeline of events at the bottom of the article.


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[Hospitalized]

First, your quoted line says "believes" and isn't from someone from either university. It's just someone's feelings

Yes, but he serves/served on the committee of higher education in Washington. I have reason to trust someone who works in the field and understands the approval process/intricacies of higher education funding. Yes, UW has had a presence in eastern Washington for quite some time, and I know they've been working to expand. However, I think the final push for ESFCOM acted as a catalyst for UW's collaboration with GU.

Second, I remember back in like 2008 when I was a student at WSU an article published in the daily evergreen talking about UW/WSU building the joint health sciences building with a timeline for expansion. I'll try to find a source that at least is in agreement with that since I remember the Daily Evergreen website sucks at searching for articles.

Edit: https://news.wsu.edu/2012/04/17/biomedical-and-health-sciences-building-stays-on-track/

Check out the timeline of events at the bottom of the article.


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This article makes it seem like WWAMI will continue to expand through joint efforts of UW and WSU. There's nothing about WSU splitting off on their own.

I'm not saying UW shouldn't be upset by WSU's move. And if my assumptions are true, it's not exactly an integrity move by WSU to split off on their own when they saw the opportunity with increased funding going towards eastern Washington. However, it may have been a more cost-effective move for Washington state alone. UW hosts WWAMI; I'm going to assume some of the funding generated in Washington is diverted from the state of Washington into the other (WAMI) states (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). Maybe WSU just wanted to keep funding coming into Washington.

Regardless, I don't think you don't cite another school's clinic site (some of which are your own) as "inferior" if you are on good terms. The bitterness may be justified, but it helps no one at this point.

 

[BABSstudent]

Yes, but he serves/served on the committee of higher education in Washington. I have reason to trust someone who works in the field and understands the approval process/intricacies of higher education funding. Yes, UW has had a presence in eastern Washington for quite some time, and I know they've been working to expand. However, I think the final push for ESFCOM acted as a catalyst for UW's collaboration with GU.




This article makes it seem like WWAMI will continue to expand through joint efforts of UW and WSU. There's nothing about WSU splitting off on their own.

I'm not saying UW shouldn't be upset by WSU's move. And if my assumptions are true, it's not exactly an integrity move by WSU to split off on their own when they saw the opportunity with increased funding going towards eastern Washington. However, it may have been a more cost-effective move for Washington state alone. UW hosts WWAMI; I'm going to assume some of the funding generated in Washington is diverted from the state of Washington into the other (WAMI) states (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). Maybe WSU just wanted to keep funding coming into Washington.

Regardless, I don't think you don't cite another school's clinic site (some of which are your own) as "inferior" if you are on good terms. The bitterness may be justified, but it helps no one at this point.

If you look at the date of my article it was posted years ago. Long before WSU pushed for their own medical school. I wanted to show you that UW has long planned to increase their presence in Spokane even before the whole second medical school debate started.

You are wrong about the funding. Each state pays for their part of the program. We had a big uproar last year because Alaska was considering leaving the WWAMI program due to budget problems with decreased oil prices. The Alaska medical students and doctors who do clinical sites petitioned the legislature to continue the support. They ultimately agreed to.

And you are right UW joined with Gonzaga because WSU left. What else was there to do? Leave Eastern WA entirely? Nobody wants that. That goes against the mission statement of the school.


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