2018-2019 Sidney Kimmel Medical College at Thomas Jefferson

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Mr. Peanutbutter said:
I mean they get tens of thousands of applications...
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To be fair, many other high applicant schools (GW, Georgetown, Tufts, etc) have at least put people on hold/rejected people pre-II. It seems some people have gotten pre-II rejections but jefferson (and temple for that matter) haven't moved as fast as the other schools with similar applicant numbers
 
rob1233 said:
To be fair, many other high applicant schools (GW, Georgetown, Tufts, etc) have at least put people on hold/rejected people pre-II. It seems some people have gotten pre-II rejections but jefferson (and temple for that matter) haven't moved as fast as the other schools with similar applicant numbers
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They just have a different process. Or maybe fewer people evaluating everything. If they haven't responded by now, it can only mean that they have a few II spots left and want to consider all their options before sending those out.

Either way, just treat it as a rejection and enjoy any acceptances you already have, pray for the waitlists you're already on, prepare for any interviews you have left, and if all else fails, just go harder next cycle.
 
futuredocmayb said:
Seven months later and absolutely no communication from SKMC. Honestly the worst admissions team I have experienced
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I don't think I'm alone in saying this, but I have had the best experience in communicating with the admissions team at SKMC. From Dr. C, to the admissions office, to upper year students, etc. All my emails were promptly responded to, upper year students reached out to me, Dr. C answered some questions I had, and acknowledged any update letters I sent her way. On the other hand, I sent multiple emails and communicated with a few other schools, and let's just say I'm still waiting for their email responses...

If you're interested in a school, show them by reaching out to them yourself. Don't blame them for not making a decision on your application yet.
 
FWIW, I just spoke with the admission department on the phone. The woman who answered my call stated that interview invites are scheduled to go out through the end of March and that the last interviews will happen in the first half of April.
 
Zeke8600 said:
FWIW, I just spoke with the admission department on the phone. The woman who answered my call stated that interview invites are scheduled to go out through the end of March and that the last interviews will happen in the first half of April.
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Good news that theyre extending interviews all the way through march
 
To those who have been accepted, after paying your deposit and submitting your financial aid documents, are there any more pre-matriculation things we should be doing? Had an issue of turning in pre-matriculation documents late with another school and don't want the same to happen with SKMC!
 
Looks like the students are on spring break this upcoming week so I doubt there'll be any decisions on the 13th. See y'all on the 20th for hopefully some good news.
 
wingsicarus said:
Looks like the students are on spring break this upcoming week so I doubt there'll be any decisions on the 13th. See y'all on the 20th for hopefully some good news.
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I think the admissions office is still open though! I got a response to an email which may mean nothing but I’m just hoping
 
just so accepted students know, there is some sort of info on the jeff banner under financial aid>>award overview in terms of financial aid. dont be shocked if your expected family contribution is waaaay higher than what the FAFSA estimated (fyi my FAFSA EFC was 0)

edit: im guessing they only send emails for financial aid if youre getting any lol
 
turnupformedschool said:
just so accepted students know, there is some sort of info on the jeff banner under financial aid>>award overview in terms of financial aid. dont be shocked if your expected family contribution is waaaay higher than what the FAFSA estimated (fyi my FAFSA EFC was 0)

edit: im guessing they only send emails for financial aid if youre getting any lol
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I was told I would a receive an email regardless. The "Accept Award" button isn't there so I'm guessing it hasn't been finalized yet?

Also there is no mention as to how the "Need" will be met, like with loans, grants, etc...
 
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BCtoMD said:
LM ~70

Does anyone know if there's still a chance of acceptance this late in the cycle?
Or are the March/April interviews for spots on the WL?
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They make it clear that you are never interviewing for the WL at Jeff. One of my friends interviewed on the very last interview date and was accepted.
 
BCtoMD said:
Complete 7/19 - IS
And sent several updates thoughtout the cycle!
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Would you mind sharing how you structured your updates? Did you actually have new things to say each time? I feel like my updates would only be to say that I have more hours doing the things I already told them I was doing :laugh:
 
smallscrapes said:
Would you mind sharing how you structured your updates? Did you actually have new things to say each time? I feel like my updates would only be to say that I have more hours doing the things I already told them I was doing :laugh:
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I've been working full-time, so I had significant updates about experiences, publications, etc.
Then I included a line about my interest in Jeff- hope that helps!
 
Hi everyone! I'm a 4th year at Jeff who just matched into gen surg. Happy to answer any questions, especially if you are on the fence about Jeff. There are definitely a lot of pros:
- very social and active student body
- tons of awesome student groups to work in (shout out to Refugee Health Partners!)
- good match results usually
- well respected school
- philly is an awesome city and jeff is right in the middle of it
- strong in matching into competitive specialties (ortho and optho)
- strong across all specialties
- new curriculum seems way better than what I had (lecture based)

and cons:
-HUGE class. Will likely be >300 in the coming years. The biggest negative IMO. Literally met someone for the first time yesterday who has been in my class for 4 years. Jeff adds international students in the clinical years which makes the class even bigger.
-Also consider that we have more than double the student body but NOT double the faculty, double the research opportunities, etc. This makes getting in on projects hard because attendings are overwhelmed by students.
- 3rd and 4th year rotations are packed with too many students on some services.
- you don't do all 3rd year rotations at Jefferson (Not necessarily a con because most schools do rotations outside of their home institution. Programs don't tend to talk about it during interviews, but this is almost universal and was annoying to me because I didn't expect it when I came to med school.)
- lack of diversity was a big problem my year but they are improving it

Happy to answer specific questions!
 
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lalalaaaaaa said:
Hi everyone! I'm a 4th year at Jeff who just matched into gen surg. Happy to answer any questions, especially if you are on the fence about Jeff. There are definitely a lot of pros:
- very social and active student body
- tons of awesome student groups to work in (shout out to Refugee Health Partners!)
- good match results usually
- well respected school
- philly is an awesome city and jeff is right in the middle of it
- strong in matching into competitive specialties (ortho and optho)
- strong across all specialties
- new curriculum seems way better than what I had (lecture based)

and cons:
-HUGE class. Will likely be >300 in the coming years. The biggest negative IMO. Literally met someone for the first time yesterday who has been in my class for 4 years. Jeff adds international students in the clinical years which makes the class even bigger.
-Also consider that we have more than double the student body but NOT double the faculty, double the research opportunities, etc. This makes getting in on projects hard because attendings are overwhelmed by students.
- 3rd and 4th year rotations are packed with too many students on some services.
- you don't do all 3rd year rotations at Jefferson (Not necessarily a con because most schools do rotations outside of their home institution. Programs don't tend to talk about it during interviews, but this is almost universal and was annoying to me because I didn't expect it when I came to med school.)
- lack of diversity was a big problem my year but they are improving it

Happy to answer specific questions!
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Congrats on your match!

Can you help clarify the grading system at Jeff? I heard it's H/P/F with internal ranking. On the letter the dean will send to residencies, they will disclose your rank. Is this info accurate?
 
OSUbee355 said:
Congrats on your match!

Can you help clarify the grading system at Jeff? I heard it's H/P/F with internal ranking. On the letter the dean will send to residencies, they will disclose your rank. Is this info accurate?
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Honestly not sure about what grading is for the new curriculum. For me it was H/P/F and internal ranking. Clinical years grades are weighted more heavily for determining class rank (a good thing). For residency programs, in the dean's letter it says if you are top 10%, top 1/3, middle 1/3, bottom 1/3. TBH grades don't matter for pre-clinical years at all, they matter a lot more for clinical years (you want honors in as many things as possible and especially in specialties you are going into). But grades are almost meaningless compared to Step1. Jeff's Step1 is usually a little higher than the national average and they give a good amount of study time.

The best part of the new curriculum is starting clinical rotations at the end of 2nd year. There is no need for 2 years pre-clinical and now you will have more time to explore specialties.
 
lalalaaaaaa said:
Honestly not sure about what grading is for the new curriculum. For me it was H/P/F and internal ranking. Clinical years grades are weighted more heavily for determining class rank (a good thing). For residency programs, in the dean's letter it says if you are top 10%, top 1/3, middle 1/3, bottom 1/3. TBH grades don't matter for pre-clinical years at all, they matter a lot more for clinical years (you want honors in as many things as possible and especially in specialties you are going into). But grades are almost meaningless compared to Step1. Jeff's Step1 is usually a little higher than the national average and they give a good amount of study time.

The best part of the new curriculum is starting clinical rotations at the end of 2nd year. There is no need for 2 years pre-clinical and now you will have more time to explore specialties.
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Thanks for the answer.
 
lalalaaaaaa said:
Hi everyone! I'm a 4th year at Jeff who just matched into gen surg. Happy to answer any questions, especially if you are on the fence about Jeff. There are definitely a lot of pros:
- very social and active student body
- tons of awesome student groups to work in (shout out to Refugee Health Partners!)
- good match results usually
- well respected school
- philly is an awesome city and jeff is right in the middle of it
- strong in matching into competitive specialties (ortho and optho)
- strong across all specialties
- new curriculum seems way better than what I had (lecture based)

and cons:
-HUGE class. Will likely be >300 in the coming years. The biggest negative IMO. Literally met someone for the first time yesterday who has been in my class for 4 years. Jeff adds international students in the clinical years which makes the class even bigger.
-Also consider that we have more than double the student body but NOT double the faculty, double the research opportunities, etc. This makes getting in on projects hard because attendings are overwhelmed by students.
- 3rd and 4th year rotations are packed with too many students on some services.
- you don't do all 3rd year rotations at Jefferson (Not necessarily a con because most schools do rotations outside of their home institution. Programs don't tend to talk about it during interviews, but this is almost universal and was annoying to me because I didn't expect it when I came to med school.)
- lack of diversity was a big problem my year but they are improving it

Happy to answer specific questions!
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Congrats on matching!

I was wondering if you could comment on how often people are outside of Philadelphia during 3rd year rotations. Since you said some rotations aren’t at Jeff, are most not in Philly or just a few?
 
introp445 said:
Congrats on matching!

I was wondering if you could comment on how often people are outside of Philadelphia during 3rd year rotations. Since you said some rotations aren’t at Jeff, are most not in Philly or just a few?
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TL;DR - most people probably do 2 or more rotations outside of Jeff as a 3rd year. Most options are near philly, some are further away. You don't have to have a car, but it can be helpful for clinical years (most people carpool).

Good question. So MOST medical schools have rotations outside their home institution. Often at solid community or hybrid community/academic hospitals. Every school in Philly does this, and I've rotated at hospitals around Philly with Drexel, PCOM, Temple students (not sure about Penn). Although there are a bunch of potential locations, EVERYONE makes it work and you will do medicine and a few other rotations at Jeff. The way it is determined is a lottery system where you rank what month you want to do the rotation and where you want to do it.

For Jeff students we go to TJHU (our main hospital in center city), Methodist in south philly (a jefferson hsopital), Einstein in North Philly (just bought by Jefferson), Abington about 45 min north of Philly (a Jefferson hospital), Lankanau hospital in West Philly (Jeff faculty and great hospital), Morristown in North Jersey (people have housing provided), Reading in central PA (housing provided), Dupont Children's Hospital in Delaware for Peds (no housing, but a 30-45 min drive). There are several others hospitals too.

I loved having the option to be at different hospitals. I did most of my 3rd year at Einstein because I wanted to work with the underserved population they care for. Good to see how community hospitals work before applying for residency too.
 
Did anyone hear back today? It’s been two weeks since I interviewed and I’m getting worried cause everyone seems to hear in a week or two
 
edb63 said:
Did anyone hear back today? It’s been two weeks since I interviewed and I’m getting worried cause everyone seems to hear in a week or two
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They’re on spring break so they said they would probably not be sending decisions
 
Does Dr. Callahan acknowledge updates when you send them to her directly? I sent her one on Monday but she hasn’t acknowledged it.
 
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Bzlmcat said:
They told us at the interview day last week that they had just finished Feb 6th interview day decisions
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Thanks for the info. I was interviewed on 2/6 and still ::crickets::. Guessing my acceptance got lost in the mail.
 
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