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dllsl7 said:
9/20 here, nothing yet, expecting to hear back at least by friday
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fwiw, I interviewed on 9/6 and got accepted on 11/6... they seem slower. My friend interviewed in August and got accepted on 11/6 also
 
limeyguydr said:
fwiw, I interviewed on 9/6 and got accepted on 11/6... they seem slower. My friend interviewed in August and got accepted on 11/6 also
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Oh wow, alright then, guess we gotta wait for a week or two :/
 
ope92 said:
interviewed a week before this and haven't heard anything, you think I'll hear back today or should I take it as a bad sign?
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I wouldn't take it to mean much yet. At my interview, they said they release once they know the decision, so not everyone from the same day would hear on the same day
 
dmscott31 said:
Interview 10/4, waitlisted 11/5.
MD/PhD though not sure if that makes a difference
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I had the exact same issue. Waitlisted on 11/4 after interview on 9/27. I kinda feel like an MD waitlist here is a hard R for us MD/PhDs since we're supposed to interview for PhD in early to mid Spring. I sent a couple emails with questions about whether we are supposed to interview with the PhD program anyways, but nobody's responding.
 
puzzlesmith said:
I had the exact same issue. Waitlisted on 11/4 after interview on 9/27. I kinda feel like an MD waitlist here is a hard R for us MD/PhDs since we're supposed to interview for PhD in early to mid Spring. I sent a couple emails with questions about whether we are supposed to interview with the PhD program anyways, but nobody's responding.
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they aren't responding bc they interviewed ppl with the phd subcommittee last week and this week :/
 
Current UTCOM M1. Feel free to ama, but just as a heads up, last year it took over 3 months to hear anything after I interviewed. I really do love it here, but a fast admissions process is not something we got going on (at least for most applicants). Be patient keep your fingers crossed. Truly worth the wait if you get that A.
 
Miracle_Max said:
Current UTCOM M1. Feel free to ama, but just as a heads up, last year it took over 3 months to hear anything after I interviewed. I really do love it here, but a fast admissions process is not something we got going on (at least for most applicants). Be patient keep your fingers crossed. Truly worth the wait if you get that A.
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3 months...someone put me in a cryogenic chamber

But I do have some questions that hopefully others would like to know the answer to as well.
What specifically about UTCOM do you love?
Do faculty help you get mentors/ research or is that more of an independent pursuit?
and do you think the newly revised curriculum to incorporate much more clinical experience and training (through Rocket Medicine and ICE) is something foundational to your training at UT, or do students mostly see it as something you just have to do and check-off? I guess I'm just wondering if all the hype about this new curriculum by the adcoms was warranted and is something that will set apart UTCOM from other schools.
 
dllsl7 said:
What specifically about UTCOM do you love?
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I'll try to boil it down to just a few key things.

1. I think the curriculum is really strong. For instance, I was just taught this week how to do sutures... not by residents or upper year med students, by freaking board certified fellowship trained plastic surgeons. That kinda blew me away. A couple weeks ago I learned intubation basics from an ER attending. I really like how right now in our curriculum, they all know we are using outside resources to study (FA, sketchy, pathoma, boards&beyond, and so they really fill in the gaps that these resources don't cover. They focus on teaching why learning all these random facts that sketchy solidifies in our head is important. Everyone in the country uses the same outside resources to study, but students that understand the why behind everything and can apply that knowledge are simply going to do better than people who strictly only study outside resources. You also take NBME exams every semester that let you know how you are progressing through the material compared to the national averages. Weekly quizzes for me are a great motivator to not slack off studying.

2. For whatever reason, this is not really talked about when people tour (or at least I had no idea until I matriculated here). You can take Step 1 and Step 2 CK right there on campus! That's right, you don't have to travel for step! I can't understand why this isn't advertised more. This is huge! I can't think of a better situation for taking step 1 and 2.

3. No matter what you want to go into, it's not going to be the school that holds you back. If you hate your life and like paying alimony, this school will help you map out how you match into Neurosurg (or whatever competitive specialty you think you are interested in until M3 year). I really have no doubts that i can match into anything I want so long as I get my good board scores, good letters of rec, and pump out a few pubs... same as if I went anywhere else. They show us the board averages of what UTCOM grads have when matching into the various specialties, and it's either the same as the nation average, or slightly lower (lower is better! this means UTCOM grads are matching in with lower board scores where nationally people need higher board scores to match).

4. Pass fail. This completely changes an atmosphere of a medical school. Our version of gunners are not people who try to sabotage others, but people who have all the answers when you need it. Annoying sure, but very useful when you need it. You don't worry about wrecking your health to get 90's. You get your pass and you move on! This really allowed me to be spending a lot of my study time basically doing board prep.

5. My biggest complaints are that parking can be insane on days when all the various colleges are on campus, and that the blackboard system is an unorganized pile of trash. Seriously, these are my biggest complaints, and I can live (comfortably) with that. I don't worry about not getting clinical experience or research opportunities or ability to land away rotations. This school is stable, and gets people where they want to go.

There are lots of other things that are coming up in my head (clubs, reasonable tuition, free coffee, bizarre LSD inspired architecture, etc) but that's a good start i think... and I need to get back to figuring out all these bacteria.
dllsl7 said:
Do faculty help you get mentors/ research or is that more of an independent pursuit?
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So yeah, there is a formal system for getting research mentors. In-fact there is a paid summer research thing that is just for medical students. You have to apply for it, but just about everyone gets it that can put together a decent looking CV and not be failing classes. That said, like the 2nd week of school they had a presentation where all the M2s that did research last year presented posters to us on what they did. I went rogue and found a PI from that does research in the field I am interested in going into. Lots of others went rogue and found PIs and are actively researching.
dllsl7 said:
do you think the newly revised curriculum to incorporate much more clinical experience and training (through Rocket Medicine and ICE) is something foundational to your training at UT, or do students mostly see it as something you just have to do and check-off?
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I do like the early clinical skills training. I like how they set it up to simulate what Step2 CS is like. Some of these actors are just insanely good at the various pathologies they need to act out. Some days it feels like a check box thing that is taking up study time. Other days it really does feel great to be learning how to do doctory things. Some days the inter-professional education experiences are a complete drag, some days it feels like it was really great. So far we haven't had any ICE stuff yet (comes next semester) but the faculty have been helpful at hooking me up with various physicians in different specialties to shadow, and lots of us have been shadowing. Makes it easy when you have your own teaching hospital and outpatient clinics right there on campus, plus access to the physicians in the monster Promedica system. I guess I don't really know how to answer your question since I don't really have any alternatives to compare it to. Lots of schools are pushing early clinical experience and from what I've heard, often that's just glorified shadowing. At least with UTCOM's "new curriculum" hype (seemed like every school I interviewed at last year had a fancy new curriculum) I am actually learning some practical skills and not just following around family practice residents all day for "early clinical experience".
 
Hey y'all,

Is there any updates regarding A/WL/R's from those who interviewed Early / Late September.
Just curious, as its became vague when we are supposed to here back.
 
I know it's hard to be patient but I spoke to a student on the adcom and was informed that Toledo got a lot more applications this year than they have in the past (more than expected just due to # of applicants rising) so they might be a bit slower 🙁
 
limeyguydr said:
I know it's hard to be patient but I spoke to a student on the adcom and was informed that Toledo got a lot more applications this year than they have in the past (more than expected just due to # of applicants rising) so they might be a bit slower 🙁
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Does that slow down their decision timeline as well? They said 5-6 weeks, and this is the mid for week 6 post interview, and I assume no one is working on Thanksgiving
 
doggie1659 said:
Does that slow down their decision timeline as well? They said 5-6 weeks, and this is the mid for week 6 post interview, and I assume no one is working on Thanksgiving
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honestly, I don't know. They're not transparent in their process (like many schools). They took 8 to accept me for the MD program and then another 3 ish weeks after that for me to get the actual MD PhD acceptance... that's almost 3 months. I wouldn't anticipate hearing in 6 weeks but I obviously don't know everything haha
 
doggie1659 said:
Does that slow down their decision timeline as well? They said 5-6 weeks, and this is the mid for week 6 post interview, and I assume no one is working on Thanksgiving
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I interviewed on 9/30 and they told us 6 weeks as well. In the middle of week eight now.🙁
 
In 2 days it would have been exactly 10 weeks since my interview, not expecting to hear back until next next week unfortunately
 
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Anybody complete in early September hear anything yet?
 
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