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Current M2 here looking to dispel some misconceptions
Without even evaluating the merits of the praise and criticism for OUWB, the truth about OUWB statistically probably lies between the two extremes of it being a paradise and it being a ****show. In short, it's likely in between. Now let's evaluate it for what it is. It is marketed as some sort of antidote to the problems of medical schools, with a strong sense of community, a relative absence of mean "gunner" behavior, and a focus on education
#1 The reality is it is a small school with a centralized campus and a number of mandatories. This makes it easy to meet people, outside of quarantine, and opportunities to make friends. If there are people you will click with you will meet them. This does not guarantee you will fit in or find a group for you. Essentially, you enter the school and hope you can find your crowd. If you don't easily fit a niche, like say you're a loud sporty man or a quiet nerdy woman where there's plenty of people like you, it might be challenging. With bigger schools, you have more opportunities to roll the dice so to speak and find your niche. It can't be stated enough that many of my classmates find friends for life and feel extremely included, but that isn't the truth for everyone.
#2 Gunner behavior yes isn't too bad here. People generally collaborate and contribute. There are raging gunners here but they're in the minority. Volunteer opportunities are aplenty and I like to believe this promotes kindness within the student body. However that doesn't change the fact that people can be ***holes, and you might have to deal with them for a while. I'm familiar with the case of a literal sociopath who tried to threaten and destroy the career of another student, illegally at that, and they're still within the body of 500 students currently enrolled. Some of our students of color don't feel welcome among their white classmates. Microaggressions are a thing and they become especially problematic in MS3. Some lower-income students might feel out of place with all the fancy family vacations or gourmet cooking hobbies. It's a very white and middle to upper-middle-class feeling area and student body, and while this is hardly unique to OUWB, the vibe is more diverse at peer schools like say Wayne State.
#3 Professors DO care about the quality of their teaching. They're here because they're passionate, and we do have some phenomenal lecturers. But the problems with AFCP and BFCP, our foundational courses, and their detraction on our mental health have been made clear and they remain as weed-out-ish as possible. The M4 class had like 5 students repeat the year because of those classes. Many exams are fair, but others aren't and really test your ability to regurgitate. It should be understood however that this is a problem at many medical schools, but OUWB is not the antidote that it claims to be for unfocused or disorganized medical education.
I want to make it clear that OUWB is not a bad school or even a mediocre one, since I've criticized it for several paragraphs, as many other schools have these same issues. I would just advise that you shouldn't necessarily choose OUWB just because of its education and its sense of community, especially considering that it's more expensive for many of us versus a state school. I think it's entirely fair to choose it because you like to be close to family/the location in general or the pretty solid strength of Beaumont Health. If you're turned off by another problem because it has issues that to your understanding OUWB does not have, like an issue with the curriculum at that school, by all means matriculate. Just understand that like any other program, issues persist at OUWB.
Without even evaluating the merits of the praise and criticism for OUWB, the truth about OUWB statistically probably lies between the two extremes of it being a paradise and it being a ****show. In short, it's likely in between. Now let's evaluate it for what it is. It is marketed as some sort of antidote to the problems of medical schools, with a strong sense of community, a relative absence of mean "gunner" behavior, and a focus on education
#1 The reality is it is a small school with a centralized campus and a number of mandatories. This makes it easy to meet people, outside of quarantine, and opportunities to make friends. If there are people you will click with you will meet them. This does not guarantee you will fit in or find a group for you. Essentially, you enter the school and hope you can find your crowd. If you don't easily fit a niche, like say you're a loud sporty man or a quiet nerdy woman where there's plenty of people like you, it might be challenging. With bigger schools, you have more opportunities to roll the dice so to speak and find your niche. It can't be stated enough that many of my classmates find friends for life and feel extremely included, but that isn't the truth for everyone.
#2 Gunner behavior yes isn't too bad here. People generally collaborate and contribute. There are raging gunners here but they're in the minority. Volunteer opportunities are aplenty and I like to believe this promotes kindness within the student body. However that doesn't change the fact that people can be ***holes, and you might have to deal with them for a while. I'm familiar with the case of a literal sociopath who tried to threaten and destroy the career of another student, illegally at that, and they're still within the body of 500 students currently enrolled. Some of our students of color don't feel welcome among their white classmates. Microaggressions are a thing and they become especially problematic in MS3. Some lower-income students might feel out of place with all the fancy family vacations or gourmet cooking hobbies. It's a very white and middle to upper-middle-class feeling area and student body, and while this is hardly unique to OUWB, the vibe is more diverse at peer schools like say Wayne State.
#3 Professors DO care about the quality of their teaching. They're here because they're passionate, and we do have some phenomenal lecturers. But the problems with AFCP and BFCP, our foundational courses, and their detraction on our mental health have been made clear and they remain as weed-out-ish as possible. The M4 class had like 5 students repeat the year because of those classes. Many exams are fair, but others aren't and really test your ability to regurgitate. It should be understood however that this is a problem at many medical schools, but OUWB is not the antidote that it claims to be for unfocused or disorganized medical education.
I want to make it clear that OUWB is not a bad school or even a mediocre one, since I've criticized it for several paragraphs, as many other schools have these same issues. I would just advise that you shouldn't necessarily choose OUWB just because of its education and its sense of community, especially considering that it's more expensive for many of us versus a state school. I think it's entirely fair to choose it because you like to be close to family/the location in general or the pretty solid strength of Beaumont Health. If you're turned off by another problem because it has issues that to your understanding OUWB does not have, like an issue with the curriculum at that school, by all means matriculate. Just understand that like any other program, issues persist at OUWB.
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