2020-2021 Texas A&M

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February 19Submission deadline for RANKING of SCHOOL PREFERENCE for the TMDSAS admissions match to be entered online by 5:00 PM (CT).
 
If you prematch to a school and rank that school #1 you automatically match there, correct?
 
nontrad1997 said:
If you prematch to a school and rank that school #1 you automatically match there, correct?
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Yes if that is the school you want to attend.

Let us say you attended 4 interviews and all 4 admitted you, you have a clear choice for number 1.

If you were admitted to 2 schools, didn't prematch at 3 and 4. You are not so sure about school 3 compared to your 2 admissions but if you really like school 4 which didnt prematch, what do you do?

You put school 4 first, either school 1 or 2 second (depending on your second choice to attend) and the other 2 behind them.

Your ranking would look like

4
1 or 2
2 or1
3

During match you may get 4. If you don't, then you are waitlisted at 4, admitted to 1 or 2 (your number 2 on the list) and everything below drops out.
 
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Did anyone get a link to a social mixer for the EdMed Interview for 10/19? I didn't get a Zoom link that they were talking about?
 
DangerousDays said:
Accepted OOS on 10/15! Also, does anyone have the match list for the class of 2020 and percent of students in that class that matched? I was wondering what people think will change with residency matching at A&M with Step 1 becoming Pass/Fail and school prestige potentially becoming a more important factor.
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I don’t have this and I have looked for it, but if you do find it I would be interested to see it
 
DangerousDays said:
Accepted OOS on 10/15! Also, does anyone have the match list for the class of 2020 and percent of students in that class that matched? I was wondering what people think will change with residency matching at A&M with Step 1 becoming Pass/Fail and school prestige potentially becoming a more important factor.
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I couldn't find a published match list for A&M last year, the closest is their Facebook Match Day album: Texas A&M University College of Medicine

Search SDN for that other question: nobody knows
 
DangerousDays said:
"I don’t have this and I have looked for it, but if you do find it I would be interested to see it"
I'll definitely post it here if I find it. As I said, I'm worried about matching to residencies from A&M especially after changes to Step 1. Am I right to be concerned or do you expect good match rates from A&M regardless.
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I expect matching to not be as big of an issue as we think it may be. It may not be the highest ranked in Texas, but it also is not the lowest and even their match rates aren’t bad. In terms of consistently matching into competitive specialties.. not sure. Anecdotally, I know some ortho docs that came from A&M but I would like to see specific numbers at some point. Regardless, despite step 1 going pass/fail, we will still have Step 2 CK, grades (since A&M is not P/F), and research/extracurriculars to boost our residency apps.
 
DangerousDays said:
Accepted OOS on 10/15! Also, does anyone have the match list for the class of 2020 and percent of students in that class that matched? I was wondering what people think will change with residency matching at A&M with Step 1 becoming Pass/Fail and school prestige potentially becoming a more important factor.
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In the interview day information email there was a page that had their match list. I attached a screen shot of it below. They dont include the program names unfortunately. They matched a decent amount into the more competitive specialties I'm interested in (ortho, rads). I hope this helps!


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DangerousDays said:
Yeah, I posted the link to the match list above for anyone interested. Thanks everyone, I was probably having a neurotic premed moment and I wanted to know if my fears were unfounded or not. Is it actually that unusual for 8 people (of approx 180 iirc) to get into orthopedics from a medical school?
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That’s more than UTMB and equal to UTHSCSA last year which are both bigger schools.
 
Ortho is one of most competitive fields. Most schools have 5 or less spots each year. The interviews are structured in a way where they have everyone show up one day and then restrict it to specific number of spots for interviews and overlap the interview day with your peer programs so that people have to respond right away or lose interview and/or decide which of the competing programs to interview at. There are lot of programs with 2 spots interviewing 100 people.

Interesting to see 14-16 people in EM this year, another competitive field. 4-5 people in urology seems like a big number. I get the feeling that A&M is turning out more surgery specialists.

UTSW generates 18-20 radiologists each year which seems to be their specialty. So A&M might be surgeons.
 
DangerousDays said:
How competitive is EM? I always assumed it was approximately mid-tier in competitiveness. Based on the stats, is A&M doing better than average with matching people to EM residencies?
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How competitive depends on how many seats normally exist in a standard program. Internal medicine has 40-50 seats while EM has about 20+ compared to Ortho being 5 or so.

Each specialty usually has a specific set of expectations in terms of scores, rotation grades, research etc. Competitiveness is determined by how many are not able to get into any program without a backup.
 
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texasvandy said:
Ortho is one of most competitive fields. Most schools have 5 or less spots each year. The interviews are structured in a way where they have everyone show up one day and then restrict it to specific number of spots for interviews and overlap the interview day with your peer programs so that people have to respond right away or lose interview and/or decide which of the competing programs to interview at. There are lot of programs with 2 spots interviewing 100 people.

Interesting to see 14-16 people in EM this year, another competitive field. 4-5 people in urology seems like a big number. I get the feeling that A&M is turning out more surgery specialists.

UTSW generates 18-20 radiologists each year which seems to be their specialty. So A&M might be surgeons.
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Lots of faculty members here are surgeons, more mentors in a field and exposure to it typically influences students decisions
 
prelaib said:
That’s more than UTMB and equal to UTHSCSA last year which are both bigger schools.
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Keep in mind the number of students matching into a particularly competitive field is more so a reflection on the interest of the student in that field and the quality of their application (at least in terms of MD schools). Don't fall for the trap of just looking at a school's uber-competitive match rates, even though I do believe that A&M will give you every opportunity to match into any field. See how you vibe with the school
 
whataschool_classof24 said:
Keep in mind the number of students matching into a particularly competitive field is more so a reflection on the interest of the student in that field and the quality of their application (at least in terms of MD schools). Don't fall for the trap of just looking at a school's uber-competitive match rates, even though I do believe that A&M will give you every opportunity to match into any field. See how you vibe with the school
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Interests of the student in a lot of cases are shaped by the quality of the application which in turn is determined by the training provided by the school. It is pretty much a circular relationship. There are always a few superstars in each batch but they are still dependent on the training, recommendations and how well they do in order to match.
 
There were two 30 min interviews, both of which were very laid back. One of mine had more questions about myself, my application, things in healthcare I thought were important, etc. For the other we just talked about anatomy for most of it (he was an anatomy prof).

I was a bit anxious before the SPE but honestly it's not bad. Just 2 situations where you read a prompt and then basically just act out a conversation with the actor. And they're very short so they end pretty quickly.
 
DangerousDays said:
Anyone know the chances of this happening again?
thedailytexan.com

A&M medical school faces dilemma of too many acceptances

Texas A&M’s medical school accepted more applicants for the class entering next year than it has room for, said an A&M administrator. Thomas Shomaker, dean of A&M’s College of Medicine, said 250 students accepted offers to the school, which is accredited for a class size of 170 students. He said...
thedailytexan.com thedailytexan.com
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I think you may need to worry less
 
DangerousDays said:
Perhaps. But I have little trust for these institutions whose main goal is to make profit and toss applicants by the wayside if need be so I wanted to get a second opinion from somebody on SDN who has seen these kinds of things happen before.
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I completely understand your worries. Here is my obviously unqualified opinion- Nobody knows. It has happened before so it may of course happen again. Do I think it will? No. But the important thing is we have no idea.

You got into medical school! Congrats! Now breathe. You nor I can pretend we know if it will happen again, so there is no sense in living in fear that it will.
 
DangerousDays said:
Fair enough. I like A&M as a medical school, but it's just a reminder that these places aren't your friend and you should always be highly skeptical of any profit motive behind what they do or say (That's why I have SDN to clear things up). Although, I'm glad that TMDSAS was merciful and didn't do anything like AAMC VITA or SJT (although TMDSAS schools have CA$PER).
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To be fair, it was not like Mayo or anything. TAMU let students defer a year, gave em some money, and from that program they created their MD+ program. I am also skeptical of these schools, so god forbid it happening again, I think they will take care of you.
 
DangerousDays said:
Anyone know the chances of this happening again?
thedailytexan.com

A&M medical school faces dilemma of too many acceptances

Texas A&M’s medical school accepted more applicants for the class entering next year than it has room for, said an A&M administrator. Thomas Shomaker, dean of A&M’s College of Medicine, said 250 students accepted offers to the school, which is accredited for a class size of 170 students. He said...
thedailytexan.com thedailytexan.com
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Once an admissions director makes this error they are subsequently more cautious
 
DangerousDays said:
Perhaps. But I have little trust for these institutions whose main goal is to make profit and toss applicants by the wayside if need be so I wanted to get a second opinion from somebody on SDN who has seen these kinds of things happen before.
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The State of Texas endowments is funding medical school education. It costs a lot more than you will pay in tuition. So dont assume they are making a profit, they are spending an extra 150k on you because the State wants enough doctors to take care of their citizens.
 
texasvandy said:
The State of Texas endowments is funding medical school education. It costs a lot more than you will pay in tuition. So dont assume they are making a profit, they are spending an extra 150k on you because the State wants enough doctors to take care of their citizens.
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This is one thing Texas does extremely well, relative to other states.
 
DangerousDays said:
The state of Texas is not making a profit, the university is. I have no doubt that about your statement that the subsidies are greater than my tuition, however, that does not mean that the university has no motive to watch out for their own revenue before making sure that they don't run into things like over-acceptances like they did in 2011 (unless it costs them). I did not mean to imply that they would be malicious at every possible turn, just that they are willing to gamble with their applicants to ensure the maximum amount of money.
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For all practical purposes all state universities are the State. The subsidy comes from the endowment. Unlike undergrad where 1000s of students exist, the volume of medical students makes almost no funding difference for a medical school. They are spending several hundred million each year as the university and hospital system and you are looking at 3.85 million in tuition revenue for 175 students, a drop in the lake.
 
DangerousDays said:
Perhaps. But I have little trust for these institutions whose main goal is to make profit and toss applicants by the wayside if need be so I wanted to get a second opinion from somebody on SDN who has seen these kinds of things happen before.
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I doubt the main goal of a state-funded medical school is to make profit...maybe it is for some of the for-profit DO schools or the Caribbean schools.
 
Just want to make sure, anyone else not have A&M pop up in the pre-match tab on TMDSAS?
 
texasfight2020 said:
Just want to make sure, anyone else not have A&M pop up in the pre-match tab on TMDSAS?
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I don't think it will show up for another month.

I was very happy to prematch here on the 15th and will almost certainly attend (1st choice due to the wide range of home program locations when considering rotations and residency applications and I actually like the BCS area). If anyone else who matched is planning on matriculating, then feel free to PM me so we can start to get to know our class!
 
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