2022-2023 UT Tyler

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session6 said:
You really hit the nail on the head. From my understanding, it's seeing that you can have and defend an opinion, you're knowledgeable regarding certain "hot topics" in medicine, and that you have a personality and people skills
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wysdoc said:
You seem hostile about this, why?
Every patient encounter involves thinking on your feet and interacting with someone whose outlook may not match yours.
There's an art to thinking about what's in front of you. It's not about memorizing a right answer, but being able to talk about how you see a situation and what a reasonable course of action would be.
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In my experience as a former medical student and medical school lecturer......everything can be hacked/gamed for an evaluation.

The mindset changes from after MS1 and definitely after Step 1, then definitely GME. The transition from idealism to realism.

Agreed, there should be no script.

Not hostile, just that there is potential to get stuck in a "mindset" involved in patient care which is what is being selected for in the process (like screening gram- or gram+ bacteria on a dish).

Decisions end up being within a team setting and along hospital parameters which involve politics outside of 1 physicians' complete control. I think different opinions should be debated more in medicine for the patients' ultimate safety and benefit.

Its a definitely a larger discussion and debatable in medical education circles and not here but since you dubbed it "hostile" my hand was forced to respond by describing it as I take it with a grain of salt. Does this evaluation produce better evaluation metrics, better qualified students for medicine, sure that is what we are sold. It is hard to evaluate this as a metric. That it has taken a greater part of the admin process is to me and some of my physician friends can be a selection for a certain mindset, but I agree it opens the worldview of being able to see the big picture politics of each clinical case.

Oh well, I better enter my students' grades for the semester. 🙂
 
all4bb said:
I think with the small class size, it may not be the year for people without an II. I don't want to make people lose hope, but just my honest opinion.
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That's exactly what you want ! a little freudian ' Just kidding ' there.
 
tacoqueen.4050 said:
do we think they're done with IIs for this season.....
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There is no way to know since is a new school, and they did extend their deadline for casper to : Tuesday, November 15, and people who completed the casper then would have not gotten their score until a few days ago, thus recently completed. Since they dont have predatory secondary fees, the only incentive for the extension would be to have a larger pool and interview well into January. In short dont lose hope just yet unless you are out of state.
 
kit10 said:
Wow! II today! I completed my app 11/19 after an extension. Thank you guys for encouraging me to ask for the extension! 😭❤️
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Congratulations!!! Do you mind sharing what interview dates are left?
 
Manning15 said:
It will be higher than that because they will lose some students on Match Day. It is basically right around where most TX schools sit at a 15-25% post-II acceptance rate.
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thank you my neurotic brain forgot BUT i’m worried it’ll be lower bc of the tuition promise
 
Manning15 said:
It will be higher than that because they will lose some students on Match Day. It is basically right around where most TX schools sit at a 15-25% post-II acceptance rate.
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Where did you find this acceptance rate?
 
cranberrylimeade said:
thank you my neurotic brain forgot BUT i’m worried it’ll be lower bc of the tuition promise
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But some students will match elsewhere, get full rides or worthy packages, and go elsewhere because of school reputation, etc. Also, some students will do AMCAS schools too, etc etc. no neuroses until next year when there is complex data.
 
ese2 said:
that seems low. if the spreadsheet floating around is accurate for TX schools, post-II acceptance rates should be more like 35-50%
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I haven’t seen the spreadsheet, thanks for that info! The higher it is the better lol
 
cranberrylimeade said:
thank you my neurotic brain forgot BUT i’m worried it’ll be lower bc of the tuition promise
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Absolutely no way it’s that low. Even a school like Baylor has a ~35% post-II A. I imagine UT Tyler’s would be around 40-50% as a new school in Texas, which would align with other Texas schools.
 
sp99 said:
there are a couple people in the group me still deciding between schools i think
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This is what determines a higher admit rate.

The school can only admit 40 students in the end. However, students who are admitted may have other choices and if they go elsewhere, then the school admits more during match or after match which drives up the number admitted.

The reason it can be lower than 30% is the attraction to free tuition, at least this year and next year.
 
Anyone know the length of UT Tyler med school holiday break ?
 
letter of intent- before january prematches or after prematches/before the match?

what’s the consensus
 
cranberrylimeade said:
letter of intent- before january prematches or after prematches/before the match?

what’s the consensus
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I don’t believe there is a consensus. Some people have already sent them while others are waiting until after pre-matches. Send when you want to! I think after pre-match period while they are creating their final match list is a good time.

Merry Christmas everyone!
 
Meechi said:
What are some opinions regarding UT Tyler bringing a different approach to the curriculum? In my opinion, it will be a different experience that other medical students will not be able to relate to, meaning you can't seek study advice/ resources that other MS friends are using with their curriculum schedules at other schools. Maybe it's not that big of a deal, that is why I am looking for opinions.

Also, UT Tyler will not have cadaver labs, they will be using mannequins for the labs instead. How important do you think it is to learn with cadavers versus this type of learning?

Thank you in advance for your perspectives!
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No cadaver is a big disadvantage.
 
Meechi said:
What are some opinions regarding UT Tyler bringing a different approach to the curriculum? In my opinion, it will be a different experience that other medical students will not be able to relate to, meaning you can't seek study advice/ resources that other MS friends are using with their curriculum schedules at other schools. Maybe it's not that big of a deal, that is why I am looking for opinions.

Also, UT Tyler will not have cadaver labs, they will be using mannequins for the labs instead. How important do you think it is to learn with cadavers versus this type of learning?

Thank you in advance for your perspectives!
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they confirmed during the UTT career success conference that cadavers would be used, just not the primary source. ie used for surgical dexterity work and such.
 
Meechi said:
I show that the interview dates left for this cycle are Jan 10th and Jan 26th, they may still send you an invite!
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Was the Jan 10th interview date changed to the 19th? Because when I saw the dates it was either 19 or 26. Also - is anyone else scheduled for a january date?
 
ryker1997 said:
Was the Jan 10th interview date changed to the 19th? Because when I saw the dates it was either 19 or 26. Also - is anyone else scheduled for a january date?
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More likely the 10th date filled up and they moved on to the 19th and 26th.
 
Meechi said:
What are some opinions regarding UT Tyler bringing a different approach to the curriculum? In my opinion, it will be a different experience that other medical students will not be able to relate to, meaning you can't seek study advice/ resources that other MS friends are using with their curriculum schedules at other schools. Maybe it's not that big of a deal, that is why I am looking for opinions.

Also, UT Tyler will not have cadaver labs, they will be using mannequins for the labs instead. How important do you think it is to learn with cadavers versus this type of learning?

Thank you in advance for your perspectives!
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I think saying that you won’t be able to relate to or share study materials with students at different schools is a big reach. Microbiology is the same at every school, the only difference is how they teach it or when. Also they said plastinated parts of cadavers, not mannequins. Mannequins are plastic, plastinated or preserved cadavers are from actual humans, they just did the dissection for you. Most of anatomy dissections is wasteful anyways bc you spend a lot of the time clearing fat off organs or clearing away connective tissue so you can get to the real thing you’re looking for. This school is not trying to produce cardiothoracic surgeons, they’re trying to produce PCPs mainly.
 
globaldoc27 said:
I think saying that you won’t be able to relate to or share study materials with students at different schools is a big reach. Microbiology is the same at every school, the only difference is how they teach it or when. Also they said plastinated parts of cadavers, not mannequins. Mannequins are plastic, plastinated or preserved cadavers are from actual humans, they just did the dissection for you. Most of anatomy dissections is wasteful anyways bc you spend a lot of the time clearing fat off organs or clearing away connective tissue so you can get to the real thing you’re looking for. This school is not trying to produce cardiothoracic surgeons, they’re trying to produce PCPs mainly.
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That's a great point and something I didn't think about
 
Does anyone know about how many prematches they said they would be giving out? It might have been mentioned but i can't find it
 
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