2023-2024 UCLA (Geffen)

[goat12]

PRIME-LA and regular MD apps are reviewed at the same time so if you don't get PRIME it doesn't then go to regular MD

wait so if I am rejected from Urban pathway, that means I will be rejected from regular MD as well? this dosent sound right

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[wysdoc]

Guys -
Did you know that UCLA Geffen holds "Virtual office hours" every Wednesday from 11AM to 12 noon Pacific Standard Time (PST) ?
Here's their page How to Apply | UCLA Med School
& scroll down to near the bottom where it says "MD Admissions Virtual Office Hours"

I'll probably create a stampede for next Wednesday's session by posting this link , but it seems to me it would be a great way to get your answers to questions about the admissions process with respect to special programs, directly from the people who know.

 

[Amitten01]

wait so if I am rejected from Urban pathway, that means I will be rejected from regular MD as well? this dosent sound right

You may choose to apply to one of the two pathway programs by completing the related questions section below. Your application will only be considered for the pathway if you receive an offer of admission to either the Traditional MD or Prime-LA program tracks. Please indicate below if you would like to be considered for either the Global Health Equity Pathway or the Urban Health Equity Pathway.

This makes it seem as if you are first considered for traditional MD or Prime-LA and once you are accepted into that, then your application will be forwarded to the urban health program.

 

[FFforM1122]

This is purely speculative but I highly doubt that they screen out all applicants with IA's. I'd be willing to be bet they review the IA to see what it is. Some IA's are really minor and I can't see them screening out otherwise strong applicants for something like a noise violation or having a toaster in your dorm room.

It's possible that they might be stricter than other schools on IA's (no clue whether or not this is the case), but I can't see them indiscriminately screening out all applicants with IA's.

ok, cuz yeah mine is super minor and was reassured by my advisor it wouldnt affect me. so just started becoming neurotic once i heard from the other commentor. hoping the secondary hurries up tho :/ thank you for the info!

 

[FFforM1122]

Well I wouldnt say that forsure! I just know last year they screened people out who had AIs. I would email them if you are die hard for ucla though!!

wouldnt it be too early to wmail them just yet? when should i wait until?

 

[Labe]

wouldnt it be too early to wmail them just yet? when should i wait until?

I don’t think there’s any need to email at all in this situation (including in the future). They’re either going to screen you out or they’re not. I don’t know for sure but based on how little sense it would make, I can almost guarantee they don’t have a filter that automatically screens out all IA’s. Even if they somehow did (which again I can almost guarantee they don’t), they elected to put that policy in place for a reason and I can’t imagine emailing them would help your case. It would probably come off as you begging for a secondary and seeming naggy.

 

[6'0 OGFLYERCI]

wouldnt it be too early to wmail them just yet? when should i wait until?

I think labes advice is good. Don't give up hope! Just be mindful they may take longer since I know they sometimes don't send great applicants secondaries due to IAs

 

[Labe]

I think labes advice is good. Don't give up hope! Just be mindful they may take longer since I know they sometimes don't send great applicants secondaries due to IAs

Agreed! I think if you have a strong app and you're IA is minor, I suspect a secondary will eventually come your way, it might just take longer since they have to go through the details of your app a bit more.

 

[FFforM1122]

Agreed! I think if you have a strong app and you're IA is minor, I suspect a secondary will eventually come your way, it might just take longer since they have to go through the details of your app a bit more.

got it, thank you so much! that makes a lot of sense. really appreciate it

 

[g__23]

I submitted my application and received an email that they received it, but when I look at the document status tab none of my letters are showing. Has anyone else encountered this? My application status has all of the checkmarks.

 

[musicluvr]

For the research question and mentioning the advisor, are we supposed to mention whether we had a mentor or not aside from the advisor? like if we did the scholarly project under a graduate student (i was an undergrad).

 

[BagChaser85]

For the research question and mentioning the advisor, are we supposed to mention whether we had a mentor or not aside from the advisor? like if we did the scholarly project under a graduate student (i was an undergrad).

I didn’t. I just put the PI but stated that I worked with grad students

 

[MinnaK]

Our most meaningful activities don't have to be clinical right? I'm using a clinical experience for the urban health pathway anecdote, but I know this won't be read until later so I'm not too sure if it'll work against me for the ABC responses

^^^ I had the same question? Idk if it's better to just use the clinical for the most meaningful and reuse it for the urban health path or use my nonclinical meaningful activity for the first one if they don't read the urban health path essays until after acceptance.

 

[musicluvr]

^^^ I had the same question? Idk if it's better to just use the clinical for the most meaningful and reuse it for the urban health path or use my nonclinical meaningful activity for the first one if they don't read the urban health path essays until after acceptance.

I didn't end up using my clinical ones! I think the demonstration of wanting to be an "outstanding physician" is evidenced through your W/A descriptions but the "and" is what needs to be explained. So my clinical experiences don't explain the and quite as well as my non-clinical experiences

 

[MoreSerotonin]

Asking for a friend who doesn't use SDN, how strict is UCLA on their deadline policy for submitting secondaries 15 days from the precise time email was sent?

 

[wysdoc]

Asking for a friend who doesn't use SDN, how strict is UCLA on their deadline policy for submitting secondaries 15 days from the precise time email was sent?

Believe the deadline...

 

[TTR228]

Does anyone know if apply for PRIME-LA and wanted to be consider for traditional track as well. Do you interview for PRIME first and if rejected that when the would review your app for Traditional Track? Or can you get an interview for traditional first and then PRIME-LA?

 

[soche]

Does anyone know if apply for PRIME-LA and wanted to be consider for traditional track as well. Do you interview for PRIME first and if rejected that when the would review your app for Traditional Track? Or can you get an interview for traditional first and then PRIME-LA?

I believe that historically, PRIME will hold onto your application until full review is completed, at which point they will add you to the regular MD pool. This is based off friends that are in the program now and also from previous mentors. From a quick reddit search it also seems like others share the same experience.

Does anyone know if the two week deadline for secondaries applies to the letter requirement as well? I have requested they be sent from AMCAs but no updates are made in my portal.

 

[Candyi]

got it, thank you so much! that makes a lot of sense. really appreciate it

Here with IA also still waiting and not giving up hope! We got this!

 

[limoncito]

I believe that historically, PRIME will hold onto your application until full review is completed, at which point they will add you to the regular MD pool. This is based off friends that are in the program now and also from previous mentors. From a quick reddit search it also seems like others share the same experience.

Does anyone know if the two week deadline for secondaries applies to the letter requirement as well? I have requested they be sent from AMCAs but no updates are made in my portal.

That is not true. "Applicants who apply to DGSOM and select the MD-Graduate program option will be screened for both DGSOM and PRIME-LA tracks. If the applicant is acceptable for both DGSOM and PRIME-LA, an offer to interview will be extended. If the applicant is not acceptable for PRIME-LA, they may still be offered an interview for the MD program." They are two separate process.

 

[limoncito]

Verified 2 days ago, submitted on June 23rd. Received Acknowledgement of DGSOM Primary Application today. I haven't taken the MCAT yet so I'm not expecting their secondaries until the next month lol

 

[soche]

That is not true. "Applicants who apply to DGSOM and select the MD-Graduate program option will be screened for both DGSOM and PRIME-LA tracks. If the applicant is acceptable for both DGSOM and PRIME-LA, an offer to interview will be extended. If the applicant is not acceptable for PRIME-LA, they may still be offered an interview for the MD program." They are two separate process.

I stand corrected then, my belief was always via word of mouth!

 

[sparky21]

For the most meaningful volunteer activity one- I have a service activity as most meaningful on my primary. Should I use the same one or find a different one?

 

[KzFor3]

For the most meaningful volunteer activity one- I have a service activity as most meaningful on my primary. Should I use the same one or find a different one?

Since you are elaborating on how your volunteer experience has helped shape your goal of becoming an "Outstanding Physician, AND...," I think it would be appropriate to use the same experience. Just tailor your writing to the question being asked.

 

[nosleeponlyschool]

Is UCLA still sending out secondaries? Still havent received from UCLA or UCSF 🙁

 

[futuremed025]

Is UCLA still sending out secondaries? Still havent received from UCLA or UCSF 🙁

I received my secondary from UCLA on July 29 so I think you should be good! They are probably just sending them out slowly or in batches

 

[aightmanokay]

This has probably been asked here already but I'm taking my PREview on August 16th. Is it pointless to submit a secondary here at that point? I wouldn't be considered complete until September when my scores come out.

 

[limoncito]

This has probably been asked here already but I'm taking my PREview on August 16th. Is it pointless to submit a secondary here at that point? I wouldn't be considered complete until September when my scores come out.

You won't get an interview until they get your score but it doesn't matter for secondaries.

 

[aightmanokay]

You won't get an interview until they get your score but it doesn't matter for secondaries.

Yeah I figured but I was wondering if a September completion date is too late and if it would basically be considered a donation.

 

[ii_manifestation]

Yeah I figured but I was wondering if a September completion date is too late and if it would basically be considered a donation.

Personally, I think if you're taking PREView anyway, might as well send it to UCLA because they're one of the schools where it's a hard requirement. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. But also I have no idea when is considered late for UCLA lol.

 

[limoncito]

Yeah I figured but I was wondering if a September completion date is too late and if it would basically be considered a donation.

Look at the last year thread, they don't care if you submit early or not. They rank their applicants and offer the acceptances to people on top. YES, applying early will help out to be complete but in the end, there were people that had II on November hearing back on December that they got the A, as well as people that got their II on September hearing back on January/February or not even hearing back at all lol.

 

[drak1999]

Looks like exactly a year ago, the first II's were reported. Any predictions for this year?

 

[BattalionX]

Do y'all think an August PREview is too late?

 

[SightlyNickel]

Hey all,
Does MSAR's total number of verified applicants reflect the people who applied or only the people that passed the screening? My stats are in range of UCLA's medians and I ended up passing the screening, so just wondering how high the chances are for an II.
Thanks!

 

[maunmr]

Hey all,
Does MSAR's total number of verified applicants reflect the people who applied or only the people that passed the screening? My stats are in range of UCLA's medians and I ended up passing the screening, so just wondering how high the chances are for an II.
Thanks!

Only the people who submitted a primary application to UCLA. So, even for other schools, the number of students who actually submit the secondary and go into consideration is slightly lower

 

[BagChaser85]

Hey all,
Does MSAR's total number of verified applicants reflect the people who applied or only the people that passed the screening? My stats are in range of UCLA's medians and I ended up passing the screening, so just wondering how high the chances are for an II.
Thanks!

I think it’s based on primaries, but the secondary to II rate is hard to find because they don’t state how many secondaries they send out.

 

[SightlyNickel]

Ok thanks @maunmr and @BagChaser85! I couldn't find an accurate screen rate as well, so guess we will just have to see if we get there.

 

[doctor_tangerine]

Given UCLA's class is 66% disadvantaged and >50% 24+ of age, I doubt the screening is for stats only. Given only thirty or so of their incoming class has taken 1 gap year or less (out of 170), it's clear they prioritize recruitment for disadvantaged non-trads.

 

[adnwastaken]

Given UCLA's class is 66% disadvantaged and >50% 24+ of age, I doubt the screening is for stats only. Given only thirty or so of their incoming class has taken 1 gap year or less (out of 170), it's clear they prioritize recruitment for disadvantaged non-trads.

Source for data? I heard that the % disadvantaged shown on MSAR includes the CDU students into the calculations.

 

[doctor_tangerine]

Source for data? I heard that the % disadvantaged shown on MSAR includes the CDU students into the calculations.

All from MSAR. And are you sure because Drew is a separate school listed on MSAR

 

[SightlyNickel]

Given UCLA's class is 66% disadvantaged and >50% 24+ of age, I doubt the screening is for stats only. Given only thirty or so of their incoming class has taken 1 gap year or less (out of 170), it's clear they prioritize recruitment for disadvantaged non-trads.

Oh well that isn't very encouraging to hear as a 20 year old rising senior in undergrad. Guess we will see how it goes.

 

[adnwastaken]

All from MSAR. And are you sure because Drew is a separate school listed on MSAR

I believe this is the first time it’s data will be listed separately. There used to be like a drew/ucla joint program, but I honestly don’t know too much about it. I sure hope it’s including both though since i’m barely 20😅

 

[doctor_tangerine]

I believe this is the first time it’s data will be listed separately. There used to be like a drew/ucla joint program, but I honestly don’t know too much about it. I sure hope it’s including both though since i’m barely 20😅

No, I definitely get what you're saying. I'm also under 24 and not disadvantaged

 

[BrokenLlamas]

I believe this is the first time it’s data will be listed separately. There used to be like a drew/ucla joint program, but I honestly don’t know too much about it. I sure hope it’s including both though since i’m barely 20😅

Just wanted to confirm that UCLA's MSAR data prior to the inception of CDU's separate program did also include data from the joint CDU/UCLA program (source: participated in a pipeline program at UCLA)

 

[adnwastaken]

Just wanted to confirm that UCLA's MSAR data prior to the inception of CDU's separate program did also include data from the joint CDU/UCLA program (source: participated in a pipeline program at UCLA)

Thanks for the clarification! The average student in the joint program had ~6,000 hours of direct patient care, and average ages were also skewed older. However, classes were only 26 students, so it shouldn't be moving the percentages that much.

 

[wreckurs]

II received just now (OOS) but I can't schedule an interview in the portal??

 

[Pipi&Pomegranate]

II just received! International submitted 7/18

 

[Hazelyn]

II just received! International submitted 7/18

MD?

 

[Pipi&Pomegranate]

MD?

yes

 

[248pinkalicious]

any prime II?