2010-2011 Case Western Reserve University Application Thread

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You see, vc7^4, I prefer the pre-modern Japan state council model:





To each his own, so find a hierarchical system you like, and take up arms in the ranks of Myuu's cohort 👍

I call Sadaijin :ninja:
 
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Thanks for that info auriga, you always give the most thorough and informative responses!

Can you talk a little about the role of the med student interview? Are there many students on the committee? How much of an impact do students have in the interview process / the forming of the school as a whole (i.e. curriculum changes etc.).
 
rejected from UP yesterday, complete 9/14

good luck to the rest of you
 
Regarding our fun-loving nature here, the administration is super interested in our thoughts/perceptions on literally everything. Our feedback helps to affect change even mid-block. They really want us to not only learn as efficiently as possible, but to enjoy our time doing it. We have school-sponsored picnics, dinner parties at our society dean's houses, and a game room on the 4th floor reserved explicitly for the med students. Having tests only once every 11-14 weeks gives you a lot of flexibility in your life. While I obviously have a biased opinion 🙂love🙂, I'll let this video involving some of our SOM deans as exhibit A:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpoq1y-rBAI[/YOUTUBE]

This may or may not have influenced my decision to come to Case 😀.
 
Acoustic said:
Thanks for that info auriga, you always give the most thorough and informative responses!

Can you talk a little about the role of the med student interview? Are there many students on the committee? How much of an impact do students have in the interview process / the forming of the school as a whole (i.e. curriculum changes etc.).
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MWAHAHA you have asked the right person 😀

I am a representative for the Student Committee on Medical Education (SCME). There are 6 reps and a chair elected for each class. Dntpanic is also a rep. She's superhero representing Anatomy/Histo (and I think Block 5, right?)

Just in the last couple of months since elections, I've met with the Associate Dean of Curriculum Dr. Wolpaw like 8 times, as well as with the course manager and curriculum affairs director, and many of the "block leaders" (the faculty responsible for organizing each block). This is a little more than average, but it has to do with the timing of some changes that are underway.

Right now, one of our student teams is working with the entire med school faculty (literally) to do a major overhaul of the "eportal" (the online student interface for our coursework, calendar, assignments, curriculum etc) - which means that we (and you guys) will have a muuuuuch better system starting this summer (hopefully!).

I got roped into creating a new "reflections" committee several weeks ago when I brought up my concerns about the timing of our reflection essays to Dr. Wolpaw. With some brainstorming, this week we came up with an entirely different format. If it works out, that will also hopefully be online by this summer too!

I'm also on the committee for FCM and Block 1. I'll be working with Dr. Frank to hoooooopefully revamp the way the ECU project goes. Anyone in my class will say that's a verrrry good thing. It doesn't affect my class, since we already finished Block 1, but I'm working on it to improve it for future classes. It's focus is Public Health among other things, so it's really important to me. It's like a legacy I can leave behind ^-^ Amg that sounds so cheesy ><

Anyhow you don't have to be in SCME to do these things either. Three other students are on the Reflections committee. One decided he wanted to help out with Block 1 also.

All students are invited to Block Feedback meetings, where they feed you with catered pasta and ask for your opinions on how things are going and what could be done better. I've watched them make changes, so I know they really DO take student feedback to heart!

For anyone with questions about the curriculum, this page has a description of a lot of the pieces: http://casemed.case.edu/curricularaffairs/

👍
 
Biochemist21 said:
I'll let this video involving some of our SOM deans as exhibit A:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpoq1y-rBAI[/YOUTUBE]

This may or may not have influenced my decision to come to Case 😀.
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Omg, I hadn't seen this! Pure win.

Oh, and I'll let Myuu do a discourse on the student interviewers and student admissions reps. She knows much that is hidden.....:ninja:
 
Biochemist21 said:
Regarding our fun-loving nature here, the administration is super interested in our thoughts/perceptions on literally everything. Our feedback helps to affect change even mid-block. They really want us to not only learn as efficiently as possible, but to enjoy our time doing it. We have school-sponsored picnics, dinner parties at our society dean's houses, and a game room on the 4th floor reserved explicitly for the med students. Having tests only once every 11-14 weeks gives you a lot of flexibility in your life. While I obviously have a biased opinion 🙂love🙂, I'll let this video involving some of our SOM deans as exhibit A:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpoq1y-rBAI[/YOUTUBE]

This may or may not have influenced my decision to come to Case 😀.
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Which then linked me to doc opera which is something I'd probably be super involved in if I ended up at case 🙂
 
It's Phonetics Time with your host, Auriga!

Today, we are going to discuss how to pronounce my name.

Auriga is a constellation in the northern sky, an easily visible constituent of the Winter Hexagon. Its name in Latin means "the Charioteer." There are all sorts of neat things about it. Astronomy <3

But anyway, its name is Latin, thus pronunciation of Auriga requires Latin phonetics.

"OH-ree-gah" is close to how I would say it. TBH when speaking, I tend to pronounce it as if it were in Spanish, which is extremely close to the Latin pronunciation.
Also, OWW-ree-gah or oh-RYE-gah are other ways that apparently are acceptable. *shrug*

When I've met some of my classmates who saw me on here, I have heard both ay-YOU-ri-guh and ay-you-RYE-gay which are both, um, nop. ><

nbc_the_more_you_know-784146.jpg

So in summary, now you know what my name and avatar are about. And when you call me out (I guess I'm not super hard to figure out haha), you know how to say it ^_~
 
Haha...nice job folks!

I will speak for the cclcm folks:

We give feeback on EVERY lecture/seminar...we are so involved with our own education that sometimes - when we split into "small" groups and mix up our seminar schedules (small = 8 or 16 people) half on Monday and the other half on Wednesday - they adjust things *mid-week* based on the first group giving feedback. How's THAT for responsiveness?

As far as the assertiom that SDN isn't a fair representation of my class...let it be known that the majority of CCLCM c/o 2015 posted on our thread last year. Literally

These are my peeps. These guys make me proud.
:biglove:

If you got rid of us, you would have no one to answer your questions. Period.

P.S. RE: CCLCM student admissions participation
Students are involved in admissions from EVERY class in both official and non-official capacities. Upperclassmen can even be full-voting members of the CCLCM adcom.



Not sent from my cell phone 😏
 
Sooo, you'd like to know about the student role in the interview process!

The student interview is thirty minutes in length, semi-closed file (we can see your experiences section--that's new this year), and is given the same weight as the faculty interview. It is generally even more relaxed than the faculty interview.👍

And thus ends what I can safely say without accidentally straying too close to our...

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Mostly, we just want to make sure that:
a) you're not insane
and
b) you'd blend/play well with the rest of us

As to eligibility, etc, first years are eligible to interview starting in January of each school year (and do quite frequently after they've been trained properly--because it's fun!). It's super cool to see the class come together piece by piece and be able to say by the time second look/July runs around and to be able "Hey! I hosted/interviewed/gave-a-tour-to/had-IQ-with/talked-in-the-admissions-office-to him/her!" (only without the forward slashes).😀

Hmmmmmmmm other things to tell you, other things to tell you.... uhhhhh.
 
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How much does the interview play a role in the overall decision? Some schools the interview is everything, other it doesn't change much. What about Case?
 
Acoustic said:
How much does the interview play a role in the overall decision? Some schools the interview is everything, other it doesn't change much. What about Case?
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The interview is a pretty big deal here. Let's face it--if you've gotten an interview here, chances are that you are academically qualified, on paper at least, to be here. Interviewing a ton of people, as some have commented on earlier, gives us the luxury of being able to not just gather together a class of decidedly bright cookies, but rather to craft an environment in which people can learn together. Naturally, we want to fill the class with the people we feel would best further that goal.👍
 
Acoustic said:
How much does the interview play a role in the overall decision? Some schools the interview is everything, other it doesn't change much. What about Case?
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I agree 100% with myuu...IMHO CCLCM is very concerned with "fit". I agree too that interviewees are all considered academically gifted and talented researchers, too.


Not sent from my cell phone 😏
 
Rejected 11/19 from CP.. No word from UP yet. I submitted my application really late, I was complete nov 4, that's probably one of the reasons why. Do you guys think I have a chance here this late in the game? I would really really like to go here- love the PBL style and I've had a lot of exposure with it in UG. my stats are 3.7/35
 
Acoustic said:
How much does the interview play a role in the overall decision? Some schools the interview is everything, other it doesn't change much. What about Case?
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The interview is pretty much everything in the overall decision of the committee. Your GPA, MCATs, essays and experiences help get you an interview, the interview itself is what gets you accepted.
 
bettycrocker said:
Rejected 11/19 from CP.. No word from UP yet. I submitted my application really late, I was complete nov 4, that's probably one of the reasons why. Do you guys think I have a chance here this late in the game? I would really really like to go here- love the PBL style and I've had a lot of exposure with it in UG. my stats are 3.7/35
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I wasn't complete until Nov 12. My interview was in January. I definitely was at a disadvantage for most schools, but I'm not sure how it went here. Either way, I'm not the only one in my class who was complete late in the season. Read my timeline: click here

You definitely are still in the running.

Oh and your pies are delicious.
 
iceman77_7 said:
The interview is pretty much everything in the overall decision of the committee. Your GPA, MCATs, essays and experiences help get you an interview, the interview itself is what gets you accepted.
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Hi Iceman!
QFT.
 
If there aren't any grades, is the only determining factor for residencies boards scores?
 
i went to my interview and was told that the decision will be made in 29th this month. i can't wait for the thx giving break to be over! ya ya turkey w/e... bring me the eggplant baby
 
ManUnited87 said:
If there aren't any grades, is the only determining factor for residencies boards scores?
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No. Board scores definitely matter, and probably more if you have P/F clinical grades (which we do at CCLCM). But LORs, the dean's letter, and interviews matter a lot, too. Depending on the specialty, certain ECs like research may also be pretty important.

Speaking from personal experience, having no third year grades has not been much of an issue for me in terms of getting residency interviews. I've been invited for an interview at almost every place where I applied (including the popular/well known programs where everyone wants to go), and only a couple of programs rejected me. When I go to interviews, the interviewers don't generally ask about my lack of grades, at least not so far. A couple of interviewers basically told me that having no grades wasn't an issue based on my LORs and dean's letter. But I took Step 2 early and did well on it, and that probably does help reassure them also.

I have brought up our grading system a few times on my own. Sometimes the interviewer is interested in discussing it and sometimes not. If the interviewer is interested, I will explain how our system is very similar to the evaluation system they are using to evaluate their residents. Which it is.

iceman77_7 said:
Honors/Commendable/Pass/Fail for clinical rotations.
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Just to clarify for the pre-meds, UP does have third year grades. CCLCM doesn't. Neither program has preclinical grades (so the first two years are P/F for both programs).

FlowRate said:
*no PRECLINICAL grades* this is true for almost all P/F schools; it means your clinical grades, LOR's, and board scores matter just a little more. (~10-20% from my reading)
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As long as you don't fail anything, preclinical grades don't really matter at all, unless your school uses them for determining AOA (med school honor society). CCLCM has no AOA, and as far as I know, Case only uses clinical grades to determine AOA for the UP students. But even if your school does have preclinical grades, it's still your Step 1 score that matters to residencies, not what you got in your freshman anatomy class.
 
You're right, CCLCMer, I was thinking of UP only. No grades for CP.
 
I can't believe it but after reading this thread for months, I actually have a question!:idea: I'm graduating early and I was wondering what you would recommend I study with this gift of relatively free time before I begin med school? Histology? Anatomy? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!👍

btw, you guys rock big time, sooooo appreciate the humor and insight!🙂
 
Midfieldrulz said:
I can't believe it but after reading this thread for months, I actually have a question!:idea: I'm graduating early and I was wondering what you would recommend I study with this gift of relatively free time before I begin med school? Histology? Anatomy? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!👍

btw, you guys rock big time, sooooo appreciate the humor and insight!🙂
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Well, if you're already accepted to a place you know you want to go, here's an enormous list things you should definitely, without question study:

Nothing! Pre-studying won't make you any more prepared for a medical curriculum, just more stressed.

If you're still on the interview trail, try something fun that you could maybe talk about if asked.👍
 
Myuu said:
Well, if you're already accepted to a place you know you want to go, here's an enormous list things you should definitely, without question study:

Nothing! Pre-studying won't make you any more prepared for a medical curriculum, just more stressed.

If you're still on the interview trail, try something fun that you could maybe talk about if asked.👍
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Alrighty, drunk in a bar in Mogadishu it is then!:laugh:
 
How far along is case in giving interviews? Any point applying now?
 
vc7777 said:
Please enjoy your life before medical school starts...like Myuu said.
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Consensus!! Eat, drink and be merry it is! Perhaps I'll take a little "light reading" along with me, just in case I get bored. Thanks you guys!
 
smad4 said:
How far along is case in giving interviews? Any point applying now?
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I cannot say to what date(s) interviews are currently being offered (any one out there?). However, the deadline of the 15th exists for a reason and is not arbitrary. You still have a chance of being invited to interview if you meet the deadline. Of course, you have 0% chance if you do not apply. Sorry to be vague. 🙂
 
VC7777 or anyone from CP know if the committee has already met or made any decisions for december's acceptances? I have a big activity update/interest letter and a letter of rec I'd like to send in before they meet, but if they already have I'd prefer to structure it differently.
 
OGMD said:
VC7777 or anyone from CP know if the committee has already met or made any decisions for december's acceptances? I have a big activity update/interest letter and a letter of rec I'd like to send in before they meet, but if they already have I'd prefer to structure it differently.
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To the best of my knowledge they have not yet met for the full committee meeting.

They are very aware that applicants want a timely response. Since I was the first one called last cycle, I can personally say it happened ASAP after the meeting concluded - as in within a day or so.

The Godfather of the thread, Don CCLCMer, and I will personally make sure to keep you guys informed of pending decisions. We will try to give you a heads up to tell you when the calls are going out. Please understand that things may come up but we will try our best to inform you guys.

-vc7777
 
Hi guys i am an applicant this year and i am not sure but is it typical to send thank you notes to our interviewers after an interview? Or does it matter? and if it is, do you guys send an email to your interviewers or mail a card?
 
ipod01 said:
Hi guys i am an applicant this year and i am not sure but is it typical to send thank you notes to our interviewers after an interview? Or does it matter? and if it is, do you guys send an email to your interviewers or mail a card?
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Do whatever is most comfortable for you. It should be done out of common decency, IMHO, not with the expectation of helping your application.

Does it have to be a card? I don't know. Furthermore, unless you have their mailing addresses, you may have to settle for a nice e-mail.

Personally, I sent mostly e-mails. Although, one notable exception was I sent a link to a youtube video of Dilbert. Too long to explain the circumstances...but I should note it couldn't have gone better at that school afterward. Thanks, Dilbert!
 
ipod01 said:
Hi guys i am an applicant this year and i am not sure but is it typical to send thank you notes to our interviewers after an interview? Or does it matter? and if it is, do you guys send an email to your interviewers or mail a card?
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Makes no difference. Interview feedback is uploaded before they'll get the thank you card/letter from the admissions office. Has absolutely no bearing on your application, at least at Case.
 
CCLCMer said:
No. Board scores definitely matter, and probably more if you have P/F clinical grades (which we do at CCLCM). But LORs, the dean's letter, and interviews matter a lot, too. Depending on the specialty, certain ECs like research may also be pretty important.

Just to clarify for the pre-meds, UP does have third year grades. CCLCM doesn't. Neither program has preclinical grades (so the first two years are P/F for both programs).

As long as you don't fail anything, preclinical grades don't really matter at all, unless your school uses them for determining AOA (med school honor society). CCLCM has no AOA, and as far as I know, Case only uses clinical grades to determine AOA for the UP students. But even if your school does have preclinical grades, it's still your Step 1 score that matters to residencies, not what you got in your freshman anatomy class.
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(to clarify, that's what I meant, the preclin grades don't matter so other stuff makes up for that ~10-20% of your app, but thanks for adding more info that I hadn't considered 🙂)
 
vc7777 said:
To the best of my knowledge they have not yet met for the full committee meeting.

They are very aware that applicants want a timely response. Since I was the first one called last cycle, I can personally say it happened ASAP after the meeting concluded - as in within a day or so.

The Godfather of the thread, Don CCLCMer, and I will personally make sure to keep you guys informed of pending decisions. We will try to give you a heads up to tell you when the calls are going out. Please understand that things may come up but we will try our best to inform you guys.

-vc7777
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I, potentially and hopefully, very much look forward to that day.
 
Midfieldrulz said:
I can't believe it but after reading this thread for months, I actually have a question!:idea: I'm graduating early and I was wondering what you would recommend I study with this gift of relatively free time before I begin med school? Histology? Anatomy? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!👍
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Just in case the underclassmen haven't already beaten you up enough about this, do NOT spend the next few months studying! I'm not sure about going to Mogadishu either though. Somalia is a very dangerous country these days. How about Tahiti? Or Australia? Or hell, even Antarctica? You could probably trek across the continent for the next few months, which would give you a really cool story to talk about at your orientation. Make sure to have a photo taken of yourself at the South Pole. Word is that there is literally a pole there.

southpole.jpg


If you do go, make sure to bring an eggplant so we'll know it's really you. It will be the world's first eggpole. 👍

OGMD said:
VC7777 or anyone from CP know if the committee has already met or made any decisions for december's acceptances? I have a big activity update/interest letter and a letter of rec I'd like to send in before they meet, but if they already have I'd prefer to structure it differently.
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They will not have the subcommittee meeting where acceptances are given until mid-December. But they HAVE met to rank your app once already. These are the meetings they have every two weeks.

vc7777 said:
The Godfather of the thread, Don CCLCMer, and I will personally make sure to keep you guys informed of pending decisions. We will try to give you a heads up to tell you when the calls are going out. Please understand that things may come up but we will try our best to inform you guys.
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Since I will be away on interviews that week, I am hereby delegating this solemn duty to you, vc7777. I now dub thee....guardian of the holy CCLCM subcommittee grail. Protect these precious CCLCM acceptances with your life if necessary.

ipod01 said:
Hi guys i am an applicant this year and i am not sure but is it typical to send thank you notes to our interviewers after an interview? Or does it matter? and if it is, do you guys send an email to your interviewers or mail a card?
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I basically agree with the others about this. It's the polite thing to do, but it's not necessary, and it doesn't matter if you send an email or a card. It won't affect your app whether you do it or not. Just don't tell your interviewers that their moms wear army boots or put a dead rat in the envelope or anything, and you'll be fine.
 
Sending a thank-you letter is nice.

Alhough it (thx for clarifying Iceman!) has no bearing on your admissions decision, do remember that if/when you become a student here,
1. the student interviewer will be your upperclassman and 2. the faculty interviewer will be a professor, or adviser, or even dean.

Therefore, sending a thank-you letter is also good people skills.

I send a card to my faculty interviewer (to be old-school about it) and an email to my student interviewer (because I'd rather get an email!). My student interviewer hugged me when she saw me this year 😍
 
smad4 said:
How far along is case in giving interviews? Any point applying now?
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I don't know the deadline, but a deadline is there because they still accept apps until that date. vc77777777 said it well - not applying is a zero chance. My secondary wasn't complete until Nov 12. I think we're nearing the end, so give it a shot if your heart's in it. Later is a disadvantage at any school with rolling admissions, but there is still a LOOOOOT of interview cycle time left until March 😉
 
Just got an interview for the University Track program!!

Scheduled early January.

Just wondering, is this date "late" as far as the rolling admission goes?
 
Medhatter said:
Just got an interview for the University Track program!!

Scheduled early January.

Just wondering, is this date "late" as far as the rolling admission goes?
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I don't think it's "late" for Case, rolling admissions or not. I think once you have an interview, rolling admissions is virtually non-existent for Case.

FYI, that date range has been available since mid October, where I imagine since then it's been fluctuating with availability due to cancellations, if that means anything.
 
Medhatter said:
Just got an interview for the University Track program!!

Scheduled early January.

Just wondering, is this date "late" as far as the rolling admission goes?
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I interviewed then too ^_^
It's a little later in the season, but they started in Sept and continue through (the end of Feb I think?) so they hold on to plenty of admissions for the later interviews! They are choosy and take lots of time to make sure they find what they want.
 
Medhatter said:
Just got an interview for the University Track program!!

Scheduled early January.

Just wondering, is this date "late" as far as the rolling admission goes?
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Nah, there are plenty of people who intereviewed in January and got in. We stop interviewing at the end of February, though. So, while we are rolling, the number of acceptances we have to left to give will be dwindling.

Acoustic said:
I don't think it's "late" for Case, rolling admissions or not. I think once you have an interview, rolling admissions is virtually non-existent for Case.
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I think maybe you misunderstand rolling admissions. Rolling admissions means that we give out acceptances throughout the year, rather than on a single terrifying/nervewracking/magical(?) day at the end of the cycle. Granted, if you were on post-interview hold, I can imagine how it might feel that way.
 
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