2010-2011 Case Western Reserve University Application Thread

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I haven't heard back yet either.

But if I was a jerk, I might say otherwise.


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Accepted!!!! I wish everyone the best of luck!
 
Congrats to those accepted!

Has anyone been accepted after being placed on post-interview hold yet? Does anyone know if on-hold apps are continually reviewed, or reviewed later on in the spring?
 
OMG! Did you all get emails first? I keep refreshing my email and status pages like every 3 minutes. I really need to do something else🙁
 
daniellef07 said:
OMG! Did you all get emails first? I keep refreshing my email and status pages like every 3 minutes. I really need to do something else🙁
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3 minutes? That's some self-control! 3 seconds here lol
 
Acoustic said:
3 minutes? That's some self-control! 3 seconds here lol
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:laugh::laugh: I'm hibernating my computer and watching a couple of episodes of House. Hopefully my status will be ACCEPTED when I get back. Good luck to everyone!
 
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:laugh::laugh: I'm hibernating my computer and watching a couple of episodes of House. Hopefully my status will be ACCEPTED when I get back. Good luck to everyone!
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Time for me to turn off my computer as well. Now I am going to head to the ice rink to blow off some steam! 😡 Myuu- I know you will appreciate this one.
 
So I checked again:laugh: but I'm on hold. Better than a rejection so I will keep hope alive!
 
On Hold. Well Case, I hope your University Hospital continues to suffer declining revenues and wade lagoon gets infected with piranhas. +pissed+

Well I got an interview tomorrow, so happy thoughts for now.
 
Dr Love said:
On Hold. Well Case, I hope your University Hospital continues to suffer declining revenues and wade lagoon gets infected with piranhas. +pissed+

Well I got an interview tomorrow, so happy thoughts for now.
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I hope you get some good news. I know there was one SDN member who was put on hold, he/she wrote a letter of intent and was accepted the next time the committee met. Hopefully something similar can happen for those who really think Case is the right place for them.
 
Dr Love said:
On Hold. Well Case, I hope your University Hospital continues to suffer declining revenues and wade lagoon gets infected with piranhas. +pissed+

Well I got an interview tomorrow, so happy thoughts for now.
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That'd make me think twice--ok, thrice--input walking out on Wade Lagoon again...
 
Signe said:
I hope you get some good news. I know there was one SDN member who was put on hold, he/she wrote a letter of intent and was accepted the next time the committee met. Hopefully something similar can happen for those who really think Case is the right place for them.
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Thanks for the advice. I might send an update letter, but I think a letter of intent would be dishonest for me. Regardless of what happens with my application though, I still hope Wade Lagoon is infected with piranhas.

BTW, does anyone know how often the committee meets?
 
Hey all,
I was also put on hold. I have an interesting dilemma in that I am getting married in the summer, and my fiance (business major) needs time to find a job in whatever city I end up in. I would like to go to case if accepted, but if I get accepted in May, I probably won't be able to at that point.
Should I send a letter to the adcom expressing my desire to be looked at again more definitively, earlier? I know that this decreases my overall chances, but I feel like it may increase my chance of actually being able to go there.
Thanks everyone, and congrats to everyone who was accepted!
 
Congrats to everyone who got accepted! Hope to meet some of you at second look.
 
Dr Love said:
Thanks for the advice. I might send an update letter, but I think a letter of intent would be dishonest for me. Regardless of what happens with my application though, I still hope Wade Lagoon is infected with piranhas.

BTW, does anyone know how often the committee meets?
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Every two weeks on Tuesday. Furthermore, no one swims in Wade Lagoon, so there's no point.:lame:

Envix said:
Hey all,
I was also put on hold. I have an interesting dilemma in that I am getting married in the summer, and my fiance (business major) needs time to find a job in whatever city I end up in. I would like to go to case if accepted, but if I get accepted in May, I probably won't be able to at that point.
Should I send a letter to the adcom expressing my desire to be looked at again more definitively, earlier? I know that this decreases my overall chances, but I feel like it may increase my chance of actually being able to go there.
Thanks everyone, and congrats to everyone who was accepted!
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A number of people have been successful with letter writing campaigns in the past. All depends on how you convincing you are.:luck:

So, to all you people who were put on hold, don't give up! We reevaluate those files at the end of the cycle (which is approaching very quickly).:luck::xf:
 
Myuu said:
Every two weeks on Tuesday. Furthermore, no one swims in Wade Lagoon, so there's no point.:lame:
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Thanks for the answer, but I think you are getting too caught up in the details and not focusing on the sentiment behind my statement - which was only that I wanted to see more faunal diversity at Case. Fauna.
 
First of all, congrats to those just accepted!

Secondly, I have a couple of questions for people currently at Case or CCLCM, since there will be some overlap for this topic: The Clinical Years. It would be awesome to get some 3rd of 4th years in on this, but any thoughts are welcome.

So in another thread (don't worry I am no traitor, Case is way up there for me), someone reposted this interesting bit from a 4th year (presumably NOT at Case). I was wondering if anyone could respond to any of these ideas or questions below about the clinical years.

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I am currently in my 4th year of medical school. I am here to say that most of what people allow to weigh in on their decision to attend medical school is pretty irrelevant. I base this statement on 1) what I took into consideration 2) what other people I met on the trail into consideration 3) talking to prospective applicants 4) discussions with fellow classmates. This is in large part because most information about schools comes from is from first year students, who really have no idea of what the school is like, sales angles of schools attempting to reel in students etc, and random discussions from people who don't know much more than you do.

What is not important:

1) Impression of students: this is bogus, totally bogus. Every school has a fairly similar mix of a few types and if you think you can tell what students are like by meeting the tour guide and 3 other people you are fooling yourself.

A) Gunners- Every american medical school has gunners. Furthermore, your interview process will not allow you to prove or disprove my theory, as these people generally aren't doing interviews. Also don't let anyone tell you that theres no competition at their school because there is always someone who wants to do ortho at the hosp for special surgery, even at DO schools.

Moreover if you are really worried about dodging the "Gunners" then 90% chance that you are one....my observational experience

B) Slackers- These are the real people I'd be worried about: they tend not to show up to stuff and make everyone look bad.

C) Superstars- Every school has these, good schools have a few more.

D) Everyone else (prob 45-60% of a class)

2) Curriculum- Guys I hear this a lot and read this on this board alot....looking back I thought this was a big deal, now I say "who really cares." Here's my breakdown of the issue

A) PBL- you have no background to base your case based learning on...and will not have it until year 2 and probably 1/2 through that (when you start organ system pathology/pathophys). Really how can you expect someone to understand CHF related fluid retention with no prior knowledge of renin-angiotensin and the kidneys...silly

B) lectures vs no lectures- For all practical purposes, you are going to teach your damn selves 90% of the first 2 years.
The reason for this is that most of the first two years really is vocab and getting your mind around a few key concepts so that third year you can actually understand what your residents and attendings are saying. So despite all the hype about new novel ways of learning it boils down to you hanging out with Robbins pathology, a microscope/online slides and a cadaver and figuring it out.

As far as clinical relevant knowledge year 1-2 is more or less the about the same, deal with it. I say this coming from an Ivy so trust me.

3) Quality of facilities- Theres three reasons why this is pretty irrelevant
A) they never show you all the facilities-

B) Does learning in an old building really impact your education

C) When you're trudging in the snow at 4 am to rounds on surgery are you really going to notice or care what the outside of the hospital looks like......highly doubtful

4) extracurricular/social stuff- This is +/-. If you have a passion for playing the violin...can't live without it and are willing to do it despite significant other time committments..this can be a plus

however, do not get the false impression that a medical school class remains this cohesive bunch of social butterflies for 4 years. Generally, everyone is very busy and alot of people are overwhelmed. The attendance at class events dropped preciptiously year 2.

5) early patient contact- I think this is a total sales pitch: To provide an anecdote: It was january of my second year. we were in our physical diagnosis class, having our first group interview with a patient with renal failure and volume overload causing CHF.

so the encounter goes like this.....

A classmate "so what brings you to the hospital today"
patient: "I am having a tough time breathing, it feels like im drowning when I lie flat"
Classmate "that sounds bad"

long silence.

This classmate was a smart guy and ended up being AOA and this was 1 1/2 years into medical school.....

so if thats 2nd year what are you really going to do interviewing patients 1st year.......basically acquire bad habits that you will need to fix later in life. Is it a total waste? no. However do not make this any more than a minor consideration.


Things that are important

1) What is the 3rd year like and how is it structured?:

I almost never hear any real questions or comment from applicants regarding this topic. In the end this is the only real difference between schools, and probably could be the only real question to ask? more specific questions?

a) How are the rotations structured? What is your role on the wards? Do you have a clear role Do you get your "hands dirty" alot, or is it alot of shadowing? This is very important. You really don't learn much by watching people do stuff and if they work you down to a minimal role you will not gain much experience and will suck for several months into internship.

Now I'm not saying you demand the right to cross clamp the aorta during a CABG, but medicine is not a spectator sport and if the school doesn't have a culture of teaching (i.e. alot of patients are private patients, medical students aren't allowed to do anything) it will be a long, boring 3rd year.


2) Where do 3rd year evaluations come from?

Alot of people go in with this attitude "I am here to learn not to get grades." I agree with this attitude 85%. However, using that attitude indiscriminantly is impractical and can lead to some evaulations that you are not too happy with, it happens

You probably can't please everyone equally. This is especially true on surgery and medicine where there is not enough hours in the day.

Thus, the recommendation I make to everyone is to figure out roughly who writes the evaluation and what they expect and make sure you do a really good job on that. I do not recommend kissing up....However, it is really easy at times to get caught up in "which 5 minute presentation do I spend preparing for tomorrow. " This is why if you know who is grading you you can prioritize which person you pull the NEJM articles out for, and who gets the 15 minute before cram session off up-to-date.

Understand however while this happens at all schools (its how the beast works) not all schools do a reasonable job at making this fair or letting you know who is grading you or what you are supposed to do. Thus you should really make an effort to ask questions such as for every rotation do you have an attending directly responsible for evaluating you, or a preceptor (someone not taking care of patients that you are caring for who evaluates your academic abilities and analytic abilities? ideally your grade should come roughly equally from both.

3) Where do the students end up? If you dont want to do primary care, and 75% of school X does. Guess what, you are signing up for 15 weeks of primary care rotations at that school. Conversely, if you want to do general internal medicine or family medicine....and you come to a school that puts out 25 orthopods and 10 neurosurgeons a year.....you will spend alot of time learning about surgeries that you will never perform in your life.


4) How are medical students protected from scut?

If they cannot give you a real answer to this question expect to learn alot about running bloods to the lab and wheeling patients to the CT scanner and very little about managing an MI.

Some schools do a good job of setting up systems to prevent this, however I have also met interns who told me that they failed the surgery shelf because their school was rampant with scut and they didn't learn anything. I think my school did a very good job at scut control, however I have wheeled my share of patients to CT at 2 am.

5) How receptive is the administation to fixing problems and/or disciplining out of line behavior, espcially from residents?

trust me when you have an ID class where the course director is terrible, you will really appreciate it when a new course director is hired the next year.

6) how is the research opportunities at this school?

If you want to end up at an academic program, there will come a time when you will seek papers and if they are not there to be written then you will understand the meaning of this question. If not then forget I mentioned this.

7) how good is this school at focusing on the bread and butter?

This is especially relevant if you are looking at an academic powerhouse type place. Typically alot of times you will find that big tertiary centers tend to be filled with people who A) study esoteric diseases, B) specialize in highly uncommon or speciallized surgeries or diagnostic tests, or C) only doing big commando surgeries on cases people in the community looked at and said no way im touching that.

This is something you may be interested in as an attending or at the end of your residency. However in medical school most of these areas will not be your field and learning the literature on steroid tapers for patients with the CREST syndrome, the signs and symptoms of spinocerebellar ataxia 8 or how to resect a pseudomyxoma peritonei is probably not the best use of time in your only exposure to the area. Its easy to get caught up in that stuff, however good schools recognize the nature of the academic beast and try to make sure that you leave knowing the stages of active labor, how to read an EKG and how to manage childhood asthma.

I hope this helps
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I don't agree with parts of this post, and I am not posting this because I have any negative impressions of Case. Quite the contrary, the students seem to be pretty thrilled with their opportunities during the clinical years (many hospitals/clinics versus ONE medical school, for example). At the same time, it would be great to hear a little about how performance is evaluated in the 3rd and 4th years, how medical students are treated and what they are allowed to do hands-on, what are the differences in experience at some of the hospitals, etc. Thanks so much if you made it through this giant wall of text.
 
Myuu said:
Every two weeks on Tuesday. Furthermore, no one swims in Wade Lagoon, so there's no point.:lame:
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Committee meets every other Monday.

SoupForYou said:
I don't agree with parts of this post, and I am not posting this because I have any negative impressions of Case. Quite the contrary, the students seem to be pretty thrilled with their opportunities during the clinical years (many hospitals/clinics versus ONE medical school, for example). At the same time, it would be great to hear a little about how performance is evaluated in the 3rd and 4th years, how medical students are treated and what they are allowed to do hands-on, what are the differences in experience at some of the hospitals, etc. Thanks so much if you made it through this giant wall of text.
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Fourth year going into a competitive specialty here. It's tough to compare how we're treated as med students compared to other students since there's no real basis for comparison, but I would say we're treated very well. You're going to have to do scut work no matter where you go for medical school. That's the nature of medical school. I've never really been scutted that badly. I actually volunteer for things like buying food for people, because I get a free meal in the process! IN reading the post above, I guess they want more detail. I've never rolled a patient anywhere, I've never run labs anywhere. I have dropped off notes in charts to make rounds go faster, I have taken medically relevant things to various places in the interest of saving time.

There's great variation from case to case of course, but I've had a fairly hands on education. Among the things I've done: an entire orthopedic case from skin to skin, delivered babies (yawn), "catch" the gallbladder on a laparoscopic case, first assist on a hernia repair, drive the laparoscope on multiple occasions, LPs, chest compressions, intubations, IVs, and the list goes on.

Evaluation during 3rd and 4th year is pretty subjective. A large component is your clinical grade, based on feedback from residents and attendings, another component is shelf exam scores. I would say the large majority of students get commendables, a sizeable minority receive honors, the rest pass.

Experiences at different hospitals: from what I've heard and experienced, Metro is the most hands on (that's where almost all of the experiences I listed above occurred). I also did rotations at UH and they're pretty good about letting you do stuff as well. I can't speak for CCF, but my completely biased, uninformed opinion is that they're a little less willing to let you do the things I've listed.
 
I have a lot to say about that. Let me first bask in the fact that my exams are DoNEEEeEeeeEeE :zip::zip:and that the monkey that is biochem is no longer on my back pulling my hair and kicking me with spurs. Then I will regale you with some of what he says about yrs one and two are not quite right and some things that are reasonably correct. Edit: I will preface this with the obvious statement that I am a first year and thus will barely comment on the thirdfourth year stuff, which is why you posted it in the first place, I recognize 😉
 
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First of all, congrats to those just accepted!

Secondly, I have a couple of questions for people currently at Case or CCLCM, since there will be some overlap for this topic: The Clinical Years. It would be awesome to get some 3rd of 4th years in on this, but any thoughts are welcome.
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Well, seeing as I'm the only other post-clinical poster to this thread, I guess that'd be me.

So in another thread (don't worry I am no traitor, Case is way up there for me), someone reposted this interesting bit from a 4th year (presumably NOT at Case). I was wondering if anyone could respond to any of these ideas or questions below about the clinical years.
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I'd be happy to answer your questions, yes.

I don't agree with parts of this post, and I am not posting this because I have any negative impressions of Case. Quite the contrary, the students seem to be pretty thrilled with their opportunities during the clinical years (many hospitals/clinics versus ONE medical school, for example). At the same time, it would be great to hear a little about how performance is evaluated in the 3rd and 4th years, how medical students are treated and what they are allowed to do hands-on, what are the differences in experience at some of the hospitals, etc. Thanks so much if you made it through this giant wall of text.
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You don't have to apologize for asking these questions. They're all entirely reasonable.

How grades work depends on which program you attend. Case UP clinical grades are pretty similar to most other schools. They use an H/HP/P/F system, and they take shelf exams. The shelfs are included in their final grade. Clinical evals from attendings and residents are also included in their final grade. CCLCM clinical grades are P/F. We can take the shelfs if we want to, but it isn't required, and if we do take them, they don't count. So our grades are based entirely on resident and faculty evals.

Evals are based upon the nine competencies that we are expected to achieve, and there are specific standards for each competency. Evaluators are given space to comment about your strengths and weaknesses for each competency, and they are given a list of all the standards for each competency so that they have a specific list of things that the school is looking for. The quality of evals definitely varies by site. At one extreme, CCF's evals are copious and usually very detailed, since they know we use them as our source of grading. At the other sites where I rotated, faculty and residents sometimes didn't give intra-rotation evals at all unless I badgered them quite a bit first, and the evals were less detailed. It helped if I told the evaluator ahead of time that my entire grade depended on evals, and also if I told them that they did not need to fill out every box on the form!

With the exception of OB/gyn (fairly universally reviled rotation at this med school and many others), I have no complaint about how I was treated on any rotation. The vast majority of attendings and residents are respectful of medical students. Of course some are more into teaching than others, but Case/CCF have rules in place to prevent medical student abuse. If anything, we are better protected from being scutted out than the interns are. Like iceman, I would often volunteer to help with scut to help out the team, but it was not expected, and sometimes I even had to convince the residents to let me do it. Also, the 80 hour work week rule for residents is applied to medical students. There were not very many rotations (exceptions being surgery, gyn, and medicine) where I came anywhere close to working that many hours.

My experience was that how much students get to do varies depending on your attending/team, the rotation itself, and also on how assertive you are about getting involved, but was only weakly dependent on rotation site. Rotation duties varied widely. I didn't get to do nearly as much on peds and psych as I did on surgery and EM. I think peds people in general tend to be more cautious about having med students take care of patients. Psych has many limits on what you can do for obvious reasons.

Conversely, I did tons of procedures on surgery, EM, and even IM. FWIW, as someone who did many of my required rotations at CCF but also did several rotations at UH and the VA, I strongly disagree with iceman's admittedly uninformed bias about how much students get to do at CCF. In particular, my surgery experience (at CCF) went way beyond the normal level of hands-on. I was usually second assist on my primary team (and occasionally even first assist), and I made the incision the very first time I scrubbed in. I took Q4 call on IM with the team--not voluntarily, I must admit, but it meant that I got to do a lot of things that would have been done by a resident during the day. The residents and fellows would often let me have first crack at the procedure, and they would only take over if I couldn't get it.

As far as I'm concerned, the clinical education we get at Case is strong, and my overall experience as a student here has been very positive. I would still choose CCLCM if I had the last five years to do over again.
 
I know that you posted this with the main goal of getting info about 3rd and 4th year, but I wanted to comment on his statements about yr 1 and 2. I definitely recognize you don't necessarily agree with what he said. But I want to comment on his assertions.
2) Curriculum- Guys I hear this a lot and read this on this board alot....looking back I thought this was a big deal, now I say "who really cares." Here's my breakdown of the issue

A) PBL- you have no background to base your case based learning on...and will not have it until year 2 and probably 1/2 through that (when you start organ system pathology/pathophys). Really how can you expect someone to understand CHF related fluid retention with no prior knowledge of renin-angiotensin and the kidneys...silly
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B) lectures vs no lectures- For all practical purposes, you are going to teach your damn selves 90% of the first 2 years.
The reason for this is that most of the first two years really is vocab and getting your mind around a few key concepts so that third year you can actually understand what your residents and attendings are saying. So despite all the hype about new novel ways of learning it boils down to you hanging out with Robbins pathology, a microscope/online slides and a cadaver and figuring it out.

As far as clinical relevant knowledge year 1-2 is more or less the about the same, deal with it. I say this coming from an Ivy so trust me.
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My two cents: I disagree. That's not the point - PBL isn't about diagnosis, it's about the process and how to frame the material. Seeing clinical relevance in a patient case example helps cement the physiology/pathology/pharmacology/everythingology more, at least for me. I find it to be a very effective way of learning. And I knew that before I decided for which schools to apply. That's a very important consideration. He may be a bit far removed from the process of learning this massive amount of science.
I have a 2 year clinical background (albeit super limited in scope of practice) and can vouch for the value of having been exposed to something, even if just once, and getting involved in the patient interaction, even if just a little. When learning things that are related to those conditions, it makes it more clear.

Some people hate the first two years of medical school. The material is f'ing intense. It's two years of intense studying. Yeah, anywhere you go, you'll spend a lot of time along studying. How do you want to spend it? What will make it easier for you to nail it? And actually, Case's schedule makes that much more manageable than most schools 😉

Also btw introduction of PBL increased board scores at Case and at multiple other schools, studies have shown its effectiveness - that is why schools are adopting it. A new medical school opening in New York City is adopting our curriculum style after interviewing 30 schools over the last 5-10 years. I was invited to their planning session when they requested student representatives for input on our viewpoints.

Additionally, some Ivy's are a little mmm resistant to advancing/changing their curriculum style, so I wouldn't wave Ivy around as the standard of education. It had no bearing on my choice of where to go.

Yes gunners, yes slackers, etc etc and he's right there are those everywhere. I was surprised how few of them I see in my class, but that won't necessarily emerge fully until we're in rotations if people get competitive. I can't speak to that. But the atmosphere here is priceless. People share everything. I have several copies of different study guides classmates made. Dntpanic and Musictomed yesterday took the time to teach me the urea cycle 4 times until it clicked, the night before the exam. I did the same for them with something GI related. People might be awesome like that at every school, but from other students and physicians I've talked with (lots), that's not how it was at all schools.

I am thrilled about how I am spending these 2 years. That makes a world of difference to me. We'll see how 3rd and 4th year go - I imagine we all start out on the same page for most schools in level of preparedness, with a margin of variation. But what I was most freaked out about when starting med school was grinding through the first two years of hardcore phys/path/anat/histo/etc. I'm glad I used the criteria I did to decide.
 
Hello All!
I interviewed at CCLCM on January 6th and have not received any contact since then. Has anyone interviewed since then and received any sort of decision?

Thanks
 
🙁 waitlisted. Anyone know my chances on getting off the waitlist or how it works at Case? This was by far my favorite school interviewing at not just because the curriculum is my style, but the students actually have personalities... not something I can say of some of the other schools I've interviewed at.
 
CharlieDay said:
Hello All!
I interviewed at CCLCM on January 6th and have not received any contact since then. Has anyone interviewed since then and received any sort of decision?

Thanks
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I interviewed Dec 9th and haven't heard anything yet. From what I remember reading in this thread I think they make their next round of decisions around Feb 15th.
 
Dr Love said:
Thanks for the answer, but I think you are getting too caught up in the details and not focusing on the sentiment behind my statement - which was only that I wanted to see more faunal diversity at Case. Fauna.
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One of my favorite quotes of the year so far. The word fauna is far underutilized. Bravo, my friend.
Dr Love said:
On Hold. Well Case, I hope your University Hospital continues to suffer declining revenues and wade lagoon gets infected with piranhas. +pissed+

Well I got an interview tomorrow, so happy thoughts for now.
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DocB1011 said:
🙁 waitlisted. Anyone know my chances on getting off the waitlist or how it works at Case? This was by far my favorite school interviewing at not just because the curriculum is my style, but the students actually have personalities... not something I can say of some of the other schools I've interviewed at.
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EDIT: Put on Hold
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daniellef07 said:
So I checked again :laugh: but I'm on hold. Better than a rejection so I will keep hope alive!
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Envix said:
Hey all,
I was also put on hold. I have an interesting dilemma in that I am getting married in the summer, and my fiance (business major) needs time to find a job in whatever city I end up in. I would like to go to case if accepted, but if I get accepted in May, I probably won't be able to at that point.
Should I send a letter to the adcom expressing my desire to be looked at again more definitively, earlier? I know that this decreases my overall chances, but I feel like it may increase my chance of actually being able to go there.
Thanks everyone, and congrats to everyone who was accepted!
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As for the holdees, take heart. We former holdees can speak to the fact that there is light at the end of many tunnels. I am certain of the fact that the letters are definitely read and taken into consideration. I have no idea of how much influence it actually has, but I know for sure they genuinely read them.
 
And now, a look into the arts. From the portfolio of the virtuoso pen-wielding artsian known as Myuu, I gift you this rendition of the corner of Euclid and Mayfield:
MudkipzAtCase.jpg
 
. . .

The suspect line there refers to West 6th and not the myriad other sites along Euclid, which is to say not-CCLCM, in accordance with below well-known video:

[youtube]ysmLA5TqbIY[/youtube]
 
Interview invite today for UT! Complete in August, so it's def been a long time! There were many dates in Feb, so don't worry for those still waiting!
 
Myuu said:
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The suspect line there refers to West 6th and not the myriad other sites along Euclid, which is to say not-CCLCM, in accordance with below well-known video:

[YOUTUBE]ysmLA5TqbIY[/YOUTUBE]
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I'm not sure why these people don't advertise for themselves on their video. It's Last Call Cleveland, and they're a pretty good sketch comedy troupe here. See more of their stuff here - http://www.youtube.com/user/lastcallcleveland . Better yet, see them live. They're awesome.
 
Interview invite for University Track!!!

I wish CT had invited me around the same time as UT. I could have saved a TON of money. Oh well. I'm pumped 🙂
 
Hey Myuu!! They're giving away free falafel at the Falafel Cafe. You better get over there right away!!!🙂
 
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