2011-2012 Tufts Maine Track Application Thread

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Are we waiting until May 15, or might we hear something before then?

I think the general consensus is that anyone on the WL is going to have to wait until May 15th and beyond for some sort of resolution.

I'm not sure, but I think that if you are on the WL and it's the first day of orientation / first day of classes, you are rejected. Does anyone know if Tufts will send an official rejection letter at the very end of the cycle, or are you left with a silent rejection? Can you be rejected before thenn (let's say they want to narrow down the WL in July), or do you stay on the WL no matter what?
 
I haven't even been wait listed yet. In fact, I've had no communication from them regarding my application status since the middle of Feb, when they sent me a letter saying they deferred the decision on my application.

Regarding the wait list, Tufts' website says that anyone still holding wait-list spot after the class matriculates, receives notification saying the application cycle has ended for that year (ie you're rejected). If I remember correctly, when I interviewed, they told us that one person had been admitted the day after classes started because someone failed to show up.

Other medical schools' websites (not Tufts') indicate that when WL spots become available, all the applicants on the list are considered eligible for admission, and are all re-evaluated at that time. (i.e no wait list ranking etc). I don't know how Tufts addresses this issue though.
 
I haven't even been wait listed yet. In fact, I've had no communication from them regarding my application status since the middle of Feb, when they sent me a letter saying they deferred the decision on my application.

Regarding the wait list, Tufts' website says that anyone still holding wait-list spot after the class matriculates, receives notification saying the application cycle has ended for that year (ie you're rejected). If I remember correctly, when I interviewed, they told us that one person had been admitted the day after classes started because someone failed to show up.

Other medical schools' websites (not Tufts') indicate that when WL spots become available, all the applicants on the list are considered eligible for admission, and are all re-evaluated at that time. (i.e no wait list ranking etc). I don't know how Tufts addresses this issue though.

I believe that if you were deferred, you are now on the wait list. The deferred decision list essentially becomes the wait list once interviews are over. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

So, I don't think you should expect to get any kind of updates unless you are accepted off the WL or rejected at the end of the cycle.

As far as everyone being re-evaluated at the same time, I'm not sure if that's true in reality. They have demographic "quotas" I guess you could say... basically, they are trying to maintain a diverse class.
 
I believe that if you were deferred, you are now on the wait list. The deferred decision list essentially becomes the wait list once interviews are over. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

So, I don't think you should expect to get any kind of updates unless you are accepted off the WL or rejected at the end of the cycle.

As far as everyone being re-evaluated at the same time, I'm not sure if that's true in reality. They have demographic "quotas" I guess you could say... basically, they are trying to maintain a diverse class.

You may not be wrong about the wait list but I also don't know where you picked that up (even though you're obviously functionally correct!). I haven't read or been told by any Tufts officials that you are automatically waitlisted once interview season is over. In fact, the deferred email says, ".A final decision will be reached at any time between now and the end of May.". That makes me think that we will all hear something in May regardless: accept, reject, or formal waitlist at that time.

They've been careful to dwell on the fact that a deferred decision is NOT a waitlist, which I'm well aware is true only because the word "active" isn't front of "waitlist" in their verbiage. Since we're dealing with semantics here, I think that we can assume we're still "deferred" (aka "active waitlist" by any layperson's perspective) until they tell us otherwise...by the end of May, according to their email.

As far as ranked wait lists/how they select are concerned, check out their website - 2nd question from the bottom (http://md.tufts.edu/Admissions/Info-for-Interviewed-Applicants/Wait-List-FAQs).
 
You may not be wrong about the wait list but I also don't know where you picked that up (even though you're obviously functionally correct!). I haven't read or been told by any Tufts officials that you are automatically waitlisted once interview season is over. In fact, the deferred email says, ".A final decision will be reached at any time between now and the end of May.". That makes me think that we will all hear something in May regardless: accept, reject, or formal waitlist at that time.

They've been careful to dwell on the fact that a deferred decision is NOT a waitlist, which I'm well aware is true only because the word "active" isn't front of "waitlist" in their verbiage. Since we're dealing with semantics here, I think that we can assume we're still "deferred" (aka "active waitlist" by any layperson's perspective) until they tell us otherwise...by the end of May, according to their email.

As far as ranked wait lists/how they select are concerned, check out their website - 2nd question from the bottom (http://md.tufts.edu/Admissions/Info-for-Interviewed-Applicants/Wait-List-FAQs).

Aw shucks!! Thank you so much for bringing that to my attention... I can't believe I didn't read that closer. But I'm sure I wasn't the ONLY one who assumed that the deferred decision list automatically becomes the WL. I know one person who might fill us in on this, will ask him and get back to y'all.

It kind of makes sense, actually. Between May 15th and the end of May, the ADCOM will have a better idea of who's staying, and who has given up their seat, so they can go back to that deferred decision list and start narrowing it down... via acceptances and rejections. And then they might give some people official WL status so they can continue to wait all summer.

This is just speculation...

One more thing: The link you gave was for regular Tufts. You think the same is true for the Maine Track?
 
FYI, this is from someone who was wait listed last year:

"I checked my email, and I actually got an email from them saying specifically that I was on a waitlist 2-3 months after my interview in December (after my sept/oct interview). I never got anything about being on a "deferred decision" list, so I'm not sure if my info is of any help to you, sorry!"

Not sure if it helps us make any more sense of things 🙁
 
Aw shucks!! Thank you so much for bringing that to my attention... I can't believe I didn't read that closer. But I'm sure I wasn't the ONLY one who assumed that the deferred decision list automatically becomes the WL. I know one person who might fill us in on this, will ask him and get back to y'all.

It kind of makes sense, actually. Between May 15th and the end of May, the ADCOM will have a better idea of who's staying, and who has given up their seat, so they can go back to that deferred decision list and start narrowing it down... via acceptances and rejections. And then they might give some people official WL status so they can continue to wait all summer.

This is just speculation...

One more thing: The link you gave was for regular Tufts. You think the same is true for the Maine Track?

No idea if the Tufts waitlist website also applies to Maine Track. I imagine it would, only because the ~36 Maine Track kids are included in the ~200 members of the TUSM class. If the Maine Track adcom has 2 people picked out that they'd like but need a tie-breaker, I'm sure that the Boston adcom might step in and make a decision based on demographic/class composition needs. I really want May 15 to come soon so that all of our applications can be taken more seriously at least once more.
 
After re-reading the deferred decision email and thinking things over, I think things are actually more promising now than I had first imagined. When I found out from a current first year that the WL was not even touched last year, things seemed glum for this year, but actually, people in the current first year class may have been deferred and then accepted, and never put on the "official" WL.

This seems like a possibility, especially after re-reading this part of the letter:

This letter does not mean that you have been Wait-Listed. Please do not be discouraged; it is not at all uncommon for our committee to place qualified applicants in the "deferred decision" category, and many applicants initially placed in this category will ultimately be admitted.

Who knows?
 
I think this was discussed earlier in this forum, but does anyone have any idea regarding the total number of people who may currently be accepted?
 
I think this was discussed earlier in this forum, but does anyone have any idea regarding the total number of people who may currently be accepted?

I'm pretty sure that all acceptances have been given out at this point (36 total). The question is, how many people are planning on keeping their acceptance vs. going somewhere else. That's why we're eagerly waiting for May 15th.
 
Are we waiting until May 15, or might we hear something before then?

I would think that the possibility of hearing before may 16th is slim, just because the Maine Track is probably not in a rush - they'll wait until all the cards have been played, so to speak, so they know exactly how many seats they have to fill. However, I would be shocked if there was no waitlist movement this year, especially if they really did over-enroll last year. I personally know of 3 people who are most likely not going to choose the Maine Track (2 of which have been awarded the scholarship).
 
So you don't think that we can safely assume that, after the final round of interviews, they didn't fill the remaining spots?

I guess I'm just kind of a skeptic and shy away from making any assumptions about the way adcoms might function. For all I know, they accept only 15 extremely strong candidates during the regular cycle (Oct-April), defer the vast majority, and then spend May-August carefully selecting the remaining ~21. That would certainly be one entirely reasonable way of doing things. Or, maybe they accept 36 outright and then wait to see who bails. I have no way of knowing. However, the fact that there are 22 people on the accepted students Facebook group is a pretty good clue that they've accepted around that many and probably a little more. Of course, the skeptic in me doesn't discount the possibility that anxious people floating around these forums might sign up for that group despite having not been accepted yet. But there's at least some objective info to suggest at least 22 have been outright accepted. Nothing suggests they've accepted 36 already, even if it may be true.

That being said, item #4 on this list (https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/recommendations/62826/policies_admissionofficers.html) says that all schools must have accepted at least the number of their expected matriculating class by March 30. I'm not sure that offers much insight into how the Maine Track works. Tufts needs to have accepted ~200 students by now to comply with AAMC, but Maine Track obviously has more leeway being a sub-program within the medical school. Tufts' yield last year of accepted students who matriculated was 34% (http://md.tufts.edu/About-Us/Class-Profile): 590 were accepted and 201 matriculated. So, to me, just being required to accept merely the number of your target class size by March 30 doesn't guarantee that they've even come close to sending out all ~600 acceptances yet.

Bottom line: I have no idea nor does anyone else.
 
Perhaps, then, they should be advised to publish the same specific statistics with respect to Maine Track alone that are provided in the Tuft's applicant information link in the previous post.
 
Does anyone know if any Maine Track students have been flat out rejected? Or did everyone not accepted get deferred? I know regular tufts track sent out rejections but that doesn't mean much...
 
Does anyone know if any Maine Track students have been flat out rejected? Or did everyone not accepted get deferred? I know regular tufts track sent out rejections but that doesn't mean much...

Perhaps. The person who posted post #144 in this thread reported knowing someone who got rejected post-interview last year.

Also, my gut feeling is that because this is a relatively small program, people who get rejected feel especially bad about it and and decide not to report it on SDN. Just my feeling. Only some people have been accepted or deferred. The rest of the people who posted on this thread months ago have gone MIA.
 
Either that, or, in general, applicants may not use SDN .
 
Either that, or, in general, applicants may not use SDN .

Yeah, I'd bet most applicants don't use SDN. I did know someone from last year who was rejected post-interview for the Maine Track (fairly quickly post interview - no deferral or anything). I wonder if the fact that this was the first year using MMI interviews (for Maine Track, at least) minimizes or even removes the flat-out rejected category. If last year's applicant had a poor interview, (s)he was probably pretty much screwed. This year, all of us had interactions with 8 or 9 members of the admissions committee. Might be enough to dilute a bad performance in one interview and also dilute the rejection category compared to years past. I wonder....

Also, given that the Maine Track is such a young program - they're probably still figuring out the balance between who they like and who the Boston adcom will accept in the final decision. Maine might have liked the person I knew from last year well enough, but maybe the Boston committee didn't agree for any number of reasons. I would imagine that the more years Maine exists, the better they'll select interviewees who are ultimately likely to pass both adcoms. If this is the case, then more people would probably be deferred rather than rejected at this point compared to previous years.

Also, someone recently asked the same question in the regular Tufts thread and the response back was that yes, at least one person has gotten flat out rejected post-interview this year (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=823451&page=21).
 
I guess I'm just kind of a skeptic and shy away from making any assumptions about the way adcoms might function. For all I know, they accept only 15 extremely strong candidates during the regular cycle (Oct-April), defer the vast majority, and then spend May-August carefully selecting the remaining ~21. That would certainly be one entirely reasonable way of doing things. Or, maybe they accept 36 outright and then wait to see who bails. I have no way of knowing. However, the fact that there are 22 people on the accepted students Facebook group is a pretty good clue that they've accepted around that many and probably a little more. Of course, the skeptic in me doesn't discount the possibility that anxious people floating around these forums might sign up for that group despite having not been accepted yet. But there's at least some objective info to suggest at least 22 have been outright accepted. Nothing suggests they've accepted 36 already, even if it may be true.

That being said, item #4 on this list (https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/recommendations/62826/policies_admissionofficers.html) says that all schools must have accepted at least the number of their expected matriculating class by March 30. I'm not sure that offers much insight into how the Maine Track works. Tufts needs to have accepted ~200 students by now to comply with AAMC, but Maine Track obviously has more leeway being a sub-program within the medical school. Tufts' yield last year of accepted students who matriculated was 34% (http://md.tufts.edu/About-Us/Class-Profile): 590 were accepted and 201 matriculated. So, to me, just being required to accept merely the number of your target class size by March 30 doesn't guarantee that they've even come close to sending out all ~600 acceptances yet.

Bottom line: I have no idea nor does anyone else.


I'm currently deferred but my honest guess is that they have filled all 36 seats. Since they AMCAS requires the class be filled by that date I would think they would have the Maine track fill their spots first. If they left open spots (to re-evaluate and choose later) and filled the remaining class with normal track kids for AMCAS purposes then they would expose the risk of all those normal track kids accepting/matriculating and leaving no more Maine track kids to be accepted. So my guess is they have filled... but kids may have dropped their seat after the March 30th date they're just waiting to have a meeting after May15th to see how many total open spots and then re-evaluate at that time... and then hopefully final decisions by the end of May.... Just my thoughts
 
I'm currently deferred but my honest guess is that they have filled all 36 seats. Since they AMCAS requires the class be filled by that date I would think they would have the Maine track fill their spots first. If they left open spots (to re-evaluate and choose later) and filled the remaining class with normal track kids for AMCAS purposes then they would expose the risk of all those normal track kids accepting/matriculating and leaving no more Maine track kids to be accepted. So my guess is they have filled... but kids may have dropped their seat after the March 30th date they're just waiting to have a meeting after May15th to see how many total open spots and then re-evaluate at that time... and then hopefully final decisions by the end of May.... Just my thoughts

A final decision will be reached at any time between now and the end of May.

So, in the case that all 36 seats are filled, what does the statement above mean? The final decision with either be reject or "official" wait list?
 
A final decision will be reached at any time between now and the end of May.

So, in the case that all 36 seats are filled, what does the statement above mean? The final decision with either be reject or "official" wait list?

My thoughts are that by May 15th they will be able know exactly how many seats have opened up from the people who have dropped after March 30th and by May 15th... So then the committee will get together to re-evaluate and decide who the lucky ones are to fill those empty seats (and only up to the 36) and then possibly make an official waitlist and reject pile. Then once they get through evaluating everyone they will send out their decisions by their end of May expectations... If one of the newly accepted students has already secured a spot at a different school then they will go back to the waitlist and chose from there to fill these seats one at time so as not to overfill. Not sure how they will choose students off the waitlist honestly if there is no ranking..
 
My thoughts are that by May 15th they will be able know exactly how many seats have opened up from the people who have dropped after March 30th and by May 15th... So then the committee will get together to re-evaluate and decide who the lucky ones are to fill those empty seats (and only up to the 36) and then possibly make an official waitlist and reject pile. Then once they get through evaluating everyone they will send out their decisions by their end of May expectations... If one of the newly accepted students has already secured a spot at a different school then they will go back to the waitlist and chose from there to fill these seats one at time so as not to overfill. Not sure how they will choose students off the waitlist honestly if there is no ranking..

Sounds very reasonable.

Some people get worked up about speculations so I want to assure everyone that I am not trying to spread hearsay (and I think this true for drapron and some of the other SDNers who have been active on this thread). I'm the first one / only one in my family to go through this process so it's been quite a learning experience. I could just sit back and wait to see what happens but that is not my personality, and besides, I think it's more engaging to treat it like a strategy / guessing game. That's just me. 🙄
 
Sounds very reasonable.

Some people get worked up about speculations so I want to assure everyone that I am not trying to spread hearsay (and I think this true for drapron and some of the other SDNers who have been active on this thread). I'm the first one / only one in my family to go through this process so it's been quite a learning experience. I could just sit back and wait to see what happens but that is not my personality, and besides, I think it's more engaging to treat it like a strategy / guessing game. That's just me. 🙄


Exactly. I obviously don't know for sure and my guess is no one really does but it's too hard not to ponder. This is just what I have come up with based on what people here have said and what other schools seem to be doing so we'll see... In other news... only 2 weeks til May 15th!
 
Given that the interview season is now over, they might have filled all of the 36 available positions. But, if the Maine Track admissions committee were advised, or required to fill their spots first, then one might be inclined to wonder why they would draw out 152 or so interviews over the course of 5 or 6 months, other than perhaps, for them, it is the only time they can all meet. Also, why they defer so many applicants rather than just making a wait-list immediately. I would think, and this doesn't mean anything, that the Maine Track admissions process depends on Boston mostly just for an approval a recommended Maine Track applicant.
 
Given that the interview season is now over, they might have filled all of the 36 available positions. But, if the Maine Track admissions committee were advised, or required to fill their spots first, then one might be inclined to wonder why they would draw out 152 or so interviews over the course of 5 or 6 months, other than perhaps, for them, it is the only time they can all meet. Also, why they defer so many applicants rather than just making a wait-list immediately. I would think, and this doesn't mean anything, that the Maine Track admissions process depends on Boston mostly just for an approval a recommended Maine Track applicant.

At my interview, Dr. Bing-You said something about how the Maine Track might like one applicant (accept) while Tufts doesn't (reject), and vice versa, and that this is "totally okay" and has already happened (as of early February). Was he only referring to Maine Track interviewees who also interviewed in Boston? Because I have a sense that not too many people interviewed for both tracks. I didn't.

Just wondering how this might factor into your idea that "the Maine Track admissions process depends on Boston..."
 
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At my interview, Dr. Bing-You said something about how the Maine Track might like one applicant (accept) while Tufts doesn't (reject), and vice versa, and that this is "totally okay" and has already happened (as of early February). Was he only referring to Maine Track interviewees who also interviewed in Boston? Because I have a sense that not too many people interviewed for both tracks. I didn't.

Just wondering how this might factor into your idea that "the Maine Track admissions process depends on Boston..."

I know we were allowed to interview for both tracks but I was never invited to interview on the normal track. In fact I still have yet to be officially rejected from the normal track.

I just remember them saying the Boston will get the final say on all Maine Track students... I just wish they would reject some of us right away post interview instead of leaving all of us dragging on.
 
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I know we were allowed to interview for both tracks but I was never invited to interview on the normal track. In fact I still have yet to be officially rejected from the normal track.

I just remember them saying the Boston will get the final say on all Maine Track students... I just wish they would reject some of us right away post interview instead of leaving all of us dragging on.

Same here!!
 
The reason I say that "the Maine Track admissions process depends on Boston..." is because posts in this thread seem to indicate that the Maine Track admissions committee may seek an "approval" from Boston's in order to finalize acceptances etc. I don't know if this is true, but in my post, I assumed that it was.

Regarding your your question, I would guess that Dr. Bing-You was was referring to all applicants who applied to both tracks in general, regardless of whether or not they interviewed in Boston. The Tuft's website indicates that rejection from one track does not adversely affect your chances of being accepted into another.
 
I wonder if some of us have been rejected by the regular track but Tufts decides not to tell us right away (I mean, this must be the case because interview season is over) because we might end up getting accepted in the end via Maine Track, and it just gets awkward/confusing/misleading to give out too much information otherwise.
 
That would make sense. Since you are eligible for acceptance into one of their programs, the other remains quiet to avoid confusion.
 
After much hard thinking, I withdrew my acceptance from the Maine Track today. Hopefully one of you guys will get my spot!
 
Thanks for the update. Hopefully that spot will go our way. Where did you end up choosing to go?
 
Hey guys! Best of luck to everyone still waiting to hear. Once you hear about your status (fingers crossed), PM me if you are accepted and I'll add you to the FB group 🙂.
 
I am starting to get more and more anxious now...
I'm with you... However, since I've found out that there wouldn't be any decision making until after the 15th, I feel a little better. At least now we know that there's no point of checking our email fifty times a day😉
 
Do you know when will there be decision making? I had to assume it wouldn't be by or on May 15th, but does anyone know anything perhaps more specific than by ". . . the end of May".

I am still very interested in whether or not the class is full.
 
Do you know when will there be decision making? I had to assume it wouldn't be by or on May 15th, but does anyone know anything perhaps more specific than by ". . . the end of May".

I am still very interested in whether or not the class is full.

No, we don't know anything more specific than "the end of May". That's what the email says, and I trust they'll keep their word. Hope for the best (we hear sooner), expect the worst (we hear something on May 31st).

As for the class being full, check out some of the more recent postings (AKA speculations). To summarize, the FB group for admitted students is about 16 people shy of the full class size = maybe there are still spots left!! :xf::luck::xf:
 
Do you think if anyone called them directly and asked when we might hear by or how many spots are taken, they take kindly to that? I'm just wondering if maybe they'd just say they don't know or that they can't answer.
 
Do you think if anyone called them directly and asked when we might hear by or how many spots are taken, they take kindly to that? I'm just wondering if maybe they'd just say they don't know or that they can't answer.

I've wondered the same thing and wanted to ask if someone, maybe someone already accepted or rejected, would be willing to ask for the rest of us. I won't risk calling and annoying someone, though. So I guess the wait continues.
 
Maybe it would be possible to indirectly try to get an answer by asking them when the admissions committee might meet again. I assume they will have to at some point...
 
Do you think if anyone called them directly and asked when we might hear by or how many spots are taken, they take kindly to that? I'm just wondering if maybe they'd just say they don't know or that they can't answer.

I have found that when I call most schools they never ask for you name... I usually just say that I am a waitlisted student and was wondering blah blah blah... they really have no use in asking your name.
 
Hi, I just joined but I've been following this thread avidly. I'm deferred decision, too - just wanted to sympathize and cross fingers...do people think we'll hear news any time between now and the end of May, or specifically the 29th (2 wks after the 15th)?
 
Hi, I just joined but I've been following this thread avidly. I'm deferred decision, too - just wanted to sympathize and cross fingers...do people think we'll hear news any time between now and the end of May, or specifically the 29th (2 wks after the 15th)?

Why do you think there might be something special about the 29th? I don't think there's a particular date we should be looking out for, besides the 31st. If May 31st passes and we haven't heard anything, only then should we start to be concerned. I would probably call the admissions office at that point.
 
I was just re-reading the AMCAS recommendations for med schools, and it said decisions should be given within 2 wks of the 15th, that's all. I'm just hoping for sooner, rather than later (as always, as everyone)
 
I was just re-reading the AMCAS recommendations for med schools, and it said decisions should be given within 2 wks of the 15th, that's all. I'm just hoping for sooner, rather than later (as always, as everyone)

Ohhhhh! Thanks for educating me on that. Now I'm hoping to hear something by the 29th! :xf::xf:

BUT... we have reason to suspect they haven't filled all 36 seats yet, and by AMCAS recommendations, they should have done that back in March. So who knows if they'll play by the rules or not.
 
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