2012-2013 Oakland University Application Thread

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dsk89 said:
If OUWB is anticipating interviewing about 465 applicants by the end of the year, does anyone have any idea how many acceptances they could potentially be offering out of those? I was randomly on the Emory thread and noticed that according to US News they accepted about half the people they interviewed. If a more "established" legacy school such as Emory accepts half, would a relatively newer medical school such as OUWB offer more than 50% acceptances to their interviewees?
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During one of the interview presentations they talked about extending under 190 acceptances for the 75 person class (said plainly: under 3-1 acceptance offers-matriculation ratio for current M1s), after having to extend over 150 for their inaugural 50 person class (over 3-1 ratio for current M2s) ... numbers may not be 100% accurate but the ratios are. They're getting a lot of positive feedback nationally over curriculum, teaching strategies and the like so I expect they'll be around a 2-1 acceptance offers-matriculation ratio this year.

Interview day was awesome, but as others said... it's quite long. You have to do two tours, since the hospital and the campus are about a 30 minute drive apart. Hospital is obviously the star of the show, (for those who are out of state, Beaumont is a very very highly respected hospital) but overall the program seems very well thought out.

Interviews are with clinicians at Beaumont and are super low stress. General "Why medicine" or "expand on your AMCAS" or things you basically are preparing for anyways. No ethical questions... at least for me.

The fact that there hasn't been an M3 class yet is a little troubling, but I guess Beaumont was an internal rotation spot for M3/M4s at Wayne so there's at least a skeleton in place on how things should run. I guess the M2 Wayne kids are SOL next year for Beaumont, and after that it becomes an external rotation spot so that definitely dumps Wayne down in my book (personal opinion). They also say its best to have a car, and driving all over the place can get annoying.

Overall, love the school. Can't wait til the 16th!
 
hey I'm arriving at DTW on the 20th at 1:30pm. Anyone willing to split a cab with me?
 
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
 
Irish Football said:
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
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Don't sweat it. I was rejected from a school that was well below my LizzyM score very early on while they gave interview invites to people with less clinical experience and little to no community service. :shrug:

Med schools work in strange ways.
 
Irish Football said:
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
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Sorry to hear that. From my interview experience here last month, they seemed to genuinely do a holistic review of their applicants. I think they first look to see if you have the numbers to succeed at their school and medical school in general, and then beyond that they are most focused on how much of a "fit" you are for their school. They are very driven by community service and serving the underserved, so if you had solid experiences in your EC's that encompassed such goals of their school, then you likely would have gotten an II. If not, then they probably perceived you as "not a good fit" for their school. That's just my two cents. I hope you get plenty of II's elsewhere! Good luck!
 
Irish Football said:
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
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Sorry to hear dude. Keep your chin up, you're going to get in somewhere! 🙂

It seems like this school sends out things at weird times. (Non-business hours. haha) 😕
 
Procyon said:
Sorry to hear dude. Keep your chin up, you're going to get in somewhere! 🙂

It seems like this school sends out things at weird times. (Non-business hours. haha) 😕
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thanks for the encouragement. And the email was actually sent at 1:24 pm, I just didn't check my email until tonight.
 
Irish Football said:
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
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I'm really sorry to hear that. As other posters said, it's probably just them being picky about "fit" because it's hard to believe they'd reject a 35! It probably wouldn't hurt to call and ask them about the MCAT scores. Either way, I'm sure you'll have plenty of luck at other places! If you don't mind, could you please share when you were complete?
 
Shouraisei said:
I'm really sorry to hear that. As other posters said, it's probably just them being picky about "fit" because it's hard to believe they'd reject a 35! It probably wouldn't hurt to call and ask them about the MCAT scores. Either way, I'm sure you'll have plenty of luck at other places! If you don't mind, could you please share when you were complete?
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That's the thing, I'm not really sure when I was complete because I submitted the secondary in early July and it was "complete" a few days later and the status page stayed the same all the way through my listing my expected second testing date and then when the second scores were available in August. That's why I'm going to call tomorrow.
 
Irish Football said:
That's the thing, I'm not really sure when I was complete because I submitted the secondary in early July and it was "complete" a few days later and the status page stayed the same all the way through my listing my expected second testing date and then when the second scores were available in August. That's why I'm going to call tomorrow.
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Hopefully it was a mistake, and they put your application back into consideration, good luck!
 
Irish Football said:
That's the thing, I'm not really sure when I was complete because I submitted the secondary in early July and it was "complete" a few days later and the status page stayed the same all the way through my listing my expected second testing date and then when the second scores were available in August. That's why I'm going to call tomorrow.
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Ah sorry, I missed the thing about being complete in your first post. Good luck with the call and I hope you are re-considered 😀
 
dsk89 said:
Sorry to hear that. From my interview experience here last month, they seemed to genuinely do a holistic review of their applicants. I think they first look to see if you have the numbers to succeed at their school and medical school in general, and then beyond that they are most focused on how much of a "fit" you are for their school. They are very driven by community service and serving the underserved, so if you had solid experiences in your EC's that encompassed such goals of their school, then you likely would have gotten an II. If not, then they probably perceived you as "not a good fit" for their school. That's just my two cents. I hope you get plenty of II's elsewhere! Good luck!
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+1 dude, can't take rejections personally
 
Okay I just called the admissions office, unfortunately they DID have both scores on file when they decided to reject me. The lady said the same thing as you guys, that I shouldn't let it scare me into thinking there is a problem with my app, rather OUWB does a "holistic" review, as you guys have said.

Well, I'm glad I called for my own peace of mind. Time to forget about this school, good luck to all those who are still in the running!
 
Irish Football said:
Wow, I just got rejected from OUWB. Crazy. I have suspicion that they never received my second MCAT since I applied to this school really early and may have been marked complete before I indicated I was going to retake. I mean it's really scary to think that I got rejected this early with a 35!! Is there something else wrong with my application?! Maybe I should call tomorrow and find out if they ever received that second score.
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Well there's a couple things to note.

A) OOS. While they're a private, they still have a preference for IS applicants (http://www.oakland.edu/?id=19505&sid=340). If someone has the US News stats, those may be more revealing for or against my argument. (Also, I know OU says they have no preference on their website, but as an applicant I can only see the numbers and not the discussions behind the decisions.)

B) As other people said, it isn't only about MCAT. GPA and sGPA can be a huge factor (even with a strong upwards trend). Often there's other things schools look for. If every school had the same criteria then a handful of students would receive interviews at every school and other applicants would be immediately rejected from every one. I've seen profiles of 38+/3.9 being rejected from schools after receiving interviews at Harvard, WashU, and the like.

Personally, I'm IS with similar numbers, and I haven't heard diddly squat from them (pretty sure I'm on hold). As med school applicants, we all have to, sadly, accept that each school views us differently. Best of luck on your other applications though. You still have a lot of great schools left!
 
pachewisc said:
Well there's a couple things to note.

A) OOS. While they're a private, they still have a preference for IS applicants (http://www.oakland.edu/?id=19505&sid=340). If someone has the US News stats, those may be more revealing for or against my argument. (Also, I know OU says they have no preference on their website, but as an applicant I can only see the numbers and not the discussions behind the decisions.)
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Just wanted to reply to this - they haven't had a chance to post the M1 class stats, but there is a significant shift in the IS/OOS ratio that reflects our non-preference for IS vs OOS. Also consider the situation for the charter class - not only was the number of IS applicants higher, it's much more likely for someone from the area to want to stay in the area and thus be part of our inaugural class than someone from out of state to decide to relocate to Rochester for a brand new school [even though our hospital is highly ranked and well-respected in MI, many OOS students don't necessarily know that].

Anyway, good luck!
 
For those who have interviewed, what time does it end? I have a flight departing from DTW at 6:40pm and I'm not sure if I will make it there in time. I'm flying American Airlines (which sucks because of all the cancellations and delays that have been going on!) so it will probably end up being delayed anyways, but please let me know!
 
virtuoso735 said:
For those who have interviewed, what time does it end? I have a flight departing from DTW at 6:40pm and I'm not sure if I will make it there in time. I'm flying American Airlines (which sucks because of all the cancellations and delays that have been going on!) so it will probably end up being delayed anyways, but please let me know!
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The schedule they gave us (I interviewed on August 24th, which was the first Interview Day) ended at 4:30 PM, and they really do try hard to keep to schedule. But I think because of some roads closed near the school on our way back to OU from Beaumont, we ended up getting back around 4:45. I think you can make your 6:40pm flight(even if it doesn't get delayed), just make sure you leave as soon as you get back to OU.👍
 
For those who received an interview invite, does it usually take about a month if granted one? I was just complete but just wondering when do you start to lose hope?
 
wsumed2013 said:
For those who received an interview invite, does it usually take about a month if granted one? I was just complete but just wondering when do you start to lose hope?
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I second this, have they already started sending out II for those complete in late august?
 
wsumed2013 said:
For those who received an interview invite, does it usually take about a month if granted one? I was just complete but just wondering when do you start to lose hope?
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I was complete mid-July and got an interview invite mid/late August, so it took a little over a month for me. However, it's a little later in the cycle now so I would imagine they have more applications to look at, so I would guess it will take a little longer for interview invites.
 
Anyone interviewing this coming Friday (Sept. 28) that will be arriving at DTW on Thursday evening and want to share a cab?

How much is cab fare from DTW to Oakland U? It's close to 50 miles on Google maps...that's an expensive cab ride.
 
virtuoso735 said:
Anyone interviewing this coming Friday (Sept. 28) that will be arriving at DTW on Thursday evening and want to share a cab?

How much is cab fare from DTW to Oakland U? It's close to 50 miles on Google maps...that's an expensive cab ride.
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you might be better off renting a car for the two days.
 
NERDY said:
you might be better off renting a car for the two days.
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I'm under 25, so it will probably end up being more expensive. Unless someone wants to split the cost with me...


I've been reading through the OUWB website, and I'm so excited to interview and possibly be part of the class of 2017!!! :luck:
 
virtuoso735 said:
I'm under 25, so it will probably end up being more expensive. Unless someone wants to split the cost with me...


I've been reading through the OUWB website, and I'm so excited to interview and possibly be part of the class of 2017!!! :luck:
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You flying from California? I did the same! I had a great experience at OUWB and hope I get accepted next month!:xf:
 
virtuoso735 said:
I'm under 25, so it will probably end up being more expensive. Unless someone wants to split the cost with me...


I've been reading through the OUWB website, and I'm so excited to interview and possibly be part of the class of 2017!!! :luck:
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You might be able to take cab to dearborn train station and take Amtrak to Birmingham or Pontiac.
Train fare is cheap and there is an evening train that runs up that way. Not sure if you can take SMART bus to OU but is there a hotel with free shuttle or student host who lives in that area? Just a couple ideas. Not sure it would be much cheaper.
 
I will probably just end up taking a cab since I'll be arriving around 8:00pm and I'll be tired and cranky from all the flying.

Should I bring a nice folder/portfolio, or does OUWB provide us with one?

ETA: I also see that there are two one-on-one interviews. What is the set up like? Is one a physician and one a member of the faculty? Are any of the interviewers students? I'm not sure why there are two interviews. Do they focus on different areas?
 
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Placed on hold for re-review, Canadian
What are the chances of coming off the hold and getting an II, does OUWB accept updates?
 
On the secondary site, theres a document status link where u can upload update letters/letters of intent or interest...I'm not sure how receptive the school is to these, but I'm guessing theyre welcome if they have their own section
 
desiallstar said:
Placed on hold for re-review, Canadian
What are the chances of coming off the hold and getting an II, does OUWB accept updates?
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did they notify you via e-mail that you were placed on hold? Mind stating your completion date?

I would assume they're highly interested in update letters/ LOI as they have a section to upload these letters on their website.
 
I volunteer at Beaumont Hospital and wrote about it in the community essay, hopefully they like me 😀
 
mwall003 said:
did they notify you via e-mail that you were placed on hold? Mind stating your completion date?

I would assume they're highly interested in update letters/ LOI as they have a section to upload these letters on their website.
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Yup I was notified by an email message, I believe I was complete around Aug 9
 
I was complete around mid-august, silent rejection as well? I'm not sure they do these however b/c previous posters have stated they've received hold e-mails. If they do that, hopefully they send rejection e-mails as well. I'd like to know either way!
 
INTERVIEW INVITE TODAY!!!!!!!!
IT'S A MIRACLE OH MY GOD I'M SO HAPPY AHHHHHH
I think i woke everyone up stomping all over my house like a little girl

:laugh:
 
MangoTango1130 said:
INTERVIEW INVITE TODAY!!!!!!!!
IT'S A MIRACLE OH MY GOD I'M SO HAPPY AHHHHHH
I think i woke everyone up stomping all over my house like a little girl

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Congrats!! IS/OOS? When were you complete? Congrats again!!!!
 
mwall003 said:
I was complete around mid-august, silent rejection as well? I'm not sure they do these however b/c previous posters have stated they've received hold e-mails. If they do that, hopefully they send rejection e-mails as well. I'd like to know either way!
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Don't assume just yet that you've been silently rejected. I was complete early July and received an II at the end of July. So if it took me 3-4 weeks to receive an II that early in the cycle, then you will likely be waiting longer for an II since you were complete later when they probably have a lot more apps to sift through.
 
OOS (with strong state ties)
GPA(>3.5 <3.75)
MCAT (>34 <37)

Submitted secondary late July
Rejected today


"Thank you for applying to the Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine. We appreciate your interest in joining our medical school. We have completed a review of your application materials and regret to inform you that we will not be offering you an interview for the 2013 admission cycle.

We wish you the best in your pursuit of medical education."



Definitely stings since I thought I was a good fit here... not sure why I didn't at least get put on hold? I guess they simply have a lot of really great candidates from Michigan. Although it is nice that they got back to me with a definitive answer so quickly. I wish you all the best of luck! For those of you that eventually get in here, CONGRATS, this school is awesome.
 
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Sorry to hear that Enginr...

Some times I feel like the interview process is all about luck. I've gotten rejected to schools that I thought for sure would interview me, and interviews by schools I thought would definitely reject me.

Good luck with the rest of the admissions cycle.
 
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loves it.
 
Just finished my interview day, it was awesome! The staff was really friendly and Beaumont was very nice.
 
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